Elon Musk and His Crazy Mars Project

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This might be short. I don't have a lot to say and I don't want to drag out and belabor the point but the question isn't why no one is asking whether Elon Musk is insane, but rather why the American people and the people of the World aren't looking at this guy and going Huh? What?


At cost of God knows how many TRILLIONS of dollars, and at a time when that money clearly doesn't exist, you want to send a bunch of people to a land with no oxygen and that is colder than Antarctica to start what? Exactly?


You Stupid fuck!!!


Leroy Added Jun 16, 2017 - 7:32am
If we didn't have dreamers, we would still be living in caves.
S.R. Morris Added Jun 16, 2017 - 7:41am
Seeing the government will take most of it if he dies with it, how else would you spend it?
The Other Side Added Jun 16, 2017 - 8:18am
OMG. Leroy. Dreaming is dreaming like the ancient Bedouins did of the gardens of Damascus. That's a dream. Fig trees. Olive gardens. That's a dream.
Going to a sterile red rock is fucking nuts!
Autumn Cote Added Jun 16, 2017 - 8:49am
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The Other Side Added Jun 16, 2017 - 9:05am
OK. So that cleared up, let's get back to to Elon Musk and his lunatic expedition to Mars.
Ian Thorpe Added Jun 16, 2017 - 9:16am
Musk isn't crazy, he will keep coming up with crazy ideas that can only ever burn money as long as people keep putting money up for him to burn. Burning other people's money is his idea of fun I guess.
Leroy Added Jun 16, 2017 - 12:46pm
I remember people thinking Bezos was nuts.  He was burning through money like crazy.  His response, "I can make money anytime I want," or something to that effect and then proved it.  He's becoming bolder with each move.  He's taking over the world.  He's taking on WalMart now.  He does it...well because he can.
Likewise, Musk takes on the impossible.  He's no Bezos, but he has been successful.  Unfortunately, he uses too many subsidies from the government.  It's my money.  That's the only thing that concerns me. 
Michael B. Added Jun 16, 2017 - 1:33pm
The only benefit from a Mars mission would be giving people jobs, but only on a very temporary basis; otherwise, it would be a waste of a trillion dollars. At one job I had, I used to get various valves from a place that sold them second hand. On my first visit, the owner gave me a tour of his store and yard, and it was almost like a museum of the space program. He bought scrap and surplus from various government and military facilities for pennies on the ton, and then had his workers strip off anything that could be re-used, like valves, pumps, metals, etc, etc. Things that cost the taxpayers MILLIONS and MILLIONS essentially wound up on the scrap heap.
Also, a round-trip to Mars would take three years; people in a zero-gravity environment for that long would suffer irreversible damage to their bodies and senses, not to mention exposure to radiation. By all measurements, it's simply not worth it. Why should an entire nation, or even the entire world for that matter, blow a trillion dollars for something that has no value whatsoever. Probes and drones are expensive enough.
George N Romey Added Jun 16, 2017 - 1:50pm
A few months back there was a show on Nat Geo about going to Mars (with Musk featured).  The enormity (not to mention cost) of getting there and back and sustaining life is mind boggling.  We no how, no way could remotely do something like this with our current world economy.  The big dreams got filled in the 1960s. Today, we are lucky if somehow we can break the congestion within air travel.
Musk has so much money himself he probably is clueless to the economic reality surrounding a trip to Mars.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jun 16, 2017 - 2:50pm
Absolutely useless. Fucking up this planet to find refuge on another one (which will NEVER work anyway) instead of keeping THIS one habitable.
Only a fool would do that - Steely Dan (slight title change)
Leroy Added Jun 16, 2017 - 7:46pm
The only way we will get off this dustball and ensure the survival of the human race is to start space exploration. 
Just as the past space program lead to the technology we have today, this too would have technological benefits.
I would rather see money spent on something that will benefit us long term than to pay it out for useless things like Climate Change.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jun 16, 2017 - 8:47pm
Forget climate change. We're TOO MANY people on that small ball using too much resources in a too short time. That's all.
And the fault of having too many people lies in a) religion and b) poverty and c) lacking education.
We don't need Mars. We could NOT live by the billions on a planet without a suitable atmosphere. Hello ?
We could send some 10'000 people up there and hope that evolution is fast enough to develop a system of life support in that environment. Probably would take some millions of years......evolution is pretty slow ;-)
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jun 16, 2017 - 8:51pm
BTW: So - it's a HOAX. Forget Musk. Just a guy who makes money on delusional dreams.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jun 16, 2017 - 8:53pm
