A new day dawns!

One hundred and fifty three years ago, from July 1st through the 3rd, the most pivotal battle in American history was fought.  When the battle of Gettysburg was over, the Confederate forces of Robert E. Lee were defeated by the Union forces of George Meade, and there were 46,000-51,000 wounded or killed Americans on the battlefield.   That was the end for the South.  They were never able to recover from that fatal blow.  Just as Waterloo was the end for Napoleon, Gettysburg broke the Confederacies back.  History repeats itself. 


In 2000, George W. Bush narrowly won a disputed presidential election.  After the attack on 9/11, he overreacted and placed America in a foolish war with Iraq.  This gave new life to a Democrat party that had seemed lifeless.  Armed with Bush’s follies, a neophyte Senator from Illinois, long on charisma, and short on wisdom was propelled to the presidency by a nation which yearned to give men of all backgrounds equal opportunities.  But in our rush to place an African American in the White House, America forgot that millions of African Americans were far more qualified than Obama, and our affirmative action mentality created a huge mistake, which we then repeated in 2012.  If not for Bush’s follies, the Democrat party would have been dead in 2008, but it had been given a new lease on life, and it tried to capitalize.  Obama ensured homosexual marriage was passed, and had all manner of other radical measures enforced upon us.  His bureaucracy exploded, and now our government employs 22,235,000, while manufacturing jobs employ nearly 10,000,000 less Americans, at 12,258,000.  We are becoming a nation of Big Brother.  This election was a referendum on Obama’s disastrous foreign and domestic policies.  The American people were ruthlessly lied to by the media, and were lied to by polls, but we held on, and even though California is late to the game, Donald Trump just scored the most stunning upset in American Presidential history.  It was the will of the people.  As the President during Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln  said, “You can fool all the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all the the people all of the time”. 


This was the Democrats Gettysburg once again.  Only, this time, it was the Southern states who voted solidly for Trump.  Fitting that the North won for freedom in 1863,and the South won for freedom today.  One good turn deserves another.  The South has just repaid the Unions faith in her. 


This is the end of the Democrat party.  This was their Gettysburg.  It will never be the same again.  This was David against Goliath, and the whole world saw Goliath taken down by the most unlikeliest of men, Donald Trump. Trump had all kinds of past mistakes which were thrown at him by the Democrats, but he never stopped,  and at age 70 he was tirelessly giving five speeches a day, every day, right up until the very election.  His perseverance, determination, courage, and discipline were exemplary.  While Hillary planned her victory party, Trump never surrendered. Just like the tortoise passed the Hare, so Hillary was passed while she was napping. 


This battle marks the death of the Democrat ideology.  This is the dawn of a new day for America.  Yet, long ago, the Romans fought a war against Carthage.  The orator Cato would start off meetings of the Senate by saying, “Delenda Est Cartago”, meaning, “Carthage must be destroyed”.  And the diseased Democrat party must be destroyed politically.  This will be the last election that California stays Democrat.  You Democrats reading this can take heed, or you will be soundly smashed in the next election.  Delenda est Democrat Party!  It was the party of slavery, of segregation, of abortion, and homosexual marriage, and all other kinds of tyranny.  It is going to die, and hopefully no one wants to be a part of it. 


There is a destiny that America is going to attain,



P.S. Sorry Autumn, I know I am posting this out of turn, but I coudn't help myself. I hope you can forgive me, as this is the greatest upset in American Presidential history!


Kerem Oner Added Nov 9, 2016 - 9:16am
And now comes the real challenge of doing the things Trump said he would.  Although he has a Republican senate to compliment his Administration, I still need to be convinced that he was not a wolf in sheep clothing.  His extensive progressive background cannot be dismissed any more easily than Obama's background growing up under decidedly Marxist influence.  By no means they are the same strain of progressives but you get my drift.  I will be happy if he restores law and order, seek justice on those who have skirted it for years, rein in the EPA and other rogue government agencies, and undo Obamacare (as well as all the rest of destructive Executive Orders Obama signed) to begin with. 
