Racism: It's Not Just For Alt-Whites Anymore

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I just finished this article ranting how Muslims and Mexicans would be the end of Democracy.  This article wasn’t from some angry, Alt-White person, however.  Well, maybe not fully anyway.  The author’s last name was Chiang.


I was struck by the irony of his diatribe, considering the comments he made have been said nearly verbatim about almost any ethnic and/or religious group in the United States.  Including his own Asian ancestors.  Or my Irish ones.


I guess the author was never taught about the Chinese Exclusion Acts in the latter half of the 19th Century.  And he probably never read about the depiction of Irish immigrants as terrorists through much of that same time period, such as the cartoon below portraying Irish immigrants as bomb-wielding monkeys.


Later, similar fears would be attributed to German immigrants, then Italian.  And he seemed to forget that tensions between Muslims and the United States is not a new thing, but has actually been going on since the Revolutionary War when we lost the protection of the British Empire from North African Islamic pirates.



I will concede our immigration system needs a massive overhaul.  I also agree that, like many Presidents before him, Donald Trump is motivated by national security rather than racism in his very temporary freeze on immigration from areas known to be hostile to the United States.



However, I wrote this piece to point out another fallacy just as bad as the Alt-White narrative the Main Stream Media is trying to foist off on people.  The narrative boils down to angry racist white men were the only ones voting for Trump.  Never mind that mathematically there are not enough of that group of people to win a national election.  The narrative also proclaims only white men are racist, completely ignoring the hypocritical irony of that assertion.



The MSM seems hell-bent on the principle that only white, middle aged men group treat other ethnic and religious groups negatively.  Ultra-hard core feminists campaign for the idea that males of the species are no longer needed, as their only purpose is to continue the species and science can do that without them (a false premise, incidentally).  Some radical African Americans have decided to wage war on White policemen.  Asian Americans of different backgrounds are often worse to each other than “round-eyes” ever could be. 



I could make a hate list that goes on for pages, but the point is EVERY group has its bad apples who act out on prejudiced impulses.  If the MSM would look at that and try to fight the issue rather than fan the flames to sell papers and create click-bait, we could really come together as a nation. 



Sadly, I don’t see that happening in my lifetime.  Then again, there are people alive today who never thought the Civil Rights Act would pass.  Maybe my children and others will make a better world?  Hopefully, if enough of them keep fighting for equal treatment of one another, that goal will be achieved.


