Why Isn't AIPAC Illegal

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I have been hearing a lot lately about how it is illegal for foreign governments to intervene in US elections, particularly with regards to Russian interference. So what's the deal with AIPAC? Doesn't the fact that it includes the name of a foreign government in its name make it the arm of a foreign government and thus mean that it is an illegal organization? Or are PACs excluded?

 

So if the Russians set up a pact, ARPAC, would that then allow them to intervene in our elections? Or what about ASPAC? American Syrian political action committee.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm getting sick and tired of how we allow Israel to bully us into behaving according to their whims. We should insist they open up Gaza, pay for the weapons we supply them with, and have the same rules of immigration that we have for other countries. Oh, and all lobbyists from Israel should have to register just like from any other country. 

Comments

Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:07pm
Marko
 
Right on.
mark henry smith Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:09pm
Hate to keep harping on Israel, but it's like that dog down the street, a little, yappy dog that everybody's afraid of because it is a biter, has such a deep bark, and such a wealthy, unstable, disagreeable master, so no one raises a sink. Except in the home of the dog you hear them fighting about the dog all the time and you hope that eventually they'll train it to behave. 
George N Romey Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:33pm
I agree too much of our involvement in the Middle East is to appease the Israel lobby.  I have to give it to Bernie Sanders, a Jew at that, actually willing to stand up to AIPAC
Dino Manalis Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:42pm
Foreign meddling is common, nothing new, Democrats just want to blame Trump for colluding with Russians to excuse Hillary's loss.  It's pure fantasy!  A joke!
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 15, 2017 - 4:51pm
They allow AIPAC to be exempt from the usual rules, along with Israel in general because the government's foreign policy is based on the Bible. Got to protect Israel at any cost to be a "blessed nation". Got to keep Israel afloat so it will be there allowing Jesus to return as per Bible prophecy. After that the Jews, all that don't convert, can all die off (also as per Biblical prophecy). The Israelis obviously aren't on board with this lunatic plan, but they use foolish American belief in Biblical prophecies to their advantage. You thought it was 2017? More like 300AD in the small minds of those in charge. Be afraid, be very afraid. 
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 5:31pm
'Israel' is the empire's attack dog in the ME. It serves to destabilise and fragment and it serves as a lab for US weapons, oppression and psychological operations.
It also serves to keep Europe weak and servile.
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 6:13pm
This is what General George Brown, USAF, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1974 to 1978, said about Israeli influence:
 
"It's so strong you wouldn't believe now. We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We say we can't possibly get the Congress to support that. They say, 'Don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress.' Now this is somebody from another country, but they can do it. They own, you know, the banks in this country, the newspapers. Just look at where the Jewish money is."
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 15, 2017 - 7:58pm
That is certainly true Michael, but the question question remains, why is this kind of thing tolerated. It is my assertion that it is because those in charge are afraid to oppose Israel. Not because of anything they fear Israel could do in retaliation. But because they are afraid to not support Biblical prophecy. Our supposed 1st world superpower is governed by religious superstition and fundamentalism. That is the big secret they won't talk about but can't deny or otherwise explain. 
Michael B. Added Jul 15, 2017 - 8:22pm
Jenifer, it's crystal-clear to me why that is - any criticism of Israel instantly labels the person doing the criticizing as a racist, anti-Semitic pig. However, most Americans have been conditioned by decades of propaganda and manipulation by the government, various churches, and others to accept the status quo. Better the Holy Lands be in the possession of Jews than those infidel Muslims; I've heard that sentiment uttered many times.
John G Added Jul 15, 2017 - 8:33pm
Islamophobia feeds the necessary public compliance for their resource wars in the MENA. 
They always have to invent an enemy that the public can hate. It doesn't have to be even vaguely true or logical but the public will go along.
Look at this place. So many establishment believing robots propagating establishment lies against their own self interest.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 1:45am
They always have to invent an enemy that the public can hate.
 
The left has a remarkable history of doing just that. I'm sure other political persuasions have learned from them.
 
