JFK What Could Have Been?

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JFK's greatness really was what he wanted to do in particularly his second term as President not what he accomplished in his less than three years before he was assassinated.  JFK had planned to exit Vietnam and work with Nikita Khrushchev for a détente and an eventual teardown of the Berlin War.  He wanted to clip the Deep State (CIA/FBI) powers and eliminate the Federal Reserve in favor of a national bank.  He desired civil rights that would give a hand up to the poor not the token hand outs to keep minorities voting Democrat.  Finally, after realizing just how dirty and corrupt Johnson was he wanted him off the ticket in 1964.  Johnson was forced on JFK similar to the way in which Truman had been forced on FDR in 1944 (the same situation occurred in 1940 but a physically and mentally stronger FDR threatened to reject the nomination if Wallace wasn't on the ticket).

 

In this first term he of course avoided what could have been a planet ending war with Russia over Cuba.  This was after the dark Bay of Pigs failed invasion in which Kennedy came to understand how easily he could be duped by supposedly trusted advisers.  he vowed never to be taken as a fool again.

 

Now more than 55 years later, more and more Americans believe that JFK was murdered because his vision of the country did not fit in with the Deep State, the neocons and the thief Lyndon Johnson.  Recent surveys shows that more than 75% of Americans doubt the Warren Commission and just as many believe the US would be a far better place today if Kennedy lived and was voted in for a second term.

 

JFK like FDR was raised in privilege and wealth.  His father Joseph was considered crooked and to have used insider information to personally gain off the stock market crash in the late 20s and early 30s.  FDR was said to have put him in as the first chief of the SEC because FDR believed it took a liar and crook to capture a liar and crook. 

 

Unlike today, in WW2 rich men served in combat right alongside poor men.  JFK's PT boat was rammed during the war with Kennedy suffering a back injury that bothered him for life.  He is said to have saved multiple lives that night.  My father served in the Asian theater and to him JFK was a saint. As a very small child (4 years old at the time) I remember my mother crying all day and went to pieces when my father game home from work the day JFK died.  Its as if something had been stolen from my parents and eventually my generation and others to follow.

 

Kennedy's Attorney General was Bobby Kennedy, which shared JFK's ambitions.  In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was well on the way to winning the nomination for the Democratic Party when he too was gunned down under similar questionable circumstances.  Again many point to the belief the Deep State protecting its interests.  Also, Bobby shared the vision of Martin Luther King and Southern Democrats wanted no part of raising people up.

 

Rumors have circulated for years that Johnson kept Bobby quite during the subsequent years by threatening to release salacious details of JFK's womanizing.  JFK like many other great leaders had his own demons and adultery was one of them, including White House liaisons with Marilyn Monroe.  Later it was believed that Bobby would no longer go along with the blackmail once in Office and would tell the truth about his brother's death.

 

There likely will never be a formal omission of a cover up.  What we now live with are the events afterwards that have had a negative impact on our country.  We squandered billions on Vietnam not to mention the trillions on nuclear defense for a Cold War that should have never continued.  We lived under the thumb of the Federal Reserve as it protects the interests of Wall Street over Main Street.  More importantly, the assassination of JFK gave the Deep State and its neocon faction the victory it needed to control politicians and wage endless wars and conflicts.  Eisenhower warned us and Kennedy paid the ultimate price for taking the mantle up after Eisenhower.

 

Kennedy saw a different vision of the US.  A country that lead science and technology and gave its citizens the ability to fully participate and benefit from a then changing world.  Kennedy believed the US could be the land of plenty for most Americans and that eliminating much of poverty was possible.  He envisioned a US at peace and focusing on internal prosperity.  Its said the American Dream may have come to die the day JFK died.  Unfortunately, there is some truth in that statement.

 

Finally, JFK reminded us that our duty is to our country in his famous words "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."  Before I die I hope to one day visit Arlington Cemetery again (I visited as a kid as my parents forced us all to visit Kennedy's gave) and whisper to President Kennedy I have come to understand.

