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This has been a tumultuous 2 years, actually much longer than that depending on your perspective and position in this society. I can only speak from mine, what I have personally seen, how my views have been influenced or changed over that time and how I feel today.  In trying to make people see both sides of the fence and giving factual data in a time of non-facts, or in the current trendy thing of “Fake News”, I can see now why that would not be appreciated by some, I must admit, it made no sense to me at that time.  I think I understand that thought process more now, although I must admit I still insist that a fact is fact.

 

I read an article and saw a you tube video a some time ago from one of the founders of the “False News” reports in social media.  He was a young guy and at the time I dismissed it because I thought he was just running his mouth.  This was NOT the man shown all over television for making money on doing this on the sites, this was the guy who planted the ideas for the stories. I thought it odd he was something called a “new republican” and he lived not far from the Eastern Shore of Maryland.  That was the first time I had heard about that and now some of those things are coming to light just now.

 

I'm still looking into the difference between “new republican”, The GOP and the tea party. I think I have it down and they are NOT the same.  The Tea Party just wants smaller government, less interference, period. The GOP is the opposition for the Democrats and they vary on views, but differ greatly within on the size and scope of governance.  Now the new Republicans I am told are the disenfranchised, forgotten by both parties. The ones that are angry and currently the driving force in America. To me they all overlap, but apparently not in many cases.  I could be wrong, but like I said that’s my take on it so far.

 

I am a registered Democrat, but had a hard time with that this election cycle and was not supportive.  Now I kind of feel bad about that because I actually don’t know what happened or why.  I’m torn on this part because I have not been a fan of the overreach by our intelligence for many years now.  In not being a fan, I often have had concerns about where the line gets drawn.   I have in fact fought against intelligence overreach on many occasions.  But the recent news concerns me for only one reason, Putin.  Not the Russian people or their way of life, which if you listen to the Russian people who do live there, Putin can be a dangerous man, like anyone with absolute power.   Many of his people support him though, he is a strong leader for the Ultra Nationalistic country.  There are other leaders like that in this world, he is only one of them.  In Russia, there is the  ЛДПР party, which is a liberal democratic party growing in strength.  I have heard two different versions on Crimea, so I remain neutral on that issue. We can hope for a peace and an open communication with Russia, but while others are eager to jump in that pond, historically with Putin, operating on the cautious side might be best.   However, how far he has affected the elections, remains to be seen, and if he did interfere with our democracy FOR ANY REASON, sanctions are a mild form of punishment for that.  I'm not going to debate this because no one on here has enough evidence to convince me over a skilled intelligence department evidence that is so far reaching we haven’t even begun to estimate as civilians what exactly happened. As I said, this is my opinion and observation over some time and good bit of research on our intelligence departments.

 

Which brings me to the PPACA. Its going to be repealed, due to the costs which I fully understand. It concerns me though that people are so self-involved. No other country in the world does not have a healthcare plan for their citizens. Unfortunately, I believe its much more than just worrying about ones self that will end the PPACA.  The program is very extensive and involves so much than just 20 million people, there will be a slice of America that will be injured by the plan to repeal without a replacement.  The Republicans have never promoted a plan in Congress that will insure people with pre-existing conditions and that is self- funding for those that have high insurance rates.  This is discriminatory for the 135 million Americans (51%) living with a preexisting condition. I know the cost of a policy without the protection of the PPACA w/o coverage for my medicines or healthcare on any preexisting condition, its almost 1,200 a month for HDC and that was some time ago.  Currently, Im sure it will be double if not triple that.  I can remember when you could not get healthcare with a preexisting condition even at your job or you got coverage but not for your preexisting condition.  This included life insurance, car insurance, home owners insurance, etc.  There is a great deal of Discrimination for those with a disability or preexisting conditions.  Several Presidents have addressed this; both Bush 41 and Bush 43 in legislation against discrimination for specific disabilities, along with Obama with healthcare.  There have been others that made great strides, but none so much as those in recent years. The proposed plan is called “A Better Way” and will be similar to the PPACA. The motivation is different due to required continuous coverage.  We will see, all I can tell you is the current law is VERY detailed and will affect people in various sectors aside from those on the PPACA due to the interrelated health and social programs.   This isn’t as much Trump though as it is Republicans in Congress.  Although if it does not go through as planned, Trump will bear the brunt of the backlash should it fail.

 

Now last but not least, Pres-elect Trump.  I will say this first and foremost, I don’t care for Trump, as an person, not at all. I have not cared much for his antics during the transition although I promised to be tolerant. But I do respect the office of President of these United States, therefore he will have some respect as he takes office and I will give him an opportunity to show what he is capable of doing for this country. I don’t have to like him, he just needs to do his job and represent all the people.  I must add, I don’t think he is capable of doing this, with both current and past performance. But I will give him the opportunity to try, which is FAR more than more than half the country is willing to do. Again, its opinion and what I have observed.

I kept my protesting at a minimum during his transition because I have spoken to the offices of the Senators directly, for issues I needed to address. I have been out a few times however, and the movement is quite large against everything this team is doing.  But please don’t say its worthless to do so, it really is how the tea party was formed in the first place which obstructed Obama for much of his two terms, even when Government was in Democratic control.

