Matthew Katzeff Alternative Reply Posting (and other trivia)

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Feel free to post your replies to Matthew Katzeff's writings here if your replies are being deleted. Simply define what article you are replying to and go for it! Nothing will be deleted, I promise!


J. Riddle Added Feb 2, 2017 - 10:41pm
(A worthy service--good for you.)
Bill H. Added Feb 2, 2017 - 10:42pm
Every once in a while we get a newbie that can't handle the wrath of the WB crowd. Their initial response is to use the delete feature to try and keep things mellow.
Well Matt, we will use alternative measure #2 to allow free speech to continue on this site.
J. Riddle Added Feb 3, 2017 - 12:40am
Be sure to allow him to comment here too, if he wants.
J. Riddle Added Feb 3, 2017 - 12:42am
Oddly enough, Katzeff, not too long  ago (though well before I was here), offered up a whine about one of the other writers here allegedly deleting his comments on her work. Accused her of being "hypocritical." Now, he's written an article--apparently his first since then--and he's systematically deleting the critical comments it draws. Like so many rightists these days, he applies a different set of rules to himself than to others, and isn't troubled by accusing those others of hypocrisy for things he, himself, does.
The right-wing Rage Machine in the U.S. encourages its consumer to seal himself inside a bubble of puerile political fantasies with as little intercourse with reality as possible and Katzeff's new article is the sort of narrative that can only form and fester inside that bubble. He now writes that "[liberals']... propensity to conflate or significantly distort facts, or in many cases outright lie or misrepresent is at an all-time high" and that "the liberals tend to conflate issues or completely misrepresent facts since reality does not suit their agenda," but he, himself, leads by asserting that liberals are on their way to becoming extinct while
"President Trump’s popularity is soaring (over the past ten days Rasmussen’s polls show his approval between 53-59%!)."
Rasmussen is, of course, a long running joke in the polling world, an org that uses loaded methodologies to generate right-wing propaganda, not legitimate polling data, and is notorious as one of the least reliable pollsters in the business. Where do Trump's numbers really stand? After the election, Americans offered him the traditional good will extended to any new administration but with Trump, that has still translated into massive unpopularity, starting with "a historic low for incoming American presidents." His current average stands at only 43.7% favorable and, as the chart at the link illustrates, Trump's favorability average has never even made it up to 50% since he entered the presidential race. In the newest poll on the subject, by Public Policy Polling and released today, only 45% have a "favorable opinion" of Trump and we read:

"Less than 2 weeks into Donald Trump's tenure as President, 40% of voters already want to impeach him. That's up from 35% of voters who wanted to impeach him a week ago. Only 48% of voters say that they would be opposed to Trump's impeachment. Beyond a significant percentage of voters already thinking that Trump should be removed from office, it hasn't taken long for voters to miss the good old days of Barack Obama...52% say they'd rather Obama was President, to only 43% who are glad Trump is."
In the real world, even the traditional post-election bump has left Trump deeply unpopular. Point that out in a comment on Katzeff's article and you'll be quickly deleted by the same author who writes that liberals "are just petulant children – snowflakes having one temper tantrum after another since they didn’t get their way."
Katzeff asserts that Trump's travel ban "is NOT a Muslim ban" and writes of the targeted countries, "EVERYONE FROM THOSE COUNTRIES, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGION are temporarily banned from entering the US." The reality:
"The order doesn’t mention Christians, but it commits the United States to 'prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality.'”
In short, a Muslim ban that privileges Christian refugee claims. Most of the article from which that comes is nothing more than a long collection of Trump quotes tracing the history of the current executive order, which Trump began by unequivocally calling a Muslim ban then said he was merely changing his terminology to "regions" rather than Muslims.
Katzeff: "Oh and by the way, this travel ban is protecting ALL AMERICANS – including our Muslim citizens, as they are just as much in danger from terrorism as anyone else."