Shane Dean Added Feb 21, 2017 - 9:40pm
I have no problem with making sure everyone obeys the Constitution.  And again you skipped the main point to beat your personal, hate-filled drum.  Racism in any form is wrong, regardless of the source.  You are arguing about political ideology, which is not even what I was talking about.  Islam is also not a race, so again not what I was talking about.  But hey, thanks for reinforcing the Alt-White stereotype that I have to combat almost every day now.  Honestly, you call yourself a Christian yet you spout so much monstrous venom.  You need to go back and read Christ's words again, I think you may have missed some very important points.
Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 12:09am
Ryan, the more I read your posts and comments, I cannot help but think you are suffering from bad past psychotic drug episodes.  Honestly, half the time what you say doesn't make sense and the majority of your comments barely relate to articles or subsequent comments, if at all.  Could you please say something that makes sense?
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 2:39am
Shane..cultural bias is wrong, its been encouraged and allowed for too long. Immigrants come here and have suffered since the onset of this nation.  We as a people dont need to add to that, empathy is what we need.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 22, 2017 - 4:55am
Nice words Ryan. I like that you said "Truth is hate according to those who hate truth". Wasn't it you that accused me of being an anti semite for not believing the holocaust happened?
  re "Donald Trump is motivated by national security rather than racism in his very temporary freeze on immigration from areas known to be hostile to the United States.
  Those countries are the ones listed for destruction in the Plan For The New American Century. Not letting them in AND not destroying them would be a good idea.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 22, 2017 - 5:59am
Was the author an ex member of the Malysian Establishment ? (Mathius Chiang I think is his name - great books!!)
Bill Kamps Added Feb 22, 2017 - 7:25am
Ryan, I agree, not only do we not understand history, we get easily confused about the present.  How many articles have we seen about the executive order being a ban on Muslims, or a ban on immigration from countries that dont like us.  Neither is really true.
If Muslims were banned then we would ban immigrants from Indonesia which is the most populous Muslim country.
People should stop, and take a look at the list of seven countries.  The Obama admin identified these countries as a problem, not because their residents are Muslim, but because their governments dont function very well ( places like Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq), or because their government doesnt give us reliable information on their residents, like Iran.
In short immigrants from these countries are banned for the moment, because it is difficult to figure out if their passports, criminal records, work history, etc, are forged, incomplete, or accurate.  Does this inconvenience some law abiding people who wish to come to the US, yes of course it does.  The price of security sometimes is inconvenience, especially to those people who have no rights within the US.
People who arent permanent residents, and who dont have a visa, dont have any right to enter the US, and protesters who say we are violating those people's rights are just wrong.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 10:01am
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George N Romey Added Feb 22, 2017 - 10:05am
Not to mention the original ban was put into effect by the Obama administration.  Trump only added Syria.  Again the MSM lying their asses off.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 10:23am
"The Other Side", bravo.
Bill H. Added Feb 22, 2017 - 10:49am
I have always been convinced that racism is an expression of one's self issues of inferiority. Racism gives these people some kind of reassurance that they are in some way "superior" to those they despise. I believe it may be rooted early in life.
This behavior is sometimes noticed early in childhood, when young children act out in ways like practicing cruelty to animals or bullying younger kids.
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 11:31am
Bill.."protesters who say we are violating those people's rights are just wrong."  In what way?
I really dislike the current administrations (and followers)constant fallback and blame to Obama and his policies.  Like the Yemen raid "approved" by Obama and had to wait for a moonlit night.  That never happened.  Its just another issue to argue over, but just making a point on info and sides. Not why I responded.
Also it was a violation of "those peoples" rights as proven in court, while not admitted to publicly, the Trump team had a chance to argue the "merits" of their Executive Order with Jeff Sessions at the helm and declined to do so in the 9th circuit.
Obama never named those 7 countries, he did not shut them down as coming into the country. Do you know why? First he was a Constitutional Attorney, Second, he didnt create the status- he signed a budget with a rider attached.
There was a bill passed in Congress- HR 158 as a rider to the Ominus budget, that named 4 countries  with citizens that are DUAL nationals of (Iraq, Syria, Iran and Sudan), after San Bernadino, Congress needed to answer to the people. This passed in 2015.  BUT it did not bar them from entry, only that they MUST have 90 day visas moving forward( VWP- I know you know what this is).
NOW the Department of Homeland Security added Libya,  Somalia and Yemen  as limited under the VWP, making the 7.   Before the inauguration, "a U.S. Customs & Border Protection FAQ page showed that travel restrictions remained in place for those specific seven countries but also noted that those “restrictions do not bar travel to the United States”
This is more junk to debate..but that is the law and Homeland Security did create the last three, not for any other reason than to make sure people could be vetted for VWP.
With that said, if you are going to have a TEMPORARY BAN..you must BAN everyone that would be an immigrant, from all countries.  Trump likes specific blanket policy which is the problem for him. If your intention is to determine all immigration moving forward, which AS A PROTESTOR, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH....it must be done w/o any prejudice to a specific class of people.  If he continues to try to ban Muslims..it will be contested.  The countries where Muslims would come from are not in the ME, they are not the ones fighting, they are in other countries organizing or already here.  There is NO legal ground to base this on, in THE US...if you said you were banning travel from Saudi Arabia or the UAE, it could actually be argued in court, there is legal standing.  But he is not...
Our laws do not allow specific classes of people to be treated disparagingly and yet, here we are.
But people the hate has to end and until it does, our  Perceived Greatness, has gone by the wayside.  Its ok to be white and have privilege, its not ok to use that against others that are not, and that is what is happening.  Call it what you want..its prima facia, nothing more than hate. Im afraid below that far more.
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 11:35am
George..you are incorrect..see above.
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 11:37am
February 2016-"The Department of Homeland Security announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 (HR 158) with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.
The three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals … Individuals impacted will still be able to apply for a visa using the regular immigration process at our embassies or consulates. For those who need a U.S. visa for urgent business, medical, or humanitarian travel to the United States, U.S. embassies and consulates stand ready to provide visa interview appointments on an expedited basis. The new law does not ban travel to the United States, or admission into the United States, and the great majority of Visa Waiver Program travelers will not be affected."
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 11:52am
Since I know none of you will actually read this and CONTINUE to argue based on the merits of what you HEARD..here is the damn LAW..
"SEC. 3. Restriction on use of visa waiver program for aliens who travel to certain countries.

