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The following is a copy of an email dialogue between myself and a prospective Writer Beat user that decided not to participate.  Start from the bottom.  My final response is in the comment thread.  

 

From Rob

 

I understand how you feel, but I think there's a big difference between allowing certain views and participating or facilitating forums where they appear gives the impression of passive approval. We are, after all,known by the company we keep. Saying that someone has a right to say or write what they want and giving it a platform are two different things.

And I think articles like this  go beyond mere disagreement and fall into the latter category.  

While the author is quite correct that Adolf Hitler was in many ways a progressive pioneer, and not insane in the least,  the article likewise contains outright falsehoods and is pretty explicit in its disdain of Jews. The views expressed aren't really original, but date back to the old Tsarist forgery 'The Protocols of Zion.'  In fact, it's this sort of article, written by people like Houston Stewart Chamberlain and Heinrich Gotthard von Treitschke that nurtured and inspired Hitler's war against the Jews.

 

Again, my apologies for any upset this caused you. And certainly you have the right to publish whatever you want. OTOH,  I feel it's my choice to draw a line at what I want to participate in. And this stuff goes way over that line.

 

Perhaps this might give you some food for thought, perhaps not.

 

In any event, I appreciate that you enjoyed my article and invited me to participate. I regret that I feel I can't in principle.

 

To Rob

 

No apology needed and no inconvenience caused.  For whatever it's worth, I don't understand how one can claim to be a proponent of free speech but choose not to participate with my site because you disagree with the content of a handful of the articles. I'd also like to remind you that the speech in most need of protection is that which we disagree with the most.  

 

From Rob

 

I went and took a look at your site and noticed that it allows some fairly vicious and largely fallacious anti-semitic articles to be published.

 

I have certain considerations about where i allow my articles to appear. Based on what I saw on your site, I'd prefer that my article NOT be published there

 

I'm very much a freedom of speech guy, and if your site wants to publish that kind of rot you certainly are within your rights. But I prefer not to be part of it. It's the same kind of thing you'd see on Storm Front.

 

I very much appreciate your asking me, and I apologize for any inconvenience. It's my fault for not looking at the site first.

Comments

Autumn Cote Added Jul 24, 2017 - 11:29pm
Rob,
I’m not upset and there is no need to continue to apologize. 
 
“I think there's a big difference between allowing certain views and participating or facilitating forums where they appear gives the impression of passive approval. We are, after all,known by the company we keep.”
 
I couldn’t disagree more.  Based on that passage you shouldn’t participate anywhere online as one is bound to encounter some form of hate speech, which by your logic, means you condone hate speech. Besides, there is an easy way around this perceived problem of yours and that’s to use Writer Beat under a pseudonym.  So please don’t blame anyone but yourself for the reason you choose not to participate. 
 
As for food for thought, I’ve thought about what you’re saying and believe in no uncertain terms that free speech is better than filtered speech.  For whatever it’s worth, my brother/partner in this venture agrees with you. 
Michael B. Added Jul 24, 2017 - 11:38pm
I'm still debating whether or not to introduce more porn-themed articles on WB, lol!
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 12:03am
Michael B.
If you pray for guidance in your debating, would that be considered
Mass Debating?
Michael B. Added Jul 25, 2017 - 12:21am
Expat, if you were the lead fisherman on a boat, would that make you the Master Baiter? LOL! Damn, where's Captain J. Gilbert when we need him!
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 12:31am
http://www.federalistblog.us/2008/10/freedom_of_speech_and_of_the_press/
 
One big modern error in interpreting freedom of speech and press comes from not treating it as freedom from government shielding itself against public examination of its affairs through use of criminal libel or license but as a right to be heard or seen. Newspapers were never under any obligation to publish whatever someone had to say no more than a university or town was viewed obligated to provide persons with a public soapbox. It is all about government and its agents subjectively determining what speech or publication it considers defamation against government and punishing such without truth being a defense.
Finally, opposition to speech or press restrictions for purpose of public decency or order is a political question and not a judicial one. By making it a judicial question serves only to uproot the great liberty of the people to govern themselves under their own chosen laws and sense of norms.
 