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

Donald Swenson Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:08am
JFK died in November, 1963. I was over in Sazaboo, Japan, at the time (I was 20). I was in the Navy. I heard the news and was shocked. I then voted for Johnson in 1964, thinking he would bring us peace. He did just the opposite. I agree that the assassination of JFK was an inside job. We can call the perpetrators the Deep State. The evidence is confusing but my sense is that JFK's policies were the problem. Money and criminal operatives were behind the killing IMO. Could JFK have brought us a better world? I don't know but I do know that I felt a serious loss when he died. Your history above seems valid. We now need another great leader to deal with our current corrupt situation. But who? D
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:39am
You need a proof reader.
I was very very young but I remember my mother being in tears for days and I vaguely remember the black and white film of the funeral.
I certainly believe that JFK and the CIA/deep state were on a collision course but I've never heard of anything about the Fed being involved. Nor can I imagine why they would be given that they wield very little power despite your beliefs.
I have little doubt that the CIA organised the hit and that Dulles was the prime mover but beyond that it's hard to glean enough hard data to have a clear picture. Johnson's involvement falls into the not enough evidence category.
RFK was certainly hit by the CIA, JFK Jr quite possibly and Chappaquiddick (sp?) was a put up job too.
There is no doubt that MLK Jr was hit by government forces.
The greatest democracy on earth eh?
Jeff Jackson Added Jul 15, 2017 - 2:47am
Very heartfelt article George. The JFK assassination was shocking to say the least. The assassination has been attributed to the birth of many "conspiracy theories." The crux of the problem is, that if so many people were involved (and had to be) why then, has no one come forward with a credible admission that they were part of the conspiracy. A conspiracy the size of what would have had to have been the assassination would have involved a lot of people, any of which could be made rich and famous if they revealed that something happened other than the explanation of the Warren Report.
I agree that it really changed the American political landscape, as well as the general mentality and the spirit of America. We lost a lot that day, without a doubt. Then Jack Ruby kills Oswald before whatever he knew, or whatever reason he did it could be revealed.
Oswald was very very lucky shot that day. I would like to believe that it took more than one whackjob to change history in such a profound way, and the majority of the American people feel the same way. I just do not see any credibility of the conspiracy theories. Too many people would be involved that could never have kept the secrets. Secrets have a way of coming out, because of the nature of people. One man changed history, and then another silenced the man before whatever he knew could come out and become public. We would like to think that forces greater than one man could change history so profoundly, and the conspiracy theory fills in the gaps. It isn't that I trust the government to tell me the truth, it is just the human nature characteristic to reveal secrets for deep psychological reasons that we barely understand, not the least of which the desire for the truth to be told, especially before people pass away. Many who would have been involved at this point have passed away, none of which have offered valid alternative theories or explanations. I know people believe and defend the conspiracy theories, but I am not one of them. If the Warren Commission report turns out to be a big lie, the anger could be dangerous for this democracy. That is one reason why I do not think they lied about it. The whole story might not have been told, and there are holes that seem to be blank, but it is not one big lie, at least in my opinion.
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 3:24am
Jackson apparently only gets his news from the TV.
It's pathetic what these clowns will push as facts.
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:26am
George believes that if the elites can make him believe that 2 + 2 = 5 then the elites can make 2 + 2 = 5.
They can't.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:59am
@ John G. "You need a proof reader."
 
Fuck the proof reader. That is used when you are going to publish or presenting to the chairman. The piece is excellent. Something I have been searching for. I want no one here to clam up on their free writing because some analist will call them out for  a misplaced comma.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 15, 2017 - 10:54am
LBJ may not have had JFK killed, but it seems he knew it was going to happen.  They had a party at Murchison's house the night before, and LBJ supposedly  was letting people in on what was going to happen.  Texas hated JFK, especially  the oil people, and the people here give credence to the Murchison story. Hoover also hated JFK because he was going to end his term as FBI Director.
 
LBJ did have a few other people killed in his rise to power, and of course stole tens of millions with his scheme to funnel money to his wife's TV stations.
 
The CIA doing the deed and blaming the Russians to make the media and politicians accept the Warren Commission seems the most plausible.
 