 

Now I am going to address the recent Golden Globe comment by Streep, because I saw it on another post.  “But there was one performance this year that stunned me. It sank its hook in my heart not because it was good. It was — there was nothing good about it, but it was effective, and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege, power, and the capacity to fight back. It kind of broke my heart, and I saw it, and I still can’t get it out of my head because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.   Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence insights violence. When the powerful use definition to bully others, we all lose.”   This isn’t a lecture, or a righteous indignation, it’s a request…from someone who was listed as a favorite performer of Trump’s  both in talent and as a person, to the elected leader of our country.  It directly speaks to the violence that can be incited by an influential person speaking out, or in his case acting out against the disadvantaged.  It is something commonly done by the ignorant, I felt she was VERY kind and not ballsy at all. She made a request of her President-elect, one celebrity to another in a public forum, something he is accustomed to.  Even his KellyAnn had a hard time defending this one, ”can’t you just look at whats in his heart?”   Nope I can’t, of the LONG list of offensive things he did during the election, this was by far the worst.  But that was an observation and something that offended me personally.  I am genuinely hoping he can act more professionally as President.

 

Lastly, the nominees for Trump’s cabinet, a very conservative bunch.  I am sure he picked mostly with heavy influence from Pence.  Partly due to the statements of Trump for his vision and the statements of the nominees of their positions, which I watched most of these so far on CSPAN.   I don’t care for Sessions, Tillerson and Mnuchin.  There are others that are problematic, but none so much as these three.  I was actually going to write an article just on Mnuchin, but decided he wasn’t worth my time.   He will do some damage when paired with Trump to the American public.  I do like General Mattis, General John Kelly, Gov. Nikki Hayley, and I am still undecided on a couple of the others.   Mostly I have observed, Trump has NOT drained the swamp, he has filled it with some serious complexities and while his nominees are not politicians, many are not public servants either.  This just feels like one huge business deal, what remains to be seen, is will Americans benefit or will it be Trump his and band of merry business men? Im going to ignore totally the LACK of ethics in any of this group, it’s a foregone conclusion. I don’t even understand why everyone is Soo upset. I really don’t, you can’t change anyone but yourself. He is NEVER going to take his name and or likeness off anything, ever and he loves being involved in his business.  I will not even be shocked if he has a picture of himself transposed via lights on the White House. LOL.  IF and when something happens, hopefully it is ONLY an Ethical problem for Trump.

 

So with all that being said, next week is inauguration day and we will see.  IT will NOT be boring, I am sure of that. We are used to comfort and a sureness of a regal couple with high standards in office, we are about to find out about the “new norm” and all that implies.   Perhaps, this is what we needed, perhaps not.  Welcome to 2017.

Comments

wsucram15 Added Jan 14, 2017 - 12:21am
Not going to argue..just an observance, you are free to discuss yours.
Thomas Napers Added Jan 14, 2017 - 3:56am
It is a fake news story that Russia manipulated voting results.  It’s a real news story that Russia hacked into the DNC (a private institution) and leaked embarrassing emails.  Shame on Russia and shame on the DNC for not being more careful.  Also, shame on the DNC for lying and cheating in order to be sure Hillary was nominated, among other revelations learned from the leaks. 
 
It’s also a real news story that liberals can’t stop talking about Russia as a means to delegitimize Trump’s honest victory.  As it relates to what to do about Russia’s state sponsored hacking program, I think we should adopt one of our own.  We should prepare ourselves to use it in retaliation for when it’s done to us. 
 
It’s also a real news story that Obama was aware of Russia’s hacking program way before the DNC was hacked.  Obama chose to do something about it at the twilight of presidency and only after it harmed the DNC negatively.  This proves the sanctions are more about feeding into the fake news story that Russia affected the voting results.  It will also complicate Trump’s efforts to improve our relations with Russia.  The reason, the fake news purveyors of the world will obviously attempt to make it look like Trump and Putin are friends, leading some to believe that Trump had something to do with Russia’s hacking operation.  Speaking of which, that’s exactly what you did in this article. 
 
Crimea was invaded and annexed by Russia. What’s there to be neutral about?  Where do you get your news from?
Bill H. Added Jan 14, 2017 - 12:30pm
 
Here is a link to a declassified version of the actual report of Russia's efforts to alter the election from the US Intelligence community. Notice that it is from an actual US Government website, and not a fake news blog:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 14, 2017 - 12:59pm
'No name', I place Golden Globe comment by Meyrl Streep orders of magnitude below the comments of parent, children, relatives, and close friend of the people murdered in this country.   I also put the comments of the media along side Streep because they are talking along the same vane as  Meyrl Streep.  The stuff Buss Feed put out and then CNN reported on shows the depth of depravity they will stoop to along the same vane as Meyrl Streep.  It is a very sharp comparison to hear on the local news those that no longer have a love one close to them any more due to murder.  An adult child said Christmas is not the same because her mother made Christmas for the family.  She was murdered last year.  These second hand victims are the real news, facts.  I have not heard of one showing any support of 'Black Lives Matter' because the truth is that it is oxymoron title and they know it.  I have not heard  these second hand victims sounding any way like Al Sharpton, Holder, mayors of sanctuary cities, Bidden, and Obama.  Their are a few exception, the parents of  Tryvon Martin a 17yr old, Micheal Brown an 18yr old, etc. showing the propensity toward violence, likely learned from their parents.  
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 14, 2017 - 1:09pm
As far as Obamacare (PPACA)  poles for years have shown that 63% of the people DO NOT LIKE MOST OF THE LAW.  And the number of young people choosing to face fines because the do not want to waste there money shows that this is an accurate percentage.  'No Name' we have the video of Prof. Gruber that tell us in six videos that the law was written knowing that if Obama and the other politicians told the truth it would not pass, become law.    All the 2008 through 2013 re-election of Obama talk about Obamacare are lies.  Compare the facts to the video from this period.
 