In other words Autumn. It is your choice what to publish on WB, and what to avoid or promote. I see nothing noble in promoting vile propositions in the name of freedom.
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 12:42am
Nor do I see nobility in promoting belief, while deleting argument.
There is no such thing as free speech in terms of social intercourse.
If we tell our lady she is getting fat, we can forget sex for awhile. If we meet in a bar, and you call me stupid, you better have a good dental plan. If you go into the ghetto with a sign that says "I hate Niggers." (A scene from Diehard), you better be able to run fast!
And if you publish your intent to kill the president, be prepared to meet the Secret Service.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 1:22am
Personally I say go for it Michael. There is enough violence in the world and not nearly enough Pornography. 
 
Unrelated, judging from the articles listed below someone needs to explain to William that one can delete their own duplicate articles. Changing their titles to "delete this article" is lazy. Plus shouldn't that read, please delete this article? 
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:08am
Expat, if you were the lead fisherman on a boat, would that make you the Master Baiter?
I think Expat is more like Seaman Staines.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:12am
Whom are you shilling for, John G?
 
Curious minds want to know.
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:16am
I'm just searching for the truth, like so many.
 
TomTit plays the world's smallest violin, waxing sentimental about his virtue and integrity.
 
Brings a tear to my glass eye.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:18am
Another good example of bold faced trolling here Autumn in this "George" attacking John for absolutely no reason and completely unprovoked. I don't expect you to act on this, but pretending such an obvious troll is anything except what they obviously are is simply dishonest. 
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:27am


Another good example of bold faced trolling . . . 
 
I think you mean, "bare-faced", not "bold faced."
 
You've confused a feint with a font.

Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:30am
I would say nice try at deflection but it's beyond poor, "George". My statement stands. 
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:33am
Autumn likes to excuse trolls as having a "position", yet your only action here "George" has been to attack John without provocation or any stated cause. Exactly what "position" is that Autumn, please do tell. Going to have to become a contortionist to bend the facts enough to excuse the outright trolling of "George" as anything else this time. 
Saint George Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:41am
Whom are you trolling for, Kooky Kemetian?
 
John G has been a troll here for a long time. Everyone here knows it.
 
I don't "attack." I merely respond in kind.
 
No one here likes John G. Even John G doesn't like John G; but his integrity and self-honesty are just too low for him to admit it.
 
If you're unhappy, just leave. We'll miss you very much. And that's no bold-faced, er, uh, bare-faced lie.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:50am
"George" essential confesses himself as a troll in his last post with personal attacks against me, Ad Hominem garbage, which he is famous for. That and lies about John. Unless Corey, er, "George" again creates another fake account to impersonate John again he can't create the fake John post "George" claims to respond to being that the only real John post here was to Expat. What's next "George" will you pretend to be Expat? Curious minds want to know.... 
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:17am
Corey ; I don't "attack." I merely respond in kind.
LOLz.
All you do is attack and troll. You're an aggressive zionist shill.
Autumn Cote Added Jul 25, 2017 - 7:30am
Tom,
I don’t want you to leave.  As for my brother, let’s not go there.  For whatever it’s worth, that link was to one of your articles. 
 
Expat,
It’s not my choice what to publish on Writer Beat, I’ve left that decision up to all of you.  As for what articles to promote, I promote those authors that comment on the work of others, the content of their articles matters very little.
 
Jenifer,
John and Saint George have a history of going after each other.  If one ignored the other and the one being ignored still pursued and attacked, I would put an end to it, as stalking is against the rules.  I’d do the same for you.  In other words, all you have to do is ignore Saint George, if he keeps coming after you, I would do something about it. 
 
To all,
Another newbie in need of some feedback:
http://writerbeat.com/articles/17671-Back-to-Healthcare-Reform-School
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 25, 2017 - 8:15am
https://youtu.be/tX6ggRByE8g
 
Something to cool you guys down :-)
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 8:17am
Autumn responds:
Expat,
It’s not my choice what to publish on Writer Beat, I’ve left that decision up to all of you.
 
