Why Should Women Bother Showing Up?

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In the picture above, Susan B. Anthony is knocked to the ground and beaten by police officers.  Her heinous crime?  Trying to vote.  Women have fortunately come far since then, yet there is still a lot of inequality, especially in underdeveloped nations.  Sadly, a new movement makes me wonder what modern feminists are thinking.

 

March 8 is supposed to be the #DayWithoutAWoman.  I get the impetus behind it, showing the world how much women contribute to the world by withholding their participation in it for a day, and then measuring after how much impact just one day had.  The idea being how much women contribute should impress policy makers enough to affect change.  The whole thing just seems pointless to me.

 

I have written several articles in support of women's causes.  Being raised by a single mother in the early 70s, I had a first hand view of how hard it can be, especially with my father largely absent.  I also saw my mother rise up and become a very successful computer programmer, retiring quite nicely with no man's help.  Even when she remarried, her earnings far outstripped my stepfather.  He was a hard worker, but my mother was simply more qualified.

 

My mother did not achieve all this by filing lawsuits or in any other way forcing herself in to the profession she chose.  She just worked her butt off every single day.  To get good grades, to get high scores, to get a good job and be awesome at it.  Once recently she told me she knew she would never make as much as men, but if she worked really hard and did well, she would make things better for the next generation.

 

So, you will have to pardon me if I don't see the value in a bunch of people NOT SHOWING UP.  My mother almost never took a sick day.  The only I can remember is when she gave birth to my sister and when she had carpal tunnel surgery.  In this post, the author's "protest" is going to take this form: "I will spend Wednesday pampering my body a little, feeding my mind quite a bit, and hoping that by the time my daughter is old as I am now 'woman's work' will just be 'work', and a woman's place will be defined only by her own goals, talents, and preferences."

 

Seriously, this author is going to right the wrongs of the world by giving herself a home spa day and thinking deep thoughts?  I feel this is a slap in the face to women everywhere who actually make a difference.  And this woman is not even going to hold a sign and show actual protest.  She can't even muster the effort for that.  How is a person supposed to take this seriously?  While women in some countries are being forced to marry at 9 or ten, or are being told they have had enough schooling to manage the house, this woman thinks she is making a difference by taking a "me" day.

 

I have the utmost respect for women, being raised by one of the hardest working women and being married to another, and knowing or admiring many others who have made a real impact in this planet.  And I will tell you right now, sitting at home will get NOTHING done.  Going out into the world, challenging the mindsets by proving them wrong, THAT will change the world.  This woman, and so many like her who will probably do the same, are fooling themselves and insulting REAL movers and shakers like my mother.

 

Well, enjoy your day off, those that can.  While you are thinking your deep thoughts, many other women who have no choice will be out actually getting things done.  Just as they always have.

 

Shane Dean is a professional author and editor as well as an advocate for many worthy causes.

 

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Comments

Mircea Negres Added Mar 8, 2017 - 2:22am
Good one, Shane. Yup, if you want to change the world, YOU have to become the change you want to see in it, and that means getting off your bum and DOING something.
wsucram15 Added Mar 8, 2017 - 3:38am
I wont be marching in this one..for a change.  But I also wont be shopping or doing anything else in support.  I was going to work in my shop tomorrow. Nope.
Well maybe I will go to DC..cant stand to be bored.
 
Good article Shane, as always.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 8, 2017 - 4:08am
And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
If we don't we're gonna blow a 50-amp fuse"
You can't always get what you want
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 8, 2017 - 4:09am
I saw her today at the reception
In her glass was a bleeding man
She was practiced at the art of deception
Well I could tell by her blood-stained hands
You can't always get what you want
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 8, 2017 - 5:47am
American woman, stay away from me
American woman, mama, let me be
Don't come a-hangin' around my door
I don't wanna see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin' old with you
Now woman, I said stay away
American woman, listen what I say
Nancy Rexford Added Mar 8, 2017 - 7:20am
Shawn I see the day of the woman not showing up as the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of
Do women understand that they are supposed to be equal they have been paid equally for the most part they are in control of their rights.
 
A  fool trick like this shows just how little understanding the new generation of women have about how far women have come since they were the property of first their father, then their spouse and in times past their eldest male child  should the husband die.
 
What is next a hissy fit by men to show how important their contribution is by walking out of their jobs?
 
I was right when I wrote that Feminism is dead as an action when some thing like this is considered laudable but the news media!
 
