ABOUT SLAVERY

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There was that subject about "slavery" showing up in a recent article. Now. I'm not a friend of Google definition or Webster, but let's look at it from life experience. People in the US have that slave history. All the Blacks which were imported from Africa (with or without a little help of the local chiefs). They're the standard image we get from slaves. No rights, no pay, far away from home and singing the blues.

 

Now, this might be only ONE example on slavery. There are others.

 

- The kid which was separated from his parents because they were poor and sent to a farmer to work in the fields, for no pay and often being beaten for no reason (Switzerland, until about 1960, my father was one of them)

 

- The Filipino who works in Dubai for almost no pay, passport taken by the cops and housed in a shack with 10 people in the same flat

 

- The German woman who has to nourish 2 kids and, because her guy left her, works as a "1 Euro Jobber" in a supermarket and at night goes cleaning offices (and then people say, hey, your kids are always on the street...)

 

Only some examples. Do we call them slaves ? No. But they ARE. In Mali and other West African countries, means also in Senegal, some tribes as the Bambara, Fulani or Soninké, have casts - like in India. There are 4 of them - from the "nobles" (warriors) to the "slaves".

 

But then: They are not TREATED as slaves. They look after the house, they cook, they are paid, and mostly they are like members of the family. People eat together. Because the "slaves" have an important function in society, and finally, when you ask one of them about being a slave, they rub their eyes and laugh !

 

"Slave" is a Western definition. And a most hypocrit one, when you read the three examples I stated. It might, in the 19th century, and even today in places like India, Sudan or Mauretania, still have slaves as you are used to define them. But they are a minority today, even in the area I talk about. And the worldwide publicity is changing that attitude in those countries and helps them to speak out.

 

And when you talk about "sex slaves", be it in Africa or Asia, always keep in mind that the cause WHY they are what they are lies in our own responsability. WE brought our system to them, we created their "needs", we told them our way of life is the best. And our media shows them in daily soaps from Brazil or Mexico or the US what life "can be". Do you know a soap where POOR people are shown ? Do you believe that the public, being undereducated and poor, can resist those temptations ? If I were a poor woman in those countries I'd be a prostitute too. Because then I'd have the hope to help my family survive and now and then buy a nice dress...

 

And now - blame THEM ?

 

Please. When you do that, you represent exactly the hypocrit society we have become. Because the West also has millions of slaves, today. But they aren't aware of it and aren't called slaves. Our digital world and the media helps them not to think about their miserable 8 to 5 life, where no ends meet, only the ones of their bosses.

Comments

Jeffry Gilbert Added May 11, 2017 - 12:55pm
Most egregious slavery in DUHmerica is paying $0.20 per hour for mandatory work in prison industry of private for profit prison companies who charge the gov't $350 a DAY to lock up one prisoner. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 1:02pm
Jeffry
 
Same here in Switzerland. I'm on welfare but work 70% "benevol" as a social worker in a program called "reintegration work for older unemployed persons". Adds 200$ a month to my welfare. And 200$ is not very much in Switzerland.
 
Up to the age of 65 - that'd be 6 years to go, and the prospect of ending in an old people's home run by the state.
 
That's one more reason why I've chosen Africa LOL
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 1:03pm
BTW: I've read about your prison industry. Most disgusting, but then ... the US, the land of thousand possibilities LOL
George N Romey Added May 11, 2017 - 1:13pm
How about 1099 employees like Uber that end up paying less than minimum. wage.  There are large numbers of businesses that have sprung up in the US with a business model based upon exploiting desperate, poor people that used to be in the middle class.  As far as I am concerned the CEO of Uber should be taken out in the public square and hung by his balls until he passes out and dies of intense pain.
Sander de Kool Added May 11, 2017 - 1:22pm
Stone, that's what I mostly call Modern Slavery.. Slaves with rights and not only duties. Only no money to call on those rights and no place in society to be what you want to be. 
 
You forgot to mention the Dutch, one of largest slavery traders with, among others, the VOC (United East-Indian Company) and the foreign states like Suriname and South Africa. Not something to be proud of in our history, but more something to remember. 
 
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 1:23pm
George
 
that's what I say...slaves. Although I didn't only want to point to what happens here in the West. I just don't like the fact that people use words like "slave" without seeing it in the context of the culture.
 