Isn't that what all this discussion is about?
Isn't that why we have all this discontent; including your brother?
 
I personally agree with you. But there are a few that go over the top.
Perhaps you should have a category called Trash Can, where you could put those who grossly violate civil discourse. Leave a note where the comment was, and anyone wishing to play in the trash can go!
 
I still want to know if you are Autumn Cote, the Professional Lady Arm Wrestler?
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 8:32am
Michael B.
The good Captain is trolling other waters. We both live where help with any kind of baiting is close by. We don't read pornography, we live it whenever the mood strikes.
 
About 6 months ago, Police nicknamed me the Movie Star. I would publish the story, but it is more than westerners can handle!
George N Romey Added Jul 25, 2017 - 9:36am
Autumn are there still issues with the website?  I tried saving an article last night and it looks like it was published by not showing on the page of articles?  I didn't want to publish before the 48 hours were up.
Janie Smith Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:15am
I agree with Autumn.  Also, just for the record, Tom might have a particular view point that appears to be anti-semetic, but I am not sure I would call it "hate speech" just because he argues the validity of a historic event.  The one thing that I do know about Tom is that he is also one of the most polite contributors in this forum.  
Paul Austin Murphy Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:22am
"I understand how you feel, but I think there's a big difference between allowing certain views and participating or facilitating forums where they appear gives the impression of passive approval."
 
People who have a deep problem with freedom of speech always dress it up with seemingly subtle justifications. It ends up that they don't, in fact, believe in free speech!
 
There are all sorts of stuff on this website I very much disagree with. However, these people should have the freedom to say what they say. I should have the intellectual courage to read what they have to say... Echo chambers - of the Left and Right - are very unhealthy. (John G, at one point, though that I wanted to ban him from this website. What a high opinion he has of himself!)
 
"We are, after all,known by the company we keep."
 
Yes, but that doesn't apply to a website like this. The owner of this website isn't personal friends with anyone who contributes here. That's a big difference.
 
"While the author is quite correct that Adolf Hitler was in many ways target="_blank">a progressive pioneer...."
 
So let's get it all out in the open!
  
"For whatever it's worth, I don't understand how one can claim to be a proponent of free speech but choose not to participate with my site...." 
 
The well-known Voltaire quote is germane here: "I may not like what you say; though I'll defend your right to say it." (Yes, it's a paraphrase.)
 
Autumn Cote Added Jul 25, 2017 - 12:03pm
Expat,
I see very little discontent.  Rob’s opinion matters very little because he doesn’t use Writer Beat.  Perhaps if I filtered content he’d use it, perhaps not.  I’m far more worried about all the current users that might leave if they thought I was moderating the site.  As for my brother, he’s already stated that Writer Beat is my baby. 
 
George,
Yes, there are still technical issues affecting the site.  I was mad at you when I saw you posted something prior to the 48 hours, but all is forgiven seeing it was an accident. 
 
Tom,
http://writerbeat.com/articles/17669-Hitler-Zion-and-WWII---The-Victors-of-War-Write-the-History
 
Janie,
In my opinion hate speech is often just code for speech one doesn’t like.   
 
Paul,
Great comment.  Rob is basically talking about guilt by association and I think it’s a major stretch to suggest he condones everything written on Writer Beat if he chose to participate.  By that logic, if he uses Facebook, does that means he condones everything written there?
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:26pm
"In my opinion hate speech is often just code for speech one doesn’t like." 
That's kind of how I view hate crimes. It's a hate crime if I hate it. At least that was good enough for Michael Scott from The Office. 
George N Romey Added Jul 25, 2017 - 2:42pm
Autumn still not seeing my article yet on the homepage although in my profile it shows published.
Janie Smith Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:07pm
NP, Tom.  Just the truth as I see it.  You know what I think is an injustice? Someone who would make such a broad judgement from such a narrow sample. Whether its one author or Writer Beat in general. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 25, 2017 - 3:21pm
Tom
 
