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Get on national talk radio and suggest Hurricane Irma is a hoax.
Hurricane Irma is gathering strength over the Atlantic Ocean as it heads towards the Caribbean. Already rated Category 5, it is expected to make landfall in Florida by the end of the week, with many worried about a repeat of the havoc caused in Texas and Louisiana by Hurricane Harvey. 
None of that seems to worry Rush Limbaugh. 
On Monday, the right-wing radio personality delivered a customarily freewheeling monologue in which he seemed to suggest that hurricanes were a liberal conspiracy intended to convince the public that climate change is real.
The problem is, some people are inclined to believe this and not prepare for Irma and as a result, suffer property damage... or worse. 
And for those who don't believe Hurricane Irma is a hoax, threaten them with jail or price-gouge!
Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd went on Twitter to issue a warning to Florida residents who might seek shelter from Hurricane Irma:
If you go to a shelter for #Irma and you have a warrant, we'll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail https://twitter.com/PolkCoSheriff/status/905438093527928834 
Ride it out and risk death or face arrest for seeking shelter. Polk County has a strange way of protecting and serving.  
For what it’s worth, for those seeking to leave Florida, they’d have to be wealthy to get a flight out. Complaints of airlines price gouging are pouring in:
Complaints of price gouging are on the rise in the Sunshine State, reaching the point where Attorney General Pam Bondi has activated a hotline to report businesses suspected of taking advantage of people preparing for the storm. As of Tuesday afternoon, the hotline had received 143 calls.
One example:
John Lyons
on Tuesday
Very bad job by American Airlines. Booked a one-way ticket last night for my daughter to come home this Thursday night using this exact itinerary. Paid $160.00. Now with hurricane warnings in effect, American is gouging for the same ticket to the tune of over $1000 per person and close friends daughter who cannot afford is stranded.

Comments

Autumn Cote Added Sep 8, 2017 - 5:32pm
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Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 12, 2017 - 2:14pm
Very difficult to say Americans are this way or that way. As the airlines, 7/11, gas stations began tp rice gorge, other Americans got in gears to raise donations, to drive 2000 miles to deliver help and more. I believe when Americans are facing destruction and some chose to price gorge or act in other deleterious ways, they should be charged with high crimes and treason.
 
Then again, in Pilgrim Progress, we had a man of God selling pardons to those who believed their souls measured against the feather of Mahat would unbalance the scale.
 
Donna Added Sep 12, 2017 - 3:35pm
Hi Ed,
Good article..My buddies daughter was also stuck due to prices being so extraordinary..
Limbaugh  is an asshole, always has been.IMO.
The Polk county sheriff, should lose his job..he could have caused lives to be lost, simply by being so rude..again IMO.
Yes sad how some react, however the majority come together., and help in any way possible.
Are you in Florida?
 
Dino Manalis Added Sep 12, 2017 - 4:27pm
Rush rushes to conclusions, we have to take hurricanes very seriously and natural disasters do take place.  I'm glad Trump's response was presidential and Congress seems to be willing to provide disaster relief to help homeowners and businesses recover as quickly as possible.
Dawn Foss Added Sep 12, 2017 - 8:38pm
The acts of price gouging and looting are two of the most despicable acts we as human beings can do, in my opinion, esp. during a natural disaster. I was glad to see the FL atty. general shaming them, calling them out by name, and acting quickly to contact corporate and identify these areas of indecency and dishonesty. Those who looted businesses and broke into homes of evacuated citizens were caught and punished. Law and order was maintained. I'm sure they didn't do everything right, because how can you in such a magnitude of area, but it made my heart happy to see the government organized from the top down, and people helping people, in both Texas and FL and the surrounding areas. Animal Planet came and rescued a bunch of animals in Texas, and it's going to be shown in three segments in the next couple days, I believe. All these helpers set a great example of the good in our nation. We give way too much attention to the few bad eggs, when there are still wonderful, caring, loving, patriotic souls. I even let someone come in front of me during heavy traffic today, he waved in a friendly way, and I smiled back. It felt good, like we can pass this hospitality and friendliness forward. That's how we defeat evil, is to keep putting more and more good out there. It feels incredible, too. :)
 
My aunt and uncle were in Ft.  Myers; I haven't heard from them yet. I hope they are OK, but they did go to a shelter.
John G Added Sep 12, 2017 - 9:31pm
Price gouging perfectly exemplifies the spirit and working of capitalism.
Saint George Added Sep 12, 2017 - 10:07pm
Price gouging perfectly exemplifies the spirit and working of capitalism.
 
