Liberté, égalité, fraternité, inshallah?

If, as now looks certain, 'the empty suit' Emmanel Macron, the candidate with no party, no philosophy and no policies becomes President of France when the official announcement of the result is made, what will become of those French people who do not want Islamification to continue.

 

Apart from his being a globalist, pro European integration, mass immigration supporting apparatchik of the banking cartel, who knows what kind of France Marcon's government will deliver? Macron doesn't, that's for sure. That's if he is able to govern effectively at all.

 

French investor and political pundit Charles Gave, commented when asked what Macron's agenda would look like, said:

"Well, first, nobody knows. Because during the whole campaign, all these talks were on one hand, on the other. I'm in favor of apple pie, and motherhood, you see. Basically he has, to my knowledge, very little program. So he's running. That is what Hollande said. That he was going to make some fundamental changes without hurting people. And so Macron is a big, empty suit. That's what he is. You did the right curriculum vitae, he went to the right schools. And you have the feeling that the guy never had an original idea in his life. He was always a good student."

 

In other circles there is a strong feeling that Macron is a kind of golem created by Hollande, a globalist, federalist mini - me forged in the hope that at least a couple of socialist fingers would remain on the helm of the French state. They knew they were going to lose the election, and that a socialist candidate would suffer a heavy defeat so they created a sort of hologram candidate (we must not forget that before quitting to form his new centre left popular movement, Macron had a senior position in the socialist government under Hollande.

 

The idea, according to cynics - and there are a lot of cynics in France, was Macron would run for them and prevent the pro - EU, pro - Federalism party from losing power. It appears then that, the French political system has been taken over by the the Technocratic / Managerialist class. And this Technocratic class is presenting Macron as something new but in reality he represents business as usual except that the seat of power will be even more remote and detached from the working and middle classes. The pro - EU elite have been in power for 50 years, they have not survived that long without learning a thing or to about using propaganda to manipulate public opinion.

 

The biggest problem, barring terrorist outrages, that Macron will faceing in the French national assembly to enable him to get laws through. As stated above, he has no party, no base of support, and in the assembly elections, due in a few weeks, the socialist party where he might have expected to find most support, is likely to suffer heavy losses. The conservatives will not support him unless they dictate policy. In a sense Le Pen has really won the day because the worst case scenario for her, that she will have to tun again in the 2022 elections, is still achievable. As for the parliamentary elections, Le Pen could reasonably expect to have anywhere between 40 to 100 MP's if the results bear out polls as accurately as in the presidential vote, and thus could effectively ally with the conservatives to block most of Macron's likely measures.... which would be a total disaster for the ruling class."

 

In other words, assuming Macron triumphs and is president elect tomorrow, the National Front isn't going anywhere. And its rising star Le Pen's niece Marion, has a distinct advantage over her astringent aunt:

 

Marion, is very young, 28; probably too young to be a candidate in 2022. She is already an MP in the French Parliament. She's extremely pretty, which will win the votes of French males, and she represents the family oriented values of the French Catholic Right, which is where most Republican and Socialist votes come from. 2022 is going to be interesting.

 

 

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Comments

Ian Thorpe Added May 7, 2017 - 3:25pm
Just had a little debate with myself about whether to leave this post up, when I saw how the title came out on the front page. The first bit should be in French, as above, followed by Inshallah (God willing). Chance that as the site's host has and the joke is lost.
Bit to much to expect artificial intelligence to have a sense of humour of course.
Dino Manalis Added May 7, 2017 - 4:45pm
Terrorism and the refugee crisis will continue to enhance Le Pen's popularity, so Macron should position himself center-right on economic and security issues to reassure the public, as well as contain Le Pen.
Tamara Wilhite Added May 7, 2017 - 5:54pm
The first obligation of a nation is to protect its citizens. A man who says "Muslim terrorists killing people, get used to it, we can't protect you, we're bringing in millions more who believe they have the right to hurt you and demand free stuff from you, you're the one to be punished if you oppose any of this" is violating the most basic reason why governments exist and shouldn't be allowed to be in power.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 8, 2017 - 6:33am
Macron has a party. The Bilderberg and Rotschild group.
Billy Roper Added May 8, 2017 - 8:36am
Le Pen was cucked, too, but the French, like the rest of us, will have to learn the hard way that they won't be able to regain control over their destinies through the ballot box.
Ian Thorpe Added May 8, 2017 - 11:58am
Dino, you're right in saying terrorism and immigration will continue to drive the agenda, but I don't think Macron can position himself anywhere. He's controlled by the banking cartel, so is just an office boy really.
Ian Thorpe Added May 8, 2017 - 12:01pm
Tamara,
"Muslim terrorists killing people, get used to it,"
Yeah, I thought that would be the campaign killer too :-)
As Cicero said 2000 years ago, "The welfare of the people is the paramount law."
Ian Thorpe Added May 8, 2017 - 12:12pm
EXPAT, correct; Macron is from the same school as Obama and Clinton. There is a war on for control, globalised technology and globalised labour were among the weapons The Powers That Be created to give them control, but in the internet they gave us a weapon we could use to fight back.
Some parts of European society are waking up, the technocratic and managerial classes are still totally committed to 'the project' however. I predict Italy will be next to leave the EU (Quitaly), France isn't ready yet, they probably need to see a few German regiments marching through Paris before they realise France is done for.

