POPPY MADNESS?

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POPPY MADNESS?

Since 2002 the United States has spent $8.6 billion just for the “war” against Poppies in Afghanistan and this year (2017) poppy production is UP, UP, UP! Another great job accomplished by good ol’ America!

 

 

And the stated reason is that the Taliban, which banned poppy cultivation when it ruled Afghanistan, (you know BEFORE we attacked them and started this ENDLESS war) is now involved in running its own factories, refining the lucrative crop into morphine and heroin for exporting abroad.

 

Mostly to Europe and Canada.

 

Most American heroin comes from those bad-hombres’ in Mexico!

 

And much like in Vietnam, the CIA is up to their chinny-chin-chins in running drugs as usual. Tubularsock might as well mention the big banks that launder the money too, so as not to leave anyone out.

 

Ok, just to be complete the picture, many members within the entire “democratic” Afghan government find a way to get a cut as well. Isn’t that what democracy is all about?

 

You see it is a Narco-state after all!

 

 

 

Afghan farmers are paid about $163 for a kilo (a little over 2 pounds) of the black sap from raw opium. Once refined the price is about $3500. But by the time it is shipped to Europe it wholesales for $45,000!

 

According to the United Nations in 2016, Afghanistan, which produces 80 percent of the world’s opium, made around 4,800 tonnes of the drug bringing in revenues of three billion dollars.

 

NOW DO NOT WORRY!

 

The U.S. has worked diligently to coerce local poppy farmers to shift their crop from poppy cultivation to “legal” alternatives such as wheat, barley, mustard and melons.

 

The result was that those “legal” crops are more difficult and expensive to successfully cultivate and yield much less at market than did their previous illicit poppy plants.

 

As one farmer put it, “If we plant two bags of wheat, then we’ll have just enough money to buy the seeds to plant another two bags of wheat. […] We’re going backwards. Of course we’re angry at the government.” (Common Sense For Drug Policy 9/6/17)

 

Of course, as would be predicted, those areas that were driven from poppy production in turn are the same areas where terrorism activity increased.

 

Surprised? Push people to the wall and you get a response.

 

All in all, the U.S., lost the Vietnam War, and has LOST the war in Afghanistan. And yet Orange Tweet Trump just like Step-en-fetch-it Obummer before him has entered deeper into the quagmire.

 

And all that leads to this future conversation: “Mommy why did daddy die in the war? Oh honey, like I’ve told you before, to protect the Opium Trade.”

 

 

So now you understand why the poppy is used as a symbol on “Memorial Day”!

 

Comments

Tubularsock Added Sep 9, 2017 - 2:18am
It appears to Tubularsock that the bigger the drug pusher the more investment opportunities appear. Funny how at the top of the drug chain no one EVER is responsible for their actions.
Autumn Cote Added Sep 9, 2017 - 5:49am
Please note, the second best way to draw more attention to your work is to comment on the work of others. I know this to be true because if you do, I'll do everything in my power to draw more attention to your articles.
 
PS - There is a lot I can do and would like to do on your behalf.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 9, 2017 - 12:23pm
Tubularsock,
 
If I didn't laugh, I would cry, because what you say is ever so true, and its implications run deep.
 
I've started researching the history of drug laws, going back to the law against opium by the Chinese, that led to the Opium Wars in the 1800s.  Here, the British used slave labor in India to grow poppies, and they smuggled the opium into China.  They wanted to open Chinese markets to foreign trade.  The Chinese didn't like all that gold leaving the country, and thus began the opium wars.
 
My question is, why are governments so afraid of opium?  My guess is that when people can smoke dope, they're less interested in working, paying taxes, or fighting wars. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 9, 2017 - 2:45pm
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Another goodie. All that rests to say is: It's the economy, stupid ! That covers 90% of the subjects and articles on WB.
Shane Laing Added Sep 9, 2017 - 2:51pm
Yep the Opium Wars, just another way for us Brits to make some money. Or should I say the rich and powerful to make money.
Dino Manalis Added Sep 9, 2017 - 3:09pm
The Afghan government should seize control of the territory containing poppies and use it in pharmacology to gain revenues for the government and stop funding the Taliban.
Tubularsock Added Sep 9, 2017 - 8:09pm
Katharine Otto, thank you for your comment. Tubularsock just has a feeling from observation that the “government” IS NOT “afraid of opium” or any other drug for that matter. As long as they are in control of pushing it.
 