Finger-pointing at fancied scapegoats on whom it blames its ideologically-driven policy failures is Standard Operating Procedure for the left. A fine tradition.
John G Added Jul 16, 2017 - 2:21am
The USA has supported every right wing military dictatorship on the planet and opposed and fought every popular social movement on the planet since WW2.
Health care, education, infrastructure, work, dignity are all to be fought.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 2:42am
The left was the single greatest teacher and inspiration of the far right socialists. Fascists and National Socialists watched the communists closely and realized they could achieve many of their goals of social control by means of organized coercion. For the left, might makes right, and the end justifies the means. Those were important lessons for the right.
John G Added Jul 16, 2017 - 3:02am
"Far right socialists"
It's impossible to have a conversation with the Humpty Dumpty fucktards that want to bend language rather than converse.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 3:04am
There's nothing inherently "left" about socialism. There's socialism of the left and socialism of the right. Read some books, why don't you.
John G Added Jul 16, 2017 - 3:15am
Socialism is the left.
That's it. 
John G Added Jul 16, 2017 - 3:16am
Corey has had his Oxycontin fix today.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 3:22am
Socialism is the left.
 
You mean, Socialism has left. And that really is it, since it added nothing to progress, peace, or goodwill.
 
Unless, of course, one considers the jackboot of the state standing on one's neck to be conducive to progress, peace, and goodwill. Obviously, John G does. That's why he, she, or it considers himself, herself, itself to be a man, woman, pile-of-rubble of peace.
Paul Austin Murphy Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:00am
"It's impossible to have a conversation with the Humpty Dumpty fucktards that want to bend language rather than converse." - John G
 
But John G doesn't even try to have a conservation with anyone he disagrees with. Instead, he abuses them and uses teenage ad hominems; as this comment - among dozens of others - clearly shows.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:07am
PAM thinks he has a right to his own opinions, and he does. But the problem is that he also thinks he has a right to his own fake facts and reality. He doesn't. 
Billy Roper Added Jul 16, 2017 - 7:47am
The resident Shabbos Goy doesn't want to chime in on this? Oh, it was Saturday, probably he had (((things))) to do.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 16, 2017 - 9:05am
Jenifer, I think they are afraid to oppose the Jewish money, not the prophesies, but that is just my opinion.
George N Romey Added Jul 16, 2017 - 11:20am
Bill you are right.  Money=Power.
Bill Kamps Added Jul 16, 2017 - 11:58am
Tom, in politics money is pretty influential.  I would also say that politicians dont want to lose any blocks of vote.  That is why they always dance  around giving a straight answer to any controversial issue.  A straight answer usually annoys one group or another, and when it comes to Israel its pretty tough to find a politician who will call out Israel about anything.
 
Obama tried to stand up to Israel, clumsily annoyed them, and got no benefit because of how he went  about it.  It didnt help that he played into the narrative that he is a Muslim, and wasnt born in the USA.
 
Even when Israel was caught spying on us, we just brushed it off and as nothing much, and a disagreement among friends.  What they did was more serious than stealing a few emails from the DNC.  Had Israel stolen the DNC emails, everyone would have had a good laugh, and said they stole nothing of value  from an unprotected server.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:00pm
But the problem is that he also thinks he has a right to his own fake facts and reality.
 
But you have a right to your own fake facts and reality?
 
Not.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:03pm
Of course George (definitely not a saint) can point out nothing of the kind of slander he claims. Typical for a Right-Wing nutjob asshat. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:41pm
Typical for a Right-Wing nutjob asshat. 
 
Intellectually bankrupt, I see. Not surprising.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 5:55pm
Nothing of any substance to backup your empty slanders huh (definitely NOT a saint) George? THAT is what is not surprising. All you braindead extremists are any good for is randomly lashing out at anyone different from you without reason or provocation. The very definition of a mindless bully. I eat bullies for breakfast. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:06pm
Nothing of any substance to backup your empty slanders
 
Your vapid posts are substance enough.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:09pm
What a completely useless fool you are George (definitely NOT a saint). Go back to fighting make believe dragons. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:11pm
See what I mean?
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:13pm
Nope. No one sees your delusional fantasys jackass. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:18pm
No one sees your delusional fantasys jackass
 
I think everyone sees the vacuity of your posts except you. Your denial is understandable. Other ignorant anti-Semites on this board sympathize with you deeply.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:20pm
Antisemite? Right! Lol! More empty evidence-free accusations from the hypocrite racist George (definitely NOT a saint). Hilarious. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:31pm
Heh, boy George,
 
Hey, stupid.
 