 
Leroy Added Mar 8, 2017 - 7:42am
It's International Women's Day.  I like that better.   It's the difference between bitching and complaining and appreciating women.  Many Chinese companies will give the women a day off or maybe a half day off.  They also celebration Children's Day.  But, there is no celebration for men.  Maybe we should scrap them all and have an Everybody Matters Day.  Better yet, get rid of all these silly celebrations.
Dino Manalis Added Mar 8, 2017 - 8:09am
Trump should take the opportunity and invite representatives of women's and civil rights groups to the White House.
Louis E Weeks Added Mar 8, 2017 - 11:30am
Women have endured serious turmoil and strife to get where they are today but most do not even understand this.  The thing that shocks me a little is how they will hold a event or protest meant for women's issues that should go beyond any political beliefs and instead turn into the radical left ranting and frothing at the mouth and almost zero actual women's issues being discussed.
 
I also grew up with a strong mother, one who could stop you in your tracks with a look and not saying a word.  I remember going on field trips with other kids and there would be a disruptive child and my mother would give them a look and instantly they would behave, lol.  It is not that my mother was violent, she certainly had that potential if you forced her to-, but it was more like a powerful aura she had where anyone who came into her orbit was in some part controlled by her.
 
I have never seen what I would consider a "weak woman" as the Liberals portray as needing Government and men to protect them and shield them, every Women I have known and been close to was stronger than most men and kept everyone in line, lol.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:22pm
Thanks for the highly appropriate flashback songs, Jeffry.  Definitely on point.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:25pm
Nancy, thank you for calling this out for what it is: a fool trick.  Any time things like this have come up in the past, my mom would make a disgusted noise and say something like "Instead of standing there screaming why don't they go DO something?"  
While I think women still don't get a fair shake, especially in some countries, this kind of thing will keep those they are trying to stir to action from doing so, feeling women are silly doing frivolous things like this.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:25pm
Appreciate the kind words, Mircea
Donna Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:27pm
I will be working, as taking a day off is not only not affordable, but would cost me my job. Also i see no reason behind this particular event. I would never not make dinner for my gent, because of this, it is getting so out of hand..What did he do to deserve that?? Also i agree with Shane, strong women do not need to be taking care of, at times yes, but do we all not? 
Good article..
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:28pm
Leroy, that would be so awesome!  Everybody Matters day!  Dr. King's dream realized!  A day where we could get together, celebrate our unity as humans, and also glory in all the wonderful ways we are different!  Foods from all over, music from all over, art from all over!  Man, I want to make this happen now!
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:30pm
Dino, Trump has been inviting lots of different reps of marginalized groups, but many are refusing the invite rather than open a dialogue to accomplish things.  Funny how during the last administration the left demanded coexistence and cooperation, but now that they are not dictating terms they want to take their ball and go home.  That is how strident childish events like this start, unfortunately.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:34pm
Louis, thank you for the great story!  I remember my grandmother had a similar effect on people, even adults!  She was always a really placid person, but that look!  And God forbid she ever got mad enough to call out "Say now, that's enough!'
wsucram15 Added Mar 8, 2017 - 12:54pm
Louis..to what event are you referring, which protest?  I have been at several recently including the womans march in DC.  That march was about woman and the right of choice for most of the groups there.
People made it about other things, there were 103 organizing groups there.  However, none of them were there against Trump personally only his agenda towards women.    I cant answer to a couple of the speakers because the crowd was too large for me to see them and I didnt agree with what they said once I did see it later.
 
Now I was at the inauguration, to support the President and marched with Trump supporters, even though I did not agree, we all talked, where were you?  In truth, the only things people know about that march (that did not march) is the media and I am sorry but you are misinformed about THAT march. 
 
Now in subsequent protests, yes..Trump and his agenda have been protested because in spite of the belief of some, he is just wrong in execution.  I just think it is inexperience in politics, but the damage is ridiculous and his promises to his base affects EVERYONE.  A fact he fails to consider and makes the GOP very nervous. (I have seen some of the town hall gatherings personally).  I have friends, like to travel and I made interesting documentation of the upheaval of our society, firsthand, video, pictures and in written word.  This is fascinating to see w/o the media and from peoples perspective, no matter who is doing the talking.
 