I know you have noticed that whenever “WE” come out against something “WE” create it. Terrorism is a great example. “WE” say we are against terror and then proceed to terrorize entire countries!
 
When a single guy blows up a bus and kills a dozen innocent people “IN OUR COUNTRY” it is a shameful terrorist act!
 
When “WE” blow up an entire village and kill 3000 innocent people in THEIR COUNTRY it is called “collateral damage”.
 
So here is the question, which makes you MORE DEAD?
 
At this point Tubularsock will sit down and light up his hash pipe and think Afghanistan!
Tubularsock Added Sep 9, 2017 - 8:10pm
Stone-Eater, so true. And as long as Tubularsock’s portfolio has a solid balance between the drug trade and armaments he is laughing all the way to the bank!
Tubularsock Added Sep 9, 2017 - 8:11pm
Shane Laing, right on the money! The Queen didn’t get where she is today, being the matriarch of a dysfunctional family, by blood alone.
 
Other peoples blood, yes. And a lot of it!
Thanks for the comment.
Tubularsock Added Sep 9, 2017 - 8:11pm
Dino! Be reasonable.
 
Now tell Tubularsock, if you were in the Afghan Government and you were bringing in a huge stack of money every week from the drug runners and at the same time you were getting a huge stack of money from the U.S. Government to stop the drug trade ......... would YOU rock THAT BOAT?
Nasty Added Sep 10, 2017 - 1:05am
I don't think it is a good idea for governments to do nothing while people destroy their lives and the lives of those associated with them!
Singapore has the right idea. A mandatory death penalty for anyone associated with the drug trade. And I would include Bankers and Politicians who cooperate with them.
Nations have gone to War over the Drug trade, and rightly so. The trade has reversed and instead of Europe flooding Asia with drugs, Asia is flooding Europe with drugs. But I don't think turnabout is fair play.
Philippines was devastated with drugs and Duterte is killing thousands to stop it. Some innocents are dying in the process, recently a 17 year old dealer. But it must be stopped.
AT ANY COST!
Tubularsock Added Sep 10, 2017 - 2:44pm
Nasty, what a concept. Drugs kill so why not kill people before they ruin their lives with drugs. Seems a little counter productive to Tubularsock.
 
And then, “some innocents are dying in the process” but we’ll kill them too because the drugs must be stopped because drugs could kill people.
 
Nasty, you may want to test your theory on yourself first and see if it works. Cheers!
Katharine Otto Added Sep 10, 2017 - 4:28pm
Tubularsock,
 
And "we" are only talking about opiates.  If "we" want to consider the drug trade in toto, "we" need to discuss the addiction to Big Pharma's ever growing list of patented and generic drugs for an ever growing number of diseases "we" have invented.  "We" should consider the children "we're" addicting to Ritalin, Adderall, and other amphetamines for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, then wonder why they grow up to be cocaine addicts.  Well, cocaine is another amphetamine, but hey, we now have Adult ADHD, so drug addiction is "medically indicated" for them, too.
 
Where does it end?  
 
I agree the governments are not afraid of drugs, but one has to wonder if drug laws are a significant human rights violation.  What right do governments have to interfere or dictate which are "good" drugs and which are "bad"?
Jenifer Frost Added Sep 12, 2017 - 6:52pm
Governments are not afraid of drugs, but big Pharma is afraid of drugs and medicinal plants like cannibals that do a better job than the poisons they are peddling. 
Tubularsock Added Sep 12, 2017 - 6:54pm
Tubularsock will smoke to that Jenifer!
wsucram15 Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:05am
Now Tubularsock..my ex was a heroin addict, if you want to talk about Afghanistan and heroin...
I might do that. 
 
wsucram15 Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:11am
Tubularsock..as always food for thought and something for the CIA to fume over.  I have had more fights over this specific topic than I have politics (although politics is def in the mix here).
 