WB is the only place where a handful of us can act as gatekeepers against the faithless, anarchist left
 
Can you swim ? ;-)
George N Romey Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:53pm
Tom while I might not always agree with you, you have opened my eyes and caused me to do some research on the US and WW2.  I've found out that much of the US was either sympathetic to Hitler or at least very neutral about the war until the US plunged in.  Some saw both the Germans and Russians as even ilk.  Hitler initially cured many of the hard economic woes of Germany and its why so many Germans followed him into war, despite what they experienced from WW1. 
 
The same was true of WW1.  We had American business playing both sides until 1917.
 
As far as Rob.  If he would have spent enough time on the site he would have seen a variety of articles with numerous opinions.  Not all subjects here on WB interest me and I find I'm better off not trying to change opinions that aren't going to be changed.  Better to live and let live sometimes.
Janie Smith Added Jul 25, 2017 - 4:55pm
Tom, here might be where we diverge, :-)...but...your right...for like minded, its probably either WB or The Blaze...lol
Janie Smith Added Jul 25, 2017 - 5:17pm
Yes, I do. :-)
Janie Smith Added Jul 25, 2017 - 5:18pm
I think... 
John G Added Jul 25, 2017 - 7:05pm
WB is a hotbed of extremist right wingers and neofascists. Most of whom spend their energies on whining and moaning about 'the left' which they invariably have little to no knowledge or understanding of.
So they burn down strawmen and construct twisted ad hominem attacks on this imaginary homogenous left.
Then they whine and project when they get criticised or corrected and use rhetorical tricks like tone policing to divert and hide.
Fascism has arrived in the mainstream 'conservative' side of politics. Or more correctly the conservative side of politics has moved so far to the right that it has reached fascism.
Worse the mainstream liberals (not progressives or leftists) seem intent on following them.
Late stage financial capitalism, interesting times.
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 9:03pm
 
Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Leroy Added Jul 25, 2017 - 9:19pm
Expat, can that be the inverse or would that be called something else?  For example, it is quite common here for some to claim they are critical thinkers and everyone they disagree with is not.
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 10:10pm
Leroy. Yes, of course that is true. But I am afraid you are projecting your insecurity on others. If someone is a critical thinker, it is up to you to agree or disagree critically. Not just use innuendo or dispersions to alleviate your own disbelief.
"He thinks he is so smart." Is a childish reaction to doubt, without proof!
 
Please be specific. Who is claiming to be a Critical Thinker? I haven't seen it! Are you a Critical Thinker? New ideas can be challenging, especially when you want to believe you know everything.
Leroy Added Jul 25, 2017 - 10:37pm
Curiously, I get 133 hits for critical thinking on Writerbeat.  Still too lazy to post the links for you.  How could you miss it?
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:01pm
Leroy. I hope your 133 hits didn't hurt too much. You say that being a critical thinker is by implication. Would that not require  a certain level of criticality on the part of the thinker?
There are times when Bill H. has displayed Critical thinking, and there are times when he has displayed a complete lack of understanding. Does that mean he is a part time thinker? Or does it mean he agrees with me some of the time?
George is a one trick pony. He is victim of an economic system controlled by Those people! Nothing Critical here!
I would suggest that instead of trying to quantify others, you try improving yourself. I know you resent my world knowledge, but that is your problem. Why  compare yourself to someone you don't even know? In the grand scheme of things, we both are ignorant!
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:03pm
P.S. Leroy. Where on WB, can I find this critical thinking meter you got 133 hits from? How silly!
Leroy Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:08pm
"I know you resent my world knowledge, but that is your problem. "
 
ROTFLMAO.
EXPAT Added Jul 25, 2017 - 11:23pm
WOW! great Critical thinking Leroy. You and Tom and John G. are all critical.
Definition of critical           inclined to criticize severely and unfavorably His critical temperament cost him several friends.
(but I doubt that the 3 of you could conjure up a thought worthy of consideration.)
 