We get back to the old problem: People take ONE word and start to blather without seeing that the world has so many differect facettes.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 1:35pm
Sander
 
Hey nice to see you ! Goede morje :-) You're right -
 
Slaves with rights and not only duties. Only no money to call on those rights
 
Excellent one. But you see, so many nations in Europe supported the slave trade. It was another time, people didn't know better, and without getting into the guilt subject ;-).....we cannot make our generations responsible for that era, be it Dutch, Portuguese, English or whatever.
 
But we can look at TODAY. The Sudanese farm slave and the Dutch low salary worker might have not much in common, but both are not free to decide and live. The first due to archaic cultural customs and the latter due to exploitation by the economy.
Dino Manalis Added May 11, 2017 - 1:36pm
Slavery has to be banned anywhere it still exists!  Freedom for all!
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 1:37pm
Dino
 
Give me some more details ;-)
Sander de Kool Added May 11, 2017 - 1:50pm
Goedenmorgen, but at this time more goedenavond :-).
 
Well, I not think in Holland, we have much modern slaves. Not like in Germany and even Belgium, where there are many poor workers. We do have a reasonable minimum wage and good social care. But the enormous (and still growing) gap between rich and poor is one of the largest problems in our time and makes the poor more like slaves, while the rich have the money and power to divide and rule. 
George N Romey Added May 11, 2017 - 1:59pm
Its 1850 all over again here in the US.  The cotton plantation has been replaced by the office, retail store, your own car and/or house, etc.  They don't beat you anymore but you have so much financial stress and anxiety you will die young anyway.  We used to call our masters "Mastaa", now we just call them by their first name.  Makes it seem so much more "folksy."
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 2:18pm
Sander
 
here it's evening as well, but I didn't know the Dutch word for "Abend" (=evening in German) in Dutch:-)
 
This is a worldwide phenomenon. Globalism has that effect. Why ? Because globalism means a few global companies dictate life, the winners and the losers, and they influence daily life up to the point where culture and identity is lost.
 
Adidas sneekers are worn everywhere. McDonald's "food" is eaten everywhere. Youngsters all rap and breakdance.
 
You see, the problem is not that "a handful" can rule us. The problem is that even if you kill that handful others will take their place who are already prepared for it (see Macron).
 
These are bonds which exist since centuries, since the kings of Europe secured their claims by intermarriage.
 
Only today, there's not kings anymore. But corporations and networks who make sure that they all are interconnected. In Malaysia, in Australia, the US or even in Russia. Wherever. And due to the fact that they have the money, they can secure that infinitely.
 
Because they know that the majority of Homo Sapiens is easy to lead. Even 8 billions.
George N Romey Added May 11, 2017 - 2:35pm
Excellent points SEF.  I totally agree, the Kings and Queens have been replaced by the corporate, finance and politically notability.
Sander de Kool Added May 11, 2017 - 2:39pm
Macron is the best of the rest, and maybe that is the problem. Although I'm in favor of globalization, I think trade is the best way to avoid war and to avoid poverty. And the best way to trade, is to see the world as one, and not as different places with borders. 
 
Look at France, one of the countries with lost of working poors, more than 10 prcnt unemployed and lost of social problems. A part of the people just want back to the 50ties, not a very nice time. They want back to a time that France was still leading in the world, with their colonies and their grandeur. Because of the enormous power of the unions, there has not been a healthy work balance in many decades and they have a notional debt of more than 130 prcnt of GGP. Macron might be the only one to change this, if the people of France are willing to reform. They are not only victim of the EU or globalization, but victim of their own impossible ways to get along with a changing world. 
 
By the way, we do have a king ;-)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 3:05pm
Sander
 
Macron is the best of the rest
 
Same as Trump, Clinton, Merkel etc. ? Poor world. We "elect" the most corrupt and unsocial elements into the highest positions ! We really deserve no better than to go down in a blast.
 
globalization
 
20 years ago I was in favor of it - until I realized that "globalization" does not lead to open borders and mutual understanding of peoples but to an unrestricted economic control of some players for the only reason to enslave and manipulate the populations into ONE simple grey mass following an unithink, uniact and unibehave agenda.
 
We're all iShit, McDonalds and Youtube, and we all like to work for a minimum wage so the bosses can have a good life and create more virtual fortunes on Wall Street...
 