Just as shortages and black-markets exemplify the spirit and working of socialism.
wsucram15 Added Sep 12, 2017 - 10:17pm
JohnG..price gouging is illegal in all states during a declared state of emergency.  Other than that 34 states have laws against it under normal circumstances.
Im hoping that was sarcasm,   but it is not acceptable to take advantage of people who need gas to get away from dying in a hurricane.  
Dawn..I hope your family are all fine.
Saint George Added Sep 12, 2017 - 10:22pm
but it is not acceptable to take advantage of people who need gas to get away from dying in a hurricane.  
 
So if you won't allow prices to level demand down to the available supply, how will you do it? Tell people to line up and wait, and then give people small rationed amounts?
John G Added Sep 12, 2017 - 10:46pm
Jeanne, I can't even begin to imagine why you thought mu comment was sarcastic.
The law is irrelevant to my statement.
Price gouging perfectly exemplifies the spirit and working of capitalism.
Saint George Added Sep 12, 2017 - 11:05pm
Price gouging perfectly exemplifies the spirit and working of capitalism.
Just as shortages and black-markets exemplify the spirit and working of socialism.
I'll take price-gouging, any time. At least you can find a bottle of water or a gallon of gasoline when you need it.
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 2:00am
Not if you're poor, Doofus.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:01am
You mean, "poor", right, skid-mark-fuckall?
 
And answer this, you morally-corrupt-rat-bastard:
 
What fucking good does it do a "poor" person if he gets in line too late to obtain his gasoline whose price has been held down by government at pre-hurricane prices, and there's no gasoline left? 
 
Answer the question you fat bloviating fart-head: HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT PARTICULAR "POOR" PERSON HIS GASOLINE? YOU RAN OUT OF GAS AT THE LOW PRICE . . . EVEN IF THE "POOR" PERSON PULLS OUT HIS WALLET AND SAYS, "I MUST HAVE GASOLINE! I'LL GIVE YOU MY CHILD'S ALLOWANCE, MY CAR, MY 401K, ANYTHING YOU WANT, JUST LET ME BUY SOME GAS FROM YOU!!!" Guess what, fuckall: THERE'S NO GAS TO BE HAD AT ANY PRICE WHATSOEVER. So much for your artificially low price being "just" or "fair". It wasn't just or fair to that "poor" person. It was only just and fair to whoever happened to get in line early . . . .even if that person happened to be filthy rich.
 
Man, you are a real fucked-up head case. Now go impale thyself on a shard of telephone pole at the bottom of a Turkish toilet.
 
[By the way, skiddy, I really did believe your mom was Turkish. Why you took offense at the idea she might be Turkish, I have no idea. Personally, I think that's a xenophobic, racist attitude on your part, but people like you who swagger into a room or a website and signal to everyone else that you alone occupy the moral high ground are usually just pretentious mediocrities and big bags of hot flatulent air. — Cheers!]
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:10am
LOLz.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:14am
Heh, heh . . .
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 4:34am
You're ensuring that this web site as as successful as it deserves to be.
The attraction that this stuff presents to prospective writers and readers is immeasurable.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:10am
Skidmark-john-g is a vile propagandist who trolls this site and enables pro-terror groups like BDS, for whom he shills. Aside from showcasing his impressive lack of knowledge in almost everything he writes about, his posts have contributed nothing of any possible interest to readers, except, perhaps, a macabre amusement.
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:11am
You're ensuring that this web site as as successful as it deserves to be.
The attraction that this stuff presents to prospective writers and readers is immeasurable.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:13am
You're ensuring that this web site is as successful as it deserves to be.
The attraction that this stuff presents to prospective writers and readers is immeasurable.
 