We can believe what we want, but it is pretty impossible to believe the Warren Commission as written.  Other rumors include the reason that Ford was handed the Presidency because of his role in getting the Warren Commission accepted. 
 
By the way, Joe not only engaged in insider trading, we can add bootlegging and election fraud to his alleged activities.  Of course we are supposed to believe that that voter fraud in the US is extremely rare.  I grew up in Chicago, and can tell you that voter fraud occurred every election day, and was widely known and out in the open. Of course it only  happened on election days, so I guess that made it rare.
 
Since in most states one can vote with only a drivers license, and since illegal aliens can easily get a drivers license, it sort of begs credibility that none of these people are voting with the encouragement of party operatives from one party or another.  Chicago was very patriotic back in the day, the homeless voted often and the dead rose up from the cemeteries to cast their votes. 
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 11:22am
Great comments. I believe that in the 20th century two major events changed our future and not for the better.  In 1944, when FDR should have either bowed out or had the strength to prevent Henry Wallace from being removed from the ticket and in 1963 the killing of Kennedy.
 
Oswald was this kind of clueless unhinged stooge.  He may have been recruited as one of the shooters (the one to take the fall) based upon grand promises of fame.  The more I read about Johnson the more I believe he was the most corrupt human being to ever hold the office of President.  Makes you glad that we actually have Trump today.
Autumn Cote Added Jul 15, 2017 - 11:26am
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Bill H. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 12:32pm
 
JFK was by far the greatest President I have witnessed during my lifetime. I remember virtually everyone admiring him, no matter which party they supported. He was a supporter of the people, a uniter, and a superb diplomat who was respected the world over.
What a contrast we now have.
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 12:51pm
Bill and Dannl like I said in the article I was only four years old when JFK was killed and my memories are fuzzy.  We've not had a President so loved since then.  It seems that after JFK the Office of President has gone downhill.  We've had a succession of leaderless and usually corrupt characters since him.
 
As I noted Kennedy had his demons, as well as FDR.  But both really had a love of this country even in their imperfections.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 15, 2017 - 12:58pm
George, Watergate changed a lot.  It showed us  the President isnt always the good guy.  It also changed the role of the press, instead of covering up for the President and being enablers, they have taken more of the role of trying to expose the politician's misdeeds.  Of course it is very uneven scrutiny, depending on the party and preferences of the press person involved.  However, there is some scrutiny now.  The media almost never attacked the President prior to Watergate, and rarely questioned what came out of Washington.
 
As the LBJ example shows, it isnt that we have dishonest politicians now, and didnt before.  Its that we know more about  them, and this has caused a more cynical view of politicians in general.   The press knew all about how Johnson was stealing millions, but "for the good of the country" they didnt say anything.
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:04pm
I think those in the know were also scared of Johnson.  From the research I did he would stop at nothing to destroy a perceived enemy. He was true psychopath before we understood the meaning.  
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:11pm
Bill you have to remember that Bernstein and Woodward were two young naive reporters in which the story fell into their laps.  They were naive enough and hungry enough for notoriety they dared tread where few would.  Also there was far less bias in the press at the time. Notice during the Obama administration how so few reporters criticized him for his deeds.  Of course today its the reverse, the press has no issue going after Trump with the weak accusations.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:19pm
Oh granted George.  He is alleged to have had a couple of people killed, before becoming President.  My point really is just that  the press were enablers before Nixon, and since then have been a lot more adversarial towards politicians in general.  While it probably keeps them a bit more honest, it also has created the cynicism with government because we see warts on nearly all of them. 
 