Ian Thorpe Added May 11, 2017 - 3:28pm
Stone, your article raises some thoughts on the current European immigration crisis and how organised crime networks are exploiting it to make big money. But I'll have to come back to that because Manchester United are on TV now. :-)
George N Romey Added May 11, 2017 - 3:32pm
We do not have free trade, we have labor exploitation.  Look at the dimwits here on WB that think Trump or HRC will delivery us from the current corporatocracy. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 3:43pm
Ian
 
the current European immigration crisis and how organised crime networks are exploiting it to make big money
 
It has DISTANT connections.. later :-)
Kate Moss Added May 11, 2017 - 3:44pm
USA citizens create about 16.1 trillion USA dollars every year in wealth: goods and services. The people creating that wealth keep about 55% of it--- the rest goes to people who did not create it: corporations and "investors."
 
Out of that 55% that wealth creators get to keep, about 28% goes to Federal income taxes; about 11% goes to state income taxes; about 6% goes to sales taxes (depending on the state / county / town). In fact, the people who create wealth in the USA cannot afford to eat and pay for housing--- they must choose one or the other. This is why a huge number of adults in the USA must live their their parents.
 
The harder wealth creators work, the less wealth they get to keep; they remain poor all of their lives, even when working two or three jobs.
 
Is this not a form of slavery? I think it is. When the minimum wage is $7.25, and a man or woman must pay $16 an hour for child care, I call that a form of slavery.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 11, 2017 - 3:46pm
George
 
We do not have free trade, we have labor exploitation.
 
One doesn't exclude the other - you have the first which allows the second....
George N Romey Added May 11, 2017 - 8:49pm
For most of mankind its been a few select rich exploiting, pillaging and plundering everyone else.  Its been that way always in certain parts of the world.  For the 30 years following WW2 there was actually the great middle here in the US and Europe, afterwards Japan.  The noble elite by definition and family history tend to be sociopaths and psychopaths.  They aren't happy unless they are trampling over their fellow mankind.  They run to their $10K must see and be see bs charity events to ease the tinge of guilt they have.
 
If history is repeated the plutocrats will once again have their heads removed.  Remember we are still animals at heart. 
Patrick Writes Added May 12, 2017 - 1:07am
Interesting post. It seems like it raises one point: 'Give it a rest about the 18th and 19th century institution of slavery, America.' 
 
It ended 150 years ago. Remember it, but let's move on and focus on ending slavery in the present, where it exists. Because it exists in a lot of forms. 
 
The author raises another interesting post about the effect of television (soap operas in particular) on the very poor around the world. Once upon a time, the very poor didn't realize how poor they were in relation to aristocrats living large. Now it's beamed into their living room how poor they really are and what an idealized version of life 'can be like'. 
 
It reminds me of growing up in private, Christian junior high and high school. How they told us doing the right thing would lead to good results (albeit slowly). And many couldn't wait for that, and starting using and/or selling drugs. Getting sexually active. Some girls got pregnant and/or had a shotgun marriage. One guy got arrested for selling drugs that I knew. Another used so much that he had a heart attack by age 22. Others guys just had a kid with a girl and went onto marry someone else (these were all private school, Christian young people). 
 
If that's how Christian young people behave, where a lot of them can't wait for doing the right thing and "karma" to catch back up to them, then what can we expect from the non-religious who want money, a good lifestyle where something like prostitution offers them that now (instead of getting educated, marrying a young guy, and working hard to eventually get to where you want to be). 
 
I guess it's depressing...
Patrick Writes Added May 12, 2017 - 1:19am
Just wanted to add that I've heard a number of written accounts of teen girlss from places like Thailand or India who were effectively forced into prostitution by family directly or indirectly, or simply kidnapped from neighboring countries and brought over the border. And these girls had to be "rescued" from this lifestyle from people pretending to be patrons of these establishments and asking these girls if they want to leave or want help leaving. 
John G Added May 12, 2017 - 4:13am
Sander de Kool Added May 11, 2017 - 2:39pm
It's all the fault of the unions? 
I think not.
 