The country deserve to have it repealed because it is a LIE.  The GOP have put forth principle and elements of the replacement but to not 'lie' they can not present a bill.  You see 'no name' bills are created by congress in committees containing Democrats and Republicans and  thus the exact content of the bill is unknown.  You know as then speaker Nancy Pelosi said of the ACA bill "we have to pass it to know what is in it"  but that did not stop them from lying about what was in it now did it 'no name."
 
wsucram15 Added Jan 14, 2017 - 6:02pm
Thomas;
My news on Crimea that conflicts are the reports you speak of and Russian people that live here and visit relatives at home. Now how accurate either story is, IDK. Im not there. Ive seen pictures of happy people and war crimes.   I stay neutral because I actually do not know someone from Crimea.   Im not saying it didn't happen, I believe McCain..and I dont trust Putin, but I will stay neutral until this situation escalates. Which I am not sure it will.
If you are going to say the media or government makes up stories about this or that in some areas, how are you to believe stories in countries you know nothing about?
 
You as usual are wrong on the polls, even Republicans want a replace before repeal, only 14% want repeal and dont care about anyone else. But Im not going to argue with you. I understand your opinion and respect you have the right to differ with me, but do not give me a hard time about this because I dont share your beliefs on this topic. There is no replacement that will do what the PPACA does.  I will give Paul Ryan credit for trying and hope he succeeds, it benefits over half of America if he does.
 
 
I really dont agree with you on anything else EXCEPT I dont think I mentioned Trumps Golden Shower romp as exposed on Buzz Feed, which I would have to agree that exposing that was not appropriate.  I feel differently about the Streep speech, since I have a disability and also I knew of a boy in the town I grew up that was tortured and killed because he was disabled. So Im sorry but on that point, you are wrong and I disagree completely.
 
I wrote this for me and for you to discuss with others.  Not to insult me, I actually deal with this often enough in person on the phone or in protests.  I like to write, this was an article of observance and opinion, based on what I have seen and observed.  If you had asked me three months ago, what I thought of Trump..it would have been completely negative in every way and I believe I was pretty open about that.
Now I am stepping back and am willing to give him a break while he enters office and begins his term. 
Thanks for your comments
wsucram15 Added Jan 14, 2017 - 6:50pm
BillH..
 As you know, Im not a big fan of the news.  But thank you I did read it in full from your link and as I suspected a good bit is gone from the report.  My freaky neighbor works for NSA and I tried to ask him about all of this,  but his usual freaky weird self, looked at me like I was from outer space. So I'm guessing he doesn't know a damn thing..lol.
My interest in this, solely..is even though Trump may or may not have further encouraged this, how much, if anything, did he or his team know? Did they communicate with anyone to accomplish this?
 
How much impact did this actually have on the outcome of the election? Its impossible to tell.  But Putin has a one up coming.
Thomas Napers Added Jan 15, 2017 - 3:43am
One does not need to know someone in Crimea to know what happened in Crimea.  So you can play the ignorant card if you like, as for me, I think Crimea was a wake-up call to the rest of the world.  The world now knows that Russia is capable of invading and annexing other sovereign nation at gun point.  No amount of escalation or de-escalation will change that fact.    So bury your head in the sand if you like, let’s hope our politicians are more honest and serious than you.  
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 15, 2017 - 9:06am
I said, "63% of the people DO NOT LIKE MOST OF THE LAW." which is not the same as, "14% want repeal and don't care about anyone else."
 
There are TWO Thomas.  Which makes your comments confusing. 
 
Meryl Streep speech has two parts I did not address her comment about Trump and his arm motions.  That after seeing on fox video of him using the exact same hand and body motions for other totally different people and things suggest that he was not doing what Streep though.   Going on a national stage without investigating suggest that no one in her crowd even considered investigating before putting she put her foot in her mouth.  And the so called new programs didn't do there do-diligent  either.   That is why they are fake news.  Because new requires investigation.  
 