The change in the press, has also created this perception that times back then were more honest, more simple, and more moral.  It wasn't so, people just didnt know about it, information wasnt so easy to get back then, so people accepted what the government said, like when they put US citizens of Japanese decent into concentration camps during the war.  Not FDR's best move.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:36pm
What was the relation between JFK and MLK? How did that figure in his murder?
Jeff Jackson Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:40pm
Joe Kennedy made a fortune during prohibition, doing, um, guess what? I cannot verify, but I think the Kennedys still get a surcharge for every bottle of scotch that enters the U.S. I can't verify that, though.
Given the corruption of Joe Kennedy, JFK's father, it was rather amazing that the scandals of his father didn't follow him, along with all of the affairs that JFK had, which the press ignored, by the way. Jackie was so upset by JFK's philandering that Big Daddy Joe paid her several million to stay with JFK, because he knew that a wife-cheating candidate could never get elected in the 1950s or 1960.
Think about this. When JFK was 21 years old, he inherited $5 million, which would be like maybe $40 million today.
Chicago, Texas, and some East Coast states had some shady voters in the election of 1960. I had a prof say that a recount wouldn't have been good for Kennedy with all of the voting dead in Texas and Illinois. But Nixon had class, and let it go. Today, it would be a huge mess. Humor writer P.J. O'Rourke said that in the Kennedys, the sins of the father came down upon the sons, and as morbid as it sounds, it sure explains a lot of the bad things that happened. Karma's not always fun, sometimes it gets even.
 
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:41pm
Dr. Green I believe the murder of Bobby Kennedy was more appropriate to Dr King.  Dr. King's civil rights activities became more visible to the American people by the mid 60s and Bobby supported Dr. King.  
Bill Kamps Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:47pm
MLK  allegedly  had communist party operatives on his staff.  One was named David Levison.  JFK stayed away from MLK largely because of this. JFK ordered surveillance of MLK to keep an eye on Levison.  This then continued after JFK's death at Bobby's insistence.
 
Because the FBI was investigating MLK, and smearing him, they are thought to have been involved in having him killed.  You can read this, for some of the  reasoning.
 
http://www.thedailybell.com/news-analysis/why-so-many-people-believe-the-fbi-killed-martin-luther-king-jr/
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 1:52pm
Thanks for the specific info Bill.  Now I remember that the FBI was concerned about King's "perceived" Communist threat as anyone else at the time that spoke out against the War and other social ills.
Dino Manalis Added Jul 15, 2017 - 3:35pm
JFK knew tax cuts were necessary to stimulate the economy and Reagan borrowed the same strategy.
Donald Swenson Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:10pm
What all the posts reveal is that human nature is complex. Johnson seemed to me to be such a great statesman in 1964 when I voted for him. A year later I felt totally betrayed. As a Vietnam vet I can say he lied about all the important military issues. Even the starting event was proven to be a false flag event. I was over in the Tonkin Gulf area at the time. D
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:28pm
Donald we were a much more naive country in 1964 and sadly politics has become more corrupt.  However, I believe today the Deep State would be afraid to kill a President because few Americans would believe the official version.  Huge false flags are also increasingly tough to carry out.
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 5:50pm
MLK was an anti-war socialist. And he was popular.
An establishment nightmare.
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:09pm
JFK was actually pretty hawkish before the Cuban Missile Crisis, but once he experienced how close we came to terminating ourselves, his outlook and his policies softened considerably. Many people who knew him said that JFK knew instinctively that he wasn't going to live to a ripe old age, which probably explained, among other things, why he fucked any and every woman he could get his Presidential pecker into.
Jeff Jackson Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:15pm
JFK suffered from Addison's Disease, and had been so close to death some years back that he had been given the last rites. His health was not so good, and yeah, being a good-looking ultra rich politician helped him hook up with beauties like Marilyn Monroe. Some say that Marilyn was murdered because she was going to go public with the affair.
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:22pm
Michael I think JFK feared at least somewhat for his life.  Maybe he didn't think the Deep State would actually do it.  Also as I point out he became more and more aware of how much of a scumbag and crook Johnson was.  Rather than cause a huge national crisis by bringing his sins to life he had simply told Johnson he wasn't going to be part of the second term.  Interestingly, JFK didn't want Johnson to go to Dallas but Johnson insisted and JFK for appearance purposes caved into his demand.
 
Jeff, I also heard the same thing about MM. She apparently was devastated by his death and it is thought JFK confined in her his fears about the Deep State and Johnson.  There were also rumors that Jackie knew about MM and JFK's other affairs but was amendable to them.
 