But you can legalize drugs in all 50 states..however it takes an act of Congress by 2/3 in both House and Senate to overturn the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 and all those drugs are illegal and in every state subject to seizure along with the property of every person charged. Did any of you read about the new asset forfeiture laws Jeff Sessions enacted and mandatory sentences he has demanded from the states?  

 
Until the CDS of 1970 is revoked, every person is breaking federal law and subject to penalty under the law. Now Sessions is a nut...But I would not worry about individuals yet..just the dispensary's in states that are legal.  Its legal tender and something that can be used as evidence, again making money for the system and anyone else involved.


Try to remember Federal Law supersedes State Law.
Tubularsock Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:05am
wsucram15, thank you for your comment.
 
Talking about addiction always has to be driven back to what causes a person to become addicted in the first place. No matter what one is addicted to, the problem or problems that has set up the condition is the cause.
 
And that can be a life time battle and jail is not the answer. As you know, far more than Tubularsock.
 
There is no question that Jeff is one of those bummer-trips for sure and the Federal Government has the upper hand.
 
Tubularsock doesn’t see enlightenment in the halls of Congress on any matters let alone an understanding of substance control.
 
As a society we have been headed down hill for sometime but just sometimes things change the course of history in surprising ways. Just maybe, the Devil will have Jeff choke to death on Bible pages cutting off his air supply.
 
You know God works in mysterious ways.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 13, 2017 - 1:26pm
wsucram15,
I suspect cannabis legalization will become a major states' rights issue before it's over.  That may be why the DEA, the Fed, and the feds are afraid to touch it now.  Also, I believe the longer it's allowed, the more the public will take the side of the states, so Jeff Sessions and his ilk will be outnumbered and outclassed.  He is already way out of line, according to me, and the DOJ has been out of line a long, long, time.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 13, 2017 - 1:28pm
Jenifer,
I agree with you that governments are not afraid of drugs.  They just want control of drugs, as does Pharma. They all know how profitable drugs are, especially when there are controls, like patents or illegality, on them.
Katharine Otto Added Sep 13, 2017 - 1:32pm
Tubularsock,
The legal issues have little to do with addiction, unless you want to believe addiction is a symptom of power struggles with authority.  I happen to believe that's a large factor with many addicts.
 
There are many people who use drugs and alcohol who are not addicted.  We could also say we are an addictive society, part of our anal-retentive, controlling attitude.  
Tubularsock Added Sep 13, 2017 - 2:14pm
Katharine Otto, yes Tubularsock does believe that much addiction does have to do with perceived power struggles with authority but far greater than that is the conflict within people who awaken to the fact that everything this society tells one about what a “good” life is, is a lie.
 
The vast majority of people who use drugs and alcohol never get addicted but far many more have gotten addicted to Cinderella and the American Dream which has resulted in a far greater danger than any other drug Tubularsock can think of at this moment.
 
And a very BIG YES to “We could also say we are an addictive society, part of our anal-retentive, controlling attitude.” !!!
 
Thanks for you comment.
Jeff Michka Added Sep 13, 2017 - 4:54pm
Tubularsock notes: but far many more have gotten addicted to Cinderella and the American Dream which has resulted in a far greater danger than any other drug Tubularsock can think of at this moment.-Isn't it sooooo much better for them jonesing for a new car, house, or fur coat than just s fix, eh?  I wonder if they've a methadone program for shopaholics?  Costco? LOL
wsucram15 Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:30pm
Katharine..
It is a states rights issue. But I am telling you from personal experience that you need to pick up some papers and do some research on this. 
When you have a person in office that sees some reason, perhaps and I am all for it..but it will not happen with either Trump or Pence in office and Sessions as AG. Until Congress reverses that law Sessions can and will do whatever he likes.  Its not smart, but he can.
Also Congress is not jumping on the bandwagon though to overturn the CDS law from 1970 though (or even amend it), and at least three dispensary's have been raided, the largest in Colorado. 
So for now..its illegal and I dont see the DEA backing off anyone, if they step even one step over the line which they sometimes do, States and feds will shut them down.
Jenifer Frost Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:59pm
Welcome to the Fascist States of America, where even if you pass a law by the will of the people, it's still "illegal" because an illegal federal "law" that was never approved by the people says so. And some wonder why so many people thumb their noses at the fascist government and just ignore the meaningless "laws" and do as they please (which I fully understand and endorse). 
Katharine Otto Added Sep 13, 2017 - 8:33pm
wsucram15,
You have no idea what I know and what research I've done.  So far, neither Sessions, the DEA, Trump, nor Pence have started targeting the dispensaries in the states where rec pot is legal.  You may be right, but fact is, neither of us knows if they will dare try it or what repercussions it will bring.  
 