Please explain the insult?  I was clearly comparing her feeling to the feelings of the people going to funerals of loved ones being murdered in cities like Chicago.  Hers are make believe theirs are real. 
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 15, 2017 - 5:44pm
WSUCRAM15 notes: there will be a slice of America that will be injured by the plan to repeal without a replacement.-That's just what those advocating simple repeal want:  to hurt somebody, preferably one of "the Others."  wsucram15's article hit on what made me a total anti-Trumpist was mentioning: It sank its hook in my heart not because it was good. It was — there was nothing good about it, but it was effective, and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege, power, and the capacity to fight back.- That's Trump, folks.  And as some have indicated here, that's the Trumpeter's attitude about "the Other."  That disabled reporter incident gave permission to Trumpeters to let fly at folks with disabilities, as was the intent of doing it.  It's pointless to try and explain this to folks like the Sutrino, who just want to see damage done and pain inflicted just "because."  We've got folks here..."The Usual Suspects," cheerleading for pro-Trumpist violence against anyone protesting the day after "Day Zero.  Real Americans, those...full of "freedom and liberty" until it come to things they don't want to hear.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jan 15, 2017 - 6:08pm
Funny. The biggest hacker and spy, the US which virtually owns the net, complains about being hacked.
 
Hilarious LOL
 
MJ Added Jan 15, 2017 - 6:44pm

Jeanne, hi, I have to get to know you all over again.
The moderate Jeanne I knew for 10 months has completely disappeared and a new Jeanne took her place?  
 You made a 360-degree turn on your outlook on things in general, what changed you?
You know I have defended you before when someone on WB made a remark about you and your son, but I cannot understand why were you so cruel to let your daughter be part of WB when she was obviously not ready? 
This is the new Jeanne I am talking about.
Instead of taking responsibility for your action, you started to blame everyone else on WB. 
Something drastic happened to you about 3 months ago?
Patrick Writes Added Jan 15, 2017 - 7:03pm
"No other country in the world does not have a healthcare plan for their citizens." 
 
Lots of countries don't. See the link below. South Africa, a first world country, doesn't. 
 
https://www.quora.com/What-countries-dont-have-free-universal-health-care-and-why
 
Trump and the Republicans have promised in the last few weeks they will ensure that folks with pre-existing conditions are covered, whatever they do. 
 
It's worth keeping in mind that nearly every country that has a single-payer system has nothing remotely like Medicare for all, or a cushy American-style large corporate group policy. New Zealand doesn't cover dental. Germany has compulsory private insurance policy that funds there. NHS in U.K. has rationed care, salary caps, and some charges. Most countries with a single-payer systems, suing for malpractice is hard and is capped quite low if successful. 
 
Bernie Sanders-style, "Medicare for all" free is and always was a pipe dream. 
MJ Added Jan 15, 2017 - 7:25pm
Patrick, your info on South Africa is wrong.
The poor gets free medical care at all state hospitals.
That is why we are so upset about illegal foreigners bribing officials to get free medical care and depleting our resources.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 15, 2017 - 7:36pm
MJ goes Tommy and Billy with: Instead of taking responsibility for your action, you started to blame everyone else on WB.  Something drastic happened to you about 3 months ago? -Who knows what the motivation is, MJ?  I'm not really sure where fault or "blame" play into this, if at all.  If it's a problem for you, mount a response, if not, as you want me to, "let it go." A lot happened to a whole bunch of folks here three months ago, and was ample cause to reevaluate and dig in.
Patrick Writes Added Jan 15, 2017 - 8:09pm
MJ, sorry, I used to work with someone from SA who said no free health insurance in SA.
MJ Added Jan 15, 2017 - 8:28pm
Jeff, you don`t understand---I thought I knew Jeanne and regarded her as a friend.
MJ Added Jan 15, 2017 - 8:32pm
Patrick, yes we do not have free health insurance for the middle and high-income group...........we have different medical schemes for them.
 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 15, 2017 - 8:32pm
MJ complains: Jeff, you don`t understand---I thought I knew Jeanne and regarded her as a friend. - I understand just fine, but do you?  Your friendships seem a tad thin, even for here on WB, so if this is the case, you lose, I don't know if wsucram15 loses much, or you, by your admission.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jan 16, 2017 - 9:20am
MJ
 
Switzerland is the same. For the poor, social security pays for health insurance and treatment. Of couse it's not the same standard as private health care, but it's more than sufficient.
wsucram15 Added Jan 16, 2017 - 5:11pm
MJ..I have been on here for 3 years. My daughter was on here for a month, maybe 6 weeks while I was busy during the Christmas rush in my Glass shop. I would have to look at her comments. I had her delete some things and apologize to Expat and SEF over things I had told her and things she said that were personal to them.  I knew about it because of an email I got.  My first article was in December, I deleted my stuff because it wasnt hers to utilize.
I try to get along with everyone, difference of opinion or not.
Everyone- Right after the election here for those of us relatively involved with groups that work with volunteerism, the poor, the rights of women and civil rights (for my part mostly against MONEY in politics, the intelligence community, unemployment, stuff like that)
THINGS EXPLODED!  I was sooo busy, not over Hillary Clinton, whom I didnt vote for but really trying to keep things from getting worse with groups I worked with, that I just slept when I wasnt working on Glass or calming people down.
 
Now things have had a chance to settle down and are more organized.  To be honest, as long as people arent getting hurt, I am happy with that.
I promised that I would slow down and I have, for now. I am only partaking in conferences and phone calls presently on topics that matter to me.
 
