Most Historic Music Moment-what do you think?

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Alright..here is another music question.  What is the memory that stands out to you either televised, in person, on the radio or on record as the most important in history?  Not to you personally but something that impacted history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJNm0PP_WrA

Here is a link for some interesting suggestions and some alternates…I can think of many, many more. I took a couple of lists and added my flavor to them.

This is going to depend on your generation, but I think most people will agree on some of these.  Maybe they wont know why, but they will agree.  You can list one as a stand out or several but try to be chronological.

If I have to pick one, It will be some thing to do with the Beatles, just historically you cannot over look them in any way shape or form.  But I made a list of things that I thought affected other things or influenced others.

Here are mine -

The first  distorted guitar in 1951, by Jackie Brenston /Ike Turner Rocket 88

1954 Bill Haley and the Comets record Rock around the Clock

1954-Elvis records That’s alright Mama

1955-Chuck Berry and his Maybelline….***

1959- Buddy Holly dies..

1964- Beatles first appearance on Ed Sullivan show****

After that the Rolling Stones, The Who release albums in the US

1965- Bob Dylan is electric and releases Like a Rolling Stone

1966- Beach boys release Pet Sounds

1967- Velvet Underground and Nico is Released.  Very different type of album for main stream

1967- St Peppers is released

1969 -WOODSTOCK*** Ive only seen it on film, but the last day of the festival, who could forget  Jimi Hendrix playing The Star Spangled Banner?

1969 –Altamont Music Festival –violent and the end of an era

1970- Release of Black Sabbaths self-titled first album

1971- Stairway to Heaven is released.***

1973 Bruce Springsteens  “Greetings from Asbury Park” is released.**

1974- Ramones play first gig at CBGBs in NYC***

1976- Sex Pistols at Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester*** then in 77 release Nevermind the Bullocks

1980 John Lennon is killed**

1981-MTV launches (anyone remember The Buggles?)

1982- Thriller is released, the video drops Dec 2, 1983 @13 minutes and shown in its entirety.

1983- Motown 25 Yesterday, Today and Forever is aired and watched by 47 million people.

1985- Live Aid –maybe the best live performance by many of the bands who performed. 

1991- Nirvana release  “Nevermind** explodes and opens up airways for otherwise alternative and underground music to be seen and heard in mainstream. In 1992- Nevermind knocked MJs Dangerous out of the top slot.

1991- Lallapolooza begins- great show with Janes Addiction, others. Begins live festivals again.

1992- TLC become largest selling female recording act in history with Crazy Sexy Cool. 

1993- Nirvana unplugged, a new concept for MTV and done right after I saw them in DC.  They performed few Nirvana songs, doing mostly covers.  Also similar to when I saw them.  Not their last live show, but pretty close.

1996- You Oughta Know- Alanis Morrisette's Jagged Little Pill drops,  angry bitter song empowers women but freaks some people out.   Album stayed on bilboards charts for 2 years.

1997- everyone falls off their seats when Shania! redoes role reverses Robert Palmer's Addicted to Love video with "Feels Like a Woman".  Along with cohorts Dixie Chicks brings Country in to mainstream, even if just for a minute.

1999- Prince performs his song 1999 at NYC Times Square on New Years Eve event to close out millennium.

 

2000- music downloading for free,  and the digital revolution begins even if not for free.

2000- January-Rage Against the Machine shoots video at NYSE, some members arrested for the protest because they went inside and refused to leave halting trading.

2000- DNC- RATM- protest against the 2 party system saying "brothers and sisters, our democracy has been hijacked," and "we have a right to oppose these motherfuckers!" Riot ensues, begun by police trying to disburse the large crowd, which they did not manage. This happens again in 2008.

2002 -Lisa "left Eye" Lopes dies in plane crash (TLC)

2003- itunes begins, eventually other sites.

2003- Beyonce leaves Destinys Child and does first solo album called"Dangerously in Love

I stopped here...

If the list is off, let me know..some of this I knew, some I did not.

Let me know your important lists or even a couple add ons. 

 

 

Comments

wsucram15 Added Jul 26, 2017 - 11:52pm
I know I know..if you hate it dont comment.  Id rather write music any day of the week.
But I am working on a political piece. I am going to have to make it two parts now though. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:00am
Jeanne
 
I can only talk for myself, and for me it WAS the Beatles. When I heard "Girl" in 1965 I started at 7 to listen to music.
 