It sure is a new day in America.  Let's hope it will be a sunny one. (fittingly for Democrats, it is overcast and raining in D.C. today)
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 9, 2016 - 9:26am
Spent my election day as an election judge.   There was a steady stream in the poling place all day.  We lucky did not have a big rush at the end but other places did.  A great day for democracy.  About halve the voters in the two precincts at our location voted Tuesday. 
As what has happened every election in my memory the city counties voted Democrat and the rural counties Republican.  Since the city population is greater you know who won.  The reason Illinois is in financial trouble is that we have a bicameral state legislature that like the congress of the USA  does not consist of two houses voted for different interest focuses which is the basis of Federalism.  Both are elected by popular vote thus Illinois is a 'city state.'  If the Illinois Senate were elected to represent counties then we would have state based on Federalism.
Trump is really just one step in a journey.  Ronald Reagan was also a first step, but Bush senior like Bush junior chose different paths.  That gave the country back to the Democrats.  At least on this ticket the VP candidate is not a compromise to the progressive Republicans, RINOS, that do not respect the Constitution and treated as a 'living document,' toilet paper.   Trump is on the side of progressism, but has seen that like all things too much is very bad, and we have too much,.  He has not mentioned the Constitution through out this campaign so  his opinion of it is unknown.
Success will only come with a strong Congress, but the GOP Congress under Obama agreed with the progressive agenda and accepted the Marxist actions as an acceptable cost of achieving their progressive agenda.  The members returning to the first Trump Congress with mostly be the same team that sat on the benches during the Obama Congresses.  We they accept Trump's campaign promises as theirs is the big question?
Kerem Oner Added Nov 9, 2016 - 9:37am
Yes Thomas, and that is exactly why I am so unsure how any of this will play out.  Even if Trump is serious about what he wants to accomplish, will the GOP congress help him or gang up with the Democrats against him?  I do not trust McConnell. 
Bill Kamps Added Nov 9, 2016 - 11:32am
What I will be looking for is who does Trump name to create his staff and cabinet.  Are they the usual GOP suspects, or does he bring in new blood.  That is the first thing we will see, before he takes office, and before we even get a clue of his agenda. 
Bill H. Added Nov 9, 2016 - 4:15pm
Ryan - now that you are in a state that has legal recreational marijuana, I would recommend that you roll up a doobie and take a few big tokes.
You certainly could use it!
Bill H. Added Nov 9, 2016 - 4:16pm
I believe Trump should make Chris Christie the Secretary of Transportation. 
Steve Borsher Added Nov 9, 2016 - 6:52pm
Bill, Would Christie then turn the GWB into "the bridge to nowhere"?
Well, I got my primary wish fulfilled: Billary to NEVER get back into the WH. It is less likely I will get my secondary wish, though: that Trump will say "you're fired!" to 0bama on Inauguration Day. Maybe he will whisper it in 0bama's ear, like when 0biden did with "this is a big fucking deal". Well, so is this.
Patrick Writes Added Nov 10, 2016 - 12:09am
They were saying this in 2008 and again in 2012 regarding the Republicans. The 'Death of the Republican Party'. 
It's a victory, but half the country voted against Trump (he lost the popular vote). 
The entire rest of Western civilization is more in line with the Democrats than the Republicans. The Democrats aren't going anywhere. 
But this is important because the federal courts, and the Supreme Court, can be righted (no pun intended) possibly for a generation. That's huge. 
All this 'jailing of bakers who don't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding' judicial overreach should go away for a while. This Bruce Springsteen threatening states who pass laws which allow for people to refuse business on religion grounds (which is actually protected in the constitution to begin with). The transgender bathroom laws court cases. This can all go away for the foreseeable future. 

That's very important. Getting the country working again is important. But I think the left-leaning Democrats (or whoever rises to take their place) aren't going anywhere. 
Judicial overreach in the last 4 years played into Trump's hand (ex: the unnecessary 'gay marriage decision'--Obergefell vs Hodges--because 20 states had already decided on their own to make it legal in their jurisdiction).
