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Let's make America Great! How do we do that? First, let's piss off every ally we've had for the past 75 years by insisting they all are out to rob us blind, and they don't have the guts to fight terrorism the way we do. Next, let's make it way harder for others to come to the US by implementing half-baked bans against certain religions to enter this country (we have to be oh so careful to be politically correct and not call them bans or the namby-pamby courts will rule against us, as if they actually are a co-equal branch of government).


We can make America great by creating our own sense of reality, where only what we say is the truth. And we can convey that sense of reality directly to the American People (We do love the people. They voted for us hugely.) in our tweets. Someday the tweets we make will be the basis for a little red book like that Chinese guy used to have. Everyone will wave a copy around to show how much they adore us.


We can make America great by leaving a lot of these government positions empty. Who needs all of these folks anyway. I can fire all of the US attorneys and not nominate anyone to fill the slots, and no one will notice. And diplomats? Do we really need diplomats, except for our favorite countries?


We can make America great by showing America how great leaders work. Like this guy Duterte in the Philippines. Wonderful how he's leading by enabling those mobs to kill all of the druggies. Wish we could do something like that here.


We can make America great by cutting back on a bunch of silly spending. Why in the world do we need to invest in scientific research? What has science ever done for us? It's not like our lives are longer than they used to be because of medical research. Or how is it that we gained anything from research into solid state physics. What a waste of time and money! Losers, all of them. Can't wait to use my cell phone to post a tweet about not wasting money on basic research.


We can make America great by showing America how fake the media is. They won't acknowledge our greatness all the time, so they are fake. Fake, fake, fake. We'd be better off if everyone just used my twitter feed to learn all they need to know about the world. Boy, I wish they wouldn't keep asking those damn questions. Why do they keep harping on all of these things we did with our friends the Russians? You'd think they thought someone out there in the mid-west actually cared about selling out to the Russians. Love the mid-west. They voted for me when no one ever thought they would. Led to my huge electoral college victory. Biggest one ever for a Republican. Did you know I'm a Republican? I used to donate money to Democrats.


We can make America great by passing the biggest tax cut in history. I can get the Congress to do just what I want. Just give them the talking points and they take it from there. That's Leadership! We haven't had leadership in this country since Andrew Jackson. Tax cuts. Get rid of that stupid death tax. Do you know how much that would cost my children if we don't get rid of that? Of course, I plan on living a long time. Did you see how my doctor said that I had the best health of any President EVER! No, we can just keep cutting the taxes and watch the money pour in. I can see 5%, 6% growth coming just because of these tax cuts. Just watch and see.


We can make America great by getting rid of that terrible thing Obamacare. Just get rid of it and we'll have the greatest health care ever. Costs will go straight down. People won't have to spend money on insurance since we will get rid of the requirement to have it. Shoot, I'll just tell the IRS not to enforce the requirement. I can do that you know. I love to sign executive orders. I can get a huge crowd in the office just to hold one of these signing ceremonies. I love ceremonies. It's like a parade, only just in one room. Did you see the parade for my inauguration? Biggest Parade and the Biggest Crowd ever! And those executive orders. Sometimes I read them before I sign them. Sometimes not. But we're not going to cut Medicare or Social Security. That's my pledge to the American people.


We can make America great by getting us out of all of these agreements and treaties with other countries. We never do well in these things. Get taken advantage of bigley. Like that NAFTA thing. Or was that the NATO thing? Both of them - worst treaties ever. Tear them up, start over, we'll show them that you can't take advantage of the United States! Did you see about those children over in Syria? I showed them who's boss. Gave them a dose of Tomahawks! Just wait till that fat little punk in North Korea tries something. I'll show him. Of course, it's hard for a young kid to be running a country. I can understand why he's had to be tough with folks, shooting them with anti-aircraft rounds. I know I could stand on Fifth Avenue and shoot someone, and my supporters would cheer.


Whew! I'm sure glad that Donald Trump didn't get elected as President. What a horrible dream! Can you imagine someone thinking and acting like that? Wait. What's that you're saying? All of the things in my dream - they're real? And all have taken place in less than 5 months? And we have 3 years and 7 more months to go? Where is that alternate reality we were talking about? I think I'm gonna need to live there in order to stay sane.


Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 7, 2017 - 8:38pm
I think you have got it. The result of all of these Make America Great Again efforts will return the country to Federalism and a smaller government.  The states can choose to implement climate change or not.  The states can determine the details of achieving clean water, air, resources under their land.  The state can choose like Vermont single payer health insurance,  Romney care in Mass.,  and free market in Texas. 
The Constitution defines limited powers.  Sorry salutary local governments but the Constitution give immigration to the Federal government.   But you can take control of welfare and education and a whole lot more. 
That will Make America Great again because if a state does something that is a disaster then the citizens will vote with their feet and leave.  New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, etc. have shrinking populations while Texas, Florida, Wyoming, etc. have growing population.  The politicians maybe thick headed but eventually even the dullest person gets it after a while.   
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 7, 2017 - 8:40pm
PS a clock does not have that many parts.
William Stockton Added Jun 7, 2017 - 11:09pm
"Let's make America Great! How do we do that? First, let's piss off every ally we've had for the past 75 years by insisting they all are out to rob us blind"
This is why cucks like you don't win anymore.  Who care's about pissing off nations which have been riding the USA coat-tails for decades?  
Obviously, pussies like you do and I'm sure you still can get one of those nice pink hats to make yourself feel better.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 8, 2017 - 4:39am
Great stuff, that one. Made my day LOL
Stone-Eater Added Jun 8, 2017 - 4:42am
Deposed your humor at the front door ?
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 8, 2017 - 9:52am
Thomas - thanks for your comments. The clock came from a picture of a clock in Chernobyl. I thought it was good enough to be my avatar.
William - Sorry for your discomfort at having to fit in a world that has passed you by. Whether you believe it or not, the world does not end at the borders of this country, and those who wish it did, will find out that the world can get along just fine without us. We on the other hand, depend upon the world to keep the standard of living we've grown accustomed to.
If the world loses confidence in the US, and we lose our ability to be the reserve currency for the world, you would not believe the loss of purchasing power in our economy. Donald Trump is actively thumbing his nose at the rest of the world, and if this behavior continues, we will find out that being alone in an interdependent world is a horrible place to be. But I'm quite sure that people like you will cheer your race downhill to oblivion.
Billy Roper Added Jun 8, 2017 - 10:46am
Even a Broken Cock, William is correct. Many Americans are sick of having to feed our parasites.
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 8, 2017 - 11:48am
Billy, do you understand the concept of empire? How can you say that other nations are parasites on us when the opposite is the true case. We in the United States have by virtue of our military presence around the world, enabled US corporations and US financial hegemony to dominate western society. We pay through our defense funding, but we receive in return enormous benefits through being able to run trade deficits in perpetuity (seemingly). Do you realize how much benefit we have in having the world reserve currency?
Now if we are talking about scaling back some of our engagement with the rest of the world, that is a valid discussion and we should begin to take steps to do this. But to unilaterally declare everyone else in the world is just taking advantage of us, is not only short sighted and wrong, but will result in severe adverse consequences. You may see in Trump a grand fulfillment of campaign promises. I see a brontosaurus in a china shop (and a Germany shop and a Russia shop......).
Stone-Eater Added Jun 8, 2017 - 1:13pm
Donald Trump is actively thumbing his nose at the rest of the world, and if this behavior continues, we will find out that being alone in an interdependent world is a horrible place to be
I agree, seen from Europe. Anti-Americanism is on the rise, not only here but in other parts of the world too, as for example Africa and South America.
The head of a state is seen by most people as the one who represents the nation's POV (although not true). And Trump has become a comic figure on many media here. Means: We don't respect and appreciate the US as we once did years ago. We're only afraid of their irrationality, brute force and ruthlessness.
And you can't run an empire on fear for too long.
George N Romey Added Jun 8, 2017 - 1:20pm
World hegemony means we can do things other countries only dream about.  In the interim the quality of life in this country erodes for the bulk of its citizens.  The system becomes tilted to benefit the relatively few very lucky to begin with.  What we witnessed is a progression of decline.
First it was the textile workers.  These workers were on the bottom of the manufacturing scale.  Jobs were low pay and miserably boring and tedious.  At first no one seemed to care.  After its just low pay jobs in old factories.  Surely the workers would be able to get with the "new innovative production."  Then more higher levels production jobs left.  Then the professional jobs as the college degree and intellect capacity no longer meant a good stable job.  This trend has gone into overdrive since 2008.
Since 2009 we can point to what is full employment but the jobs being created today are low paid, part time or temporary.  We as a nation are going broke. Hegemony allowed us to buy cheap merchandise or endless credit.  Now the gig is just about up and there isn't much of an answer to the dilemma in front of us.
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 8, 2017 - 2:28pm
George and Stone - I agree with your comments. I know I was so fortunate to be flexible enough in my own employment career to go to three completely different types of work while working for a single employer. I enjoyed manufacturing and became somewhat of a manufacturing chauvinist. Alas, there does not seem to be a great desire now in the US to learn the skills to succeed in manufacturing as they do require substantially more mental ability than older manufacturing operations required.
As the trend towards AI accelerates, more and more low-skilled jobs will disappear from the economy. It will be tough for a society to succeed if the employment opportunity is only available to those who are one standard deviation above the mean IQ.
George N Romey Added Jun 8, 2017 - 2:34pm
AI will also take away the jobs of accountants, analysts, lawyers, etc.  By the time we hit near mid decade we are going to have a real problem with excess labor unless the developed world can refigure work.  The 40 hour standard for a full time job was developed over 80 years ago in the 1930s.  Think about how work has changed since then.
The very poor won't see huge changes.  Most live on family subsistence farming and aren't all that impacted by technology.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 8, 2017 - 5:44pm
Geo Romey claims:

The very poor won't see huge changes.  Most live on family subsistence farming and aren't all that impacted by technology.-Really? Where did you get this pipedream from, Geo?  Facts, numbers or cites?  You can cite, but why let it get in the way of a Geo argument, eh?