And a KDW87EGO[PIKEDVGK'Q;DWGU,  TO YOU TO!
EXPAT Added Jul 26, 2017 - 4:15am
It doesn't seem you have anything to do other than fake an existence with other pitiful  hebetudinous clones like John G.
You continue to sink down to a Junior high mentality, and call it creative thinking.
I call it childish prattle. What is it about Psychological projection that upset you so? Was it like looking in a mirror? Was it the link to Psychosis?
Did you assume I was referring to you, or are you and John G. lovers?
Your only response to Autumn's article was to attack me. Why? It must have been festering in your mind for a long time.
EXPAT Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:45am
Have you completely lost your mind Leroy? The string is right here.
"Curiously, I get 133 hits for critical thinking on Writerbeat"
ROTFLMAO.
Tom has you pegged.
I've got better things to do than criticizing tax-dodging, broken down old men well past their prime who have nothing better to do than to get drunk and chase whores with money.  If you think I criticized you, then you are mistaken.  I just don't care that much about you to bother.
 
But I do have one question.  You have been so ornery and argumentative and disagreeable lately, I have to ask, did your favorite whore leave you, or are you becoming senile?  Just asking.  Maybe you are just tying one on again. 


Please explain the 133hits.
Can you provide ONE example of my insulting you? NO!
Leroy Added Jul 26, 2017 - 2:01pm
The Bleat Goes On
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 2:29pm
The Beat Goes?
Did anyone notice the title?  Where is it going?
 
Contrary to people calling me lazy here, I did try to delete (for a friggin hour) my redundant articles.  LOL  Help Autumn!
 
Easy to critizise, harder to find the truth.  Believe me, I know.  I criticize nearly everyone on this site ;)
Autumn Cote Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:09pm
To all;
Very sorry, but we’re having some technical issues, which is causing certain features to not work.  One of those features is the ability to delete your own articles.  I can’t even do it.  I'll let you know when we're back up and working normally.  I think it will happen within hours.  
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 3:16pm
Thankyou Autumn.  Wish we could help you!  
 
Hint . . . www.patreon.com
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:26pm
Autumn
 
No sweat. Figured it.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:28pm
William
 
Patreon...music ?? Good. Wish I was 20 again, then I'd start stuff like that ;-)
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:28pm
WB is a hotbed of extremist right wingers and neofascists.
 
WB is a classic Procrustean Bed of leftist fascists who alter history and omit facts to justify asinine governmental policies for the sake of social control. Psychologically, there are two types of people who do this: the pathetic schmoe who feels he needs his social and intellectual betters to tell him what to do all the time; or the power-lusting-tin-pot-tyrant who believes he will be one of the controllers chosen by the "elites" to force others to comply with their social engineering program.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:30pm
Patreon is a service that allows people who support your work to contribute to it and you financially. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:39pm
SG
 
WB is a classic Procrustean Bed of leftist fascists
 
LOL
 
I showed that to my friends here in Europe and they simpy said: What can you expect on a US site ? People talking about -isms they heard on a Disney channel...
 
Get your "neoliberal" warmonger fascists out of the game first before you start to talk otherwise.
 
And show your face. People who insult and don't have the courage to show face are cowards. 
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 6:51pm
Fascism is a right-wing ideology. Only an idiot would attribute it to the left. 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:16pm
"Fascism was influenced by both left and right, conservative and anti-conservative, national and supranational, rational and anti-rational".[42]
 
Recommend you edit WikiLeaks Frost.  Those idiots there got it wrong.  Cuz you know, you are the smart one (lol).  
But I would say just intellectually lazy!
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:22pm
You must have stopped your education at high school William or you would know that Wikipedia is not a scholarly resource. The fact that anyone with any or not creditable background can edit anything they want on command should be proof enough of that. The fact that nothing from Wikipedia can be cited at a college level as a resource is another hint. Wikipedia is good for useless trivia, when accuracy isn't important. Otherwise it has no value to educated intelligent people. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:35pm
People talking about -isms they heard on a Disney channel...
 