 
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:58pm
Although JFK had his share of enemies and detractors, RFK did a lot to earn them; powerful and dangerous enemies, like the Mafia and the CIA, among many others.
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 7:11pm
You have to wonder after what they did to his brother why RFK would have gone after the same actors. For sure the man had bigger testicles than I will ever have.
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 7:15pm
Yes, I always wondered about that; being the Attorney General of the United States, you'd think he would have went berserk in finding his brother's killer(s). I guess we'll never know the whole story.
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 7:36pm
From what I understand Johnson threatened to expose JFK's womanizing and RFK knowing the snake he was wouldn't go against him.  It's believe by some that RFK would have told the truth once elected President and another reason he too ended up with a fatal bullet. 
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 8:27pm
I read a book some years ago called The Mafia Killed Kennedy. According to the author, the mob originally wanted to smoke RFK, but the bosses thought it through; "If we kill RFK, his brother, the President, will leave no stone unturned to put us away, but if we kill JFK, RFK will be neutralized, as without JFK, RFK is nothing." Like I said, we'll probably never know. I'll have to re-watch Oliver Stone's JFK - it's been a while.
Phil Greenough Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:47am
“more and more Americans believe that JFK was murdered because his vision of the country did not fit in with the Deep State, the neocons and the thief Lyndon Johnson.  Recent surveys shows that more than 75% of Americans doubt the Warren Commission and just as many believe the US would be a far better place today if Kennedy lived and was voted in for a second term.”
 
Just because people believe something to be true doesn’t mean they’re right.  While I agree JFK was planning to end the Vietnam War, the fact of the matter is that under his watch the war escalated and more Americans died in Vietnam than any other president that presided during war.  I also agree with most Americans that the US would be a better place if Kennedy lived and he clearly would have won a second term (most presidents do).  However, liking him does not mean he was killed in some massive conspiracy connected to a nefarious entity you can’t identify, much less prove had anything to do with his death. 
Bill Kamps Added Jul 16, 2017 - 8:20am
Phil, its tough to prove anything, though the Warren Commission story has obvious problems with it.  Does it mean it was a major coverup or a minor one, we just dont know, but it doesnt make sense.
 
We are left with a few other plausible stories which cant be proven because the people involved arent around anymore.  The information that is there, is conflicting, some people are obviously lying, so that means we are left to decide for ourselves who is telling the most plausible story. 
George N Romey Added Jul 16, 2017 - 12:18pm
Up to a few years ago I had no interests in this topic.  Then as I saw and realized how a "Deep State" was effectively running this country for their own benefit and therefore this like many other subjects began to interest me. I've done hours of research on JFK and the events surrounding his death from a multitude of researchers and writers. My conclusion was that JFK had an enormous vision for this country and it did not fit in with the ever growing power of the Deep State.  
 
As Bill and other have noted, Kennedy had missteps in his first two years most notably the Bay of Pigs. Possibly those events shaped a change in his thinking and a grave concern over a growing and more powerful by the day shadow government.  Again my research shows that JFK initially took on Johnson as VP because Party bosses told him because of his age and religion more conservative Democrats (including KKK types from the South) would not support him without an older and more suitable VP pick. Once in office Kennedy began to learn more about Johnson eventually deciding to get Johnson out of policy and off the ticket for 1964.  
 
There is a lot about the assassination of JFK we may never know or not at least not in our lifetime. What was the real role of Oswald? Was he actually CIA?  Same for Jack Ruby?  What did Johnson actually know?  There is footage of him starting to duck a couple of seconds before the first shot. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:59pm
JFK had planned to exit Vietnam
 
No he didn't. He had plans to exit or remain in Vietnam. He made two opposite statements to two different news anchors: one to Walter Cronkite (the war might be unwinnable) and one to Chet Huntley (he believed in the domino theory, and feared the future of southeast Asia might be communist expansion).
 
JFK was a cold-war, "blue-dog" Democrat, which meant that he was strongly anti-Communist. Even his brother, attorney-general Robert Kennedy, claimed JFK would not have left Vietnam.
Patrick Writes Added Jul 16, 2017 - 10:00pm
I don't know what Kennedy thought or planned but I know that weeks before his assassination, he approved of the ousting of the leader of South Vietnam (Ngo Dinh Diem) that Eisenhower installed because he was "too weak". The CIA helped overthrow the government of South Vietnam and Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother were both shot and killed. 
 