My opinions have never wavered MJ.  I have told people repeatedly that I am a conservative liberal.  Not a progressive, not a hippie, nothing like that.  I have some very social oriented views and some small government views.
 
William Stockton Added Jan 16, 2017 - 6:43pm
@MJ, "The moderate Jeanne I knew for 10 months has completely disappeared and a new Jeanne took her place?"
 
wsucrammer is a general login for a number of people.  These people are probably remnants of the days (pre-election) when there was a concerted attempt by the democrats to flood sites like these with pro-Hillary articles.  Paid posters.  Democrats paid 10s of millions of dollars to flood alternative media sites with these trolls.
 
Did you note the coincidence?  Right after the election, "Jeanne" canceled her account.  Hmm hmm.  "Jeanne" was a paid article troll for the left.  She now sneaks in under her "daughter's" account which probably also has other contributors under the same login.
 
These wacknuts (or opportunists) are complete frauds.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 16, 2017 - 7:08pm
William "Stock"ton finally IDs himself: These wacknuts (or opportunists) are complete frauds. - Well, doesn't seem and better for you, rightist hypocrite/woman hater et al.  Billy boy continues: Did you note the coincidence?  Right after the election, "Jeanne" canceled her account.  Hmm hmm.  "Jeanne" was a paid article troll for the left. - OH YEAH, AND IF THAT'S TRUE THEN YOU ARE AN UNPAID TROLL FOR RIGHTISTS.  YOU CLOWNS CAN'T LET YOUR Clinton HATE-DERANGEMENT SYNDROME GO.  KEEP UP THE "SNAPPY DIALOGUE," "RUSH."  You must have gotten your new 'script for oxycontin, so can try like "the pro." YOU RATTLE ON WITH YOUR FAKE NEWS ABOUT "PAID POSTERS" WITHOUT A SINGLE CITE, and because You are perpping the fake news, it must be true?
Jeff Michka Added Jan 16, 2017 - 7:10pm
wsucram15 notes: THINGS EXPLODEDI was sooo busy, not over Hillary Clinton, whom I didnt vote for but really trying to keep things from getting worse with groups I worked with, that I just slept when I wasnt working on Glass or calming people down. - I hope not in the kiln.
wsucram15 Added Jan 16, 2017 - 7:13pm
Actually wsucram15 is my son's name spelled backwards and his age at the time I began using this online name to write and blog, which would be 12 years now. I have never seen it used anywhere else, if you have..it is possibly me.  I never used my name online, ever, until I went for my masters and I had to set up social media for marketing and business classes in my name. 

I never cancelled my account on here, I changed the name, deleted MY articles to let my daughter write for awhile.   Mark, stop hating on me, I have never been anything but fair to you.   I have not had time to harrass you (paid or not).  I was busy doing things that  if I had to argue, it would be in a forum where it would not be counter-productive.
I like some of the people on this site, at times, you have been one of them willing to listen to objectivity and point out where perhaps I should look for further research.  I have respected that, until now.
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 16, 2017 - 7:37pm
What amazes me on WB is how few any will accept responsibility for their own comments.  You get MJ whining like she'd been sold out, somehow, Billy Stockton doing his typical rightist nonsense, but it's always someone else's fault when, as in 99% of the time, he's wrong.  Now. that "good ol' rightist" group are a bunch of unpaid "patriots," and just awash in "freedumb and liberty" and folks like MJ are "misunderstood, " right?  Misunderstood by whom?
wsucram15 Added Jan 16, 2017 - 9:25pm
Jeff,  No..the kiln is 1700 degrees.  Its a might toasty in there.  Ill open it at 450 degrees but not after that.  That sucker is HOT.  All I can say about fusing glass is it makes your finger tips rough, which I hate.  When I worked with hot glass (blowing art glass) its different because the glass is molten and you never touch it, except with tools to shape it.  Eventually, once you have your shape, you snap the form off the tube and put it in the annealer. 
Fusing is in between blowing hot glass and cutting for mosaic or stained glass.  The process is a little of both, which I like.  You design and cut like stained glass but melt it into designs like hot glass.  I can make all kinds of things, jewelry, vases, bowls, plates..etc.  The only thing that limits you is imagination and the size of your kiln.
 
In March, I am moving up to the largest kiln I can (120v)before the Spring shows.  I need to make some larger pieces for the shows then. 
 