It's an easy guess that your friends are as ignorant as you are. No surprise there.
 
Regarding left-wing fascism, see this:
 
"Left-wing fascism and left fascism are sociological and philosophical terms used to categorise tendencies in extreme left-wing politics otherwise commonly attributed to the ideology of right wing fascism. Fascism has historically been considered a far right ideology, but crossovers may be expected according to the theory of extremes meet (French: Les extrêmes se touchent), where the touching point between the far left and the far right may be the use of power and/or political terrorism.
 
The term has its origins with criticism by Vladimir Lenin of the threat of anti-Marxist ultraleftism, before being formulated as a position by sociologists Jürgen Habermas and Irving Louis Horowitz."
 
Etc.
 
"Fascism" is a type of economic arrangement between the individual and the state: it lets individuals own private property in title only, while the state determines how the individual is to make use of his private property (including prices, wages, interest rates, mode of production, terms of sale, etc.). That kind of economic arrangement can easily be accommodated under political systems calling themselves "socialist" or "leftwing."
 
Don't be content with being such a conformist, Friedli. Try reading outside of your narrow range of interests and broadening your mind. Among other benefits, it might make your posts more interesting.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:37pm
Ok Frost.  Then I'll just start making my own shit up like you and Tom . . . because everyone else is wrong.  OMG!
 
You two are wandering the peaks without any oxygen.  LOL
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:45pm
The extremist right created fascism William just as the extremist left created communism. Own it. Otherwise just look ridiculous like "George" the ZioNazi who would have us believe that shit from the right doesn't stink and extremism is good, the more extreme the better. A complete maniac manifesto. 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 7:54pm
Just remember Frost.  And please take this constructively as you can . . . 
 
. . . when everyone else is wrong, you should probably question if it is you that is wrong.
 
Corollary:
If everyone else is difficult to get along with, then you are probably the difficult one.
 
Just a bit of advice there.
Autumn Cote Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:13pm
George,
I just post your article and will not promote it to the email database.  As always, many thanks for your participation with Writer Beat!
 
http://writerbeat.com/articles/17835-America-s-Obsession-With-Hegemony
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:31pm
Just remember William, everyone use to think the earth was flat. Everyone was wrong. And besides everyone doesn't believe the contrary garbage you are trying to front (only the left produces extremists, everything from the right is perfect and righteous) only delusional uneducated  Right-Wing nutjobs like you. If your nonsense were true there would be fascist communists, there aren't because fascism and communism are extreme opposites you idiot. Like matter and anti-matter, they don't mix and they certainly don't combine. But I guess you would have to have a decent education to grasp these simple things. Here's another maybe you can understand, if it doesn't make sense, it's probably not true. Well sir I have clearly demonstrated that what you suggest does not make a lick of sense. 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:40pm
 everyone use to think the earth was flat.
 
No they didn't. That's historically incorrect. That the earth was a sphere was known and accepted for millennia.
 
It was only in the 20th century that groups such as The Flat Earth Society formed.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:49pm
Frost,  Like matter and anti-matter, they don't mix and they certainly don't combine.
 
Here is what science says about it. 
"Antimatter and matter combine in a chemical reaction. Mixing antimatter and matter usually has predictably violent consequences"
 
But I already knew this.  You were just too lazy to look it up yourself. 
Always fun to debate you, Frost.  It's like walking in an open field with my eyes closed.  You are just too easy (I bet they all say that).
 
LOL!  Stay with cooking or knitting.  Science is not your subject.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:54pm
Matter and anti-matter do not combine you dolt they EXPLODE. That’s not a compound! Hydrogen and oxygen combine it's called water. Water is a compound, a violent explosion leaving nothing but destruction in it's wake isn't a compound! Previously I thought you were just uneducated, now I see that you are stone cold stupid! Pathetic. Anyone else would just see they were in error and bow out, but you are too stupid and just insist on digging yourself a deeper hole! Wow! 
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:56pm
Oh and P. S. takes a pretty big moron to gloat when they just made a complete fool of themselves. But you got being a moron down William. Want to stop while you are ahead yet? 
Saint George Added Jul 26, 2017 - 9:59pm
a violent explosion leaving nothing but destruction in it's wake isn't a compound
 
Yes, it is, if it's a chemical explosion.
 