George N Romey Added Jun 9, 2017 - 8:26am
SEF can you tell this moron Mika that there are millions in Africa that live on subsistence farming and do not have robots doing their work.  There will always be desperate poor off the grid. 
Dino Manalis Added Jun 9, 2017 - 8:44am
Make America and its people as great as possible!
Jeff Michka Added Jun 9, 2017 - 1:24pm
Broken Clock:  Interesting article, and Trump has succeeded, he has made America Grate again.  Look at how annoyed SEFa is at the States, and you appear to have worked magic on Willy Stockpot and the retreaded elitist Geo Romey, now back with a job he can lord over others and "suitable" to his station in life.  Look at the SoS's "Upraised middle finger tour" he just took.  Would seem America Grateness has already returned.  Mission accomplished!
Stone-Eater Added Jun 9, 2017 - 2:22pm
SEF can you tell this moron Mika that there are millions in Africa that live on subsistence farming and do not have robots doing their work
George is right. And it's even worse than that. Criminal Bayer/Monsanto, Syngenta etc. cause millions of small farmers to lose even their little basic income. Once you are in the hands of them, you are FORCED to buy their seeds - each year again. Or - states get "agreements" with them, chase off the local farmers from their land, combine their parcelles to a BIG one and MAYBE reemploy those farmers for a "basic salary"...
Makes me even more mad when seeing that those criminal companies also have Swiss roots. As Nestlé and Syngenta.
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 9, 2017 - 2:54pm
Jeff - I am always in favor of a good homonym.  Even an ad hominem homonym.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 9, 2017 - 2:58pm
Make America Great Again.  I see as stop making America Europe.  Stop following behind the countries of Europe when we see the problems their actions have caused. 
Two lobbyist groups want open borders.  The oldest lobbyist are manufactures that see low cost labor without the problems of going to the sources.  Colonization was the method of going to the source of labor and natural resources.  But those countries realized they were being taken advantage of and kicked the Europeans out.  Those countries however, have many mouths to feed and want trained workers so they are happy to sent people to work in Europe.  The people are still citizens of the native country and send a portion of their income to relatives at home.  The key is this is still home.  They have not entered the 'melting pot'.    Once money and training are learned a portion return home to make the native country more advanced and prosperous.  A win win situation unless the want to impose their beliefs.  Islam teaches that the government is God's government and the rules are God's Rules and that all else and anyone that does not agree is are lesser humans. 
The second group are politicians that see these new members of their society more pliable and easier to use welfare to obtain their support.
Politicians wish to create a governing class that they can pass on to their children, but in a society where people vote the barriers they erect to separate people into classes will create resentment and thus loss of support.  They have two ways of retaining power.  The end of a gun or bribery.  Romans learned that welfare can purchase votes.  But they also realized that the mob gets comfortable with a level of welfare may consider it DUE TO THEM.   So the level of welfare is ever increasing and the rate of transfer ever also increasing.   Wealth transfer becomes more and more regressive, taxes, import duties, etc. increase until other thing must give way.  Infrastructure, development, education, and military.  
Rome opened it doors to the German invader and handed over to them a welfare system that grow out of control, the government.  Is that what Western Europe is doing today by letting Islam invade?   Is that what open borders and the suppression of Judaeo-Christian values doing in America?  
Make America great again requires making working more rewarding then receiving welfare.   That is it.  Very simple.  Transfer of wealth is detrimental to rewarding work.
It means supporting the Judaeo-Christian values that are presented in the Declaration of Independence and the founders put into the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  The Constitution is not a flexible or living document that can be change at the whim of temporary politicians, judges, or bureaucrats.   Judaeo-Christians define the Laws of Nature and Natures God that are eternal.  The foundation of Islam is the old Judaeo-Christian principles since Mohammad himself defined Jews and Christians as the people of the 'book'.   That book is the Laws of Nature and Natures God.   The governing portion of Islam,  within Islam religion and state are one in the same, is not is not shared by the three so is not fundamental.  To be part of the melting pot the principles in the founding document must take residence over all others.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 9, 2017 - 3:03pm
To be part of the melting pot the principles in the founding document must take precidence over all others.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 9, 2017 - 4:56pm
SEFa sez: Once you are in the hands of them, you are FORCED to buy their seeds - each year again. Or - states get "agreements" with them, chase off the local farmers from their land-Ol Geo never mentioned Africa or Asia, or I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID, HE JUST SAID "POOR" GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION NOT MENTIONED.  Geo goes on about poverty, and usually in a US context, Mainly his own. I guess becoming an elite again has widened his view of the world from Geo-centric (pun) to a more global perspective.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 9, 2017 - 5:00pm