Also, stop stressing about people on WB..is it really worth all this?
Come on here say what you have to say, talk to who you want (everyone else does) and go about doing what you enjoy doing.
When they go low...you go^  :)
Jeff Michka Added Jan 16, 2017 - 9:53pm
wsucram15 notes: Come on here say what you have to say, talk to who you want (everyone else does) and go about doing what you enjoy doing.- I guess I have a strong dislike for the hypocritical nonsense I read here, and will point that out.  Geeze, if I came in here and openly wondered about another person like MJ does, and who is extremely critical of some others, including me, and declare "Person XYZ has changed, and I don't understand" won't or refuses to examine themselves as the one who "changed," and so they say the other "changed."  If it's a matter of morals, that may be one thing, but as a matter of perception, I do wonder.  As said, I'd rather do a lot of things other than excoriate Nazis and their buddies, but they don't seem to stop, neither do I as a matter of principle.  And I'll find more room for "light" articles much like "Beer and Loathing," since "serious" anything here isn't worth the time given the comments and storage-jar politics of commenters.  A two paragraph comment discussing unions and their sacrifices got instantly scorched by the WB rightist brigade for "all unions are bad, we say they are."  Yet I BET these same complainers do whine when asked to work more than a 40 hr. week or have a weekend, but will only condemn the people who died and organized labor that got those promises from employers.  Remembering it's the employers still pushing back that want a 50-60 hr work week as "fair."
Jeff Michka Added Jan 16, 2017 - 9:56pm
wsucram communicates a "nice thought:" When they go low...you go^. Perhaps, but on WB, when they go low, they'll go lower. Fine, but they'll also hear about it.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 16, 2017 - 10:13pm
Was someone implying that there may be people paid to write rhetoric on WB? anyone else wonder about whatever happened to Messano? Seemed to disappear from WB right after the election.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 9:58am
Stephan Hunter asks: Was someone implying that there may be people paid to write rhetoric on WB? anyone else wonder about whatever happened to Messano? Seemed to disappear from WB right after the election. Ol' Billy bob Stockpot wasn't implying, he was accusing re: wsucrammer is a general login for a number of people.  These people are probably remnants of the days (pre-election) when there was a concerted attempt by the democrats to flood sites like these with pro-Hillary articles.  Paid posters.  Democrats paid 10s of millions of dollars to flood alternative media sites with these trolls.- Of course, ol Billy Bobber Stockfootage offers no cites or proof, but like most WB rightists just "says, so it must be so."
  
As to Messianic Messano, he'd love for some gawd sop to pay him for anything.  He loved smearing for smearings sake as a "good Xtain," inbetween whispering with all the dead "Founding Fathers" who helped him decide who was going to hell for the day or not.  bILLY bOY STOCKPOT writes more nonsense about wsucram15:  Did you note the coincidence?  Right after the election, "Jeanne" canceled her account.  Hmm hmm.  "Jeanne" was a paid article troll for the left.  She now sneaks in under her "daughter's" account which probably also has other contributors under the same login. Again, Billy boy has no proof...you just gotta believe him...
MJ Added Jan 17, 2017 - 11:34am
Jeff, that is what I have against you gay people, you have absolutely no boundaries!
I have tried to be patient with you because you like to play the role of a drama queen, but REALLY? 
When did Autumn invite you to give commentary on comments? Busybody par excellence!!
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 12:48pm
MJ smears from her SA bunker: Jeff, that is what I have against you gay people, you have absolutely no boundaries! - I Could throw in I'm not gay, but you are an SAer deep down, you are not only a racist, but a fool in words, and I'd presume deeds.  Can't wait for all those black tenet folks swarming your little cottage, brandishing very sharp machetes to whack you into small pieces as directed to do so by their Jewish slave masters, or is it Illuminati?  You're just an unfunny clown, MJ.  And easy, MJ, I need neither Autumn's or your permission to comment on your whiney complaints.  And it's Jeanne who changed?  Jeanne hasn't become a screaming homophobe, You have.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 1:01pm
MJ cries: Busybody par excellence!! Think it was from your little fingers we've read all sorts of little half-baked opinions supporting various factions you need to support on WB in order for them to support you and your "ideas," MJ.  you've been extremely critical of me, yet any whiff of being critical of MJ, the non-critical thinker, and it's smears and accusations.  Little surprise from someone so vacuous as you appear to be.  I'm waiting for the "hack, hack" sounds of machetes near you...
Een'ough Added Jan 17, 2017 - 1:42pm
Trump did NOT mock a disabled reporter, this is old news, and just another pathetic lie on the part of the Dems. He made a gesture which (and many others) make when generally mocking someone. It was not done to ridicule that person. 
 
The virtue signalling has got to end. It's completely out of control.
George N Romey Added Jan 17, 2017 - 2:22pm
Most Americans are lost with the I Spy Games that are going on. Most probably don't give a damn if the Russians hacked the Democratic Party.  Trump is on a very short leash.  Some of his voters voted for him out of desperation and the fact that at least he acknowledged the need for change. But as we saw with Obama seeing and doing are not the same.  Trump could be flat on his ass in a matter of weeks if he can't get with the program.
 
I'm more concerned about Pence as VP and the three cabinet picks noted in the article.  The cabinet picks can do real damage (or good to be fair) if Trump becomes a mental no show on the job.  
 
Sadly, the Democrats instead of retooling themselves are just continuing to be the party of big money pretending to be the friend of everyday Americans.
wsucram15 Added Jan 17, 2017 - 3:31pm
Ok..I dont like to argue. But I take issue with two comments on here. Ian-First, the definition of "mock" by Merriam Webster- an act of ridicule or derision : jeer,  OR one that is an object of derision or scorn; OR an act of imitation, b : something made as an imitation.
LOOK IT UP.  TRUMP MOCKED A DISABLED PERSON. IT WAS DISGUSTING.  PERIOD, the fact you defended him in any way, puts you in that uneducated and apathetic class.
 
