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I wonder - again.


I've got that friend who has it all, so it seems. He earns about 5'000 $ a month, has 2 cars and "god" knows how many friends of any gender that's available today. Always neatly dressed up to the latest fashion (actually he's 20 years younger than me, so....), he's able to talk to absolutely anybody from beggar to politician, and he's got a gorgeous girlfriend because of that.


Then he tells me he's on anti-depressiva.


Huh ?


"You know, I think something is missing."


"What ?"


"Not sure. Human warmth."


"How d'you figure that ?"


"Well, you see, I can buy almost anything I want except a plane (LOL), but ..... something is missing. I mean, I know you work for and in Africa, and you don't give a damn about material security, but I do. One day I will be old, and then I want to feel secure and not having to beg or being put out of society."


"Ok. I understand that. But tell me: Are you really LIVING today or are you functioning ?"


"How d'you mean that ?"


"I mean, do you take the time to think about what you're doing despite earning all that and being not happy with it ? And WHY you're not happy with it ?"


"Well, you see, I work all day, I've got obligations, expectations, I have responsabilities...."


"Hang on. You got no kids, right ?"


"Not yet, because I wouldn't have the time for them."


"Ah-huh. So when you'd work less, you'd have the time ?"




"So what's the problem ? Your girl wants some, right ?"


"Yep. Me too, in fact. But she has a good paying job too and wants to wait."


"Ok. You WAIT. You see, that's the problem."


"Why ? Waiting means having thoughts about what one does."


"Yep. But waiting can also mean missing LIFE. What's really important for our lives can't be bought with money. And I'm sure that you won't have a life of memories to share with your kids and see how life grows. Because you had no time. And you will look back and think: "I have missed so much, I wanted to do when I was younger. But career and money sucked me in. And now it's too late.""


" I mean YOU didn't make a career. You missed all the nice things I have. The comfort, the security."


"I know. I decided not to. Exactly for that reason. To have time for myself and my kids. That's what life is for. To be born, grow up, learn and teach your kids the best you can. Not to be able to buy no-matter-what and forget what life IS."


He sat back and thought about it while I left.