Jeff M. who are THEM AND HE?
Stone-Eater Added Jun 9, 2017 - 6:30pm
Stop following behind the countries of Europe when we see the problems their actions have caused. 
WTF ??? The problems of Europe are American made. It's YOUR fucking war refugees we have to take care of. It's YOUR NATO buildup that could get the Russians attack us one day.
Stop talking bullshit from over there. Get over here and see reality, man.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 9, 2017 - 6:33pm
I have stopped explaining to an American (also to lots of Europeans) what happens there. They just shrug and ask me: Where is this and why ? I'm simply too tired after 25 years of explaining.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 9, 2017 - 7:12pm
BTW: It's a real pity that no one here understands German. This is a really EXCELLENT lecture about "democracy and manipulation". I can't find anything like it in English :-(
Learn German or find me something comparable in English please...
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 9, 2017 - 8:25pm
Europe is at least one decade a head of America in achieving the socialist goals.    Europe like America are applying Fabian Socialist methods.  
Jeff Michka Added Jun 9, 2017 - 8:32pm
The Sutrino asks: who are THEM AND HE?  Well maybe you ouht to read others' comments a tad closer, SEFa referred to "them" as Bayer/Monsanto, Syngenta, Nestle....the HE is Geo Romey, WB'S resident elitist and critic.  The HE makes a lot of blanket statements with shoddy definition, then rolls his eyes when someone doesn't get it quite right.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 9, 2017 - 9:00pm
Europe is at least one decade a head of America in achieving the socialist goals.    Europe like America are applying Fabian Socialist methods.  
Is that a reply from you to my comment ? Don't think so. If yes, it means you got no argument against it and change to generalities....
George N Romey Added Jun 10, 2017 - 10:30am
Its not a  "welfare thing."  Its a lack of "opportunity thing."   Social mobility in this country is dead and that's what is killing wealth creation and shoving the US into third world status.  The reasons are varied.  Some of its (as I have written) is the displacement being caused by technology.  Some of it is by greed from those at the top that see no value in social mobility.  When the CEO makes 350-400X the lower paid worker it sucks resources out of the company to innovate and expand.  Even in the good old days of the 50s-70s no one got rich by staying in the same job with merit raises.  They garnered wealth by career progression.
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 10, 2017 - 11:52am
George, the lack of opportunity does resonate with me. I just finished reading Elizabeth Warren's book and she does a good job showing how the changes in the economy coming from the Reagan years and the first application of trickle-down economics has led to the populist anger that resulted in Trump's election. My thoughts are that the anger felt among the populous was justified, the attempt to seek a solution by electing Trump was wrong and misguided.
Donald Trump embodied the famous American character, the con artist. Nowhere was that embodied better than his famous Trump University, a blatant attempt to cash in on his name and notoriety by preying on the hopes and dreams of those who were desperate to escape the monetary trap they found themselves in due to the collapse of opportunity in the economy. Unfortunately, Trump University was not the biggest con he has perpetuated. Trump Presidency is a far greater con job with a much larger potential to cause harm to this nation and to the world.
Tubularsock Added Jun 10, 2017 - 12:47pm
Clock, an excellent post. Well done. Made Tubularsock laugh several times. It is interesting how several responders can’t seem to grok the implications of Orange Tweet and his ignorant policies and views.
Tubularsock is still trying to figure out when America was great the first time let alone going BACKWARD toward it.
But don’t you worry, it’s down hill from here.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 10, 2017 - 1:03pm
What I do not understand is that Reagan created a booming economy with lower unemployment.  And that is clearly measured by the people of his time by winning 49 states to get re-elected.  Since 1900 he is the only president to come even close.  George H. Bush road his coat tails into office, but Bush following the old GOP approach fell off those coat tails quickly.   Except for George W. Bush he is the only president to have more electoral votes to get re-elected.  GWB was so close to even that one could only win re-election by tying or getting more votes, not a spectacular win but better then the first.  So the only thing I can conclude is that people tag Reagan with the actions of the preceding GOP presidents the Bushes.  They did not follow the policies of Reagan. 
I see the populist anger because the preceding presidents did not continue Reagan's policies.  Trump's took "Make America Great Again" from Reagan.  He ran on Reagan's platform.  He painted the glowing city on the hill image.  
Reagan's "trickle-down economics" is straight classic Liberal economics that was practiced in America for 150 years with great success. 
Welfare is "trickle-down economics" also, money is transferred from the rich tax payers to the poor.  As the Democrats say the rich should pay their far share and that share trickles down (after they skim a big portion off) to the poor.
It is how any economy works.   So it is a stupid meaningless statement.
Now this is more tripe, "Donald Trump embodied the famous American character, the con artist. "   The facts point to Hillary Clinton far more accurately then Donald Trump.  The non-government email that handled government business.  The personal server so that she and her staff could do Clinton Foundation work.  The outrageous speaking fees that the Clinton Foundation were paid clearly were not for speaking.  The were for access to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and the heiress  apparent to Obama. 