And I never stopped, and started to play myself. But the thing is that one who is really interested in music doesn't stick to what he listened to in his youth. He keeps being informed and listens to new stuff.
 
That's probably why I went into IT. There also you gotta be up to date all the time :-)
 
BTW: I think for rock and popular music two people were decisive: Frank Sinatra and Elvis. There's no ONE moment which can be fixed. Before it might have been Mozart or Beethoven (for an elite), and traditional folk of the region which were prevalent.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:05am
BTW2:
 
We of course would name different events since you're influenced by US music, me by mostly Brit and German stuff. For example: Springsteen is no big deal over here, never was. But "Autobahn" from Kraftwerk in 1974 was. That was the event that led to Techno and all the trends which followed concerning "computer music".
John Minehan Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:08am
Not a performance, but Elvis dying in '77, right after I got back from Basic. 
John Minehan Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:12am
Bit earlier, but some of Sinatra's early performances with the Dorsey Band, where he got mobbed by Bobby Soxers, kind of new way of being a working musician.
 
No one had mobbed Bing Crosby, not sure about Ross Colombo. 
Michael B. Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:13am
This is a tough one to address, because so many people and groups have made so many contributions. Personally, I'd say that hearing Fresh Fruit for Rotten Vegetables by the DKs was a more-or-less life-changing event. Them, and the first EP from the Mentors, Get Up and Die. I really haven't been the same ever since, lol.
Michael B. Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:14am
@ Stone - Funny, I love Kraftwerk, but I hate what they created elsewhere, lol.
John Minehan Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:23am
Jerry Vale to the contrary, almost no one remembers Russ Colombo.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 9:23am
Michael
 
 I hate what they created elsewhere, lol.
 
How do you mean that ?
 
But I actually don't like Kraftwerk's music or any kind of Techno or dancfloor crap. I prefer the Mentors. They're really something unique. And as far as I remember it was you who pointed me to them :-)
Dannl Yoder Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:03am
This might be lengthy.
 
For what it may be worth, 1966, The battle between the songs Rolling Stones paint it black and The Ballad of the Green Beret, was monitored by a beleaguered Pentagon, whose Hawks desperately needed to pump up Vietnam.
As far as I know, I am the only one privy to that "battle" civilian wise
My Neighbor's son, left for Viet Nam and was a side line medic when Ssgt Barry Sadler was wounded and followed his career ( Sadler wrote and Sang the Ballad, He was also Green Beret)
It can be said that the Ballad was responsible for the escalation in Volunteers who wanted to "Jump and die" (Airborne)
It can also be said that the Rolling Stones depressive "Paint it black" was responsible for the escalation of protests.
BTW, The Ballad was so very successful that the brass at the Pentagon sent word to get Sadler out of the jungles and into a safe PR environment.
"Heck! Can't have him killed! We need him!"
The rest is History. We have our own opinions.
BTW, my neighbor's son returned as a medic in Vietnam and hasms never left his front yard since.
 
 
 
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:14am
TO me it was when FM radio and rock and roll joined forces. Got to hear music and artists you would never have been heard on AM.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:15am
I heard AM. Radio Luxemburg pirate station in 1967. No FM here at that time :-)
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:16am
I think Engkand was usung pirate radio stations as well.
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:21am
Jeanne 2 things. I thought Robert Palmer did addicted to love and Eric Clapton did the 1st MTV unplugged.
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:29am
Jerry Lee Lewis records Whole Porta Shakin. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 10:52am
An unknown Malian guy invented the Ngoni about 1000 years ago which led to the guitar as we know it today ;-)
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 11:05am
Stone which came first the ngoni or the sintir. Just teasing with you. 
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 11:34am
SEF- Some guy in Spain in the 1800s made the first full bodied guitar. Those are on display in museums. Before that, believe it or not, it was Stradivarius who made something very close.
The Ngoni is considered a harp like instrument, but it does look like a mini- guitar. Its pretty cool though.
Egypt had some pretty cool instruments that looked like guitars in drawings, I have actually seen those in museums. But in researching that, they too are considered harp like.
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 12:05pm
Ric-
What year was that on the radio thing? I remember am radio and listening to Rod Stewart( Maggie May or You Wear it Well), Don McClean..etc..  Thats a big thing.  It had to be the 70s.
 
