BDS real face - lest we forget.

Nothing new in this, but bears refreshing from time to time. Omar Barghouti, in his past a student at Tel Aviv University and founding member of the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel (PACBI):

A Jewish state in Palestine in any shape or form cannot but contravene the basic rights of the indigenous Palestinian population and perpetuate a system of racial discrimination that ought to be opposed categorically….Definitely, most definitely we oppose a Jewish state in any part of Palestine. No Palestinian, rational Palestinian, not a sell-out Palestinian, will ever accept a Jewish state in Palestine.

For doubters, check the text at 5:50 in this link.




Autumn Cote Added Sep 12, 2017 - 6:27am
Please note, the second best way to draw more attention to your work is to comment on the work of others. I know this to be true because if you do, I'll do everything in my power to draw more attention to your articles.
PS - There is a lot I can do and would like to do on your behalf.
Simply Jews Added Sep 12, 2017 - 6:35am
Thanks, I shall try to do my best as far as time limits allow.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Sep 12, 2017 - 3:09pm
The main problem is that liberals see Arabs as noble savages. It blocks any reasoning on how to improve the situation for the people. Many of them don't even know that Gaza and Samaria are controlled by different groups who kill each other. BDS is just the usual virtue signalling crap.
FOUSESQUAWK Added Sep 12, 2017 - 3:45pm
I have seen Barghouti speak twice. He is an impostor. Posing as a Palestinian, he was born in Qatar, which he hides. I also heard him say that even if the Israelis and Palestinians made a peace deal, BDS would not recognize it unless it met all of their conditions.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Sep 12, 2017 - 3:48pm
FOUSESQUAWK: Not surprising. It is mostly the Arabs from outside who make a fuss.
Simply Jews Added Sep 12, 2017 - 4:20pm
Here is Mr Barhouti speaking for himself:
"Specifically, BDS calls for an end to Israel’s occupation of Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967; an end to what even the U.S. State Department slams as Israel’s “institutional, legal and societal discrimination” against its Palestinian citizens; and the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes and lands from which they were forcibly displaced."
I don't have to draw a picture here, do I? His wants are clear, his movements dreams are clear.
"From the river to the sea..."
John G Added Sep 12, 2017 - 7:17pm
So they stand for a single state.
The 'two state solution' has been a farce for years.
'Israel' never even respected the (crappy for Palestinians) Oslo Accords.
Seems to me that it is you wanting a 'jewish' state that are the racists and ethno-supremacists.
You just don't want any Palestinians left in the land that you stole and are ethnically cleansing to this day.
Leroy Added Sep 12, 2017 - 11:19pm
The Israelis have shown remarkable restraint.  I think that I would have done a Josey Wells by now:
Josey: You be Ten Bears?
Ten Bears: I am Ten Bears.
Josey: (spits tobacco) I'm Josey Wales.
Ten Bears: I have heard. You're the Gray Rider. You would not make peace with the Blue Coats. You may go in peace.
Josey: I reckon not. Got nowhere to go.
Ten Bears: Then you will die.
Josey: I came here to die with you. Or live with you. Dying ain't so hard for men like you and me, it's living that's hard; when all you ever cared about has been butchered or raped. Governments don't live together, people live together. With governments you don't always get a fair word or a fair fight. Well I've come here to give you either one, or get either one from you. I came here like this so you'll know my word of death is true. And that my word of life is then true. The bear lives here, the wolf, the antelope, the Comanche. And so will we. Now, we'll only hunt what we need to live on, same as the Comanche does. And every spring when the grass turns green and the Comanche moves north, he can rest here in peace, butcher some of our cattle and jerk beef for the journey. The sign of the Comanche, that will be on our lodge. That's my word of life.
Ten Bears: And your word of death?
Josey: It's here in my pistols, there in your rifles. I'm here for either one.
Ten Bears: These things you say we will have, we already have.
Josey: That's true. I ain't promising you nothing extra. I'm just giving you life and you're giving me life. And I'm saying that men can live together without butchering one another.
Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double-tongues. There is iron in your word of death for all Comanche to see. And so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron, it must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life... or death. It shall be life. (he takes his knife and cuts his hand. Josey does the same and they grasp each others hand.) So shall it be.
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 1:22am
The Israelis have shown remarkable restraint. 
They don't even pretend restraint. Their whole out in the open strategy is to be a wild dog.