Patrick Writes Added Nov 10, 2016 - 12:13am
Bruce Springsteen played a mini-concert at the star-loaded Hillary rally a day before the election (with Beyonce, Jay-Z, Michelle Obama, Pres Obama, etc...). Hopefully, everybody sees he doesn't hold the clout he thinks he does so if he threatens states again (like he did for the North Carolina bathroom law), we can all laugh at him.
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 7:42am
"The entire rest of Western civilization is more in line with the Democrats than the Republicans. The Democrats aren't going anywhere."
I classify that as the understatement of the millennium.  Unfortunately, there are A LOT more of them than us.  As to the world, we are/were the only truly enlightened ones.  Collectivism rules the world and has pretty much taken over the U.S. as well.  Rugged individualists are an endangered species - one with no laws ensuring our conservation.  A snail darter has more protection than us and will outlast us.  Sorry to rain on the parade of anyone who thinks we are on our way back to our glory days.  All that happened less than two days ago was that we got a temporary stay of execution.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:15am
"Unfortunately there are a lot more of them than us"? No, we are just more conservative in many ways, including staying out of other people's faces. The celebrititards are insecure over-compensators that need a lot of attention and something that passes for love. Trump woke up the sleeping giant of the disenfranchised white silent majority who have been forsaken for decades with minorities being favored for Democratic votes. They finally saw a glimmer of hope for some attention from Trump. He better be sure to not disappoint them. There is still a potential revolution brewing out there that might have been triggered by his loss.
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:36am
Steve, I was talking about 'them' being majority in the world but even in the U.S., you live in a dream world if you think we are the majority.  The demographics of the country argue against you.  Minorities (blacks, Latinos, and even Asians who vote overwhelmingly for Democrats) plus white women outnumber us greatly.  And they are all brainwashed.  Trump did not wake up anyone.  He got a rag tag coalition of dejected Reagan Democrat types from the rust belt and traditional Republicans who finally came around to supporting him.  Even the black vote I was expecting did not materialize.  He got a measly 2% more than Romney did against a black sitting president. 
There is no sleeping giant....at least no more than there were the imaginary super weapons Hitler thought would save the Third Reich in the closing days of WWII.  There better be a revolution brewing out there because we will NOT prevail permanently at the ballot box.  This time was a fluke of sorts (and thanks only to the intense un-likability of Hillary) 
Our only hope will be the ammunition box rather than the ballot box because individualism and collectivism cannot possibly coexist peacefullyAt the end, collectivism annihilates individualism as it is an ideology that does not exempt anyone.
Leroy Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:41am
It all depends on what happens to the Democrats. It is clear to all now that the Democrats didn't put forth the best candidate for president.  And, the reason it didn't do so is because its system of selecting its candidate was rigged.  It used fraud and deception to force the selection of Clinton.  Super delegates is just another tool to rig the selection process.  Will the Democratic party come to grips with the error of its ways or will it double down with its corruption?  If it chooses the later, the Democratic party will splinter.  The people will no longer trust the Democratic party.
It also depends on Trump.  Will he "drain the swamp" as promised, or will he leave the Clinton operatives in place?  If the Democratic party doesn't self-purge, then Trump should unleash the justice department.
The Democrats' primary tool of manipulation is the press.   The public no longer trusts the major news outlets.  Even Fox has been discredited, although to a lesser extent.  Will the press double down or will it change?  I think its survival depends on change.  If it doesn't change, it will become a liability to the Democrats.
Finally, will the Democrat party become Bernie?   Will it move towards outright socialism or communism?  Up until this election, socialism was a dirty word.  People I know now openly support it.  This development may even be a greater threat.  Economic improvement is the best defense.  
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:58am
Leroy, I will bet a dollar that they will only double down on their Alinsyite ways.  I know Fabian progressives.  I have studied their history and them in real life, first hand.  They are the true zombies.  As to the party moving to socialism, they did in the 1960s.  Democrat Party is in effect the new Socialist Party.  Here, you may want to read an old article of mine:
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 9:01am
I'll stay with my "sleeping giant" theory. When I saw the voting numbers: 70% white, 12% black, 18% Latino, Asian, and other during the election, I was starting to be convinced he could pull it off again; and he did. I had been talking about him tapping the disenfranchised whites since he entered the race, because it WAS the only way he could win.