I hereby officially anoint you a WriterBeat Troll (WBT). 
 
Many of us confer on you the honorary title of "Nazi Boy-Toy Fantasist Extraordinaire" (NBTFE). Congratulations!
 
How's your library research coming along regarding Hebrew-English translations from the Talmud? Or are you still lazily relying on inaccurate YouTube videos by other NBTFEs?
 
Curious Minds Want To Know.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:31pm
 More empty evidence-free accusations
 
Your own posts provide all the evidence one needs.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:36pm
George (definitely NOT a saint) writes "Your own posts provide all the evidence one needs." 
And yet you can't point to a single antisemitic post. I rest my case. You are just a extremist right wing nutjob who slanders people different from you. And you are a misogynistic racist who attacked me because I am a black woman. Hypocrite supreme. 
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 6:40pm
As long as people are asking the right questions, I don't mind if they disagree with me.
 
And who decides which questions are "right"? You?
 
Not.
 
You're too stupid and anti-Semitic to make that sort of decision.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 7:11pm
such a clever way with words... "you're too stupid and anti-Semitic" 
 
All right, "You're the reigning Prince of the Incognescenti", if you prefer. Same meaning, different words.
Saint George Added Jul 16, 2017 - 7:57pm
You looked up the meaning of "incognescenti" but you're too lazy to look up the precise meaning of "goy"?
 
You're hopeless.
John G Added Jul 17, 2017 - 3:55am
St George is the former Peter Corey.
mark henry smith Added Jul 18, 2017 - 12:46pm
I apologize for taking so long to get back to this. 
 
St. Georges is the mythical town where I grew up and the home town of Marko Noyes, my fictional alter-ego. Peter Corey is aware of all of this, I now see. He's read my stuff. It's all here, the opening chapters of my Noyes novels, which are only drafts.
 
Anyway, back to this topic, why do we tolerate Israeli interference in our elections? Why do we tolerate different rules for Jews?
 
Well, that's simple, isn't it? We've allowed Jewish people to write our laws and they have written laws that are self serving. I fear that we are again allowing the Jews to set themselves up as sacred cows in this country, and when the people get hungry they eat the sacred cows because they've become so passive, making easy targets.
 
A friend of mine's father once wondered why people consider the Jews so smart when it doesn't appear they've been able to figure out why nobody likes them, or how to change that attitude.
 
I have to believe that the reason the ex-senator from Connecticut wasn't willing to be vetted for FBI director was that it would have come out that he was a paid lobbyist for Israel while a senator. How many of our politicians are paid lobbyists for Israel? Why isn't it required that this be public information?
 
And yes, it makes perfect sense that our government would back a repressive regime in Israel, because that's what we do all over the world. It's business and business finds democracy to be a messy business in which to do business, particularly leftist democracies that think they have the right to nationalize things they don't own just because these things exist in their country and these things have exploited the people.
 
So we give a nod of approval to Saudi Arabia, the most undemocratic country in the world today, a known funder of terrorists who kill American troops, but who has some kind of secret arrangement with Israel to dominate the region.
 
Has anybody wondered about the miracle of modern Germany? What changed to make this messy. little country into one of the world's economic mights? Could it be that not having the influence of Jewish business, media, and intellectuals causing unrest and syphoning money out of the country has allowed the Germans to become a stronger, more unified nation?
 
I know that sound anti-Semitic, but it's not. It's just a question. If we find that a group is a hindrance to national welfare, what right do we have to deal with it? Do you think a Muslim ban is an effective way? What about not allowing people with dual citizenship to serve in government posts, since their dual allegiances might make them less committed stewards of our national interests?