To those people that elected him, you cannot maintain the constitution and run it like a business. The Constitution is not a mission statement or a set of guidelines, its the law.   I also see something else happening with that and Im not sure quite how that will play out yet, but even Trump voters wont like American Foundation being compromised.  Actually the constitution and healthcare are my only two bullet points.  I dont like much, like with MANY presidents, but there is always compromise.
 
From what I see, the battle ground between both sides is the law, in speaking with people like I have.  I see wrong on both sides and also the ideals that could make things work. 
 
So instead of attacking each side for what you heard..why dont you ask and discuss?  It has worked in the past.  Ive tried and aside from a few people that just want to use Trump as an excuse to do whatever they want, most people are willing to work towards a common goal.  They want to be able to live in America with jobs and feel safe.
 
 
 
 
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 1:26pm
Jeanne, great points.  I would like to note, however, a lot of groups that Trump has invited to meet with at since his election have flat out refused to even talk to him.  I get that many are not happy with his election; I voted for Gary Johnson so am not very happy myself.
 
But this open dialogue you ask for needs to go both ways.  Instead of just screaming "NOT MY PRESIDENT" there needs to be meetings and discussions.  I have read so many articles where protesters against Trump didn't even vote in this election!  They seem to think if they yell loud enough, they will get what they want.  Our microcosm of almost losing this site shows that just doesn't work.
 
Again, I did not vote for Trump, but if no one wants to even try to talk with him and compromise, he is just going to go along with whatever agenda he sees fit because he has no reason not to.
 
I will go back to the example of my mother.  She had a successful career in computers because she showed up and proved all her detractors wrong.  She engaged the problem and beat it.  If no one from the opposition is going to talk to Trump, why would he bother to compromise?  His opposition is hiding in "safe spaces" and sucking their thumbs.
 
Rosa Parks affected change because she got in the face of the problem and refused to back down.  Madame Curie revolutionized science by doing the same.  Oprah Winfrey blew all her detractors away.  Because they showed up and faced their opposition.
 
If people want to sway Trump, they need to engage him, not spurn him.  During the last administration, there were countless complaints that the opposition did not want to work with President Obama.  Well, now the tables are turned, so let's see that famous coexistence in action, not just words.
wsucram15 Added Mar 8, 2017 - 3:00pm
Shane..I would  talk to the President, actually I have written him twice.  Just like Obama, who btw, did reply and I worked with his staff.  I got my last letter from Obama in January thanking me for my cooperation.  I also worked with the Bush administration on a few issues, and I took pride in those issues.  I didnt agree with everything either of those Presidents did, but on some issues they were outstanding in protecting the rights of Americans.
 
I work with a bunch of groups involved with women and I feel that some might also listen to Trump if he would slow down for a hot minute and listen to someone outside his base.   But only because I kinda feel like he has been misinformed about THIS side of things and is very far removed.   I dont expect him to agree with VERY liberal ideas, but he needs to work for all Americans and the only way to do that is compromise.   ALL his people (base) need to let him know that its ok to work with people as long as he keeps his promises.  But to be honest, as mad as Trump supporters are or have been, I'm telling you, I have not seen anything like this in almost 40 years of protesting.  (not just what you see on tv either) People are pissed, not even about CLinton (although some still hang onto that -not gonna lie). But its more about being dismissed by the minority vote AND Trump himself.  The more he does this along with the GOP, the worse it will get. There are very key things going on on both sides and some of it, I just dont agree with overall.  So I find right now, the thing I like the least is politics and BOTH side are so polarized. 
 
I cannot argue with some of Trumps ideas because I am conservative in some ways and do not disagree with exporting the criminal element out of the country. In fact, at one point (some time ago), I felt we should completely shut down the borders going in or out unless for business.  WHICH I HAVE ARGUED WITH LIBERALS FOR YEARS.  So we can access the number of people here illegally on visas and get them out.   I do disagree with specific countries, you either shut the borders down or you dont.  I understand his rationale, but its still discriminatory.  ITs all or none and I see the enormous affect a closure would have.  So I feel for him. on this matter.  I used to agree with closing off the border as well, but thats not the problem and we cannot solve it by dumping people in Mexico that might not even belong there.   So just this issue is going to be VERY expensive to clean up.  We need more people and electronic surveillance along that border, not a wall.  But I agree with his thought process.
Also cutting the coast guard budget is stupid, they work immigration and drug control, I have a cousin in DEA and he is wondering what drugs Trump is taking in talking the cuts he is proposing and in this wall (he has lived and worked in Texas most of his life).  This is a much larger issue than building a wall and stopping Muslims for 90 days. It just is...but this will satisfy the base, so this is what he will do. 
 