Mircea Negres Added May 12, 2017 - 4:20am
Nice one, Stone-Eater. It's a lot easier to talk about the way slavery was until the 19th century because it was in the open and documented. Much of modern versions of slavery ranging from actual enslavement such as that practiced by organized crime in their sweatshops to exploitation through below minimum wage jobs is not really in the open or well documented. This is what makes it hard to compare today's shitty conditions with those of 150 years ago. Anyhow, I try my best to avoid buying anything made in communist China (they use political prisoners to manufacture goods), Bangladesh (serious problems with child labor), Zimbabwe (Mugabe's a dictator and his farm grabs wrecked the country, creating millions of refugees) and such places, but my efforts have about as much impact as a mosquito trying to stop a freight train. About soap operas not showing poor people, I've often asked myself how the Forresters in the Bold and the Beautiful got so rich and managed to stay that way considering how many dumb mistakes they kept making... 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 6:31am
Mircea
 
Anyhow, I try my best to avoid buying anything made in communist China (they use political prisoners to manufacture goods), Bangladesh (serious problems with child labor), Zimbabwe (Mugabe's a dictator and his farm grabs wrecked the country, creating millions of refugees) and such places,
 
There are two parties. The named global corporations which produce in named countries and these countries' governments who allow (and profit from) it...
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 6:54am
Patrick
 
Once upon a time, the very poor didn't realize how poor they were in relation to aristocrats living large. Now it's beamed into their living room how poor they really are and what an idealized version of life 'can be like'. 
 
Exactly - that's what I mean.
Fernando Alcoforado Added May 12, 2017 - 7:38am
Stone-Eater Friedli, I consider the subject of slavery that you analyze in your opportune article to be very important. I agree with you that the West also has millions of slaves today, but not just the West. Slavery is present everywhere in the world. Slave labor has been banned in almost every country, but there are still many people living under this condition around the world. So-called modern-day slavery reaches more than 45.8 million people worldwide, according to this year's Global Slavery Index, published by the Walk Free Foundation in Australia. Most (almost 35%) are in Asia. In Latin America, there are 2.16 million workers, 161.1 thousand of them in Brazil that, in 2014, they were 155.3 thousand. According to the report, the incidence of this crime is higher in rural areas of the country.

Walk Free defines as slavery "a situation of exploitation that cannot be overcome because a person is under threat, violence, coercion or abuse of power". Check out five examples raised by the organization:

1) Fisheries and seafood industry

Human rights groups say that thousands of people are forced to work on fishing boats, where they can remain for years without even being able to see the coast. The victims state that if they are caught trying to escape, they may be killed or thrown into the sea. Thailand, the world's third-largest seafood exporter, has been accused of packing its boats with Burmese and Cambodians who were forced to work as slaves. Intermediaries usually lie promising jobs in factories, but in the end they take people to fishing boats, according to victims.

2) 'Marijuana factories' and nail salons

The numbers suggest 10,000 to 13,000 UK slavery victims from countries such as Albania, Nigeria, Vietnam and Romania. Some 3,000 Vietnamese children are working in "marijuana factories" and nail salons, where they hear that "their families will regret" if they escape.

3) Sexual slavery
 
The International Labor Organization estimates that there are around 4.5 million victims of sexual exploitation in the world. In the Dominican Republic, 25% of foreign tourists participate in the sex trade - one in every four victims is a minor, according to the Walk Free. The country and Haiti have the highest percentage of people under slave labor conditions relative to the population - 1%. Both are in eighth place in the Global Slavery Index.

4) Imposition of begging

The report points out that many children in Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Middle East are forced by criminals to seek alms on the streets. One of the victims told the investigators: "Even if I ask for alms, they do not pay me anything.  I have to give them everything they earn". They do not feed me properly and I cannot sleep well. It is servitude".

5) On private properties
Much of modern slavery is not visible to the public - it happens in homes, farms, or other types of private property.

However, slavery is not limited to the 5 examples presented by Walk Free. Today, we have modern servitude that is a voluntary slavery, accepted by a multitude of slaves that creep across the face of the Earth. They themselves choose the masters they are to serve. In order for this absurd tragedy to be successful, it was necessary to remove from human beings the capacity to become aware of the exploitation and alienation of which they are victims. Today we are faced with totally enslaved human beings who do not realize what is happening, or rather, that they cannot see. They accept without discussing the unfortunate life that was planned for them. This is the nightmare of modern slaves who are carried away by the macabre dance of the prevailing system of alienation. Oppression is modernized by extending to all parts of the world the forms of mystification that conceal the condition of slaves of the vast majority of the world's population.
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 8:49am
Fernando
 
Thanks a lot for that additional information !
Billy Roper Added May 12, 2017 - 1:13pm
More Whites were kidnapped by Africans and brought to Africa as slaves than the number of Africans who were brought to the New World and became slaves to Whites. That having been said, I certainly wish they never would have been.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 1:23pm
Billy
 
?????? LOL
Mircea Negres Added May 12, 2017 - 3:05pm
Stone-Eater, agreed. It's also the companies and their home governments. I remember when bin Laden was in Sudan, the U.S. government brought sanctions against the country for its support of terrorism. They blocked nearly everything, but not the gum arabic which Coca Cola and other firms needed. Coincidentally, gum arabic was also Sudan's biggest export commodity back then and the country was also one of the biggest if not the biggest producer of that stuff; so much for consistent application of principles and laws when profits are threatened.
 