I know what you mean about AI having a sense of humour, watching TV with simultaneous subtitling on is hilarious at times.
Ian Thorpe Added May 8, 2017 - 12:14pm
Stone,
Very good point. There will be a few breadcrumbs for the poor, but he will govern for the benefit of the super - rich.
Ian Thorpe Added May 8, 2017 - 12:18pm
Billy, you may be right. I hope not because although I'm a great believer in the masses rising up and taking direct action if it comes to a bloody conflict THEY have some formidable weapons for us to take on with our pitchforks and cudgels.
Ari Silverstein Added May 8, 2017 - 5:04pm
For whatever it’s worth, the last person you’d want running a country is someone with an original idea.  Desired should be someone that respects the views of others so much that he takes the very best ideas and pursues them.  Speaking of there being a lot of cynics, that’s exactly how I would classify this article, cynical to a fault.  Macron’s supporters obviously don’t think he’s an empty suit.  If they did, he wouldn’t have won the popular vote. 
 
Is it good or bad to be:
 
A Federalist? 
Pro-EU?
A globalist?
A member of a political party?
 
It seems to me that sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad.  It depends, yet all this post does it make it sound like he stands on the wrong side of issues where it behooves politicians to stand on both sides on occasion.  
Jeff Michka Added May 8, 2017 - 6:13pm
THEY have some formidable weapons for us to take on with our pitchforks and cudgels.- If THEY re anything like Them, we'll need walking staves and Morris dancers, too.
Mark Hunter Added May 9, 2017 - 2:29am
From what I've read about it, this seems to be another example of voters eager to avoid facing their problems.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 7:15am
A Federalist
 
Best idea. Globalist is shit and delusional. You can make business global, but not culture. And culture defines the art of business. So global business demands a hell of a lot of understanding of - cultures, if not, it won't work.
 
Except when you dream about a world which is McDonalds in all areas. But that's another stupid dream that even Rothschilds and Bilderbergs will never be able to realize.
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 9:00am
Ari Silverstein,
I get the impression you understand little about French politics and even less about human nature. Because French elections are over two rounds of voting, French voters tend to vote for the candidate they prefer in the first round, and then, because France does not have a simple major party duopoly, but a highly fragmented electorate with numerous parties to choose from, many voters are forced to coalesce behind the candidate they least dislike in the second round, a run off between the two leading candidates from the first.

So when I say many French voters think Macron is an "empty suit", that might actually be the very reason he won a majority of the valid votes cast, an empty suit was seen by many as preferable to Le Pen.

I mentioned "valid votes" there Ari, a topic I will expand on in another article. Please don't start pontificating until and unless you understand what I am referring to.
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 9:04am
Jeff, the people who make up the inner core of THEY or Them will be shuffling around on their zimmer frames, safe in their ivory towers, it's the people they pay to stand in their shield wall we have to remove first.
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 9:08am
Mark, there is always a lot of that in elections, voting out the people who cause the problems and replacing them with a government that offers something different is a high risk strategy and a lot of people don't 'do' risk. Thus after Brexit, Britain is turning to The Conservatives. Safety first, better the devil you know and all that ...
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 9:18am
Stone, when I tell you the idea of a single state Federal Europe has its roots in Nazi Germany you might change your mind about it being a good idea.
And when you read the ideas of Richard Coudenhove - Kalergi, one of the ideological founders European Union, on the abolition of nations, compulsory inter - racial marriage and the creation of a global culture, the EU will suddenly appear in a different light.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 11:12am
Ian
 
I know that. We were fooled in the Nineties by the promise of open borders, free trade and "never any war in Europe again", whileas the original idea was to build a block ruled by the US in order to gain advantage over Russia.
 