George N Romey Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:17pm
SEF it has always amazed me people born rich or lucky that are just miserable in life.  My belief is that if they were poor for a couple of months they'd likely change their tune. I think happiness is a combination of the inside and external factors.
Let them spend a couple of months worrying about how they were going to feed themselves or pay the rent.  They'd quickly sing a different tune.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:21pm
Whenever I went to Africa for some weeks I was asked by friends if they could come along because I told them no rent, just share food and transport.
They changed quite a lot, even in 2 weeks. All of them were deeply impressed by the way people interact and live with each other socially, without all the crutches we need to get some self-confidence LOL
Michael B. Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:30pm
This reminds me of the poem "Richard Cory", by Edwin Arlington Robinson
Whenever Richard Cory went down town,
We people on the pavement looked at him:
He was a gentleman from sole to crown,
Clean favored, and imperially slim.
And he was always quietly arrayed,
And he was always human when he talked;
But still he fluttered pulses when he said,
'Good-morning,' and he glittered when he walked.
And he was rich - yes, richer than a king -
And admirably schooled in every grace:
In fine, we thought that he was everything
To make us wish that we were in his place.
So on we worked, and waited for the light,
And went without the meat, and cursed the bread;
And Richard Cory, one calm summer night,
Went home and put a bullet through his head.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:30pm
BTW: You're right. But you see, being poor in the West does not make someone being empathic and social. Here you're an outcast which will find his only contacts by other people in the gutter. I KNOW.
When you're poor in a majority of poors you will notice a necessary solidarity to survive. When you're poor in a minority, you won't experience neither solidarity nor acceptance.
But my point is not poverty. It's merely getting values right. Because, when you get old, all you have left is memories and a look back. When you can say you won't be forgotten as a good guy, you'll be calm. A house and a car will crumble, but not your kids and the people and their kids you knew.
That's what I call "life after death" ;-)
Jeffrey Kelly Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:45pm
I enjoyed it, Stone-Heart.  It's true, money doesn't guarantee happiness.
George N Romey Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:47pm
SEF which is a shame why so many companies shun older workers.  When you hit your 50s you have life experience. You have far more tolerance to deal with different people, understand points of view, and communicate in a mentorship way.  The greatest influences my work life were 57, 55 and 60.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:58pm
Fits perfectly ! Good one, really.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 1:59pm
Thanks for the nick ;-) I guess only a natural desaster or a global power crash will get us back into a balance of the two.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:03pm
I was also a victim of age, but when I was 45, not 59 as now. But I said to myself: Hey, I don't need much, fuck you. I can do it without your mercy ;-)
wsucram15 Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:07pm
Ive had it both ways...I like having money no doubt.  But I was just as happy without it.  It makes things difficult, but I have always had what I needed (not necessarily what I wanted) to get by.
I have had a good life, I cannot complain and often w/o money.  So money is not a guarantee of anything. You can have plenty of happiness in the simplest of ways. 
Michael B. Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:12pm
Stone, that poem was an assignment in an English Literature class I had where we had to analyze various poems and short stories. I remember the debate being very lively as to exactly why "Richard Cory" killed himself. The next year, in another English Lit class where we had to write, produce and act in a play, some other dude in the class obviously used the poem as an inspiration for his work; in his case, it was about a Wall Street trader. I bet a lot of people would like to see more Wall Street types kill themselves, lol.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:16pm
You can have plenty of happiness in the simplest of ways. 
Yep. But it's almost impossible to get that into our last 3 generations ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:18pm
I bet a lot of people would like to see more Wall Street types kill themselves, lol.
Actually I wouldn't kill them. I'd get them off to Sudan or Somalia by themselves and drop them off in a small village ;-)
George N Romey Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:18pm
Money at some point begins to wane in what it can provide you.  One can only enjoy so many homes, boats, expensive dinners out.  Moreover, its hard work keeping wealth up.  Most wealthy people would love to take a year off and hike the world but at least feel they can't.
The pathology of the super rich isn't the money, its the game, the competition, the winner.  If a peer buys another $2 million yacht you must too.  If your neighboring castle/mansion owner sends his/her child to an exclusive grade school that costs $50K a year you must too.  If a competing gulf player at the exclusive golf club makes a killing on the market you must too.  If a CEO at a competitor got $25 million last year you need $30 million to show him/her up.
This is why so many of these people or their family members are miserable.  Rather than enjoy and appreciate the immense pleasures, comfort and experiences their wealth can give them they are caught in this never ending battle where there is never enough.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:19pm
BTW: I'm dead sure people there would share the little they have with him. They wouldn't let him die.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:40pm
I disagree with you however when you have children you have an obligation to them to go out and make the most of your working experience
I didn't mean that. I only told my friend to try to get a balance between what's necessary for a life and what not. People, if kids or grown-ups, need affection and assurance and advice and appreciation. These all are immaterial things.
For example: You can cook a healthy meal together with your kids while chatting, or you can give them McShit and sit them in front of the TV.
When you ask them years later what they will remember - what do you think it is ? ;-)
Michael B. Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:41pm
A line from the 1960 movie Psycho:
Tom Cassidy: You know what I do about unhappiness? I buy it off. Are, uh, are you unhappy? [waving around his $40,000] Now, that's, that's not buying happiness. That's just buying off unhappiness.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:44pm
Most wealthy people would love to take a year off and hike the world but at least feel they can't.
That's what I wondered all my life. Habit ? Insecurity ? A feeling that without them nothing goes ? Probably. Overestimation of the self.
Dino Manalis Added Jun 15, 2017 - 2:58pm
Happiness is both internal and external, we all have problems, some far more than others, but we all need to find a way to deal with problems before they overwelm us.  Stay happy; healthy; and strong!
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:07pm
Pretty general, that one, but thanks.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:14pm
If McMunch helps you in spending quality time with your children, why not?
Because it makes them sick. And an unhealthy body can't be at ease mentally.