At the same time, there's another element- ordinary people. I made many efforts to tell everyone I knew not to buy things made in China because they'd be supporting the use of political prisoners as slave labor, not to mention keeping that loathsome regime in power, but all they cared about was their wallets. One day it'll probably be their turn to suffer and others won't care if it inconveniences them, and the world will circle closer to the drain...
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 3:22pm
Mircea
 
I made many efforts to tell everyone I knew not to buy things made in China because they'd be supporting the use of political prisoners as slave labor, not to mention keeping that loathsome regime in power, but all they cared about was their wallets
 
A humble position, but: There's not only prisoners in China working for almost no pay. These corporations who employ local SME's to do the cheap labor for them are often the only ones who actually PROVIDE some sort of "work".
 
It's the same as the Germans who export chicken legs (!) to Ghana and other places (stuff they consider waste for their own population) and so rob the local small farmers of their income.
 
Same as the trawlers in Africa (also in Senegal) who empty the oceans in the international zone and get the local fishermen out of work.
 
When you ask the local customer in Europe why he buys that cheap stuff from Africa or Asia, he simply tells you: "Listen, I know all that. But I can't afford to buy fair trade (is it ;-) ? ) because I can barely get by on my salary..."
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 3:27pm
BTW: It's a fine-tuned network where one sits in top and plays the ones against the others. Here you have the European who gets poorer and poorer and there you have the Asian or African who has no other choice.
 
Today's economy is a masterpiece of inhumanity.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 12, 2017 - 3:37pm
Patrick
 
It seems like it raises one point: 'Give it a rest about the 18th and 19th century institution of slavery, America.' 
 
Forgot that one. I don't give it "a rest". But the US is not the only one. It's a human part of character apparently to exploit one for the benefit of oneself.
 
It maybe some perverted remains of the archaic survival drive.
Steve Bergeron Added May 12, 2017 - 8:16pm
Bad ol' America and slavery, right?  When the U.S. had slaves, the entire world accepted slavery.  It was a part of life and culture. It was the United States who first proposed to the world that slavery was bad and shouldn't be accepted.  In fact, it was within the lifetime of many here, when slavery was finally officially ended in Saudi Arabia.  
 
But if you think real slavery still doesn't go on, you're fooled.  It still exists in many parts of the world.  
George N Romey Added May 12, 2017 - 9:01pm
Slavery has been around as long as man has interacted with man.  We still have true forms of slavery and modernized forms of slavery.  I guess there will always be people trying to hose one other group of people.  You think by now humans would have evolved from apes but no dice.
Opes Added May 13, 2017 - 1:29am
Maybe you are looking at this in a way that is incorrect?  Isn't exploiting the resources around us sort of instinctive?  Those resources that are exploited include the people around us.
 
Circumstances are different for each person in capabilities, this has caused a situation for some to be exploited by others.  The tactics seem more sophisticated in some regions of the world.
 
it appear that when a small group of people are isolated from from the bigger and more powerful ones, there is less exploitation among the smaller group.  As the groups grow and associate with other groups, there are increased chance for taking advantage of others.
Mircea Negres Added May 13, 2017 - 3:07am
Stone-Eater, you are correct. By the way, we've been getting chicken pieces Americans don't want through the AGOA treaty. The South African chicken industry is hardly a model of decency and proper corporate employer behavior, but now they're getting hammered by cheaper American imports and heading slowly towards collapse just like our textile, shoe and electronics manufacturing industry died due to Chinese imports. The system is very intricate, but its result is not- the developing world is getting reamed a new a-hole, mostly because politicians either don't know how to arrange a proper treaty, or are paid off to screw their own countries.
Billy Roper Added May 13, 2017 - 9:24am
Stone, in regards to Whites being enslaved by Africans:
https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm
 
Opes Added May 13, 2017 - 11:12am
The Humanities are academic disciplines that study aspects of human culture.  It touches psychology, sociology, and anthropology.  I'm mentioning this because humankind does have behaviors that relate to instincts.  These instincts include forces that continue to grow the population.  Without instinct there would be very minimal reproduction of people.
 