"It is clear to all now that the Democrats didn't put forth the best candidate for president." Yes, that became the running joke: that the only candidate that the DIMs could come up with was the ONE person that could not beat Trump.
Michelle 0bama said, during her husband's campaign: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback". I say that I am again proud of my country because the silent majority finally spoke up again and made a real difference. It is time to return to fairness and normalcy, instead of pandering to the minorities for votes. They are now out in the streets chanting about Trump: "he is not my president". Funny, I felt exactly the same about 0bama.
Leroy Added Nov 10, 2016 - 9:07am
Thanks for the link to your article, Kerem.  It was a good read.  It is sad how far we have progressed down the road of Socialism.  I hadn't given much thought about the Blue Dog Democrats.  They have disappeared.  The fate of this republic rests on the shoulders of the Republicans, and that is a scary thought.
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 9:10am
"tapping the disenfranchised whites"
That is NOT how you win elections...at least not in a consistent fashion.  It is a losing strategy.  The only hope is in educating the public about what schools should have been teaching them (but are not), which requires de-programming them.  We must overcome not only the academia but also the media and entertainment sectors.  It is David versus Goliath and in our case, David does not have any divine powers to help him, I am afraid. 
I will settle for this nation to dissolve (and possibly become a very loose confederacy of sorts like the anti Federalists imagined).  That is the only way to avoid subjugation and eventual bloodshed.
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 9:16am
"The fate of this republic rests on the shoulders of the Republicans, and that is a scary thought."
Truer words were not spoken! 
Those of us who lived through the 1980s already witnessed the zenith of our greatness.  I am afraid it is all downhill from now till this nation is no more.  The decay is way too enormous to overcome in a reasonably short period.  We need to educate people but also be realistic in our expectations.  Hope for the best, but definitely be prepared for the worst! 
Leroy Added Nov 10, 2016 - 9:32am
I agree with your assessment, Kerem.  As the US becomes more urbanized, it becomes more liberal.  It is only a matter of time before the urban votes outnumber the rest.  It is only a matter of time before we run ou of other people's money.  Our only hope is a Supreme Court to slow down the disintegration.  Other than that, it will take a war of survival or some cataclysmic event to bring us together.
Kerem Oner Added Nov 10, 2016 - 10:00am
Sad but true, Leroy.  We need to educate others as to our philosophical moorings.  Hopefully, one day, they might have an epiphany if they are exposed to it (and accidentally find themselves thinking about it -- lol I did not think I would make myself laugh this morning!!)
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 10:59am
Tapping the disenfranchised whites won this election, and it is not the first time the silent majority has been tapped. Unfortunately, the last person to tap it was Nixon, and, hopefully, we won't have the same outcome this time.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 2:29pm
Knowledge is power, and there is a butterfly effect.
It's time to start preparing for the next election now.  Not a single chance for an interaction goes by without me discussing politics with a person.  When done tactfully and sizing up the person for their ability to listen, and disengaging if they are not reasonable, a huge amount of change can happen in a short time.  It's all about contact and information.  That was Jesus' strategy from age 30-33 when he sent 12 unlearned men out into the world to knock on peoples doors two by two.  In just 3 years he transformed the world.  If armed with the same truth as he had, an using the same methods, we can nonviolently avert the terrible atrocities a revolution will bring.  
Wage war on television.  People need to pay attention to history and reading.  They need to be educated on the harms of television and how it is brainwashing them.  80% of America cannot intelligently talk about Lenin,Stalin and Mao's take overs in Russia and China.  Until people understand the horror of secular progressivism, the inner cities will remain cesspools of Democrat perversion and hopelessness.
Let's not be distracted.  This ideological war is a moral one.  The greatest threat to America is pornography.  That is ripping apart the family structure, leading us to become a consumer nation, driven by money and materialism. Many Americans have Affluenza.  Also, independent conservatives have to make a greater effort to reach out to those on the Democrat plantations and give them wisdom, so they can escape from them.  Conservatives need to set up knowledge Underground Railroads, where we educated, empower, and care for those stuck on the Democrat plantations and enable them to escape and become conservatives as well.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 10, 2016 - 4:46pm
Wage war on television.