I know what you are trying to say, but children develop all sorts of complexes if parents cannot give them the same things as their friends have
I know. I've got enough kids....but that's a period from 10 to 15 to my experience. You have to explain according to age, not force them. And when you succeed in leading them to develop their own personality by understanding (and REMEMBER how you were when you were that age), they will be much more critical to what others do - and not simply copy.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:20pm
BTW: I did it by introducing them into music, by playing guitar with my youngest, by posting videos on youtube, by learning smileys and youth talk and by trying not to be angry that she goes to the concert of Justin Bieber tonite here in Zurich ;-)
At 9 she was listening to Indie Rock, and now to Justin Bieberlake. What the fuck have I been doing wrong ? Nothing. It's the age of becoming a woman. Boyfriends. Hormons. Sometimes talk is not possible, but rarely.
I tell myself: I was the same. Fuck parents, I know better. It's a part of letting go and becoming yourself.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:22pm
BTW: We get along perfectly. Her daddy is cool she says. That's very important to me. Means I do a good job up to now :-)
wsucram15 Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:40pm
Hey I love the pic.
mark henry smith Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:42pm
Stone, you are amongst the luckiest of men.
I had money. I had a rich babe. I thought I was happy, getting sucked every other day, like an RV getting hooked up at the dumping station in some such fashion, that was about the level of our passion.
And in the end, she showed she was just in it for the money, and funny, I thought I was too, making her pay me to go away.
I was gonna use that money to build a new life, find a new home, find a new wife, a lady who would fulfill all my dreams. Found a 27 year old who made my ears steam. But came home to take care of mom.
I lost everything. $97 to my name. That's it.
My God I was happy on that bike with nothing except a few bucks in my pocket wondering what I'd find to get me through. Not knowing where I'd put my head at night, but I was never blue. The struggle to make it was like a drug of eternal craving, not knowing how long I could keep this up before my bubble of optimism started caving.
It never did. You just keep going, being good, doing good, knowing that's all you can do until you die.
That's the problem with these rich people. Despite all the wealth, they don't know that they're doing good in this world.
Love and peace, Stone
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:46pm
I put it up for you :-)
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 3:53pm
But came home to take care of mom.
What more can I say ... ? You know what I mean.
That's the problem with these rich people. Despite all the wealth, they don't know that they're doing good in this world.
Sorry...can't get that one. Most rich I know (not very many, agreed) are assholes. They wouldn't get 10'000 $ out of their pocket for projects which would help whole communities (and ease the refugee problem) to survive, although they have a seven digit bank account.
Rich people are NEVER rich because they care. Otherwise they wouldn't be.
Easy as that.
Micahel Dolan Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:04pm
Life can be a Bitch-Life is an unpredictable process. I have dealt with people since I was 9 years old. My mom and dad owned a candy store in the Bronx NY and I was the weekend newspaper boy who had to put all the sections together.
I listened to the grown ups and I realized each day their were happy- days their were unhappy days. Life is but a dream its what you make it.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:13pm
Here in Switzerland we say: The way you call up to the mountains the way they call back (echo). And it's true. You arrive with a smile - and people will (mostly) smile too. At least that's my experience.
Mircea Negres Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:17pm
Nice post, Stone-Eater.
I never look down on the poor or look up to the rich. A guy on the street asks me for money, I say "Sorry brother, but I'm unemployed". He ain't my brother, but we are in the same boat, and that's grounds to call it a brotherhood if not much else.
As for happiness, sometimes it's like this quote from the movie City Slickers:
Curly: Do you know what the secret of life is?
[holds up one finger]
Curly: This.
Mitch: Your finger?
Curly: One thing. Just one thing. You stick to that and the rest don't mean shit.
Mitch: But, what is the "one thing?"
Curly: [smiles] That's what *you* have to find out.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:20pm
A guy on the street asks me for money, I say "Sorry brother, but I'm unemployed".
Same here. And not even a joke. I work benevol in a State program until I quit in November.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:22pm
But, what is the "one thing?"