Society attempts to control instincts.  The natural structure of the grouping of humans down to the family unit does have portions of oppressive elements.  So, can we say a child is oppressed because it is dependent on parents, and must be lead, and must obey the parent(s) as their leader?
Opes Added May 13, 2017 - 12:06pm
labels such as barbarians, uncivilized, and underdeveloped, help people feel better about so-called advanced civilizations taking control over less advanced.  The values placed upon a 100% agricultural society that lives closest to the nature as being less advanced is telling.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 13, 2017 - 1:33pm
Billy
 
Ah ok in North Africa, means Algeria, Libya, Egypt etc. But not in Black Africa :)
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 13, 2017 - 1:33pm
Opes
 
Pure arrogance ......
 
john kirk Added May 13, 2017 - 7:16pm
What an exaggerated definition of slavery, some of you writers have really become funny.
1st example   Patrick’s telling of his experience of the Christian School because he had a bad Christian
Teacher or leader. Was Jim Jones slavery runner or a con-man taking someone in.
Mircea Negres is correct maybe we should look at the communist countries that have suffered for years with 200 million death who use the same methods of recruiting members. (Divide and defeat) used by the democrats today. How they do it is show two groups which are differ and divide them by using any way possible . the rich take from the poor , then the police and take advantage of the criminals or ------------- fill that yourselves, the male bosses take advantage the woman worker, the  workers and aristocrats, whites and blacks, on and on I could go .
2nd example the Uber chauffeur, some want to do for spare money or any reason and they don’t really do not have to do it.
Jeff Michka Added May 13, 2017 - 9:28pm
Billy the Nazi tries, but: Davis’s new estimates appear in the book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 - 1500-1800.  Real contemporary stuff. 1800.  IF the White Nationalists had been around, this woulda been stopped. eh?  If FDR had been a wheelchair, he'd still be with us, huh?
Jeff Michka Added May 13, 2017 - 9:31pm
Geo Romey gets on topic with: There are large numbers of businesses that have sprung up in the US with a business model based upon exploiting desperate, poor people that used to be in the middle class. - How long did you work with Uber, Geo?
Billy Roper Added May 14, 2017 - 9:38am
Those who favor importing illegal immigrants for cheap labor now are the same type who favored bringing in blacks as slaves, then. Neither works out well for the host population.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 14, 2017 - 9:53am
Billy
 
On that one I can really agree !
Opes Added May 14, 2017 - 10:10am
Importing free labor that is in bondage has the major side effect of also importing unrest and struggle.  History seems to have overwhelming examples of how invasive the importing of dynamic elements do cause vast interruptions to the receiving culture/society.  It is a co-mingling of values and devaluing.  The advancements of humankind in transportation were too efficient, too fast, way too fast in keeping up with human development emotionally and compassionately.
George N Romey Added May 14, 2017 - 10:24am
I will agree with what Billy Roper says.  Immigrants are sold on an American Dream that has died even for its citizens. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 14, 2017 - 10:30am
Opes
 
Good one. One often oversees the global transportation facilities and information overkill we have today.
Jeff Michka Added May 14, 2017 - 12:08pm
Immigrants are sold on an American Dream that has died even for its citizens. - And they believe it to the extent that they make it work, not constantly whining about "the Man" having them down, then crying "I can't get ahead."  Sound familiar, Geo?
Rex Added May 14, 2017 - 2:13pm
Great article about what slavery is in other places in the world.  We seem to forget or simply ignore what happens. We also act "shocked" wen we discover that it is going on here in the US. You are indeed correct it is hypocritical stance which we are all guilty of to a greater or lesser extent.
 
You do realize that in every civilization in ancient and in modern civilizations  have always had an underclass that are used to do those jobs we do not want to do ourselves.
 
Addition to actual slaves we also have illegals in this countries working at those slave wage jobs. Using the description of "Undocumented Worker" simply avoids the use of "slavery to describe these people. I would bet that in most countries that are being invaded by illegal immigrants that they are making up a majority of the slave class your speak of.
Jeff Michka Added May 14, 2017 - 3:51pm
All; If this discussion goes on, maybe worth exploring the slavery in India and a few other places like PRC where basic slave labor "recycles" electronic for everything from precious metals to solder, even copper lands and traces on old circuit boards, which is then redone into iThis and iThat people line up for not caring about the human costs embedded in their expensive new toys.
Patrick Writes Added May 14, 2017 - 9:41pm
@john kirk, Nice misrepresentation of my comment. 
 