I even agree with a renegotiation of NAFTA, but with all three nations, the Canadian side is far more difficult than the Mexican side. Although both are difficult even with NAFTA.   Also I protested against the TPP, but for reasons far beyond that of Trump.
I dont spurn him but I am also not going to give him a pass on stupid stuff like random tweets (seriously he is a grown man) Put on your big boy pants, he has been criticized and hounded by the press and investigators his entire life...move on. Now Shane you are from NY..you know this.  I was only there for about 3 months a year and I heard plenty enough it wasnt hard to find the old data.
 
I want to see WHY he feels as he does. Is is partisan or really just because he is older and not following or understanding the rest of America. While some of you feel  he "gets it", there are millions upon millions that disagree. They didnt vote last time, I dont think they will make that mistake again.
 
So how can he relax, he made extraordinary promises which are going to cause even bigger issues as this goes on.  We have issues of major concern coming right to our front door and an internal struggle that is NOT GONNA END until BOTH sides stop.  Which is happening because of what I believe (or hope) are unintentional actions on his part. 
I actually (sort of ) feel sorry for him (except for his tweets). Im sure they are more of the (shiny coin theory) marketing strategy he uses, but the campaign is over...and divisiveness has to stop.
 
Janie Smith Added Mar 8, 2017 - 4:38pm
Shane, nice article.  Sounds like your mother and my mother had a lot in common. :-)
Dr. Rupert Green Added Mar 8, 2017 - 5:48pm
"While women in some countries are being forced to marry at 9 or ten, or are being told they have had enough schooling to manage the house, this woman thinks she is making a difference by taking a "me" day."
 
With shit like the above happening and men from other nations where such shit happens wanting to come to America and pontificate piety, you can understand why Trump wants to keep such child fuckers out of here.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 6:13pm
Jeanne, I hope you didn't think I meant you were not trying to be involved; I have read many of your exploits and think it is great you take such an active role in things.  I was referring to multiple times Trump has asked people to meet for an open dialogue and they refuse to even talk with him.
 
Here is an example:
http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-trump-orlando-saint-andrew-catholic-family-20170302-story.html
 
I know there are more but the search engines all seemed primed to only talk about those that Trump won't speak with.  Point being, if there is no dialogue between differing groups, there is no way to work towards an equitable solution.  There are plenty of people who I disagree with, but I relish the chance to speak with them and perhaps work out some common ground.
 
All it takes is a few moments to hear each other, but so many are not willing to do that.  They didn't get there way so they are going to scream and yell and destroy things and not make one thing improve for the things they care about.
wsucram15 Added Mar 8, 2017 - 7:03pm
Unfortunately, due to the negative press and things he actually did say specifically about women, then I guess supporting or not rejecting endorsements by  Supremacist groups, (believe me I have heard this plenty and so much more) I see her point.  But thats not the way to solve so I agree.  Like I am talking to you now, I actually talk to protestors.  But on some issues they are not going to bend until forced and maybe not even then.
Here is the hilarious part, to me anyway..much like Trump supporters, the "liberals" want significant change. They want politics to change.  They are no longer willing to settle.
The changes are similar and different. There has to be a meeting of the minds.  Because ALL of you want change.
 
I really see it like this, people are driven by emotion and some love Trump and some literally hate him.  I have talked to both, its as bad on one side as on the other.   Its really difficult to defend him, even with facts, it really is. Like him, I can rationalize almost anything, marketing 101.  But he just doesnt let up, I mean he really doesnt.   I am almost convinced at this point, its intentional which makes people absolutely hate him.  I mean the tweet on Obama was almost a death march for him with any Obama supporters.  My phone lit up Saturday.  His approval rating overall is 40% the lowest of any candidate since Eisenhower. However his supporters love him.  But on the upside, he is WAY more popular than Congress.
 
Guys its a random poll...his numbers overall for February dropped 4% from January.  But like everything that too will change.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 7:16pm
Most effective Presidents in history are not actually as popular when they are affecting change.  I can remember Reagan getting bad mouthed in all kind of media outlets, and all kinds of angry numbers...then he had a massive landslide victory because the media narrative didn't match actual voter sentiment.
 