"A chemical explosive is a compound or mixture which, upon the application of heat or shock, decomposes or rearranges with extreme rapidity, yielding muchgas and heat. Many substances not ordinarily classed as explosives may do one, or even two, of these things. For example, at high temperatures (> 2000 °C) a mixture of nitrogen and oxygen can be made to react rapidly and yield the gaseous product nitric oxide; yet the mixture is not an explosive since it does not evolve heat, but rather absorbs heat.

N2 + O2 → 2 NO − 43,200 calories (or 180 kJ) per mole of N2

For a chemical to be an explosive, it must exhibit all of the following:

Rapid expansion (i.e., rapid production of gases or rapid heating of surroundings)
Evolution of heat
Rapidity of reaction
Initiation of reaction
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:04pm
Oh wow Frost!  "They" explode you say.  What is "they"?  LOL!  What are the actual "things" that explode?  Look it up.  Stop being lazy.
 
Hint:  It isn't the two parts that are exploding.  LOL.  OMG.
 
This is too good. 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:28pm
Having a science discussion with Frost is like this.  OMG Funny.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:48pm
William "an explosion is a compound" keeps digging himself a ever deeper hole. Hilarious. And now he is joined by "George" the terrorist advocate. Quite the interesting company you attract William. Keep digging that hole William, but regardless of how far you dig it you can never change the laws of physics into making an explosion and the resulting nothing a compound. But I do enjoy you exposing your extremist stupidity, goes quite well with your fascist political extremism. Cheers! 
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 10:54pm
Frost, I never said, "an explosion is a compound".  Are you making shit up now?  haha
John G Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:10pm
Part of Corey's agenda here is to distort language a la Big Brother so as to render conversation and transmission of ideas that threaten his zionist fascist world view/masters.
There is no such thing as left wing fascism. It is an oxymoron.
Most of these clowns appear to have no idea of what socialism and capitalism actually are. They just spout the capitalist PR narrative as if it truth.
All that shit about competition and efficiency and raising all boats and profits being reinvested in job creation?
That's just shit.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:25pm
Now William trys to lie when he realizes his insane crazy nonsense statement won't hold water. How sad, I was hoping he would continue to push the insanity of an explosion that produces nothing is a compound, or basically nothing = a compound. Of course his posts remain to expose him:
He says "target="_blank">Here is what science says about it. 
"Antimatter and matter combine in a chemical reaction." 
 
Yes, that "chemical reaction" is called an explosion. And it's a subatomic reaction not chemical  reaction (too complicated for you William I'm sure but ask someone who went to college). And the result of this is nothing being that the entirety of the matter and anti-matter are destroyed completely. Thus the result of this "combination" the resulting "compound" is nothing. Please find and present proof here of NOTHING  being a compound! Good luck with that! 
 
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:32pm
John G writes "There is no such thing as left wing fascism. It is an oxymoron." 
Wait, so no leftwing Nazis? Damn! Then again with the NOTHING compound (and probably element zero as well) it's hard to imagine what kind of crazy these people are going to think up next. Personally I blame brain rot from Right-Wing extremism. Let the comments thread of this article serve as a warning. Kids, just say no to right wing extremism.
William Stockton Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:52pm
Well, in fact, Frost, I did go to college and now a research scientist & engineer (experimentation).
I just happened to have some time off for a sports injury.  
 
I'm not sure what you said there in your last post.  Garbled and nearly incoherent.  And I grow weary teaching you about "techmology".
Anyway.  Cheers.  Until next time.
 