Bill H. Added Feb 3, 2017 - 1:09am
J.Riddle - Of course Mr. Katzeff is welcome to post any comments he wants here without fear of being deleted. I have strong views on certain subjects, as do yourself and many others out here. It is all about being able to express differing views without being censored, slandered, or simply being labeled with the usual tags if a response does not match the "platform" of the recipient.
Thanks for your post. Sir!
Bill H. Added Feb 3, 2017 - 1:38am
Matt also stated "but it has only been three months since President Trump was elected, and he has already created or saved 200,000 jobs".
My deleted reply was simply that Trump has been falsely taking credit for job allocation changes that in most part were made even before he became a candidate. This was true in the case of Carrier and Sprint. 
J. Riddle Added Feb 3, 2017 - 3:05am
I wrote a much longer reply--there must be some character limit on comments. Ugh!
J. Riddle Added Feb 3, 2017 - 3:56am
Let's see if I can at least reconstruct some of the missing material...
Katzeff: "Oh and by the way, this travel ban is protecting ALL AMERICANS – including our Muslim citizens, as they are just as much in danger from terrorism as anyone else."
The reality: "...after sifting through databases, media reports, court documents, and other sources, Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, has arrived at a striking finding: Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015."
Katzeff: "...with the exception of Native Americans, every one of us is either an immigrant or a descendant of immigrants.  However the only difference Is that we are all here and immigrated LEGALLY.  When our ancestors came here, they didn’t sneak in – they came through Ellis Island and got documented."
The reality: The Ellis Island immigration station first opened for business in 1892. The first federal immigration law wasn't passed until 1882; the Ellis Island immigration station first opened for business 10 years later. Prior to this, people had been freely coming to these shores for the better part of 300 years. Naturalization law at the time, in fact, required people to have lived in the U.S. for a certain number of years before they could become citizens.
Katzeff: "Illegal immigrants literally cost this country (and hence the taxpayers) over $200 BILLION PER YEAR."
As with all of his claims, Katzeff offers no source for this. Some years ago, Lou Dobbs claimed a recent and "definitive" study had shown that illegal immigrants cost Americans $200 billion in depressed wages. Like much of what Dobbs says, this turned out to be false. There was no such study; he'd simply made it up. During the campaign, Trump insisted illegal immigration cost the U.S. $113 billion/year, a bit over half that Dobbs/Katzeff claim. His source for this turned out to be a racist nativist group and I'm sure it will come as a shock to everyone that the calim was false. Racist groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform--the org cited by Trump--or the Center for Immigration Studies make a regular practice of extravagant and entirely unsupportable claims in this vein.
The reality: "...immigrants contribute far more to government coffers than they use in social services"and "the truth is that undocumented immigrants contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits."
"Not to mention that there has in fact been a significant increase in criminal activity from illegals in recent years.  There are countless stories of illegals who have come here, murdered, were deported, and then snuck back in – only to murder again."
The reality: Immigrants are actually less likely than natives to commit crime. "No matter how researchers target="_blank">slice the data, though, the numbers show that immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans."
Katzeff: " turns out that our southern border also happens to be the primary crossing utilized by terrorists (e.g. from ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc.) to enter this country, given the current weaknesses of the border."
The reality: While a handful of people with some sort of "ties" to terrorist groups turned up at the Southern border many years ago, the number of ISIS or al Qaida terrorists known to have entered the U.S. by that route is zero.
Katzeff uses as his framing device the idea that liberals are facing "extinction," but while his own "president" flounders with historically poor favorability numbers, the most popular politici
J. Riddle Added Feb 3, 2017 - 3:57am
And that last part that was cut off:
Katzeff uses as his framing device the idea that liberals are facing "extinction," but while his own "president" flounders with historically poor favorability numbers, the most popular politician in the capitol--or at least the most popular one as of December--is Bernie Sanders, whose policies are wildly popular. I don't think they have to worry about "extinction" any time soon.