Thank you for ceding that dialogue actually needs to happen for people to move forward.
 
I just find it sad that this post had to get hijacked and turned into another vehicle about how Trump is so awful.  I tried to laud women, REAL women, who have made positive strides and real sacrifices, and instead we are talking about how Donald Trump is not a nice person.  I am on your side on a lot of issues, Jeanne, but you act like I am pushing against you.  It is really frustrating.  I feel like you aren't even reading what I am trying to say.
Louis E Weeks Added Mar 8, 2017 - 8:27pm
wsucram15,
 
For example the Washington DC protests that had a women's group that was pro-life as one of the sponsors and the radical left exploded and demanded they be removed from the sponsor list and that is what happened.
 
I am talking about several big name speakers who spent all their time bashing Trump and not speaking much on women's issues.
 
I am talking about who paid for those pussy hats.
 
You can claim that individual women may have been there with something else in their heart and I agree with that, but what they had in mind and what really happened are two completely different things.
 
What is the point of the protest?  To get the word out right?  All of you Women who showed up already agree with each other, all that really matters is what the rest  of America got from the protests and what they got was a whole lot of hard left radical Liberal attacks on Trump.
 
And where was I?  I was working that day catching up on a bathroom remodel we were a little behind schedule on.  I have work and family and customers who depend on me, not time to travel the world protesting.
 
 
And what exactly do you think protesting will do?  This constant stream of protesting and rioting and complaining and personal attacks on Trump is not helping you, it is all just noise.  There is never a day without some outrage or another from the far left, normal Americans are tuning you out.
 
 
 
And I am curious about something, being as you are saying you are a more reasonable member of the protesting masses what exact set of policies is Trump promising to enact you believe is directly attacking Women's rights as you claim?
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 8:59pm
Thank you for weighing in, Louis.  You bring up some good thoughts.  I have already mentioned the things my mom did to help.  I would like to touch on another point that seems to be getting ignored in the Trump bash fest.
 
Hillary Clinton's only real claim the vast majority of her campaign is that we hadn't had a woman President yet.
 
I don't think someone who defended rapists and personally threatened some women who accused her husband of sexual misconduct is someone who should carry women's banner to the Oval Office.  I also don't think that a woman who would not even be heard of if not for her serial rapist husband is a good representative of women.  A woman President should be someone who rose of their own accord, such as Senator Elizabeth Warren.  Perhaps a little too liberal for my tastes overall, but still level headed enough I would have voted for her over Trump AND Gary Johnson.  Not because she is a woman, because she is a good representation of what women can do on their own power instead of needing a man (especially a morally bankrupt man).
 
I see so much harping on what Trump has said, yet for some reason Hillary Clinton gets a free pass on things she has actually done.  She has been horrible to women, not just in word but action.  She has demonstrated she is horribly racist, branding black men as super predators and supporting stop and frisk policies before it was not fashionable to do so.  She has, through willful neglect, gotten Americans killed, then passed it off as no big deal.  And if you want to bring up Russia, she was calling for the Russian Reset as they were invading Ukraine.  
 
Yes, Trump is objectionable in his speech.  He is from New York and has that chip on his shoulder.  But he is also the President, so unless groups actually try to work with him, especially if he invites them to do so, they should open the dialogue.  Just like people were demanding the right work with Obama (and you were a racist if you didn't), the left needs to work WITH Trump if they want something.
Arulnathan John Added Mar 8, 2017 - 9:03pm
Thanks for your post Shane. My mother, grandmothers, sister and cousins were and are among the most feminist women I know (long before the term feminism came to be known in Asia).
They take no crap from any woman or man, and have managed to live fulfilled lives in Singapore, Malaysia., the US and Canada. And they would never entertain the notion of not showing up when they were needed. Their view is just  this: Stand up and be counted and do the work you are are meant to do. And when needed, fight for what is right.
My father, brother-in-law, grandfathers, and male cousins all understand that and have no issues whatsoever. 
In my view. not showing up can easily backfire and send the wrong message, especially in these misguided times. Believe in a cause? Stand up for it and give your best to the cause if you can, when you can, and with all you can. Thanks again for your post Shane!
Jenifer Frost Added Mar 8, 2017 - 9:24pm
Interesting post, although I am working today, still, late. I have a project deadline for Friday, end of business. Sometimes that's just how the world turns. 
Louis E Weeks Added Mar 8, 2017 - 10:23pm
Shane,
Me and my now 19 year old daughter have had many discussions about girls and women in society and with the last election we had a lot of conversations concerning Hillary and how she seemed as a role model to her.
 