What is wrong with you that you invent inanities to back your chosen team?
Do you have no humanity?
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:04am
"So they stand for a single state."
Yeah, sure, from the river to the sea. 
Coming from a BDS shill, it is a smashing statement.
Whatever humanity you pretend to have, John G, is slipping quite quickly.
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:35am
Suddenly we are being confronted with organizations who claim to know what is or is not appropriate for the rest of us to hear. Now that sides have been established — one which can decide what it is and isn’t acceptable speech, and another which is forbidden to speak on pain of attack, all that remains is for the powerful to make sure their narrative is the one that’s allowed. Isn’t this fascism? Aren’t people who claim to be anti-fascist actually doing what classic fascists do?
It’s not a coincidence that just prior to these speaking events being shut down, Google, Inc. asserted its right to decide what is and is not a legitimate news source. At the same time the US Congress is considering legislation that would make it illegal for US citizens to support boycott, divestment, or sanctions against Israel. Not surprisingly, the pro-Israel Anti Defamation League (ADL) has been brought on by Google to advise them on which news sources are legitimate and which are not. Google now has such a monopoly on information on the Internet that it is in a position to bury unapproved news sources forever. The ADL will therefore be able to effectively censor any negative news about what Israel is doing in Palestine and the middle east, just as AIPAC, through its ownership of the US Congress, will be able to censor free speech of American citizens when it comes to, once again, Israel.
In the ‘50s the ADL monitored “pinkos” for the House UnAmerican Activities Committee. In the ‘90s ADL monitored activists working to end apartheid in South Africa, in the 2000s the ADL began monitoring Arab American organizations and mosques. Today the ADL monitors pro-Palestine groups on college campuses. In each case the ADL has gone after “extremism and hate speech” in the US, as defined by Israel.
One wonders, why does Israel, a foreign country, have such a say on in what people in the US can and can’t talk about?
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:39am
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 3:48am
I stand for a single state. Don't talk to me about humanity you racist filth.
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 4:45am
You might stand wherever you wish, dear. You can even dirtmouth people you disagree with with impunity, it is all in freedom of speech. That your speech has a strong smell of crap and sulfur is another problem, for your psychiatrist to resolve. 
And keep shouting about being muzzled. The best proof of you being muzzled is shouting about it from every available platform. 
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:13am
I'm not being muzzled.
The Palestinians are. And you are dirt mouthing them.
That's what this piece is.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:16am
Thank you for your contributions to this Web site. They fill a much-needed gap.
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:19am
The Palestinians are muzzled? 
Interesting. Here I post a quote, with a link to a video by a (OK, fake) Palestinian, and you call it muzzling?
And where is the purported dirtmouthing by me? Please quote.
You really have to watch your texts, John. Disjointed as heck.
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:23am
A fake Palestinian? Because he was born Qatar?
You're an utterly repellent racist scumbag.
Yes the Palestinians are muzzled. 
The purpose of your post is to muzzle Palestinians.
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:30am
Thank you, skid-mark-g, for your contributions to this Web site. They fill a much-needed gap.
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 5:31am
Yep, just like Arafat the Egyptian.
Skipping the next line of Tourette's outpour.
Yes, Palestinians are muzzled, like with 14 parliament members speechifying for them daily, thousands of newspapers publishing crapola, Muslim countries block in UN etc... tell me more about muzzling I don't know.
"The purpose of your post is to muzzle Palestinians." - something more ridiculous in your repertoire, John?
John G Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:14am
Deleting posts. Cowardly zionists.
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:27am
Who and where is deleting your post, poor muzzled John?
S.R. Morris Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:19am
How Is this an article? You wrote one sentence and then provided a quote and a link.  Simply pathetic, these types of articles should be banned.
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:36am
Er... who claims it to be an article, begging your pardon?
Besides, I don't remember length of the post being stipulated by the owner of that site (which you are not, if I am not mistaken).