I was 30 at that time and a follower of the idea. Because we didn't know better. Only the Internet and the starting to reflect globally made us see the real purposes of those strategic moves.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 11:14am
BTW: I never said the EU was a good idea for the reasons I stated above.
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 11:26am
Stone, sorry if I misunderstood.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 11:40am
Ian
 
No sweat. Who's that guy in the avatar you got there ? Looks like a 70's serial actor LOL
Ian Thorpe Added May 9, 2017 - 1:33pm
That's me when I was a 70s and 80s radio presenter (small station I had to keep my day job on) - only photo of me that was taken by a pro, all the others I'm messing about with the kids or something
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 2:59pm
Hehe......get a pic of NOW up there :-)
Norton Louis Added May 9, 2017 - 3:07pm
For me, the main event about Macron's election is not "who is he and what is his agenda?".  More importantly, the French, like the British and the US are increasingly rejecting the status quo.  Both Macron and LaPen were not mainstream candidates.  Macron is just one more step along the scale towards a resurgence of nationalism and populism in the world.  When you are as far left as France has been over the years, an inexperienced "empty suit" without major party affiliation is still a repudiation of the EU and open borders. I predict the next ruler beyond Macron will be an even more populist head of state.  
 
Cue the black helicopters........
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 3:22pm
Both Macron and LaPen were not mainstream candidates
 
Macron is a high finance product. Le Pen is a bourgeois product of Vive La France. Both are nil. As are Merkel or May. Forget that left-right shit. It's all about money and the continuation of feudal structures, nowadays called corporatocracy.
George N Romey Added May 9, 2017 - 3:30pm
As is Trump.  He is also a creature of the corporatocracy swamp.  They all offer much for the people then settle down into a world of never ending arguments, disagreements, posturing, pontificating and posing as to appear to be for something. In the interim the corporatocracy gets richer while everyone else poorer. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 3:33pm
George
 
I told you. Come to Senegal LOL
George N Romey Added May 9, 2017 - 3:36pm
Got a job starting next week.  Need to get money into the bank so I can run away.
Donna Added May 9, 2017 - 4:42pm
Stone, i will be hiding in Georges Suitcase.the joy of being small!!    :)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 5:11pm
George
 
Good luck ! And remember: You can only be you own boss when you want it. And often it works without much money, but with experience and courage.
 
Stay cool, you're a good guy. Thumbs up !
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 5:12pm
Donna
 
Why be small ? I am BIG. Unfortunately people haven't noticed it yet LOL
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 9, 2017 - 5:14pm
BTW George:
 
You know the door is open. Gotta learn some French but after that you'll forget Internet LOL
Norton Louis Added May 9, 2017 - 5:15pm
Stone, George and Donna.....I know how tempting it is to want to run away and hide from a situation that seemingly has every card stacked against us as average citizens. However, each of us has a choice to respond to a world increasingly controlled by corporate interests to fight, to do nothing or to run and hide.
 
These votes for Trump, Brexit and Macron represent an awakening by the People....regardless of whether your jaded and skeptical view of the individuals receiving these votes is correct.  
 
One thing is certain, if enough people do nothing or run away, nothing will change.
 
If you are truly "run and hide" people, I encourage you to also remain silent so that you don't unintentionally take the wind out of the sails of those of us that would like to demand more accountability from our governments.
 
Power to the People.
George N Romey Added May 9, 2017 - 5:46pm
The people at least in the US need to wake up and demand first and foremost publicly financed elections and second and end to the party duopoly. 
Norton Louis Added May 9, 2017 - 6:27pm
George could not agree more.......I believe our "problem" as a society in the US is too much money.  Ever hear of the term "stuffed shirt"?  This comes from the early 20th century when wealth was measured  by the luxury of calories.  Shop at any Wal Mart today and you can visibly see the effects (think stretch-pants) of too much money in the system fostering gluttony & apathy in the average American.
 
As our individual wealth declines in the US, we hopefully will begin paying more attention to how the place is run.  I believe that is already happening in America.  It will be a close race to fully awaken as a people and enact change against agents of corruption before the complete collapse of the next economic bubble...but the race is worth running nonetheless.
 