So I spent a lot of time explaining the many things in the media about Bill and Hillary and the many issues they had over the years and it was my daughter who said to me that one thing she felt concern over was how Hillary was either a doormat who let her husband do anything he wanted while she turned a blind eye, or she was an enabler knowingly letting him abuse women for her own future political benefit.
 
Either way, she saw Hillary as weak or corrupt, neither being a good role model for her.
 
And as far as warren is concerned, didn't she claim American Indian heritage falsely to get ahead?  I seem to remember that claim against her, and an offer to give her a free DNA test to check as most Native Americans use to prove heritage and Warren refused.  If she lied then she is not a good role model either.
 
 
Yes, Trump has an out of control mouth, but so far nothing of substance has been shown to prove he has ever done anything wrong.  In fact Bill Clinton settles a rape case for almost  a million dollars and is guilty or Perjury, a felony crime all normal Americans go to jail for but slick Willie got a free pass.
Shane Dean Added Mar 8, 2017 - 11:13pm
I did not know that about Elizabeth Warren, and frankly was just using her as an example.  There are other women, Democrat and Republican, who are admirable and would be great Presidents who happen to also be women.
 
I guess that is my biggest contention with all this.  Some women will eventually be the first female in the Oval Office.  But gender is not a qualification, but a biological condition.  Any President, man or woman, needs to be more than just a historical checkmark which, frankly, I think Barak Obama was.  The Democratic elite thought they could run on that alone again, but it backfired.  Hopefully they will get wise and put forth a viable female candidate.  And hopefully Republicans as well.  I just hope I live to see the day when all the "firsts" are done and we can just elect a person and not a caricature to satisfy history.
 
Thank you also for being frank with your daughter. I cannot imagine those were easy talks, Louis.
Louis E Weeks Added Mar 9, 2017 - 8:17am
Well no I agree with the idea of a Woman being President but my point about warren is all of their women are selling their souls to get power, look at Pelosi, there is one horrible woman there, her fake tears to the cameras while Bush was President turned my stomach, trying to compare those times to forced segregation and such was so disingenuous and just proves Democrats will do any underhanded thing to get power.
 
No those discussions were not easy with my daughter, I wanted to be more critical of Hillary but decided to paint Hillary as good as possible and just stick to the facts as I knew them and we Googled a lot of news reports to supplement our discussions  because I wanted my daughter to make up her own mind.
 
But after I have spend all of her short life telling her to never define her existence by what man she married or ever letting anyone disrespect her or hurt her without taking action to stop it, I was pretty sure how she would view Hillary Clinton in that context.
 
 
 
Obama was something different.  His back story and speaking skills combined with a truly believable empathy he expressed made him popular as a President even though most people did not necessarily like his performance in the job.  This is why Obama maintained his favorable ratings but at the same time  Democrats lost over 1,000 elections while he was President.  They tried to emulate his politic not understanding his politics had nothing to do with his popularity.
Shane Dean Added Mar 9, 2017 - 11:26am
I thought President Obama was a nice man and he truly wanted to do good, but he was so beholden to so many conflicting interests in the party he never really made any impact himself. I remember Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice being call "House Negroes" by Harry Belafonte.  I feel like Obama was like that for the Democratic party, a puppet for their agenda.
Louis E Weeks Added Mar 9, 2017 - 11:43am
Obama was the definition of a career, professional politician, there have been many stories of his choice to run for President then before he had an actual record to hold against him, he literally won the Presidency on his promise of "hope and change" and his personality.
 
And let me admit to something, I wanted to believe him too.  I am no political pushover, I am one who never mixes emotions into political discussions and elections in general but no matter how hard my head was screaming at me that this guy is a fake, I would listen to him speak and a small part of me wanted to trust him.  The man had serious speaking skills like none I ever saw before and those with less strength than me fall for him completely, people fainting at his events were commonplace.  Obama was like a rock star, a Hollywood construct, not a politician.
 
I do not think Obama was a puppet, no, I believe it was Obama who played puppeteer and used the Democratic party for his own ends. 
Shane Dean Added Mar 9, 2017 - 2:49pm
Perhaps you are right, Louis.  I just felt the whole time the Dems picked him to check off a historical box.  I also feel the first election that he won, the GOP purposefully threw John McCain up the first time because they sensed the mood of the nation and didn't waste a candidate that was worthwhile because they couldn't win.  Second time around, I think they underestimated the effect buying votes with things like the ACA and didn't get a charismatic enough candidate.  
 