Persistence. Yep, agree. Always the same finger. Someday you'll get there. True.
Mircea Negres Added Jun 15, 2017 - 4:52pm
Stone-Eater, the rich are blase about poverty because they can afford to be. If they ever experience it, they'll see that it's not a joke. So, no, we don't joke about it, you and I. Sometimes persistence pays off. Sometimes it doesn't. But if you don't at least try, you won't even have a chance, never mind hope. This is some of what I tell myself, and I keep writing... I sent you an e-mail with four attachments. I hope you'll find that series informative. Just bear in mind it's about South Africa, so it will apply to this country, not the entire continent... 
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:02pm
Thanks. I'll check it. I know that SA is not the whole of Africa, but all countries have a similar history somewhat....I'll get back to it. PS: I'm on minds.com now as well. But so far not even one read ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:03pm
But if you don't at least try, you won't even have a chance, never mind hope
The worst would be to admit when you're old: I've never tried really....
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:08pm
....ok. It's there. Gimme time to read....;-)
Mircea Negres Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:19pm
Take your time. I'll send you some stuff next Friday.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:20pm
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 5:21pm
Gotta print it out at the office. I don't like to read good stuff on the screen when I need to concentrate !
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 15, 2017 - 6:17pm
I believe everyone defines happiness differently. For me it's neither about survival or material things. Having $ to pay the bills and survive is of course essential, but having or not having it is not a indication of happiness, it's just a need like water or air.
Materialistic things fall into the one of the three "Ps" pleasure, power, or profit. None of these things bring happiness only temporary gratification.
To me happiness on the small scale is having a family, my kids and husband, their love and companionship is happiness. On the large scale happiness to me is fighting (& success) at making the world a better place for now and future generations.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 15, 2017 - 6:19pm
I have to add I'm glad I got married at 21, and started having kids at 23 instead of waiting (tell when and for what, a message from God perhaps?). I have a good career and and middle class, not rich, but again materialistic things only matter to greedy and immature shortsighted people who don't understand what real happiness to healthy people is. 
George N Romey Added Jun 15, 2017 - 8:00pm
SEF seems as though you have taken your blessing in life and made the best of it.  Notice the number of uber poor that are so much happier than some of the 1%.  Jenifer you are a very, very smart individual.  We need more people like you.  Not today's garden variety that only understands what's posted on FB and a number on a spreadsheet.  Keep speaking up, the world needs you.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 8:15pm
To me happiness is having families and friends all over the world. The fact that I can board a plane and find loved ones in Africa, Europe or wherever.
I see myself as a world citizen, and if I can have the feeling to be welcomed wherever I go to, that's enough for me.
I know I will live on in the memories of people independent of race or culture, that makes me happy. And the fact that I feel respected and appreciated by people who are completely different to what I've been educated and brought up, makes me grateful and proud.
So much more than amassing stuff. I'm sure you guys understand that.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 15, 2017 - 8:22pm
I agree with George. You're smart, really.... but I could not live as a settled down person. I need NOT to know where I will end. IF I knew, I'd fall into depression. I'm a gypsy somehow - the planet is too big to stay in one place. I've made more than 45 countries and 25 years abroad with no career or savings. Just by getting by, working along the road and using some street smartness in Switzerland LOL. And I don't intend to stop it.
Although - my new job might tie me somehow to West Africa - but for a guy who gets older that's still big enough :-) 
Steve Bergeron Added Jun 15, 2017 - 8:56pm
Modern people and ancients (like the Greeks) have/had different meanings for happiness.  Ancient words for happiness, like eudaimonia, or makarios in Greek or beatitudo in Latin, mean true, real blessedness, while the modern English word happiness usually means merely subjective satisfaction, or contentment, so that in modern English, if you feel happy, you're happy. It makes no sense, in modern English, to tell someone, "You think you're happy, but you're not." Happiness is for the moment;  blessedness can be for a lifetime.  Happiness and blessedness both begin inside ourselves not on the outside.  I would think that everyone agrees that we all seek happiness.  Sometimes we may hear something like, "What good are riches, if they don't make you happy."  But we never hear, "What good is happiness, if it doesn't make you rich?"  That would make no sense.  Happiness and blessedness both begin inside ourselves not on the outside.  You can have absolutely nothing, and be very happy...or better yet...blessed.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 15, 2017 - 9:06pm