P.S.  If you want to know more about science, please hit me up.  Anytime!
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:26am
JF Wait, so no leftwing Nazis?
Fascism is the fake populist front of the corporate state. When the state is overtaken by and merged with the big business interests.
A bit like America today.
Socialism is ALL about the empowerment and welfare of labour and is explicitly opposed to big business i.e. the capitalist class.
Of course the wingnuts will dissemble and fly into flights of sophistic gobbledegook and rhetorical logic mangling.
It is all a pile of bullshit.
Fascism is a phenomenon of the right. And it is aimed at keeping the left out of power often by violent means.
The Nazis wiped out the labour leaders first. Strikes were forbidden etc etc etc.
Anyone making this left wing fascist claim is an idiot or a liar. Or in Corey's case, both.
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:28am
Stockton. I did go to college and now a research scientist & engineer
Then you should be able to understand basic macroeconomics and sectoral balance accounting.
Alas.
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 2:25am
Then you should be able to understand basic macroeconomics and sectoral balance accounting.
 
He does. And like everyone else with a genuine education in basic arithmetic, he recognizes a simple accounting tautology when he sees one. Alas, you don't.
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:26am
You don't know whether he does. I'd wager not.
A tautology in this meaning being a statement of a self evident truth.
Why are you against explaining self evident truth?
 
 
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:32am
You're in no position to wager, Comrade Shillsky, since you don't understand anything either.
 
And thanks for agreeing with me about that accounting tautology. You show good sense for once.
 
According to Merriam-Webster:
 
"https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tautology
needless repetition of an idea, statement, or word"
John G Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:37am
I don't subscribe to American 'dictionaries'.  I speak English.
A tautology, in logic, is a statement of fact. It doesn't imply that the fact is widely understood, smeg breath.
Saint George Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:46am


A tautology, in logic, is a statement of fact.
 
"The sky is blue" is a statement of fact, but it's not a tautology.
"At sea level, water boils at 100-degrees Celsius" is a statement of fact, but it's not a tautology.
 
What you don't know about logic could fill a book. A logic textbook.
 
Also, I said nothing about whether a tautological statement is widely understood or not, Comrade Shillsky. Sober up.

Autumn Cote Added Jul 27, 2017 - 8:38am
Saint George & John,
I don’t get you two.  Obviously nothing productive occurs when the two of you converse yet you continue.  In my opinion, the bigger man is the one that ignores the other and stops this pointless bickering.
John G Added Jul 28, 2017 - 2:21am
AC It's not me chasing him around the board inventing positions that he doesn't have.
Only one of us is engaged in trolling/stalking. Only one is trying to disrupt conversation and only one of us believes in free speech.
Saint George Added Jul 31, 2017 - 4:19am
and only one of us believes in free speech.
 
No one's preventing you from speaking. If you don't like others replying to your vacuous posts, go away and don't post. Your substantive contribution to this board has been zero, consisting mainly of vituperative harangues. 
 
Contact your physician and ask him to increase your anti-depressants or whatever meds you're on. I'm confident almost everyone on this board would attest to your anger management issues.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 31, 2017 - 1:17pm
Not me. Sorry, Saint Brother :-)
Bob Aronson Added Oct 6, 2017 - 8:26pm
Either you believe in free expression or you don't. We cannot have quarter or half-free expression and still have a free society.
When James Madison wrote the first amendment he did so to make sure that the Government could not regulate five areas; 1)speech 2)press 3) religion 4) demonstrations or protests 5) asking the government to solve problems.
The First amendment starts with the words, "Congress shall make no law...." that means Government cannot restrict us. It has no bearing on what private groups or individuals do.
Autumn has the right to publish objectionable material or not. She chooses to do so and I agree with that decision. We will never learn how to deal with those who think differently if we don't hear from them and consider their ideas and build defenses. What they say may be vile and contemptable but hearing or reading it is the only way we can determine how to deal with it.
If evil and malicious thoughts are kept hidden, we are subject to attack from these unknown foes who will find us defenseless. To know them allows us to prepare for them and to let others know what threats exist. Autumn has the right to print. You, the reader, have the right to choose not to read it and to object to the content. No one, though, has the right to tell me what I can and cannot read. 
 

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