SEcond-MJ- to single out anyone, as different or incorrect becuase they are homosexual (even though it might be a religious preference IS WRONG.  WHO MADE YOU JUDGE AND JURY?  GOD IS THE ONLY RIGHTFUL JUDGE OF MANKIND.  IT disgusted me when Ryan Messano did it and I will disagree with you on this.  You can feel how you want, but you dont have a right to judge. 
Luke 6;37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;
James 4:11-12
"Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?"
Romans 2:1-3
"Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?"
John 8:7
"And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her.” 

 
Shall I go on? I know the bible mentions other things about homosexuals, but those are various versions.  No one is to judge, not your job.
 
All I am saying, you are to forgive others...Period. Wow
 
 
wsucram15 Added Jan 17, 2017 - 4:04pm
Stephen-I think Messano was going to run for a local office, his writing on WriterBeat and other print was not conducive to that. 
 
Also Thomas...Im not sure where you get your totals, but mine differ greatly and are from today and this week.  Trumps numbers are down as are that of Republicans.   BUT, I will say..we are a nation divided and I have seen this not on the news, but up close.  I am not sure how this will mend or if it will.  It began with the Tea party and GOP, and now Democrats are picking up the methods used by them. 
It has been encouraged and it would take so little to stop it...but I doubt that will happen.  We shall see.  But Im not going to argue with you.  I find you biased and uninformed as to the entire picture.   You and people like you (on both sides mind you) are the problem.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 17, 2017 - 4:54pm
The 63%  I got from Sean  Hannity  The worst is 63% and the best is 39%.   Average since 2012 appears to be close to 50% with it going higher generally with time.  This is an article that looks at many questions on a poll taken January 10, 2017 where the voters know it will be changed. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

Washington Post-ABC News poll  54% of Americans oppose Obamacare 6 point increase in a year.  June 9 2015 Brietbart.com

60% of Americans support repeal, while only 23% oppose it.  McLaughlin & assoc. asked 1,000 likely voters in Oct 1, 2014 Weaklystandard.com

56% of Americans disapprove of ACA 37% approve of the law  Noc 17, 2014 Gallup.com

A list of polls over time shows the worst at 63% Rasmussen Report 5/22  in 2014  
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
 
 
Remember that the media attacks the GOP and Trump.  And have put Obama on his last pedestal before leaving office.  And put every negative comment about Trump as lead stories.  Even the media says they are bias and they are acting that way.   Obama has gotten away with thing and so has Hillary that the GOP can note hope to consider.  So Yes they are down in the polls.  Is it a wonder why they won.  Hillary is so bad the media could not cover the smell of corruption up.
George N Romey Added Jan 17, 2017 - 5:05pm
I doubt Mess could get elected.  But good luck to him.  What I can't get is the people who haven't figured out yet that both parties are in on the joke.  What the Democratic Party did to Sanders should dispel any belief that they are the party of honor, equality and fairness.  Both parties have been shrills for the relatively few in this country that are doing amazingly and fabulously well and want the government at bay while we fight among ourselves.  Its the oldest trick in the book and despite our allegedly advanced economy and population we have fallen for it again.
 
I don't know what Donald Trump will do.  I have serious doubts but so did so many about Lincoln.  After all he was a simple lawyer from Illinois that others saw as dim witted at times.  I think its wrong for the 50 congressmen/women to sit out the Inauguration.   
 
Despite the rosy picture being painted to us our economy is in dire trouble.  We are sitting on numerous powder kegs of dynamite any of which could (and probably will) go off in the early Trump years.  Last time we bailed out the bad actors and papered over the rest leaving too many Americans permanently under class.  
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 5:20pm
Nazi Tom writes: Now that the PC era is ending, can we use the word "retard" again?  I know, bad taste.  ;) When it applies to you and Billy, sure we can.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 5:24pm
wsucram15 writes: LOOK IT UP.  TRUMP MOCKED A DISABLED PERSON. IT WAS DISGUSTING.  PERIOD, the fact you defended him in any way, puts you in that uneducated and apathetic class. "Ian" is a Trumpeter.  He took the Dec '15 mocking as a call to attack the abled and challenge community.  Probably went around pushing people down that used a cane.  Those people get ALL the good parking, after all!  Can't have that! There are good white people that need that good parking...ask them.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 17, 2017 - 5:29pm
wsucram15 notes to Stephan Hunter: Stephen-I think Messano was going to run for a local office, his writing on WriterBeat and other print was not conducive to that. - I believe his claim was he "was going into administration" of an elected.  As to Messianic himself, his stuff posted here alone would put an oppo researcher in heaven for several election cycles.  I know one person that mentioned that to him more than once when he got "promoted" to "poster in chief" here on WB by Autumn not too long before he fled.
Een'ough Added Jan 18, 2017 - 1:43pm
wsucram15 what I meant was he didn't MOCK THE DISABILITY, and WELL YOU KNOW IT. Get off your high horse and speak the truth. I don't know how you people can sleep at night. 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 18, 2017 - 4:21pm
Ian, it's a last name and a job description, Ho' whines: wsucram15 what I meant was he didn't MOCK THE DISABILITY, and WELL YOU KNOW IT. Get off your high horse and speak the truth. I don't know how you people can sleep at night.  - Others can sleep just fine, Ian...OTOH, you have to perpetually lie to defend a scumbag disguising themselves as the President elect.  You can't admit the Orange Il Duce's "sins" that weren't "cleansed" during watersports.  I guess abled and challenged people in "sweet home, Moscow" get treated as badly.  So, it must be okay, right?
wsucram15 Added Jan 18, 2017 - 6:57pm
Thomas use more current statistics.  You will find yours are WAAYYYY off.  Peoples opinions change frequently,.
Jeff..that was to intern.  I think he was going into politics, he sold one insurance agency and bought into another that was more profitable. But I think he was selling that or had sold that also.  Not sure on the sale portion in the latter though.
Ryan wrote about it a couple of times, I dont doubt he could get elected.  He did ok for himself, he is republican with some money and now a GF. He also thinks like a new republican.  Hes golden.
 