Autumn Cote Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:27am
I just noticed your commenting activity and wanted to thank you by promoting this article to my email distribution list.  The action usually results in a lot more comment activity.   However, I chose not to, simply because it’s too short.  In the future, I recommend simply writing a little more.   
Simply Jews Added Sep 13, 2017 - 10:04am
Thanks, Autumn, I have in mind to post a longer one from the archives when time allows, this was to refresh some folks' memory.
Arrbyy Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:21am
The commenter who said that Israel has showed remarkable constraint is saying something entirely obscene. To that person: Did it give you a thrill?
Saint George Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:22pm
You're an utterly repellent racist scumbag.
And skidmark-john-g claims in another thread that he doesn't resort to obscenities and insults!
What a hypocrite!
Flying Junior Added Sep 14, 2017 - 1:55am
This thread just reminds me of how the Israeli developers have been building homes and communities in the lands and areas that have been agreed upon to be set aside for the Palestinians for four decades.  They have done this with impunity, without so much as word of protest from the U.S. government whilst using the inhuman tactic of bulldozing Palestinian communities to make way for their expansion.  Also, the few remaining pieces of land upon which Palestinians are still able to live their lives, they are separated by walls.  They cannot even travel for work, commerce or consumption.  They are under siege in their own land.  Essential living in enforced ghettoes.
What was it the Israeli government restrained itself from doing, Leroy?  Completely annihilating the Palestinian people in a systematic program of ethnic cleansing and genocide?
And anyone who would care to answer, who was it who killed Yitzhak Rabin?
Simply Jews Added Sep 14, 2017 - 4:03am
If this thread "reminds  you", it is definitely not my fault, FJ - probably everything, even related to weather, will remind you the same.
If you expect me to protect the settlers' activity - nope.
If you expect me to agree with BS like "using the inhuman tactic of bulldozing Palestinian communities to make way for their expansion.  " - nope to this too.
And to this: "Also, the few remaining pieces of land upon which Palestinians are still able to live their lives, they are separated by walls. " 
No to mention this happily repeated blood libel, easily dispelled by simple demographic data: "systematic program of ethnic cleansing and genocide". 
What was that re Yitzhak Rabin again? And how it is related? Please enlighten us all.
FOUSESQUAWK Added Sep 14, 2017 - 12:26pm
John G has no talking points other than to insult others. Actually, "Racist scumbag" is the most complicated and in-depth comment he has made. And this guy was a university professor??!! Can you imagine what his lectures must have been like?
Simply Jews Added Sep 14, 2017 - 12:54pm
Exactly what  I have been wondering about:
- Professor, are you sure about...
- Yes, you worthless piece of flotsam, I am sure!
Benjamin Goldstein Added Sep 14, 2017 - 1:48pm
FOUSESQUAWK: John G was a university professor? I can easily tell that it wasn't economics or something maths related. It's not important. Good on him.
He has a valid point. The opponents of BDS are sometimes denying them rooms and Israel's embassy gets involved when it really shouldn't. BDS shouldn't be denied a platform.
BDS is, of course, not the vox populi of the Palestinian people and I don't think much of them. Palestinians have different opinions like everybody else. About half of them wants a seperate state, the other half wants to remain a part of Israel. I think for most, the question is really more about HOW it will look like in the end. How trade or health care will be organized. There is talk about some kind of federal system. I think few Pals in the West bank wants to live under the conditions that Hamas provides for the people in Gaza, but there are some hard-core ideologues who do.
I wrote that Arabs from outside make most of the noise. There are also great expat Palestinians like Ahmad Mansour or Lalo Dagach who clarify the situation.
Oh, and Google and ADL are tosh by now.
Flying Junior Added Sep 14, 2017 - 1:52pm
I stand by the comment.  This Israeli demolition on the West Bank and in Jerusalem has been  happening for years.  We have all seen it on the television and in newspapers.  It goes hand-in-hand with the illegal developments.  I guess I exaggerated about the wall.  But it does exist and it is 440 miles long isolating or cutting off many Palestinians.
Simply Jews Added Sep 14, 2017 - 2:01pm
"This Israeli demolition on the West Bank and in Jerusalem has been  happening for years." 
Be interesting to know what you have in mind, FJ. 
The wall (which is mostly a fence, by the way) indeed cut off some agricultural fields belonging to a few villages. 
The point is that the Wall saved uncounted lives, whatever problems it causes. We, being soft-skinned and self-centered folk, are rather allergic to attempts to kill us.