It could and should become a states' rights issue, or even an individual rights issue, but it won't happen unless people start wising up and speaking up.  You are only a slave if you allow it.
 
Drug laws are human rights violations, according to me. Just because they are laws doesn't make them right.
wsucram15 Added Sep 14, 2017 - 7:34am
You are absolutely right, although you have missed my point entirely.  I replied to your prior comment and deleted it, because I hope you never have to learn like I did and I know a great deal specifically about this issue and the issue in the article.  
I was just trying to save you money and/or property. But its not worth the argument.  In all probability you will never incur any issues, but then again you might.  Be aware as I said..Federal law supersedes State law...no matter how you feel about it.
Have a good day.
Tubularsock..I have no more knowledge than anyone else who has either been an addict or dealt with addiction firsthand. Well maybe some...but I try to help those people when they want help, like thousands of other people do.  My comment meant nothing more than that.
Also your article is about heroin and opiods not weed. Whole different ballgame.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 14, 2017 - 5:47pm
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a solid balance between the drug trade and armaments
 
That's the way. Honest people never get anywhere but to heaven LOL
Katharine Otto Added Sep 14, 2017 - 8:34pm
wsucram15,
 
Apologies.  I re-read your comment.  I must have missed what you said about three dispensaries having been raided.  Unfortunately, the federal government can do whatever it wants, as long as people let them get away with it.  
 
What will it take?  I'm not the only person who thinks federal bankruptcy is the only thing that will stop the barbarians in Washington and on Wall Street from getting us all killed.
 
wsucram15 Added Sep 15, 2017 - 3:18pm
Its ok..its a touchy subject and the current administration is not helping.  It makes me sad for people already suffering and the ones who will suffer more.
 
You know..I have a huge story about the system and weed. I  tried to write about it on here but it was sooo long I just deleted it.  For now, I heard that the House just passed a bill to hold Sessions back on his increased Asset Forfeiture...which believe me is of importance in his fight against ALL drugs.  If the Senate passes it, it will delay him for I think 6 months, maybe a year.  Not sure.
 
I never used to pay this any mind...ever.  Such a stupid topic, in the privacy of your own home. Until you have a 9mm pointed in your face and your house torn apart. I still dont know why.  Let me tell you public websites like this..FB, LI..Google..Microsoft, everyone online, is documenting this stuff. When its needed its pulled.  I dont even smoke weed, my son did..he doesnt anymore.  We still dont put our identification trash on the curb...there are some things you just learn.  
If I had to give you a monumental red pill moment - it was 2009.
 
Katharine Otto Added Sep 16, 2017 - 1:38am
wsucram15,
It's a surreal world we live in, especially with regard to the internet.  I only post what I want the world to know, and I'm happy for the world to know I think the governments--local, state, and federal--are way out of control.
 
The drug issue is the most salient, and I'm happy to know the House is trying to curb Sessions' asset forfeiture actions.  At least they are pretending to care. What happens to all the loot they confiscate, anyway?  I hear stories here and there, but more scrutiny would make a good investigative journalism series.
 
Maybe my knee-jerk reaction to your comment stemmed partly from my own fury over the whole drug law scam.  I've been researching it, too, from the "opioid crisis" angle, the hypocrisy within the pharmaceutical industry/FDA, the War on Drugs, and the history of drug laws generally, going back as far as the Opium Wars and the Whiskey Tax.  The government control issues abound, and it's "high" time its tactics were exposed.
Tubularsock Added Sep 16, 2017 - 3:07am
Oh my, Stone: “Honest people never get anywhere but to heaven” don’t count on THAT dude!

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