SEFa wrote a nice article that seems heartfelt, and this is another opportunity to show only Love, Love, Love to help calm the all-consuming hatreds.  I won't mention Santa Claus or the Easter bunny, but I will sing the praise of that wonderful, hard working guy beyond repute, Geo Romey.  I'm shedding tears about Geo's former plight, of him being over 50, and now having to endure the shame of poverty when he's been returned to the realm of elites.  Geo is so astute and just wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.  He really makes it.  To add icing, I'm volunteering to help SEFa to round up Zionists and have them punished!  I'm now a fervent believer in The Deep State and give them control of my life, as they demand and express only love for this loss.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 15, 2017 - 9:16pm
One place I know happiness comes from is music, and there was a recent discussion of it as a business.  Now and again, the grind of the biz (doing cover material) bears fruit.  to wit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUBr-7svb4   great finger work on guitar.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jun 15, 2017 - 10:45pm
Jeff is just upsit that the Golden State Warriors won the NBA tournament because Golden State are the warriors of the Deep State and prove who is in charge. 
Patrick Writes Added Jun 16, 2017 - 1:48am
Happiness is a state of mind. Everyone can be happy and it doesn't cost anything. 
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 5:55am
One place I know happiness comes from is music
There I can agree to a 1000% LOL
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 5:58am
I can't do much with the expression "blessedness", sorry. But there are happy moments AND/OR a continuous state of satisfaction. Maybe satisfaction describes it better.....the nuances of the English language....;-)
I'm a pretty leveled out person, no ups or downs really. And I'm grateful for that :-)
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 5:59am
Not everybody can be happy, really. I don't think that someone living in South Sudan or Somalia can be happy when there's war all around.
But by thinking of the situation of such people..........we really can't complain, can we ?
Michael B. Added Jun 16, 2017 - 10:18am
I read somewhere that happiness consists of three main elements; knowing what you want, how to get it, and then getting it. Makes sense to me, lol.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 10:31am
Yep. Does ;)
Bill Kamps Added Jun 16, 2017 - 11:26am
Happiness is up to ourselves.  My mood can change totally when I hear a song driving home that I really like.  Has nothing to do with the money I have, just has to do with enjoying the moment. 
There is a difference between long term happiness and short term, and too many people allow long terms struggles to get in the way of enjoying the moment.  You can be piled high with debt, and your ex can be suing your ass, but you can still enjoy meeting with friends, or hearing a song you like or seeing movie you enjoy. 
Michael B. Added Jun 16, 2017 - 11:45am
Music definitely brings me happiness, if only temporary. I think "The Spirit of Radio" by Rush sums it up pretty good:
Begin the day with a friendly voice
A companion unobtrusive
Plays that song that's so elusive
And the magic music makes your morning mood
Off on your way, hit the open road
There is magic at your fingers
For the Spirit ever lingers
Undemanding contact in your happy solitude
Invisible airwaves crackle with life
Bright antennae bristle with the energy
Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free
All this machinery making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question of your honesty, yeah
Your honesty
One likes to believe in the freedom of music
But glittering prizes and endless compromises
Shatter the illusion of integrity
"For the words of the profits were written on the studio wall
Concert hall
And echoes with the sound of salesmen...of salesmen...of salesmen."
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 11:46am
My mood can change totally when I hear a song driving home that I really like
I do the opposite. I choose songs to CREATE a certain mood ;-)
Bill Kamps Added Jun 16, 2017 - 11:56am
Well true, but the point is we can have short term happiness, without having everything going well in our lives.  However, sometimes a nice surprise on the radio is cool.  
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 12:35pm
Yes. Such things can give strength to carry on. Better a good song than a sermon at a church LOL
Ian Thorpe Added Jun 16, 2017 - 12:44pm