Taking the long view for the human race, Phoenix can also rise from the ashes (provided they are not nuclear in nature) if we fail to save the US due to the actions of those that would strip her corpse for its gold fillings.
John G Added May 10, 2017 - 2:23am
Voting for Macron is a vote against the status quo?
In what universe does that statement make sense?
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 3:26am
Norton
 
These votes for Trump, Brexit and Macron represent an awakening by the People
 
Voting for Macron the Rothschild and Bilderberg puppet is not quite an awakening of the people. It rather shows how stupid they are. Even Le Pen would have been better. Wait and see.....
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 9:26am
Stone, a recent pic? I'll try to find something but there aren't any recent ones I could use for a profile pic. And I am NOT using my passport photo.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 9:31am
Ian
 
Forget it LOL
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 9:39am
Norton, I agree that the French election coming down to a run off between Mr. No Party Macron and the political pariah Le Pen rather than being a victory for the establishment and 'the end of the nationalist revival' shows an increasing trend for voters to reject the establishments globalist, multicultural agenda.
People forget that Syriza in Greece and Podemos in Spain were anti establishment parties with a socialist agenda. The UK's Brexit vote was not a 'right wing extremist' vote, most people who voted leave were working class traditional Labour voters and Trump's win in the US election was a rejection of Hillary and Washington, I realy don't think The Donald would have been most Republican voters' first choise for president.
It will continue to move the same way until mainstream politicians remember they are elected to serve the voters, not dictate to us.
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 9:43am
Stone; "It's all about money and the continuation of feudal structures, nowadays called corporatocracy,"
Absolutely, and what is amusing is those who style themselves 'the left' and claim they hate capitalism don't realise they are supporting the extension of corporate control when they argue for globalism.
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 9:47am
Donna, welcome to the thread. When you get out of George's suitcase we can have a cup of tea or something (English builders' tea that is, the kind that dissolves the stir it)
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 9:57am
George, we're singing off the same song sheet. I recall in an earlier thread I had commented in on flaws in democratic electoral systems somebody told me the flaws in the US system are very minor and can easily be fixed, and I pointed out that a system that allows Super PACs and (usually) gives huge advantages to the candidate with most money looks very flawed to me.
I don't know what the best answer would be, but the current system needs to change.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 10:21am
Ian
 
those who style themselves 'the left' and claim they hate capitalism don't realise they are supporting the extension of corporate control when they argue for globalism.
 
Well said :-)
Jeff Jackson Added May 10, 2017 - 10:58am
Ian, in a review of some of all this hoopla about Super PACs, there is a new book out where a legal analyst who was opposed to allowing Super PACS the privilege to contribute, and then read their case and changed his mind. 
It is a Constitutional issue, no doubt. Given the influence that the Super PACs have, it is doubtful the issue would ever get to the level of amending the Constitution, now that they have wield such power and influence. I am personally amazed at all of the money that circulates, billions, and yet these firms can't pay their employees very much money. That's amazing in itself. We could have a revolution, doubtful, or balkanize (never can figure out if it is Capitalized, and a WB favorite). 
Have you heard of the Constitutional Convention scenario? IT has been discussed several times. We get together and compose a new Constitution, and the states, of course, must ratify it. 
 
John Minehan Added May 10, 2017 - 12:44pm
I wonder if the French electorate has "hedged" by electing Macron but giving parties on the Right a legislative majority?  In the US, "that trick never works" (to quote Rocket J. Squirrel), but let's see in France.
 
In the US, we have a fundamental problem that we have a large, unaccountable bureaucracy (for lack of a better term, call it "The Federal regulatory State") but we also have legislators in the House and the Senate who do not generally have the technical knowledge to make decisions in areas like Health Care or Defense.  Is Macron, a Technocrat to his bones, a possible answer to that dilemma or will he make it worse? 
John Minehan Added May 10, 2017 - 12:51pm
"The first obligation of a nation is to protect its citizens. A man who says "Muslim terrorists killing people, get used to it, we can't protect you, we're bringing in millions more who believe they have the right to hurt you and demand free stuff from you, you're the one to be punished if you oppose any of this" is violating the most basic reason why governments exist and shouldn't be allowed to be in power."
 
And, despite this, he crushed Le Pen, who took the opposite track. 

Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 1:02pm
John M, the USA is not alone in having a large, unaccountable bureaucracy. The problem with 'technocrats' in the current environment is by definition they are experts in their specialist area. As Macron is an investment banker he is unqualified to legislate on areas such as health, defence, foreign policy, technology, transport, education etc. and it seems likely to me, given the state of western economies, that he can only make things worse in finance, employment and welfare.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 1:06pm
John
 
Talking about Merkel ? LOL
 
A chaotic, disorganized Europe due to the flood of immigrants resulting from US wars and economic exploitation of other continents has a favorable result for the US:
 
1) Less economic competition from the EU
2) A renewal of the links US-Europe through NATO by the never ending damnation of Russia - the final goal.
 
http://www.belfercenter.org/publication/strategic-engineered-migration-weapon-war
 
Wars can be fought without weapons......;-)
John Minehan Added May 10, 2017 - 1:08pm
"Stone, when I tell you the idea of a single state Federal Europe has its roots in Nazi Germany you might change your mind about it being a good idea."
 
In a narrow sense, but it also goes back to Napoleon and even to Rome (if you want to go back far enough).
 
EU really grew directly out of the European Coal and Steel Community and France's Robert Schulman's attempt to integrate the Germans into Europe to avoid another World War.  (Sort of LBJ's Better to have them inside the tent p!$$ing out, than outside the tent p!$$ing in," and, in theory might be the best approach to Russia.)  
Ian Thorpe Added May 10, 2017 - 1:10pm
Jeff, I know there are regular calls for a new constitution (though I thought Obama had implemented a heavily revised one), but I had not heard of a Constitutional Convention before. I can't see it getting far if states like Oklahoma and Mississippi can veto ideas put forward by New York or California and vice versa.
Controls on campaign spending should be fixable without a new constitution however.
John Minehan Added May 10, 2017 - 1:14pm
"Voting for Macron is a vote against the status quo?
In what universe does that statement make sense?"
 
Macron did not run as part of an established party, so, at least to that very limited degree, it was a break from the past.  Of course, as the Who said, "Here's the new boss/same as the old boss." 
Jeff Jackson Added May 10, 2017 - 1:16pm
Yes, Ian, the Constitutional Convention idea comes and goes. I'm with you, I do not see it succeeding any time soon, because of the divisions that you listed. The original Constitution was written by a Constitutional Convention, so some people think that we could do it again. We had a lot more in common and a lot fewer states in 1783...
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 2:34pm
John
 
attempt to integrate the Germans into Europe to avoid another World War.
 
Matter of perception. To me, the Germans were finally driven into war - not necessarily as bad as it cumulated, but as you know, the US always had the fear that Germany and Russia could unite in some way. Even today.
 
That's the reason the EU (and NATO) was founded for. To cut them back, integrate them into a larger unit and get a block which was and is easier to control for the US.
 
Don't forget that Germany is occupied up to now---
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 10, 2017 - 2:36pm
BTW: The US profited a lot by WWII. And Hitler was supported by them for a long time before it started. The Marshall plan created a lot of work on both sides...
 
That's what Cheney wanted in Iraq. Flatten the thing and then get US companies to rebuild it. The system remains the same.
John G Added May 11, 2017 - 2:46am
S-EF You mean it's not about democracy, peace and love?
Well bugger me.
John G Added May 11, 2017 - 2:48am


Ian Thorpe 



Jeff, I know there are regular calls for a new constitution (though I thought Obama had implemented a heavily revised one)
That says much about the sanity of Ian Thorpe.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 8:50am
John
 
GRIN
 
Ian Thorpe Added May 11, 2017 - 9:52am
John G, one day you will make a sane comment and we will all be so surprised we won't know whether to shit or go blind ...
(It's interesting to note here guys that for all his claims of intellectual superiority over the rest of us, Mr. G does not recoginse sarcasm when it jumps out and pulls his pisser.)

Ian Thorpe Added May 11, 2017 - 3:01pm
Stone, since WW2 flattening countries or parts of them and then awarding its corporate cronies big fat contracts to rebuild the infrastructure has been a permanent feature of US government's foreign policy. Since 'Nam did not go quite to plan they have usually used proxies to do the flattening but the result is the same.
John Minehan Added May 11, 2017 - 4:08pm
"Matter of perception. To me, the Germans were finally driven into war - not necessarily as bad as it cumulated, but as you know, the US always had the fear that Germany and Russia could unite in some way. Even today."
 
I think the best solution for both German AND Russia is to become part of Europe and a Europe without those two powers was always incomplete . . . .
Jeff Michka Added May 11, 2017 - 5:28pm
Give 'em an Inshah-allah, and they take a mile.
John G Added May 12, 2017 - 2:20am
John Minehan Added May 11, 2017 - 4:08pm
A German Russian alliance is the nightmare of Anglo-US elites. Their core foreign policy has been designed to separate Russia from Western Europe and especially Germany.
The hostility, aggression and general anti-Russian posture is designed to prevent it.

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