You're posts fill a much-need gap.
Jenifer Frost Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:23pm
What a useless fascist scumbag, anyone who supports price gouging in a declared emergency (which as WSU pointed out is ILLEGAL in most states) is less than subhuman vermin. John you are wrong, this is not an example of Capitalism, it's an example of Capitalism gone through the roof, otherwise known as Fascism. Screw any and everyone over for a buck, even if it is illegal. 
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:51pm
What a useless fascist scumbag
 
Frostbite-jennn chimes in. 
 
Thanks for your contributions to this Web site; they fill a much-needed gap.
John G Added Sep 14, 2017 - 1:09am
JF Fascism is a political facet of capitalism. 
Saint George Added Sep 14, 2017 - 2:29am
Many thanks for your contributions to this Web site. They fill a much-needed gap.
Edward Miessner Added Sep 15, 2017 - 3:34pm
Hi all! I looked over your comments and here are my impressions:
 
Dr. Rupert Green, indeed. Some will act selflessly in sigt of a disaster, others will take every advantage they'll get. Most seem to just take it in the shorts, because... What can you do?
 
Donna, hope your buddy's daughter is safe, now!
 
Dino, indeed he does, even though the hurricane went elsewhere and reduced in strength, giving him a false aura of credibility in hindsight.
 
Dawn, very well said.
 
John G and Saint George, exactly! Nice argument you got going there further down. Here's my two cents: price gouging is no guarantee that you can find a bottle of water or a gallon of gasoline when you need it. People will still buy out the store and pump the gas station dry, no matter what, when they perceive that their lives and homes are in danger! That's why I'm of the opinion that at least the poor/"poor" person gets a better chance than otherwise of obtaining supplies as everybody else, when prices are kept at normal levels.
 
Jeanne (wsucram15), and a good thing, too, it's against the law. It's one example of why the spirit and working of capitalism has to be restrained by society, through its governments. Now if the other sixteen states would get on board...
 
Jenifer, no, John's right, it is capitalism, albeit capitalism in a society bereft of ethics and morals. Fascism is the merger of corporate and government power under government control for the benefit of the corporations--themselves government-reorganised. You should read Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here. It's an eye-opener to what fascism is really like. 
John G Added Sep 17, 2017 - 12:25am
 EM Fascism is the merger of corporate and government power under government control for the benefit of the corporations--themselves government-reorganised. 
Indeed. Sold to the public with fake populism.
Saint George Added Sep 18, 2017 - 11:28pm
That's why I'm of the opinion that at least the poor/"poor" person gets a better chance than otherwise of obtaining supplies as everybody else, when prices are kept at normal levels.
 
1) There is no such thing as a "normal level" for a price. I guess you mean, "the price level before the conditions of supply and demand changed." That's the only possible meaning.
 
2) Reality has proven you wrong. Poor people who don't get in line early enough get no water, no gas, and no food. They don't get to jump ahead in the line just for being poor; nor is there any way for a supplier to screen customers to determine who is really poor, who is not so poor, who is middle-class, and who might simply be pretending to be poor to get special treatment.
 
If you favor government's taking control of food, water, gas, etc., in a crisis and rationing these things to people on an equal pro-rata basis, just say so.
Jenifer Frost Added Sep 18, 2017 - 11:36pm
No one is advocating "special treatment for the poor", but you ("George") are advocating special treatment for the wealthy. If prices are kept by law at normal levels during an official emergency everyone gets a fair and equal chance, and that idea is what burns a class warfaring fascist like "George" up. And yes, there is OBVIOUSLY such a thing as a normal price for any product. If there wasn't there would be an enormous number of online services that monitor such things out of business. 
Edward Miessner Added Sep 19, 2017 - 1:51pm
Saint George - 1) That's exactly what I meant by "normal level", i.e., the price level under NORMAL conditions! And why did the conditions for supply and demand change? Because the state declared a state of emergency and because news media scared the bejesus out of everybody! (But that's a whole 'nother story right there.)  2) And neither do the rich. But if you let people price-gouge you single out the poor for "special treatment", i.e., when they get to the head of the line like everybody else they find they can only buy less than they wanted, heck, less than they NEED, or they even have to turn around and go home without buying anything and "earning" ire from the people who waited in line after them.
 
Jenifer - you're absolutely right, with people like George advocating favoring the rich. They can afford to pay gouging prices.