Also you are right, what did I write? I fixed it..I didnt even know I did that.  The Nirvana unplugged was different only because they had never done acoustic and No One thought it could be done.  It is one of the reasons why so many covers had to be done.  I have a video of them prepping for the session and its kind of funny actually.  
But when you realize that they performed 7 songs that were not their own, and 7 songs that were rearranged, rehearsed only once, played them "Unplugged live" in front of a crowd only one time and then left, it was pretty awesome.  (as I said they were on tour at the time). IT was done on November 18, and I saw them a couple days before that. When I saw them, they may have been practicing..they did a lot of covers.    I remember talking to Marcs Dad about that.  I only remember "Jesus Dont Want me for a Sunbeam", because I loved the song.
They did the Unplugged quick.
The producer said they usually record a song several times and for the "unplugged sessions" use the best one. Nirvana wanted a live feel, so thats how they did it, one take, mistakes and all.  It was the first recorded live like that, but it sold the most and the live style was then duplicated.  So it was a first even for MTV
 
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:27pm
If I was in DC it was early to mid 60's. First time I scanned was around 64. Trying to remember 1st song I heard but so long ago. Early psychedelic and Motown was played. 
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:29pm
Long before Innagaddadavida with came out around 68.
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:34pm
Where I was early FM took the format of what college radio does today. Played all genres. Rock soul gospel classical some pop but that was AM forte. Some of what was considered underground at the time but not called that. Garage band stuff. Never knew what was next. That's what made it interesting. Blues also and English version of blues.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 27, 2017 - 1:54pm
Jeanne
 
When I lived in Bamako I lived close by a customs area. The officers had a bar inside the compound, and one of them had a Ngoni with ONE string only, sort of the very most basic stuff. I connected it with the stereo, 
turned it up full and I had a heavy metal distorted Ngoni sound. But more than a solo wasn't possible ;-)
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 2:21pm
SEF..I see what you are saying..but its considered a harp instrument. IDK why.  Look it looked it up.  I think its coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1FMGq6gE_k
Have you ever seen some of the Eqyptian guitar looking instruments?  They look like guitars to me, but they are all called harp instruments.
Ric Wells Added Jul 27, 2017 - 2:26pm
I kinda have it here with college radio but it is still formatted. But better than anything else around here.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 27, 2017 - 3:04pm
Historic?  The release of the first 4 track recorded LP, Beatles/Geo Martin's "Sgt Pepper."  That LP changed everything as to how something sounded on disc, or what expectations someone had in studio.
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:13pm
JEff Great historical moment. Thats a good one. Between 1967-1969 were the most creative for them.
George N Romey Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:38pm
For me 90s alternative rock. The best years of my life.
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:45pm
SEF..some times, I wish I could just talk to you about this stuff not on a thread so I can understand what you are talking about.
Ok..the guitar is a lute & ngoni  is the most lute like, AND very similar to the instruments from the Pharaohs I keep telling you about. although from the looks of pictures I can see from Mali and Senegal, the "akonting" is more like the Eqyptian drawings I saw. 
You are right though, some of the most famous Ngoni players come from Mali and have a very similar style of playing to Spanish guitar.
Do you know any of these people? Ali Farka Touré, Habib Koita and Djelimady Tounkara ?
Just asking, I am aware you can play it like that, but its a bowl with a skin covering.  It looks hardened somehow though ( I watched one being made).  How were you able to plug in though..was it more sophisticated, modified?
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:48pm
I know George..but not for you personally.  What was most significant musical moment in history that changed music?
For example mine most personal moment was the Ramones and my introduction to Punk at CBGBS.
But that is not the most significant thing to music in my opinion, it would be the  Beatles.
George N Romey Added Jul 27, 2017 - 4:56pm
I agree the Beatles along with Elvis Presley.  Motown ushered in dance music.  Madonna created the idea of a singer as a brand.  Big band swing represented the happiness and the joy of the post WW2 period.  
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 5:21pm
George well thought out, I was just discussing all of this. Presley, Motown and swing from before all of it.  I really think Motown had a big influence on a lot of the music after.
The Beatles somehow took all of that and bottled it, maybe it was because it was four of them and their backgrounds and tastes were different, IDK.  Songs like Oh Darling, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Yer Blues, Hey Jude to stuff like I Wanna Hold your hand, Cant buy Me Love (which was redone by Elle Fitzgerald), Please Please Me..on and on.  They all had early blues, jazz and swing influences and loved Elvis.
But none of that could have been done with the steps taken before.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 27, 2017 - 6:59pm
wsucram15 sez: Between 1967-1969 were the most creative for them. - I've wondered over time if multi-track recording helped to kill the Beatles, since all of a sudden with multi-tracks, the musicians didn't have to "session" together, and like all impersonal things, strained relationships to beyond repair.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 27, 2017 - 7:03pm
Geo Romey sez: Big band swing represented the happiness and the joy of the post WW2 period.- Swing sound was a deal before WWII, although it could be said swing was "the music that killed Hitler."  Lots of swing influences in Kansas City, Mo where it was basically created in the dance halls, bars and houses in the Jazz district there, starting in early 30s, then well-ripped off by others.  Swing represented...swing.
wsucram15 Added Jul 27, 2017 - 7:22pm
Jeff- I have read that Abbey Road was done by them separately, which then would mean Let It Be would have been the same, if that were true as Let It Be was recorded first but released later.  But that does not disparage the stuff in 67 and 68, beside George martin was a genius.
 