Section 217(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1187(a)), as amended by this Act, is further amended by adding at the end the following:

“(A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in subparagraphs (B) and (C)—
“(i) the alien has not been present, at any time on or after March 1, 2011—
“(I) in Iraq or Syria;"
There is a summary for the proposed and final bill if you want to read. 
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 12:17pm
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Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 1:07pm
Slade, you missed Coconut.  Brown outside, white inside.  Used by many non-whites.
WSUcram.  You seem to have forgotten Carter's block on Iran.  And many others by other Presidents.  I don't like Trump, but his executive order specifically targeted areas that have groups that want to cause us harm, and he is doing it for a very limited time to improve information gathering.  3 months is a short time in the overall scheme.  
If a car maker gets notice of issues, they do a recall.  This is sort of like that.  There have been problems with people from these nations, so there will be a TEMPORARY hold on their movements.
Also, you kind of missed the whole point of the irony of the Alt-WHite type narrative coming from someone whose ancestors were treated the same way he is advocating others be treated without any due process or real facts.  But go ahead and ignore what was actually talked about to spin your own narrative.  You are becoming the other side of Ryan's coin, skim reading then getting back on your soapbox.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 1:28pm
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George N Romey Added Feb 22, 2017 - 1:51pm
Kind of reminds me of the episode on All In The Family in which Archie and George Jefferson conspire to keep a young Puerto Rican couple from moving into the neighborhood.
Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 2:50pm
You hit it on the head, George.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 2:57pm
And now the whole neighborhood is Puerto Rican.
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 4:47pm
No , I didnt miss your point...I have commented on that, multiple times recently.  Irish immigration, German immigration, Italian immigration. I just wrote about it, 5 points..the immigrants drafted for war, not even able to speak english or African Americans that werent even a whole person.  PEOPLE ARE NOT CARS!