No technical invention is bad per se. It's a matter on how you use it and what you put in it. Get on the owners of those dumbing-down trash stations, not on the product ;-) 
Stone-Eater Added Nov 10, 2016 - 4:53pm
People need to pay attention to history and reading.
True, but: How many times history was rewritten by the winners of whatever action ? What was written back then is the same as what is broadcasted today: Biased stuff serving certain purposes.
That's why I always say: Truth does not exist. It's in the eye of the beholder. You don't have lifetimes to analyze every information there is and distill it to get as close as possible to what is - your truth....emotions play into it, life experiences also form it....it's all SUBJECTIVE.
Truth is SUBJECTIVE, but not necessarily TRUE.
Therefore "truth" does not exist. It goes into the same category as "democracy" and "freedom" ;-)
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 5:17pm
It is bad, Stone.  Not only is it full of garbage, but unlike what you and I are doing now, there is no interaction back and forth. It is a passive activity and the brain is working less than it does when asleep.  The arguments are in 'Plug in Drug".  
History has to be examined from many angles.  It is possible to get all viewpoints on any point of history with EFFORT!! 
Truth is objective, but many people are subjective.  I realize my biases when I view information, but I also know why I have those biases.  I choose them deliberately as I know that if certain principles are not adhered to it is bad juju.  
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 5:43pm
The truth in this case is that Trump won, and the liberals are in terror of losing the heavy train; from both sides of the tender. I was just watching a Latino liberal talking head who was stone cold terrified that Trump would chose Steve Bannon as his chief of staff; as if anyone could be worse than Rahm Emmanuel.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 5:50pm
LOL, Steve,
They are in panic mode.  Remember when the conservatives rioted when Obama won?
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 10, 2016 - 6:16pm
Our founders said that our government can only exist when men of virtue represent us.  They understood the Christian foundation of the country. "In Christianity, the three theological virtues are faith, hope and love, a list which comes from 1 Corinthians 13:13 ... Christian scholars frequently add the four Greek cardinal virtues (prudence, justice, temperance, and courage) to the theological virtues." Virtue - Wikipedia
Hillary Clinton was not a virtuous representative.  As can be seen by the FBI investigation that was summarized by James Comey in July but knowing that Loretta Lynch would not prosecute said that no prosecutor would indite Hillary.  He was saying that Loretta Lynch a political hack would not indite Hillary.   Comey provided more enough evidence to seat a grand jury and follow other procedures to collect evidence and obtain under oath testimony.
American voter from all the diverse regions recognized this.  This is the second time that the Democratic party won the popular vote but did not win the individual states. Federalism was an ingenious approach to have the people and the regional interest have voices.  The country is made up of different interests. The Coal and energy states voted against policies that took their jobs.  The industrial rust belt states voted against their jobs being sent over seas.  The rural center of the country voted against paying for the problems of the cities.  These areas are for the most part have low populations.
It is not accident that the democratic power is based in the cities.  FDR created the welfare state.  Segregation resulted in the black population being effected by the Great Recession.   Thus welfare and public funding of housing even under the rules of segregation significantly improved their lives.  Cities receive segregated public housing for 30 years for blacks while federal money financed the construction of the suburbs for whites.  Welfare reinforced single parent house holds damaging the family and christian structure of the black community.  And the policies that created a black ghetto reinforced the damage.  The ghettos also made the cities Democratic party strong holds by welfare obtaining black votes.
Illinois is a good example of what happens when only one type of voice is heard.  In effect Illinois is a city state of Chicago because more then half the population live in the economic sphere of Chicago.  Since the bicameral legislature exist only in name since all the representatives are elected by popular vote.  Of the more then one hundred counties in Illinois, Hillary won less then ten.  This has been the case across all elected positions for decades.  The debt problem in Illinois is the result of a 'Chicago City State Legislature.'
Jeff Jackson Added Nov 10, 2016 - 6:23pm
This election saw the Clintonian Dynasty die. May it rest in peace. And maybe Hillary resting in jail.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 6:24pm
James, why would any woman vote for that baby killer Hillary?