The Happiness Shop?
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 1:21pm
No. 2 1/2 men ;-)
mark henry smith Added Jun 16, 2017 - 3:33pm
Hey, I just wanted to say that I agree with Steve, that there is a state of happiness and a state of blessedness and they are not the same. In a state of happiness, you feel happy despite whatever is going on around you because the state you're in pleases you. It could be a hostile state, a benign state, or a delusional state.
Blessedness was best described by the philosopher and writer Joseph Campbell when he talked about achieving bliss. It's not about a thing, a state, or where you are at all in life. It is about feeling that hands are reaching out from beyond the veil of reality and propelling you towards your purpose. If you've ever had that feeling you realize that it's way, way beyond anything happiness has to offer. It's bliss.
And that ties in with all of the above, having a thing to strive for, having a sense of one's greater meaning beyond the self, allowing spiritual intervention to guide us, and that doesn't have to mean God.      
mark henry smith Added Jun 16, 2017 - 3:39pm
Oh, Stone, what I meant by rich people not knowing they're doing good is that wealth can be like a wall blocking your view. You might be throwing leftovers over the wall believing that they're helping whatever's out there survive, you might have advisers telling you it does help, but until you see it for yourself, how can you be sure? Really good people do good to all they come in contact with because it's all they got. The rest of us rationalize what's good and bad acts, do a cost-benefit analysis and then come to a conclusion, on the whole I'm good.  
Stone-Eater Added Jun 16, 2017 - 3:54pm
Being good means being good with others will result in you feeling good too which will result in...;-)
Being "good" always includes a piece of egoism. Otherwise it can't be possible.
You might be throwing leftovers over the wall believing that they're helping whatever's out there survive
I have seen that in Africa. But I felt that people who've done that did it for a feeling of superiority. Without exception. Sad.
Jeff Michka Added Jun 16, 2017 - 4:41pm
Ian Thorpe Added Jun 17, 2017 - 12:00pm
Jeff, now why didn't I think of that LOL
Steve Bergeron Added Jun 22, 2017 - 8:30am
For those of you with time on your hands, there's an excellent lecture on the four levels of Happiness on Youtube, here:  
Fr. Robert Spitzer is a Catholic priest with a PhD in Physics.  He was the president of Gonzaga University at one time, and now runs the Magis Center.  Incredibly intelligent, and, interestingly...blind.
Katharine Otto Added Jun 26, 2017 - 12:47pm
Having money isn't what it's cracked up to be.  It makes you predator bait, for one thing, and isolates you from honest relationships with those who feel intimidated, resentful, or out-distanced.  Lots of people go into debt to have the appearance of wealth, and that makes them slaves to the money.  In fact, those who sacrifice a personal life to become corporate slaves or otherwise "work for the money" must feel short-changed.  Money for its own sake seems an empty ambition, but that's what drives gamblers, including those in the stock market.  Does it make them happy?  There sure are a lot of them, but I think insecurity drives most of it.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 26, 2017 - 6:36pm
"Lots of people go into debt to have the appearance of wealth, and that makes them slaves to the money."
When you don't have a stable ego and depend on what others think of you. If not, you give a shit about it. I always say: They don't feed me, so why should I take them as an example ?

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