Come on that was a shitty analogy.
I know you guys feel put upon, as a woman..I have dealt with that for years.  But stop whining and go out to change things you dont like.
Archie Bunker really? no other defense?  It was a sarcastic show, no literal meaning except to shove bigotry and sexism down the throat of white america.  Then Black America... so people could laugh at their own ignorance.   My sister and I used to laugh at my Dad, who loved Archie and thought Carroll O'Conner should be enshrined somewhere.  If he only knew...
Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 5:23pm
I was not comparing people to cars, I was comparing the immigration process to car manufacturing, which is wholly different.
You also apparently missed the point of Archie Bunker.  It was purposefully sexist and racist to show just how dumb those things are.  That was why George brought it up.  Did you miss the irony of two people who don't really like each other because their ethnicity banding together to go after someone else because of theirs?  Just like in West Side Story.
And stop whining?  Really?  I have said several times I chose Johnson hoping he would get enough votes to get equal funding for his party like the two main parties.  I have related several times about volunteer work and other things I do that others whine about needing done.  YOU are the one who sounds like they are whining.
You really ARE becoming the other side of Ryan's coin.  You are so enamored of your narrative you don't even see when it doesn't apply to the subject at hand.  
George N Romey Added Feb 22, 2017 - 5:24pm
Jeanne racism is a complicated issue and too many liberal make it solely a white against black issue.  Have you ever heard very well to do blacks talk about poor blacks?  They are as ignorant as white racists.  I'd put Obama in that group.  He grew up in Hawaii and attended the best of schools.  He has had a very charmed life indeed.
We have liberals that want to throw token hand outs to the poor, including the white poor, but never a hand up.  Through my four years of unemployment and underemployment I've never wanted a hand out, I wanted an opportunity again.  I now know how our system enslaves people and holds them back.  And its gotten worse as our upper middle and middle classes have been destroyed by vulture and predatory capitalism.  How can we ever expect to lift up the disadvantaged when everyday they have more and more company to share their misery?
We are fast moving towards a two class society.  I've been fortunate enough to have traveled the world to know that two class societies by nature breed hate.  And that is what is happening now in this country.  Archie Bunker is quaint compared to today's toxic environment. 
Dino Manalis Added Feb 22, 2017 - 5:31pm
We shouldn't dwell on racism, we should focus on positives and common concerns, regardless of race!
Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 5:33pm
Thank you, Dino.  I have been TRYING to say that, but agendas keep derailing that topic.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 6:15pm
Yeah, the best way to not talk about race is to write an article talking about race.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 22, 2017 - 6:15pm
The whole idea of mixing races is just insane and there are game changing reasons:
(1) Geography. Geography plays an incredibly important role in civilization. Why did the N American Natives and Egyptians not have the wheel ? Why is their religion based on authoritarianism?
(2) Diet. I think it was Billy who pointed out real and consequential differences in biology.
  Fried chicken and watermelon do not suit my taste. I hate Indian food. I eat what my parents and grandparents ate. So should everyone else, your gut is made that way.
(3) Laws. Most people will love Islam until they get enough of them over here to put us infidels down for good. The ultimate coup in the history of propaganda is to have a nation of infidels import a bunch of Muslims (that and the holohoax).
(4) Nature. People of different races naturally stick together. In schools you see groups of orientals, groups of blacks, etc. Everybody likes it better that way.
Leroy Added Feb 22, 2017 - 6:17pm
Congress gave the president broad powers over who enters the US.  The president "may by proclamation and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens and any class of aliens as immigrants or non-immigrants".  He pretty much can do whatever he wants and the Supreme Court has generally agreed.
It was later modified with this language:
"No person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence."
It extends only to the person.  If you are from certain countries, for example, you can come to the US without a visa.  If you want to come from China, for example, you will be discriminated against based on your race, sex, nationality, place of birth, and place of residence.  I know firsthand.  Having said that, the law basically applies.  Immigration simply assesses whether or not you are likely to return at the end of your stay or whether you will remain illegally.
Illegal immigrants have no rights in the US beyond those certain inalienable rights set forth in the Declaration of Independence.
Billy Roper Added Feb 22, 2017 - 6:18pm
For those who are new to the idea of human biodiversity:
wsucram15 Added Feb 22, 2017 - 8:48pm
George yes I have and I am as forward with them as I am with you guys.  I try to be polite most of the time, I really do...
I dont believe in racism..its a word people use to describe treating human beings as less than and somehow its acceptable because.... shhhh...."hes a racist".  (just an example)
People do all kinds of horrific things to other human beings in order to feel superior, get their jollys off ..whatever.  Racism is a WORD, it is the actions taken in the name of that word..that give it such a powerful meaning. This I have seen up close and personal.  Unfortunately.
Hate is the right word..and hate is ignorance and lack of respect of self. It has to come from within in order to project outward...just like love.  BTW..love is much easier.
Shane.. this is my last comment to you. If I offended you let me know, you did offend me a tad (it might have just been how you worded it though).   I was defending myself and "liberals" both from your article and other comments.  Also correcting where those 7 countries came from...sorry.  Genuinely. I dont come on here to stress on you, but I wont take any crap either. It is what it is. 