She takes millions from Saudi Arabia.  If you think Trump is abusive to women, just check out what the Saudis do to their women.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 6:25pm
Hillary Clinton was not a virtuous representative. 
Excellent point Thomas.  She certainly wasn't.  She was a criminal and should have been wearing orange jumpsuits not pantsuits.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 7:40pm
Don't count the Clinton dynasty out yet: Chelsea is still out there, and the public memory is short and selective.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 7:43pm
God forbid, Steve!!!  
She is going to be worse than her parents!
Leroy Added Nov 10, 2016 - 7:47pm
No, Chelsea refused to go along with the rest of the criminal gang.  She will never have the support to run, not even from her parents.  Doug Band would sabotage any opportunity.
Ryan Messano Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:49pm
It seems as if you have been invaded by a James Convey spirit:).  Not sure if an exorcism can take care of that, they are really tough to get rid of.:) LOL.  
That man never ceases to amaze me.  If he really is very sick, then I hope he gets well, but his antics are quite amazing.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 10, 2016 - 8:52pm
Chelsea is an innocent first daughter. She didn't act as the super-glue to patch her parents public image back together, nor did she harbor her exhausted mother in her apartment for B12 shots.
I still puke every time I see this picture:
Peter Corey Added Nov 10, 2016 - 10:49pm
@ James Convey: "..........It is heartbreaking that 42% of women voted for Donald Trump and are obviously asleep in America! Don't they get it? The GOP is the party of old white conservatives, led now by a 'Lying Lothario', who want to keep you pregnant and in the kitchen all of your days!
Hell if they had their way you would lose the right to vote for chrissakes!!! DUMB. DUMB. DUMB!!!!!!!!!
The FBI's investigation into the Clinton Foundation continues to be "very high priority" among some local agents on the ground, sources with intimate knowledge of the probe told Fox News.
Agents have interviewed and re-interviewed multiple people on the foundation case, which is looking into possible pay for play interaction between then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. The FBI's White Collar Crime Division is handling the investigation.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 7:51am
Chelsea is still out there, and the public memory is short and selective.
No way. She isn't exactly a beaut and doesn't look too bright either. Michelle Obama would be the better choice when it comes to "dynasty".
Steve Bergeron Added Nov 11, 2016 - 8:54am
The problem, folks, is that the young folks have been deprived of an education, especially higher education.  What they have received, as evidenced by the lunatics protesting the election, is an indoctrination into Marxism.  They go, like innocent doves, to the universities across the land, and are thoroughly indoctrinated into believing Marxist doctrine.  Anything goes, as long as your side wins.  As we older folks begin to fade from the scene, they will only increase in numbers, until they entirely ruin the country.  However, I believe they will wake up one day and say, "WAIT!  WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!"  And the pendulum will begin to swing back the other way.  But, I'll be long gone by then, I believe.  God help 'em all.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 9:20am
You are quite right. I finally got my wife to see Hillary as the 0bamanation that she is, but I could not get through to her as well on 0bama, and especially not on Moochelle. I think Mooch was a decent person at first, but that kool-aid is tasty, and few can resist. 
Over here, Chelsea IS a celebrity. She has played a news correspondent on TV, and probably could do anything she wants; an American promise that really only applies to a few.
And I've been meaning to ask you if that Cameroon train crash had any impact on you or yours.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 9:21am
Several states passes recreational marijuana laws, so "higher education" will now take on a lower meaning.
Dino Manalis Added Nov 11, 2016 - 9:37am
Trump is trying to unite us now and focus on the people's business.  The economy and national security should be at the top of his agenda.  All the Best!
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 9:48am
And Lizzie Borden Warren is doing her best to keep US divided. No conciliation from her. Now who is the bigot?!?
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 10:39am
"Over here, Chelsea IS a celebrity. She has played a news correspondent on TV, and probably could do anything she wants; an American promise that really only applies to a few."