Jeff..did I delete a comment from someone  named Ian?  You did a good job there..thanks
 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 18, 2017 - 7:44pm
wsucram15 informs: - Thanks for Ryan info, FWIW. and Jeff..did I delete a comment from someone  named IanYou did a good job there..thanks- No worries, Ian is another fake news composter.  I don't think you deleted him, but he's not come back defending himself again for something there is really no "defense" for. wsucram15 further notes on Ryan the Magnificent: He did ok for himself, he is republican with some money and now a GF. He also thinks like a new republican.  Hes golden.  Won't disagree with that, however he showed his hand a little too much.  OR folks could have a real field day with his stuff.  If it was me in the OR seat, I would. 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 18, 2017 - 9:19pm
Subatomic Sutrino tries to write: The 63%  I got from Sean  Hannity  - What did you get the other 37% of your social disease from?  Al Capone had it, he died in prison.  Hannity will die from poor ratings.
wsucram15 Added Jan 19, 2017 - 11:01pm
Jeff.. just ignore Sutrina. He is a hardliner, and hes intelligent, but like many Trump supporters that dont listen to facts and created the divides we are dealing with NOW, dont want to hear the truth.  Well its coming back at them now. 
In a very big way.   Perhaps baby steps at first, but it will grow larger and larger.  We needed a leader and we have them now.
Mark Hunter Added Jan 20, 2017 - 2:21am
I appreciate your views, wsucram15. I don't comment much because I hate getting into pointless arguments, but I would like to point out that there are still some people out there who weigh both sides of the issue. As for me, after following her for all these years I despite Hillary Clinton with every fiber of my being ... but I also dislike Trump, and don't get me started on Putin. It was a very difficult election for me, and I'm far from the only one.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 20, 2017 - 7:47pm
wsucram15 writes: Jeff.. just ignore Sutrina. He is a hardliner, and hes intelligent, but like many Trump supporters that dont listen to facts and created the divides we are dealing with NOW, dont want to hear the truth.  Well its coming back at them now. - He is in Jeff lexicon, a Sutrino...a newly discovered sub atomic particle with a very short life span.  Glad you deem him intelligent.  I just don't, however, know.  Seems quite a Trumpian parrot.  Yup, back to our neighborhoods and communities, the places that will take the hits during the Trump regime.  It should make all Trumpist breasts swell with pride how he'll hurt "the Other," for them.  He's gonna hurt "the Other, oh boy, oh boy!"    ' and we'll get what would normally go to them."  Failing to acknowledge any culpability in their own demises.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 20, 2017 - 7:50pm
wsucram15 suggests, regarding Sutrino: He is a hardliner, and hes intelligent, but Sutrino writes: The 63%  I got from Sean  Hannity  - That alone ended any speculation regarding intellect.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 21, 2017 - 8:10pm
Yes Jeff I have a hardline of following the LAW which is the written Constitution not the "living Constitution created by things like executive decision and political hacks in charge of departments. 
 
So let me get back to the other half of your statement.  The 63%  I got from Sean  Hannity  The worst is 63% and the best is 39%.   Average since 2012 appears to be close to 50%  and appears slightly above.  So Jeffrey boy these are the numbers:

Washington Post-ABC News poll  54% of Americans oppose Obamacare 6 point increase in a year.  June 9 2015 Brietbart.com

60% of Americans support repeal, while only 23% oppose it.  McLaughlin & assoc. asked 1,000 likely voters in Oct 1, 2014 Weaklystandard.com

56% of Americans disapprove of ACA 37% approve of the law  Noc 17, 2014 Gallup.com

A list of polls over time shows the worst at 63% Rasmussen Report 5/22  in 2014  
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
Thomas Sutrina Added Jan 21, 2017 - 8:16pm
Jeffrey Boy you added something to the article 29 times.   Not one contains a reference that is use to back up your words.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 21, 2017 - 9:59pm
Suibatomic Sutrino spouts a lousy defense: Jeffrey Boy you added something to the article 29 times.   Not one contains a reference that is use to back up your words. - Let's see...should I cite Alex Jones or "breitbart" to meet you needs?  And looking back, I should have cited something for you being a perpetual rightist twit?

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