Shane Dean Added Feb 22, 2017 - 10:25pm
WSU/Jean.  I really don't know what you think you needed to defend.  My premise was that, despite a lot of media hoopla, white middle aged males are not the only ones acting out in racist tendencies.  Unless you think that only white males act out in racist tendencies toward the rest of the world and all non-whites and females behave themselves, you actually have nothing to defend.  I only responded when you decided to get on something not related to what I wrote, as if you felt my point was not valid.  So I guess I am asking you to clarify: do you think only white men act with racially motivated behavior?  If you do, please see Slade's list of how other groups behave.  If you don't, then what were you trying to defend?
Mircea Negres Added Feb 23, 2017 - 3:06am
Racism, sexism, xenophobia and other socially encouraged mental aberrations are not the exclusive preserve of white males like media and the willfully blind(ing) so-called social activists would have us think.  Just google images related to Emmanuel Sithole, then you will find out what happens to immigrants in South Africa and who does it to them.
Billy Roper Added Feb 23, 2017 - 9:03am
Students of mixed race ancestry suffer more health problems:
Stone-Eater Added Feb 23, 2017 - 2:17pm
I just wrote my last article on that subject. I'm fed up with this shit. In Africa, Malians are racist about Ivorians, Cameroonians against people from Chad etc.
Not stoppable. I give up on that and follow my own path. I'm white, my wife is black, my kids are whatever, and all are bright, tolerant persons.
Crooks are not race-related. They are character-related. The ones on top who fuck up the world are a composition of all races, and THEY themselves don't care about race. They only see that their character fits.
Racism is for the common Joe to stir unrest....
George N Romey Added Feb 23, 2017 - 2:17pm
Unfortunately power loves to gin up fear and fear leads to hate.  Its how W won another term in 2004, be very afraid.  We are taught to fear and hate "the other."  We have since the dawn of time.  Now we have never ending social media to gin up fear and hate.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 23, 2017 - 2:35pm
Shane Dean Added Feb 23, 2017 - 6:04pm
Thank you for your keen insight, Stone.  I wish, like you, the whole mess would go away and the fingerpointing would stop.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 23, 2017 - 6:13pm
It won't stop. Our species is not evolved enough. Let's wait for Homo Intellectus ;-)
Shane Dean Added Feb 23, 2017 - 6:17pm
Yeah, Stone, you are probably right.  Still trying to be optimistic for my children's future if nothing else.
Shane Dean Added Feb 23, 2017 - 6:18pm
Oops, your kids too, Stone!
Ari Silverstein Added Feb 24, 2017 - 8:20am
To be sure, there are a lot of racists in our midst (past and present) and one doesn’t need to be a white male to be racist.  However, as it relates to immigration and terrorism, I think society has non-racist cause to be concerned about Muslims.  There is simply too much evidence that Muslims have and will kill in the name of their religion.  There is no historical comparison between any other ethnic or religious group and Muslims.  Muslims top the chart in terms of the propensity to harm others. 
As to what to do about it, outside of stronger surveillance of Muslim enclaves, nothing should be done to take away the liberties of the ones already here.  As to the ones trying to get here, let’s be compassionate and highly cautious. 
Billy Roper Added Feb 24, 2017 - 8:47am
Few people are as racist as Ari's people. They even have their very own racially based state!
Stone-Eater Added Feb 24, 2017 - 11:05am
Your collection is a smash. May I add two:
Toubab - West African for a French guy - colonist. Negative.
Nasara - West African for all other whites. Neutral.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 24, 2017 - 11:19am
I think society has non-racist cause to be concerned about Muslims.
I have to agree on that. I see it on a daily basis. I know of a Swiss girl who had a Tunisian boyfriend. He drank alcohol, seemed perfectly integrated, and soon after marriage he started to tell the girl to dress more modestly, re-baptised her from Laura to Leila, stopped drinking and started to press her to convert to Islam.
And it's not the first such case I've heard. They have a kid, and the girl is in an extremely uncomfortable situation.
We have a lot of such sleepers here, and a customer of mine, an Eritrean woman refugee gets followed regularly by other refugees from her country, because she was politically active in her country and fled because she was threatened.
There are networks of people here who observe refugees for their lifestyle, connections and eventual anti-government actions abroad. Turks, Tunisians, Ethiopians, Eritreans and Sri Lankans. They all are well organized.
The regular Swiss has no idea of that.
BTW: However, Jews are about the same. Marrying a Jewish girl being a non-Jew ? No way. Muslims AND Jews are both pretty tight and selective about their religion. The only difference is that Muslims outnumber Jews by far...
Stone-Eater Added Feb 24, 2017 - 11:22am
BTW: My wife is Muslim and I pretended to be Muslim to be able to marry her (she knew of course). You can see me pray and wouldn't even figure I'm not a Muslim LOL
Doug Plumb Added Feb 25, 2017 - 10:33am
Freedom of religion is just pain bad doctrine. People assume its good because it contains the word "freedom" rather than "government". But we have a very bad idea of government, because ours is very bad. Also freedom of association is another bad idea. Kant, in Metaphysics Of Morals warns carefully about secret societies and freedom of association.
 Our society could be non racist and simply not allow synagogues and mosques in the country. This would be the only way of preserving the English Jurisprudence that protects freedom itself. Its basis in reason rather than authority prevents it from being protected by authority.
Shane Dean Added Feb 27, 2017 - 1:41am
So, Doug, you want to just toss the Constitution out then?

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