My point was to say people often take the easy way out. Sometimes young girls get themselves involved in the sex trade as a quick way out of poverty. But as many short cuts in life are, it's a hefty price to pay. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 15, 2017 - 9:26am
Nancy
 
I would bet that in most countries that are being invaded by illegal immigrants that they are making up a majority of the slave class your speak of.
 
Here in Switzerland we have different sorts of immigrants:
 
- Asylum seekers with fake ID's or no papers who declare coming from a country in war. Often that's not the case, but our Swiss authorities are too dumb to employ some of them to figure out if they come from the country they say. For example a Senegalese and a Congolese have completely different features and accents although they speak both French. Between the Congolese and the Cameroonians it's a bit more difficult but possible too. They get free shelter, food and about 10$ a day for pocket money. But they're NOT allowed to work until they are accepted as refugees - so the govt pays for them - often up to 6 months or more.
 
- Legal immigrants. But to be able to stay, you need a work permit, a person of trust who secures your stay until you work, no debts wherever, and a valuable address.
 
- Illegal immigrants which have received an invitation by a Swiss or a foreigner who has a valid residence permit, a job and an apartment. They come as tourists and often just stay.
 
But only a minority actually succeeds to even get a "slave job".
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 15, 2017 - 9:29am
Jeff
 
Valid point and quite well-known. But: iShit people don't really care about this. Most of our food, clothes and electronic gear is fabricated in the countries by slave labor, just as you say. If not it would NEVER be as cheap as it is....
Rex Added May 15, 2017 - 10:03am
Thank you Stone for the additional information . It is tragic that when illegals enter a country for the most part they are given a paid ride on the backs of the tax payer. Regardless of country. 
Jeff Michka Added May 15, 2017 - 11:58am
SEFa notes: But: iShit people don't really care about this. Most of our food, clothes and electronic gear is fabricated in the countries by slave labor, just as you say. If not it would NEVER be as cheap as it is...-In fact, when this topic about iThis and iThat being made with slave labor that are not only slaves but ill from what they do the "iShit" people...tech types (your 6 figure/stock option class) get down right angry and counter with how much better it is for these abused people to make 50 cents a day rather than nothing , lifting them out of the poverty of no income at all.  Hmmm.  Ain't it wonderful.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 15, 2017 - 2:42pm
Jeff
 
make 50 cents a day rather than nothing , lifting them out of the poverty of no income at all
 
Just like choosing between Trump and Clinton, ain't it LOL
 
Like the saying goes: You got no chance, but take it.
Jeff Michka Added May 15, 2017 - 4:53pm
make 50 cents a day rather than nothing , lifting them out of the poverty of no income at all Just like choosing between Trump and Clinton, ain't it LOL- I don't think its that good. :)
wsucram15 Added May 15, 2017 - 5:41pm
In every part of the world, the wealthy exploit the poor. I dont suppose any country that has people making profits off the labor of others could be the exception.
I agree with SEF, "You got no chance, but take it."  If you dont make something for yourself or fight for it..you will have nothing in this world.  Life is very hard.
Jeffry Gilbert Added May 16, 2017 - 4:22am
"The perfect dictatorship would have the appearance of democracy, a prison without walls in which the prisoners would not dream of escape. A system of slavery where, through consumption and entertainment, slaves would love their servitude." ​
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 16, 2017 - 8:16am
Jeffry
 
That one makes my day. It's actually the agenda now.
Jeffry Gilbert Added May 16, 2017 - 8:39am
I forgot attribution. Aldous Huxley. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added May 16, 2017 - 8:52am
Thanks !
Julius Fann Jr. jufa Added May 22, 2017 - 12:45pm
Bill Moyers interviews Douglas Blackmon, the Atlanta bureau chief of the WALL STREET JOURNAL, about his latest book, SLAVERY BY ANOTHER NAME, which looks at an "age of neoslavery" that thrived from the aftermath of the Civil War through the dawn of World War II
 
Watch the videos:�target="_blank" rel="nofollow nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/06202008/watch2.html

 
SLAVERY BY ANOTHER NAME  target="_blank" rel="nofollow nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/video/2365394530/