I think what strained the relationships was the difference in tastes, advancing age(growing up), and the conflicts that happen within a band.  Band members each had different friends and followings by then and allowed others to interfere with things like contracts, recording, etc..  I mean they had different religious leaders who advised them even.  Come on..
If you are in a band and it is your living, its your job. You have to treat it that way.
 
Michael B. Added Jul 27, 2017 - 8:04pm
Growing up, one was either a Beatles fan or a Stones fan; I didn't care much for the Beatles then, but learned to like them more and more as I got older. I now have a Beatles anthology in my collection; I like their music from SPLHCB onward the most, by far.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 27, 2017 - 8:12pm
wsucram15 writes: But that does not disparage the stuff in 67 and 68, beside George martin was a genius.  Agreed, the ultimate "technical" producer the BBC  and music industry had.  Martin was willing to risk using the "new" in an industry that lived for "the familiar."  I've always appreciated Beatles vocal arrangements, but then that goes back to George Martin.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 28, 2017 - 5:35am
Jeanne
 
Ali Farka is dead, haven't known him since he was from Tombouctou, and I lived in Bamako. I know Yoro Diallo (a Kora player), Salif Keita and Habib Koité, also Oumou Sangaré from my time in Mali and I still have contact to Habib and Salif. Both played often in Switzerland, and Salif has his studio in the same area in Bamako (Djelibougou) where we have our house.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Jul 28, 2017 - 5:40am
BTW: I remember he offered our band Bama Saba his studio for recordings at the time, but since I broke my hand at the time I couldn't play for more than a year. And he was still living in France back then. Now, he told me he's stopped touring and went back to Bamako.
 
Since he plays guitar also, he has a vast collection of Ngonis and Kora's back home. I was impressed !
 
Kora
wsucram15 Added Jul 28, 2017 - 11:50am
Stone...Ill listen but Im trying to understand the difference between Kora and Ngoni sound.  They look similar, the kora is just larger and sounds exactly like a Spanish guitar.   I heard about 17 seconds of the Ngoni online, it sounded like a harp. So Im confused as to the sound and similarity to the guitar.  But see, I did look this stuff up, very interested in music, not the done product, but the sounds and how they are produced or made.
 
On collections, I have had friends over the years that collected various homemade or foreign instruments.  Im getting ready to dig up the number and hope at least one of them still has the stuff.  One of them, Chuck, (Marcs Godfather) is this really hardcore guy who has a Masters degree but works in music. Go figure.  Anyway, he has a big collection of odd looking guitars, mandolins, weird stuff I have never seen other than his house.  He will either have one or be able to show me one somewhere.  If not, Rick from 25taLife might have one, he has a huge collection of things from his tours all over the world. 
 
 I know about damage to the hand..I have nerve damage to my left hand.  It needs surgery but on disability you can go to any doctor within a certain radius of where you live.  I cannot get the specialists to call me back, due to the insurance.  Welcome to America.
wsucram15 Added Jul 28, 2017 - 12:00pm
MB..I could not agree more, some of my favorite music. I really think All of their stuff is unquestionably outstanding in its mix of sounds.  But with that break in touring, they signaled a change in direction of the band. 
It is the quality of the writing and instrumentation that made them who they are though.
wsucram15 Added Jul 28, 2017 - 12:01pm
Jeff..IF IF IF  George Martin put together those albums from pieces that were left for him as I read, the man was a genius and is considered so by many in music.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 28, 2017 - 6:51pm
wsucram15 implores: Jeff..IF IF IF-Yes, if? LOL  Geo Martin, as you said, was nothing short of a production Genius, whether the Beatles, or before with Spike Milligan...

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