@Steve, she was paid handsomely to play correspondent, only because momma was in the position to grant favors.  She had no skills for the job.  The Clintons were able to pull in millions because they had the power to grant favors.  The empire has now  collapsed.  The Clintons are of no value to anyone anymore.  Bill and Hillary Clinton will never be paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to make speeches.  Foreign governments will not contribute millions.  Chelsea Clinton is now a mere mortal.  She can no longer command a premium.  Like the rest of us, she will only be able to hold a job for as long as she contributes to the bottom line.  The jig is up.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 11:11am
I hope you are right. But the failed Kennedys still have cache. That Bill enjoyed his overextended time in the sun shows just how needy the public is for charisma and celebrity. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. Trump brought out the ire in people who have been taken advantage of for far too long; but complacency sets in very quickly, just as it did after 911. The Clintons are fighters, albeit dirty ones, and a new reinvention would not surprise me; that is if they don't get killed because they cannot repay the debts they built up trying to get Hillary elected.
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 11:30am
Steve, you may be correct.  Only time will tell.  Chelsea did participate in the abuses, but she only allowed herself to go so far.  She knew her parents were corrupt and tried to fix it.  In doing so, she interrupted her father's counselor's cash cow.  She destroyed the income of some 65 Washington insiders.  Even in one of the Wikileaks, Hillary was asked about getting her daughter involved.  Hillary refused her.  Without power, she has no value.  Her husband appears to be a loser and depends on the foundation donors.  The foundation will fold.  I don't see her being able to run for dog catcher (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 1:10pm
Lo and Behold!  I just read an article where Chelsea is being groomed to run for a congressional seat in New York.  Her parents had bought a house next to them in order for Chelsea to meet the residency requirements.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 2:45pm
And I've been meaning to ask you if that Cameroon train crash had any impact on you or yours.
No. Cameroon is quite big too for European size ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 2:46pm
you are a sad sack of shit, praise be to Allah!
You talking to me ? If yes, get some professional help. Seems that Mr. Alzheimer has come for a visit.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 2:51pm
BTW: Chelsea (or London, if you will) is a celeb ?? Does that represent the average US taste nowadays ? Well, so be it ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 2:52pm
Her parents had bought a house next to them in order for Chelsea to meet the residency requirements.
What's that mean ? No shitting on the floor of pissing out the window ? ;-)
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 3:26pm
Recognition is everything here, as most people are poorly educated. Here is an article about what Leroy just mentioned:
Clinton Die-Nasty
And here are "celebrities" who know as much as your average celebrity idolater:
J-Walking Celbritards
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 3:41pm
Makes me puke. The first....well, Ms. London/England is as ugly as can be (I DO hope the brain levels that out), and the second video...well....the gentleman just shuts up LOL
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 3:43pm
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 4:03pm
What's that mean ? No shitting on the floor of pissing out the window ? ;-)
Just means crapping and peeing in the right neighborhood to qualify for office.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 4:11pm
If that was the case my new puppy could run for office. His random enthusiasm wouldn't hurt either.
Yes, Chelsea always was a clock stopper. Who did she marry? A hedge fund partner who formerly worked for Goldman Sachs. Duh. Another marriage made in Hell. But now that Hillary has no power, she won't be able to pardon her son-in-law for whatever mischief he is currently up to.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 4:12pm
Seems it doesn't need more than the right connections to get into office. So no change, eh ?
But then: To get respect by the rest of the world (if you care for that, that is) you shouldn't get every handicapped into office. Or is that the newest trend ? white, black, Trump, then a handicapped woman who probably can't even spell politics ? 
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 4:43pm
Stoney, you just need to know how to manipulate things.  If you are a lawyer, you are quite literally above the law. 
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 5:11pm
Our personal FDR in RI got reelected. RI, btw, appears to stand for Republicans Incapacitated. We had two primary ballots: one for DIMs and one for RIPs/INDs. I did ultimately vote for Trump, but in RI voting Republican is nothing more than flushing your vote down the toilet. RI is Democratically polarized, paralyzed, and corrupt, and there is no hope in sight.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 11, 2016 - 5:19pm
I guess so. But then....all it needs is a little bit of (fake) empathy, and you get to people, no matter if they believe it or not, because they live on HOPE...