There is debate as to whether Kennedy realized he signed off on an assassination like a small time gangster. But realize or not, that's what he did. 
 
I hate stupid conspiracy theories myself but there is a LOT of evidence that Bobby Kennedy was personally involved in the murder of Marilyn Monroe after giving her an ultimatum regarding her threats to go public with relationship with the president.  
 
Kennedy's many extramarital affairs were like a leaky pipe that Bobby and others were continually band-aiding until a new leak sprung. News of these nearly broke a few times even while he was president (newspapermen were already writing columns 'a senior member of the president's administration was alleged to have had an affair with a Soviet spy'--this was true, Kennedy did sleep with a Soviet spy.) The Kennedy's already had to stick J. Edgar Hoover on a newspaper in the Midwest that was printing stories of this kind. 
 
My opinion is he would have never survived reelection. The extra-marital affairs or his health would have done him in. It was becoming common knowledge in too many circles. This guy bedded numerous DIFFERENT women on a daily basis. He put a 19 year old secretary in the White House for the express purpose of relieving some stress. He was addicted to various painkillers and other drugs. 
 
With regard to his legacy, it was almost good he was removed from the picture because Jackie and Bobby could whitewash everything for a generation. It would be in poor taste to write about any of this until the 1980's. 
Patrick Writes Added Jul 16, 2017 - 10:06pm
Isn't it true that Kennedy wasn't that popular while president? 
 
It was only after the fact that the myth of Camelot was manufactured by Jackie and Bobby? It was only in death that he was elevated into the stratosphere of 'great presidents'. 
 
In 1960, he won the closest election in U.S. history (and may not have actually won). The press adored him. But I'd have to think that his image and lofty words didn't mean too much to Midwesterners or Texans or Southerners. 
Jeff Jackson Added Jul 17, 2017 - 12:38am
Patrick is correct. Had there been a recount and examination of some of the corruption in the vote counting, JFK might not have won. Nixon had a lot more class than he's ever been given credit for having. Of course Nixon was flawed, but all men are. As history moves on, Nixon is finally collecting the credit he deserved some time ago. I always remind people that the Environmental Protection Agency, (EPA) was approved by Nixon, who really wanted it, and knew that we had to do something about the environment. So much for all the trolls on WB insisting that I'm not concerned about the environment. If you read "The Real War" Nixon's best book, it was the playbook of Ronald Reagan, or, as we call him, Ronaldus Maximus. It brought the U.S.S.R to its knees.
John G Added Jul 17, 2017 - 4:29am
Jackson could never believe that the US establishment would ever do anything untoward.
They are angels. And all foreigners are lesser beings.
 
George N Romey Added Jul 17, 2017 - 6:54am
JFK had his very dark sides just like many other Presidents.  As I said Jackie appeared to know about the affairs and content to let them go on.  However, the CIA and military establishment (and Johnson) never forgave Kennedy for not attacking Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.  Of course there is a lot we will never know.
 
 
Bill Kamps Added Jul 17, 2017 - 9:42am
JFK got his dark side from his family, it was a pretty corrupt bunch, and if we need evidence of Karma, look no further  than the  tragedy filled Kennedy family.   Joe the manipulator, had to sit out his final years in silence after his stroke, more Karma.
 
George, there is a lot we will never know, because of conflicting accounts and lies.  LBJ's alleged mistress tells a story of the party at the Murchison's where LBJ in effect tells everyone JFK will be shot.  An investigator tries to verify her story and says that the notable attendees were elsewhere.  However, most of them weren't that far away that they couldnt have gotten to the party by late evening.  Most were in the state, near Dallas.  So maybe the party happened, maybe it didnt, or maybe her attendee list was exaggerated by one or two people.  However, the Murchison's maid tells a very  similar story, and of the celebrating that occurred after the assassination.
 