Perhaps there was a little bit of both.  Obama probably realized the party was more interested in his ethnicity than anything he had to offer, so he went along for the ride and got what he could out of it.
 
And as far as his speaking ability, he did great when someone scripted it out for him, but he stumbled a lot when things were off the cuff.
 
Hopefully, the Democrats will take a long hard look and offer a viable choice in four years.
Patrick Writes Added Mar 9, 2017 - 8:06pm
Interesting post. I don't understand most of the International Women's Day fanfare. There are places in the world where women need a lot of help. The U.S.A. doesn't seem to be one of them. So why are many of these high profile women so angry? 
 
The Trump comments he was recorded saying are disgusting though. If he ever did those things, the guy is a piece of work. Are they angry because of decades old comments by the president though?
 
Or it is about these (likely) unattainable goals of half of government representatives and big business CEO's being women? It's likely never to happen because men are more aggressive than women on average and most women want to have families which puts them back a few years in their careers. There are certainly one-off cases of women like Margaret Thatcher who have done it all but on average it's just going to be tougher for women to reach those top echelon posts.
 
Some will do it, but to say half of these posts across society should all be women at all times, it's likely never to happen. 
 
I was hearing on the radio today an Australian Parliament representative with a young family complaining about how hard it was doing the long hours with her young children. And how it's off-putting to women with families. And then a pundit went on about how Australian society needs to do more to accommodate women members of Parliament with young families. 
 
And it struck me as bizarre because they were basically saying there are important jobs composed of a lot long hours and hard work. And somebody else should do that hard work so that a young mother can show up and be counted in that job and be paid for it.
 
And you hear this refrain often about how more and more accommodating society and the job market must be for women. At some point you have to ask yourself, "well if they can't do the job, then they shouldn't be there". 
Shane Dean Added Mar 9, 2017 - 8:35pm
I hear you Patrick.  I am certainly not advocating women be given jobs just because they are women.  That is the kind of thing that galls women like my mother and my wife who do the hard that needs to be done.
 
On refrain I find kind of interesting is talking about women wanting to do it all and have it all.  And that is totally possible, you just have to find a way to make it work.
 
In a very microcosm kind of way, my wife and I made a lot of things work because of shared responsibility.  I am not mentioning this to make out like I am a saint or that everything worked perfectly, but my wife and I worked out a lot of things together.  I changed diapers a lot.  I would be the one to get up when a baby cried and bring him to my wife so she could nurse.  I shared a lot of the running around.  We both managed to be at almost every parent teacher conference.  
 
NO ONE, man or woman, can do everything and be everywhere all the time.  Just like in family, there are partnerships and divisions of tasks.  
 
I think it is good to recognize women and their contributions.  And I think women should be given equal opportunity to go for any job they are qualified for.  But opportunity does not equal just putting women in a place because there are not many women in that place.  Margaret Thatcher got where she was because of the work she did.  Condoleezza Rice also.  This is one of the reasons I get so angry when I see race and gender questions on job applications.  If I have the qualifications, it shouldn't matter if I am purple with horns.
 
One final note on Trump.  I think he is kind of a jerk as a person, but the lynch mobs about a few things he said versus the free pass that Hillary and Bill Clinton have gotten for their ACTIONS is blind partisan hypocrisy and actually is a detriment to real women like my wife and mother who actually get things done that make women look good.
Tamara Wilhite Added Mar 10, 2017 - 9:57am
The Women's Day in the West is an act of privilege and luxury, while many of these "feminists" ignore or even excuse injustice against women in the developing world because oppression of them is their culture and you can't criticize it without being called racist.
 
Why Don't Feminists Fight for Muslim Women?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJkFQohIKNI
 
So they demand a spa day while ignore female genital mutilation, forced veilings under threat of violence if they don't, forced marriages, honor killings, ISIS sex slaves ... waah, we don't have half the CEO positions of top 500 companies.
Shane Dean Added Mar 10, 2017 - 11:52am
Wow, Tamara, you really nailed those points home!  I find it especially ironic as white female liberals scream a lot about white male privilege, ignoring their own.
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Mar 10, 2017 - 2:26pm
Like most of us - We always see the glass half empty.  We all do this.
That's what todays Feminist movement does.  
 