BTW2: We're not clever enough. We can't even fully control our OWN technology LOL
Leroy Added Jun 16, 2017 - 9:50pm
Who was that crazy guy Musk named his business after.  Oh, yeah. Tesla.  Man, he wasted so much many working on this stupid, useless idea called an A/C motor.  And A/C transmission lines; what was he thinking?  And what practical use could over the air transmission be?  I can see why Musk borrowed the name.  They are both useless dreamers who waste money that could be used to fight poverty.
The Other Side Added Jun 17, 2017 - 3:02am
Thank you Stone Eater. My thoughts exactly.
For all the remaining delusionals, there is no salvation in outer space, so give it up. k? k.
The Other Side Added Jun 17, 2017 - 3:07am
@Leroy. Actually the most efficient method of power transmission is extreme high voltage DC. You can Google it.
Autumn Cote Added Jun 17, 2017 - 6:55am
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Leroy Added Jun 17, 2017 - 8:20am
"Actually the most efficient method of power transmission is extreme high voltage DC. You can Google it."
Interesting, TOS.  Still isn't practical for general use yet, but it is good for long distance, point to point transmission.  It seems there is no extreme high voltage DC transmission in use yet, but China is in the lead for implementing such a system.  I know Germany has plans to use DC to transmit power from its wind farms in the north to the power hungry south.  Perhaps these will be extreme high voltage DC.
It is touted as a savior for green energy.  The problem with most green energy is that the users are located far away from the source.  The problem is in the conversion.
It has its benefits and it is not new, but don't expect DC transmission lines to your home anytime soon.
We'll have to see if ABB is selling China a load of crap or whether it is ready for prime time.  China is famous for touting technology that disappears with time.  Saw an interesting video on a driverless train yesterday.  It had a driver.  And, it wasn't exactly a train, more like a bus.  It may work.  The problems aren't as great in China.  It doesn't matter if you kill a few people in the name of progress.  Then there was overhead bus that was more like a train that went over top of traffic.  And, of course, China is famous for its MagLev train.  Notice that I used the singular.  It's more of a tourist attraction.  Extremely high voltage DC transmission may be the reality some day, but don't get to giddy about it now.
wsucram15 Added Jun 17, 2017 - 2:48pm
Elon Musk..I can remember when everyone laughed about the Tesla. However, it is an expensive auto and not for everyone.
Also space settlements are so far in the future, if at all, that we wont be here to worry about it and neither will Elon Musk. The launch to investigate begins in August 2020 and ends on February 2021.  But for now, any trips planned are for astronauts and NASA personnel.  Sometime in the 2030s for Im sure the wealthiest of the wealthy who have done the most damage to the planet.
Jenifer Frost Added Jun 17, 2017 - 5:35pm
Personally I think the government should invest in deep space propulsion for getting to the stars. Musk can do what he wants in regards to Mars, in the least he has the potential to help develop ways to build and maintain facilities on hostile environments, which obviously has it's eventual usage in the future of space exploration. 
Michael B. Added Jun 17, 2017 - 8:09pm
Jenifer, knowing government R&D projects like I do, I'm sure that they will invest much more in weapons development right here on Earth. For example, all of the groundwork for modern-day rocketry was primarily for such things; Germans like von Braun and others were initially recruited by the Reichswehr (the German armed forces that existed between the end of WW1 and Hitler) to develop rockets as a form of heavy artillery that were prohibited by the Versailles Treaty. The Versailles Treaty specifically had artillery weapons like Big Bertha and the infamous Paris Gun in mind, but rockets at that time belonged firmly in the realm of science fiction.
Jenifer Frost Added Jun 17, 2017 - 8:25pm
That's possible Micheal, although I'm not clear on how faster than light speed propulsion could be turned into a weapon without creating one hell of a mess for everyone. 
Michael B. Added Jun 17, 2017 - 9:02pm
Jenifer, I spent some thought on that a couple of years ago when the Chelyabinsk meteor hit Russia; the amount of energy we see in nature cannot, and hopefully will not, be replicated by humankind. We're simply too savage and selfish and stupid to be wielding such power, IMHO.
Rusty Smith Added Jun 21, 2017 - 9:04pm
Elon is sharing his wet dream and enjoying all the great press he gets by making other people dream too.  Some people even believe him when he talks about things like that.
His insight is about as realistic as Ben Franklin's could have been if he'd said we're going to send people to the moon.
The Other Side Added Jul 15, 2017 - 3:19pm
@Leroy. Sorry for the delayed response. Had a lot of projects in the queue. You said: "Still isn't practical for general use yet"
Not true. Major power distributors like PG&E have utilized high-voltage direct power to eliminate substations. There is a 700kv line that now runs the length of the San Francisco Bay. Again. You can Google it.