While most in the US find fault with the Warren Commission, in Texas the feeling is more strong that the CIA had him killed, and LBJ knew it was going to happened, but did not instigate it, or try to stop it.  Those on the Warren Commission knew they were telling a story, they spun the evidence the  best they could, but it really was a tortured story.  They were told the Russians did the deed, and so this was the better story to tell the voters, "for the good of the country".  We heard that phrase a lot back then, not so much any more.
Nancy E Head Added Jul 17, 2017 - 10:42am
My husband is one who believes Kennedy died because of his plan to get us out of Vietnam. As you say, we may never know for sure. Jackie Kennedy once spoke of records to be released 75 years--after his death or hers--I don't remember. 
George N Romey Added Jul 17, 2017 - 1:01pm
Good comments Bill and Nancy.  We should remember anyone that makes it to the Office of President has had to do some nasty things over the years and more recently probably needs to be an uncontrollable narcissist to want to run (just look at the two characters we had in 2016).  We need to stop thinking of leaders as good or bad and instead as a totality.  Jimmy Carter was probably the most morale man we saw in the 20th century albeit he was a victim of bad timing on the economy and not just a very good manager.  
John G Added Jul 18, 2017 - 2:23am
E. Howard Hunt all but admitted to being one of the shooters.
wsucram15 Added Jul 18, 2017 - 3:23pm
Patrick, in some states..like Presidents of today hes was not popular.  He was in Texas campaigning because it was a weak state for him, there were also other problems and the security was bumbled from start to finish.
Now I am not a forensic expert and I really hate to talk about this, my mother was fascinated with Kennedy and conspiracy theories. I didnt believe her until 1992 when I took my first trip to Dallas/Ft Worth.  I saw the Book depository and the plaque where he was shot.  I realize Oswald was supposed to be a Russian sharpshooter or some such nonsense but to hit Kennedy where the auto was at, he would have had to lean out of the window at an angle.  Also in the films his head goes back, not forward and the exit wound (the back of the skull missing and on the back of the car as told by repeated witnesses). 
Mrs Kennedy held the skull together so the brain didnt fall out.  Im sure some of you have seen the site and even recreations, but its almost an impossible shot.  I imagine it could be done and perhaps he shot the rifle, maybe even hit them, but he didnt kill Kennedy.
Too coincidental, both Kennedy brothers, MLK jr, MalcolmX, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton (killed by police while asleep). Even Chappaquiddick had some undertones of a warning. Much later, JFK jr who was going into politics..shall I go on? 
You cannot tell me almost an entire family was just murdered by just some people. Come on.  I dont know who killed or set up whom, I just know it wasnt random. 
 
Good people die young...its just that simple.
wsucram15 Added Jul 18, 2017 - 3:26pm
George I agree about Jimy Carter and people made such fun of him.
he was a good man and while not a superior politician, he was a GOOD man and had the welfare of America at heart.  At 92, he still does.
George N Romey Added Jul 18, 2017 - 4:48pm
Jeanne our country lost out two times in the 21st century. First when the Democratic Party forced FDR to take Wallace off the VP ticket in 1944 and in 1963 when JFK was shot.  The shadow government won both times.
wsucram15 Added Jul 18, 2017 - 9:08pm
I agree  about the 20th century and my Grandfather would have agreed.  Smartest man I have ever known, I dont even remember him being a Democrat, he just liked who he liked.
But in the in the 21st century, somehow the cost went up and we have no figures like back then..think about it.
George N Romey Added Jul 19, 2017 - 6:34am
Jeanne I think by RR the Deep State/Shadow government was really beginning to take over, more so from an economic/globalist perspective.  I'm sure you remember how we were told large global companies would provide us all a great economic and personal financial future with untold opportunities.  It was all just a con game to impoverish the many for the favor of the very few.  The days of a Henry Wallace are sadly over but possibly with a collapse and rebirth new leaders will emerge.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 20, 2017 - 12:55pm
A lot of people die in politics and we never learn why.  Look at all the friends and associates of the Clinton's that have died at an early age.  Impossible to say how that happened, but it isnt normal for the average person. 

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