John Minehan Added Jun 10, 2017 - 2:34pm
"Why in the world do we need to invest in scientific research?"
Why should the federal government be funding it?  Government's role would be to create a legal framework for protecting intellectual property.   
Barath Nagarajan Added Jun 10, 2017 - 4:13pm
" Why in the World do we need to invest in scientific research"
   North Korea will soon be able to to hit Washington D.C. with a nuclear armed ICBM. They say they are making great advances in their science and technology. It was just yesterday when they were learning nuclear physics to learn how to build a weapon.
     We are now able to shoot down an ICBM with an ABM (missile) system. We're making great advances in technology.
   Think of all the money invested in this arms competition. Wasted really. It's only necessary because we can't trust each other.
   When people are basically honest and fair you hardly need government at all, and almost any form of government works.
   The basis of civilization is ethics, not science. Teach people to believe in honesty and fairness so that people and nations can trust each other and the World would actually advance.
Barath Nagarajan Added Jun 10, 2017 - 4:34pm
    America has the highest per Capita incarceration rate in the world and we're the most technologically advanced country in the world. Science is the answer right? Not religion or ethics.
George N Romey Added Jun 10, 2017 - 5:31pm
Barath too many people with too many agendas. We are no better than the animal kingdom when it comes to living together.
Tubularsock Added Jun 10, 2017 - 5:34pm
Except George, in general, the animal kingdom usual doesn't kill for sport.
George N Romey Added Jun 10, 2017 - 6:39pm
The problem is that Trump is still stuck in the 1980s.   He doesn't even use email. He assumes if you give tax breaks companies will expand in the US and hire.  But what he doesn't understand is that new factories will employ far less than 30 years ago.  Even in the office part of the factory fewer white collar professionals are needed.  He doesn't have the ability to understand the complex big picture and offers solutions that would have only worked decades ago.  He doesn't comprehend skills mismatch.  He sees solutions in the most simplest of terms.
During the campaign he spoke in very vague but simple terms.  Make America Great but never articulated how other than general strategy that is dubious in the 21st century.  Now Trump his fighting battles on all sides by forces out to neuter him.  He's in over his head. Unfortunately he doesn't have the wherewithal to pivot.  He believes that dog determination will eventually win out like it did 20 years ago for him.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 10, 2017 - 6:39pm
Thomas the fascist writes "Make America great again requires making working more rewarding then receiving welfare.   That is it.  Very simple.  Transfer of wealth is detrimental to rewarding work." 
Must be why Trump only gave tax breaks to the upper middle class and rich. Sure as Hell takes a lot of HARD HARD HARD work to go from welfare to wealthy. The obvious message Trump is sending is that it's more rewarding and more doable in the real world to just stay on welfare than to shoot for the virtually impossible with zero help or incentives to get out of poverty. Typical idiotic elitist capitalist fascist bullshit propaganda from Thomas as to be expected. 
Tubularsock Added Jun 10, 2017 - 8:08pm
Even to like Reagan you have to have Alzheimer. 
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 10, 2017 - 9:32pm
George - I'm thinking we may be kindred souls. You said:  "The problem is that Trump is still stuck in the 1980s.   He doesn't even use email. "
I may push back his frame of reference to the 1970's. One thing that I have personally against Donald Trump goes back to his involvement in the USFL. At that time, I was a young professional in Memphis with season tickets to the Memphis Showboats. We got to see a young Reggie White directly out of college before his All-Pro days in Green Bay. Thanks to Donald Trump deciding unilaterally that he could win a lawsuit against the NFL, he convinced the league to file anti-trust legislation against the NFL and change the season from a spring-summer season to a head-to-head fall competition against the NFL.  Needless to say, the competition was lost, but the lawsuit was one. We waited with baited breath to see how the USFL would seize victory from the jaws of defeat. The answer? The USFL was awarded damages of $1.00. Since it was an anti-trust suit, the damages were tripled to $3.00.
The USFL never even opened for the next season, and for that I blame Donald Trump. See, my dislike came honestly and was based upon my own economic perspective, that is, not having access to decent professional football merely because a New York elite misread economic trends and trashed an entire football league due to his own vanity and personal considerations. I do not see any change in his behavior since the early 1980's.
George N Romey Added Jun 11, 2017 - 9:00am
People should remember Trump's fortunes were derived from marketing his name.  Essentially he is one huge PR firm.  Many of his actual businesses were disasters.  His weaknesses are showing.  He is in well over his head with enemies everywhere.  He had great slogans and very general easy answers on the campaign trail but never realized our government by design is complex and difficult.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 11, 2017 - 9:13am
Jenifer F., wealth transfer by welfare is detrimental.  Transfer does not require doing something to earn the wealth.  