Think about it, a hundred years ago we didn't have inside plumbing, a refrigerator or a car to drive.  I don't care how bad most of us are here, I'm sure we all have all that, or access to that.  Even though in 5 years many of us might loose all that.  Tomorrow is tomorrow.  We live today and should be thankful for that, but we, even me, forget all that. 
 
That's the feminists, they forget they have all that.  Rather than be thankful for all they have, they complain about everything they think they lack.  Society begins to wonder, how much is enough, can't you share. 
Shane Dean Added Mar 10, 2017 - 3:21pm
Minister, thank you for your input. My mother personally hates the word feminist now.  She actually got into an argument with a woman about whether feminists do any good.  Turns out the woman was married to a doctor at a very early age and never really worked much for herself.  Once my mom found that out she all but yelled at the woman "When I was actually showing men I could program computers when they said I couldn't l, what were you doing?  What have you ever done besides babysit a doctor?"
 
It just seems to me the women who do the most good aren't running their mouth but instead running their butt off actually getting things done.
 
Again, thanks for your input.
Shane Dean Added Mar 11, 2017 - 5:14pm
Other side, it may be that way now (and I am skeptical), I know for a fact it did not used to be that way.  Unless high tech suddenly got unionized or you have some other documentation to show that women are indeed getting paid the same as men, I am going to have to say you are incorrect.
Neelon Crawford Added Mar 12, 2017 - 1:14am
Regarding your thoughts on past elections, I don’t know how you can think the GOP nominated process was rigged.  After all, it’s the same process that picked McCain and selected Trump from out of nowhere.  To be sure, no Republican would have beat Obama in 2008, as with the Iraq war going badly and the economy in recession any Democrat would have won.  I thought McCain, with a female as his running mate, was the best Republicans could have hoped to do.  If it wasn’t for the Couric interview where Palin outed herself for being ignorant, they might have won.  The fact more “feminists” didn’t come to the GOP side simply proves women are liberals first and feminists second. 
 
As it relates to women’s issues and these marches and no-work days, I just don’t get it.  What right is it that they’re fighting for?  What do they hope to achieve by not working?  I think it’s simply more Trump protesting in disguise. 
Shane Dean Added Mar 13, 2017 - 5:41pm
Thank you for weighing in, Neelon.  I was not trying to imply the GOP nomination process was rigged.  But the top party members mostly work together to get some nominees they prefer.  I just think in 2008 they gave up before they really got going and decided to give the old warhorse McCain a moment in the sun.  I remember a similar defeatist campaign when Mondale ran against Reagan in 1984.  Seriously, why ANYONE but party hardliners voted for the former Vice President of Jimmy Carter, who Reagan also obliterated, is beyond me.
 
As far as what women are still "fighting for", I think it is identity.  Which is silly because there should not be a group gender checklist.  Not all men are the same, so why should all women be.  
 
There are some strides still to be made, but I don't think anymore laws will fix that.  And not showing up and showing you can be done without is just dumb.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Mar 14, 2017 - 5:37pm
Shane
 
Who keeps the economy in Africa going ?
 
The women.
 
No other comment ;-)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Mar 14, 2017 - 5:43pm
BTW:
 
In Africa, the women don't need any feminism. They know what they are worth, and the men respect that (south of the Sahara). There ARE Things which need to be stopped, as excision, but it's under way. Even when I was in Mali in 1998, they started campaigns aganist that. And it works.
 
We don't Need any feminism or chauvinism. We Need to get back to Basics:
 
ONE person in the family has to be able to feed it . Not BOTH. Whether it's the father or the mother, who cares ?
Shane Dean Added Mar 14, 2017 - 7:01pm
Good points, Stone.  I think one of the biggest problems, especially in the US, is people are too attached to their toys and oversized walk-in closets.  If we could live even like my parents did, people wouldn't need to earn as much to keep their family going.  That isn't to say both heads of the household shouldn't work if they both want to, but it should be out of desire and not a perceived need.
 
I would disagree somewhat that African women get more respect, but I am only going off the very few people I have met from Africa, a few in high school and a small handful in college. 
Mark Hunter Added Mar 19, 2017 - 5:43am
Well said, Shane.
Shane Dean Added Mar 22, 2017 - 8:33pm
TY, Mark.