Leroy Added Nov 11, 2016 - 8:56pm
"The triumph of hope over experience."--Samuel Johnson.
It is one of my favorite expressions.  It was meant as a comment on second marriages, but it applicable to human nature in general.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 11, 2016 - 9:06pm
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again; but never the same way twice" - Hillary Clinton.
Stephen Hunter Added Nov 12, 2016 - 1:16pm
Ryan, now that the political War is over, it is time for peace. The best things happen when we are not marching unto war. Let's all try and have logical dialogue and work towards common ground. We are all good people at the core. 
Peter Corey Added Nov 12, 2016 - 2:17pm
> I do not trust McConnell. 
Neither do I. But I understand he was immensely helpful in the following way: He took advantage of a federal procedure that allowed the Senate to refrain from having to decide on a SCOTUS nominee, essentially allowing it to stall for time until after the election. This will allow President Trump to nominate constitutional originalists.
Peter Corey Added Nov 12, 2016 - 2:20pm
>A hedge fund partner who formerly worked for Goldman Sachs.
And whose father spent 5 years in prison for mail fraud and wire fraud.
This is like an old-fashioned "crime family" saga.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 12, 2016 - 2:36pm
Or a new one like Animal Kingdom starring Ma Clinton.
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 12, 2016 - 6:10pm
Ryan and all the others that have responded to this article check this out. 
2000 George W. Bush EC 271 Albert Gore EC 266
            50M                                   51M
2004 George W. Bush EC 286 John Kerry EC 251
          62M                                        59M
2008  John McCain EC 173 Barack Obama EC 365
          59M                                         69M
2012 Mitt Romney EC 206 Barack Obama EC 332         
          60M                                        65M
2016 Donald Trump EC 290  Hillary Clinton EC 228
          60M                                        61M
As you can see for the last thee elections the popular vote for the Republican have stay flat but the popular vote for the Democrats have steadily declined, the malaise economy and the program put forward just did not excite the base.   
The democrats for the George W. Bush years were less satisfied with a Republican administration so the popular vote increased, but the Republicans were satisfied popular vote increased.  The bubble burst ended the Republican's trust in them.  Where the the Democratic popular vote suggest that they were not involved in the bubble. 
 We have to remember that Ronald Reagan took 40 states that removed Carter with a malaise economy and a disastrous foreign policy.  His economic and foreign policy was so successful that he took 49 states to win a second term.  And George H. Bush his VP continued the Republican period in the White House.  But George H. Bush moved away from Reagan's approach so lost the White House not getting a second term.
So that does this say?  Well the obvious is that people vote their pocket book.  Second keep the campaign promises you make on the campaign trail.  Third voters rally in a crisis.  What are your thoughts?
Steve Borsher Added Nov 13, 2016 - 5:39pm
Backlash from too much focus and money spent on minorities, and not enough on rural whites. The pendulum is about to swing back, and the minorities are rioting because they know very well what is coming.
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 13, 2016 - 6:16pm
Steve B.,  here are the numbers for your comment.  County map you see that the cities went for Hillary for the most part.  The rural areas went for Trump.  Since the elector-college votes gives each state two vote for the senators thus low population states have a bigger voice then their population suggest.  They have a regional vote.  That forces the candidates to campaign in these areas.  That means the rural issues become important.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 13, 2016 - 8:55pm
I saw a couple interesting things: one was an interview with an older black man who didn't bother to vote because he didn't like either, but his wife voted for Trump; and possibly a full Republican card. Both had previously voted for 0bama. The other was that Chuck Todd showed in some areas Hillary lost, while in other areas Trump won outright, based upon previous voting patterns in recent elections, like in Wisconsin and Florida respectively.
Steve Borsher Added Nov 16, 2016 - 2:36pm
I think it is both funny and sad that the shoe is now on the other foot, and those that whined about Trump's violent supporters are now the violent ones. And Warren and Reid just cannot shut up. The DIMs are now the ones on total disarray, especially 0bama who is being oh so gracious in hopes that Trump will leave him some form of legacy. Well, good luck with that. Steve Bannon will be the henchman to take care of the weak-ass pretenders. Payback is a bitch. 

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