I have not seen a bill that has reached Trump's desk that gives tax breaks to the upper middle class.  Please tell us the bill number, title, and the date it arrived?  I accept your complaint and you are just one voice.  And it should be know that you are responding to a comment that is about an exert from a draft or proposal about a tax bill.  Without the whole thing you have no idea what other tax breaks were mentioned.  Neither do I.  

Your speculating, guessing.  Thus all the analysis is also speculation or about speculation.   I hope our speculation reaches the ears of the legislators that will have to vote on a tax bill.

John G.  your correct employment went up so unemployment went down.  And that is why the union members in states that voted Democrat put Reagan Back in office.  They voted their pocket book that had money from pay checks.  Tubularsock, I guess the American voters did not see the on set of Alzheimer when he ran for re-election and swept the electoral college vote far better then and Democrat could dream about.  

George N. R., tells us new factories will employ far less then 30 years ago.  But no factory, George, will employ far less then the new factory and even farther less then the old factories.   I take less over none, don't you?

Trump and Reagan basically said making America great again means putting them back to work.  Now Trump can and did point to Reagan's greater America.  As I said he ran on Reagan's campaign platform.   At least George that is what I saw, and I think a lot of other people also.

Even a Broken Clock, and George N., R,  have you thanked Hillary Clinton, DNC, and all the media moguls including Fox News and Sean Hannity for Trump being the RNC candidate?
We could have had Ted Cruz.    
So they backed Trump because even Hillary could win against Trump in the general election.  They stayed with that understanding until the vote count proved them wrong.
George N Romey Added Jun 11, 2017 - 9:26am
Thomas of course I'd take one new factory over another.  The point is that opening a factory today won't employ the same number of people that a new factory would have 30 years ago.  So the bigger question is how to expand and innovate the economy so that more factories open.
Admittedly I and many others don't have simple answers to an increasing world order in which the human effort will be needed less and less from accountants to farmers.  However, we do know that we are becoming more and more economically insecure as the number of good jobs dry up and families and human beings pay the toll. 
Stone-Eater Added Jun 11, 2017 - 10:13am
We could have had Ted Cruz.  
Amen LOL
Bernie would have been the one. The youth voted overwhelmingly for him. Bug those old assholes in power don't consider the youth anyway in reality. They think: I've had my time, fuck future.
John Minehan Added Jun 11, 2017 - 10:21am
Title sounds like the old British Army Command: "Pass! Into! Quick! Time!
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 11, 2017 - 10:22am
Incidentally my statements about Trump's tax cut plans come directly from his election commercials (tax cuts only for those making +$60,000). Was he lying? 
George N Romey Added Jun 11, 2017 - 10:28am
SEF the Democratic Party will never allow a Sanders candidate.  Running as an Independent is nearly impossible and too many Americans are still addicted to one of the two parties, for what reason I do not know.
I've said before that the GOP never took the threat of Trump seriously until it was too late.  They assumed he would eventually self implode so they didn't play the dirty tricks that the Democrats did on Sanders.  When suddenly Trump looked like he was going to win the nomination the party trotted out the regulars like Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham that only fanned the flames for Trump.   Then the GOP establishment assumed Trump would lose the general election and they set their sites on the House and Senate to block President   HRC.  But in the end Trump was the victor. 
And no, old rich white dudes do not care about the young, particularly the ones not from wealthy families struggling with too many low paying jobs and mounds of student loan debt.
The Objective Observer Added Jun 11, 2017 - 11:56am
Trump has done a good job on terror. He has brought the Arab nations together to fight terror. You can see this in their dealings with Qatar. That is a direct result of Trump.
Trump was correct in calling NATO nations to the carpet for not meeting their commitments. That's what leaders do, they do not shy away from hard conversations.
Trump made a fantastic Supreme Court pick.
Trump was correct in pulling out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, dismantling Obama-era regulations and ending our participation in the Paris climate agreement. All economic decisions to end things that put an unfair economic burden on the United States.
Trump is putting into action plans to help vets, privatize air traffic control, tax cuts and fix broken health care. Those are all good things.
Trump is actually leading. Before Trump, we just had Obama bending over and taking it from every country on the planet.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 11, 2017 - 4:02pm
George N. R., we can not go back 30 years, however, technology has made it easier to make more thing thus more jobs.  I see less cost in making things means more thing more wealth on this planet.  Less labor growing food and better harvest will me healthier people world wide.  Technology of the internet means the world can not be educated to be more productive.  Better jobs and more of them.
Jenifer, we all have selective listening.  So what I hear is not exactly what you hear.  I did not pick up on that distinction.  He is going to reduce the taxes on the wealthy so they create jobs.  But I understood that he is going to reduce the taxes on the workers because without doing both his objective of jobs will not happen.   The Reagan platform that is the foundation of Trump's campaign and the past presidents that have had similar platforms including John Kennedy and Calvin Coolidge all knew as Trump does that money spent by the people grows the economy.    And taxes takes away that money to be spent poorly by government.   Jenifer that is backed up by performance of the economy.  