Bill H. Added Feb 3, 2017 - 12:23pm
It's appearing more and more that the possibility of Trump's impeachment may occur sooner than most people think. Seems that even members of his own party are beginning to abandon ship in droves.
The little known 25th amendment may be applicable immediately in Trump's case.
Greg Frehner Added Feb 3, 2017 - 4:14pm
Bill all I want to know is,,,, were you serious about finding Jesus again?  Because you and Riddle scare the bejesus out of the weakbeaters.  LMAO
Bill H. Added Feb 3, 2017 - 8:54pm
No, Greg. Actually I am not a fan of organized religion.
I have always had the belief that we are some alien child's science fair project.
Greg Frehner Added Feb 3, 2017 - 10:02pm
Interesting. Growing up in Utah I always feared who was really on display at the State Fair.   
Bill H. Added Feb 3, 2017 - 11:14pm
Greg - do a read on Papoose Lake. When I worked at a location in Nevada on some highly advanced and super top secret aerospace radar and countermeasures projects, we pretty much had unlimited access to many locations on the Nevada Test Site. Papoose Lake was off limits, and was tightly guarded by the range security force and many sensor systems. Even personnel that worked at Groom Lake (Area 51) were not allowed to stray close to Papoose Lake.
I won't state anything out here, but you can come to your own conclusions.
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 12:12am
Fantastic. Thank you.  
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 12:21am
An old employee of mine worked for EEG at Groom Lake for years but would never tell me much.  He felt he was being bugged 10 years after leaving.  The only thing he ever said was   I asked him if he ever worked on little green men,,, he replied softly,,,, "why do people think they are all green"
Bill H. Added Feb 4, 2017 - 1:36am
Now that most people are aware that the Groom Lake operation exists and the Government has admitted it, people who once worked out there can actually now admit it.
It was not that way back in the '80s and early '90s when I worked out there.
Ask you friend if he ever "flew Janet" or "cashed in script"
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 11:47am
I will
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 11:49am
BTW- This Papoose Lake research is truly fascinating.  
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 5:18pm
Are you familiar with Connor O'Ryan?
Greg Frehner Added Feb 4, 2017 - 6:28pm
My friend was not familiar with either but likely would not tell me even if he was.  He said he quit because he could no longer take coming home and not being able to tell his wife about his day.
S4 has become a bit of an obsession right now with me, I am very surprised I have never heard of it because of my interests in related issues.  I have a blanket over generalized ,theory about such things.  The universe is infinite with no end or beginning. So in my mind it is statistically impossible for there not to be countless other and more advanced life forms out there
In regard to our military, thats why I get somewhat of a kick out of all these boycotting liberals.  Just how much power do they think the President truly has in running the nation? There is a system in place that has real control and it has to be that way.  You cant give the secrets of the world to a potential 4 yr dude or dudess and set them loose at the end of their term on a "scouts honor I wont write a book titled "OMG Guess What I Saw"
Bill H. Added Feb 4, 2017 - 11:10pm
Not familiar with Connor O'Ryan.
I found out about the S4 site when I was taking a side road off of the road between Mercury and Groom Lake back in 1988. I was stopped by 2 Wakenhut government contractor security guards and told that I was approaching a closed "use of deadly force" area and to return to the main road (which I did without question). When I returned to our contractor compound later in the day, the boss asked "WTF were you doing on that road?" to which I replied that I was just taking some slack time between flyovers to check out some of the old mining camps that are scattered all over the NTS. He again reminded me that it was a deadly force area and later told me that "there are rumors that they are reverse engineering some alien crafts out there that came from several encounters outside of the US and there are scientists from all over the world working on them".
All I know is that having 4 automatic weapons pointed at me by guys in cammo, made me think that whatever was going on there was more black than what I was working on, and I am open enough to suspect something similar to what you now know.
Bill H. Added Feb 4, 2017 - 11:20pm
I just did a read on Connor O'Ryan.
Most interesting!

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