George the DNC would never allow a Sanders as their candidate and they put the rules of the party together after the 2012 election to prevent a Sanders.    Now will the Democratic voters allow a Sanders is another thing.  With the purchasing of votes with welfare and the stuffing of registered voters from open borders (tactics as old as Rome) they knew they were close to achieving monopoly status for the Democratic Party.  As more of their voters were educated in socialism or came from socialist countries they would vote for a socialist.   Socialism the DNC was to risky so they would have to wait until the Constitution was completely dismantled.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 11, 2017 - 4:08pm
You are crazy if you seriously think the Democratic Party wants socialism. They are hard capitalists, neoliberals. That's one of the reasons they rigged the primarys for Hillary Clinton. 
George N Romey Added Jun 11, 2017 - 5:25pm
The Democratic Party is the party of Wall Street.  Wall Street has never identified with social and religious conservatives. 
Bill H. Added Jun 11, 2017 - 5:39pm
Do some research with real sources and you will find that the economy historically does better under Democrats than Republicans time after time. Here is a good reliable link. This includes the GDP, less quarters in recession, employment rate, stock market performance, and personal income rate increases.
Those who have been around for some years and are not stuck under the control of a particular party will know for sure this is true.
And no, I am not a Democrat.
George N Romey Added Jun 11, 2017 - 5:53pm
Bill I'd say for the most part its been true but the Democratic Party abandoned its working class roots.  Now in the 60s and 70s the party wanted to be more aligned with social liberals which tended to be better educated and in more professional jobs.  However, over time the Democratic Party strayed into the hands of the rich elites.  Bill Clinton for all his faults still pushed an agenda that was good overall for the average American.  However by Obama the party had been nearly overtaken with corporate and Wall Street interests.  Thus the surge of a candidate like Sanders more tied to the party's traditional worker roots.
As tough as it would have been if Obama had pursued an agenda of the American people instead of Wall Street in 2009 we might have a different election result.  The truth is that Obama had the chance to either bail out the American public or the big banks and chose the banks.  My sense is that there is coming a huge fight for the soul and purpose of the Democratic Party.
Bill H. Added Jun 11, 2017 - 8:31pm
The era of GWB was rough seas for sure. We are still trying to recover.
Even A Broken Clock Added Jun 11, 2017 - 11:49pm
George and Bill - good comments. I just finished Hillbilly Elegy and would recommend that to anyone who has not yet read it. J.D. Vance captures the angst of the working classes who have felt abandoned and neglected by both political parties, and thus were ripe to be coopted by the populist pretense from Trump.
It is true that the economy has performed better under Democratic leadership than Republican, but since the 1980's, that did not correspond to increases in the median income. And as any statistician will tell you, when you have a large tail in a population distribution, like we have in the US with income distribution, the average can deviate significantly from the median. The outsize incomes from the top tier of the income strata raise the average far above what the majority of the nation experience. Finally they have caught on to the charade and voted for someone who at least addressed their concerns. That this individual is perfidious and never had a real intent of addressing their concerns is something that they will eventually become aware of, and then the real anger will resound through this nation. It will not be a pretty sight.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 12, 2017 - 8:19am
Jenifer, really?, "You are crazy if you seriously think the Democratic Party wants socialism. They are hard capitalists, neoliberals. That's one of the reasons they rigged the primarys for Hillary Clinton."  "Neoliberalism is more about laissez faire economics, so economically it is very similar to classical liberalism."  Clasical liberalism means Adam Smith, Constitution, John Lock, and Reagan which we know Reagan has been the nemesis of the Democratic Party.  
I think the rejection of Sanders a tactic, Jenifer.  FDR is the Icon of the party.  "Whittaker Chambers had a secret. He had worked in the American Communist underground for most of the 1930s. His ... unique writing talent earned him a place at Time magazine, where he eventually rose to be one of its senior editors. ... In 1939, with the outbreak of WWII, Chambers decided he needed to inform the FDR administration of what he knew about those currently working in the underground. ... Chambers finally realized the administration was apathetic to the traitors in its midst, he had to reassess what he knew of FDR and his policies. In his classic autobiography, Witness, he describes how this rebuff affected him:
And with astonishment I took my first hard look at the New Deal. . . . All the New Dealers I had known were Communists or near-Communists. None of them took the New Deal seriously as an end in itself. They regarded it as an instrument for gaining their own revolutionary ends."
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 12, 2017 - 8:50am
Now this is bordering on a ly.  "It is true that the economy has performed better under Democratic leadership than Republican, but since the 1980's,"   Reagan became president in 1981 and left in 1988.  So the first year was under Carter and we were in a deep recession.  We also can add 8 years under Obama and his recession that he left for Trump.  So here is a comparison, "The tepid growth rate so far in 2015 merely extends the track record of the 23 quarter post-Great Recession recovery. The annualized growth rate of 2.24 percent dead last compared to the six other recoveries since 1960, which averaged 3.97 percent after 23 quarters. This translates into nearly $1.7 trillion (in constant 2009 dollars) in absent economic growth.
But the more amazing comparison is that of the Reagan—which trounces this current so called recovery. That recovery’s sizzling 4.8 percent annualized growth through 23 quarters was more than twice the rate of the current recovery. In other words, for every $1 of economic growth experienced during the present time, the Reagan recovery produced more than $2. As a result, the Reagan recovery gap now stands at a record $2.48 trillion of real annual GDP (in 2009 dollars). The economy is now more than 15 percent smaller than it would have been with Reagan style growth." ref: Fox News "How Obama’s Recovery Compares to Reagan’s Recovery"
Stephen Moore / Joel Griffith / May 03, 2015
"The Reagan recovery started in official records in November 1982, and lasted 92 months (7.7yrs) without a recession until July 1990, when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it. (Bush did not follow Reagan's solutions and lost re-election because of that) ... In The End of Prosperity, supply side guru Art Laffer and Wall Street Journal chief financial writer Steve Moore point out...,
"We call this period, 1982-2007, the twentyfive year boom–the greatest period of wealth creation in the history of the planet. In 1980, the net worth–assets minus liabilities–of all U.S. households and business … was $25 trillion in today’s dollars. By 2007, … net worth was just shy of $57 trillion. Adjusting for inflation, more wealth was created in America in the twentyfive year boom than in the previous two hundred years." Ref:
Now yes Democrat President Bill Clinton because of New Gingrich and the Contract with America could not fall back to the Keynesian economic playbook, he did not harm the economy.  And Pres. Bush Jr.  followed in his fathers foot steps and did fall back to the Keynesian economic play book.  
So I count 2 yr Carter, 8 yr Obama as failures and  8 yr Clinton success for the Democrats.   4 yr Bush, 8 yr Bush Jr,  as failures  and 8 yr Reagan success.   A technical Democratic win.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 12, 2017 - 8:58am
I listed Pres Bush senior as a failure but he only cause a decline to the level of that Pres Clinton receives so the decline is not a recession so not a failure.  Thus I did make an error.  4 yr of Bush join 8 yrs of Reagan.  I also assumed a one year shift for all presidents and assumed Trump first year due to the shift did not happen.  
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2017 - 11:21am
George N Romey Added Jun 12, 2017 - 11:57am
Bill Presidents have limited ability to impact the economy and the job market. The best they can do is work with Congress to provide a stable environment in which Americans are confident and business sees the benefit of expansion.
However we are now in a world in which companies use cash to buy back stock, make acquisitions and pay huge C level salaries. In turn more concentration in industry hurts smaller businesses, the primary driver of jobs.
We need a leader that will limit the harm of huge corporations while giving small businesses a fair shot at success.
Thomas Sutrina Added Jun 12, 2017 - 2:18pm
The fortune article  Bill H. is not in conflict with what I cited.  Clinton did not have to deal with a recession so having better result is expected.   And as George point our Congress can play a part and we know the Gingrich House of Representative brought back some of the Reagan solutions.  So Clinton can not take full credit.
The second article starts before 1980 which is the stated starting point of the initial comment.   And there is no way to separate them.  I need to recall that we were the only standing economy standing without war damage when Truman took office.  So we should have great GDP growth.  Europe and Japan and then the rest of Asia did not come close to being competitive until the 70's if not the 80's for much of Asia.   So it skews the results.  Useless for the comparison. 
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2017 - 3:59pm
I will agree that with both parties being as screwed up as they are these days, the historical data I cited no longer applies. Until we have a party that will work to restore true economic balance between profits, pricing, wages, and CEO compensation levels, we will continue to slide down.
wsucram15 Added Jun 13, 2017 - 1:35pm
Even a Broken Clock great article and it was a good book.
BillH..most likely correct, but those things with what George said. got it and this is a huge problem. The solutions I have seen offered up are very disheartening unless you are very educated.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 17, 2017 - 6:15pm
Even a BC sez: George and Bill - good comments. I just finished Hillbilly Elegy and would recommend that to anyone who has not yet read it. J.D. Vance captures the angst of the working classes who have felt abandoned and neglected by both- Wow and you didn't get a ration of crap about it like I did.  Question: what else did you get out of Elegy That is spot on with all this discussion.  Oddly I found Vance's mom being a junkie hand in hand with today's "hillbillys."  The opiate problem is their problem right now. Thought his description of being socially unprepared were also pointed and germaine to discussion about what we do with coal miners and steelworkers today.  Despite the desire to their parts to remain untrained and uneducated, since computer programming isn't "identity"  work.