Saint George Added Sep 14, 2017 - 11:55pm
Actually, "Racist scumbag" is the most complicated and in-depth comment he has made.
Well, it has the most syllables, let's put it that way.
Never heard he was a university professor. In any case, note well that there are two "JGs"; one who is inarticulate, and another – a more recent poster – who has a slightly larger vocabulary. Same inability to reason and unwillingness to look at history objectively as the previous JG; but a somewhat larger vocabulary.
Saint George Added Sep 14, 2017 - 11:55pm
Israeli developers have been building homes and communities in the lands and areas that have been agreed upon to be set aside for the Palestinians for four decades.
Flying Junior Added Sep 15, 2017 - 2:43am
This has been known since before the www.  Back in the days of print.  Reports have been found in every major newspaper since the mid 1980s.  It has been reported by CBS, NBC, PBS and other respected networks for more than thirty years.  For crying out loud, there are UN resolutions.  Yada, yada, yada.  You deny this?  If you want evidence, googol it yourself.  Are you telling me that you are under thirty years of age?  Thirty-five?
Maybe you trust wikipedia.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 2:49am
A pro-Israel pressure group is orchestrating a secret, long-term campaign to infiltrate the popular online encyclopedia Wikipedia to rewrite Palestinian history, pass off crude propaganda as fact, and take over Wikipedia administrative structures to ensure these changes go either undetected or unchallenged.
A series of emails by members and associates of the pro-Israel group CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), provided to The Electronic Intifada (EI), indicate the group is engaged in what one activist termed a "war" on Wikipedia.
A 13 March action alert signed by Gilead Ini, a "Senior Research Analyst" at CAMERA, calls for "volunteers who can work as 'editors' to ensure" that Israel-related articles on Wikipedia are "free of bias and error, and include necessary facts and context." However, subsequent communications indicate that the group not only wanted to keep the effort secret from the media, the public, and Wikipedia administrators, but that the material they intended to introduce included discredited claims that could smear Palestinians and Muslims and conceal Israel's true history.
With over two million articles in English on every topic imaginable, Wikipedia has become a primary reference source for Internet users around the world and a model for collaboratively produced projects. Openness and good faith are among Wikipedia's core principles. Any person in the world can write or edit articles, but Wikipedia has strict guidelines and procedures for accountability intended to ensure quality control and prevent vandalism, plagiarism or distortion. It is because of these safeguards that articles on key elements of the Palestine-Israel conflict have generally remained well-referenced, useful and objective. The CAMERA plan detailed in the e-mails obtained by EI appears intended to circumvent these controls.
In the past, CAMERA has gained notoriety for its tactic of accusing virtually anyone who does not toe a right-wing pro-Israel line of bias. The group has even accused editors and reporters of the Israeli daily Haaretz of being "extreme" and participating in "radical anti-Israel activity." Jeffrey Dvorkin, the former ombudsman of National Public Radio (NPR), frequently criticized by CAMERA for an alleged pro-Palestinian bias, wrote on the web publication Salon in February 2008 that "as a consequence of its campaign against NPR, CAMERA acted as the enabler for some seriously disturbed people," citing persistent telephone threats he received in the wake of CAMERA campaigns.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 2:50am
Israeli Settlements
on Palestinian Land
Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 
98 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.
Palestinians do not have any
settlements on Israeli land.

Number of Settlements Built on Others landIsraelisPalestinians075150225300





Source: According to target="_blank">Americans for Peace Now's "Facts on the Ground" Map Project, there are 163 official Israeli settlements and 98 informal outposts on Palestinian land, including 24 neighborhoods in East Jerusalem de facto annexed to Israel (a total of 261 settlements). APN's interactive settlement map shows the name, location, and population for each settlement and outpost on Palestinian territory, all of which are considered illegal under international law.

“Land Grab:
Israel’s Settlement Policy in the West Bank”
Published in May 2002.
target="_blank">B’Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, endeavors to document and educate the Israeli public and policymakers about human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, combat the phenomenon of denial prevalent among the Israeli public, and help create a human rights culture in Israel.
Historical Background
Since 1967, each Israeli government has invested significant resources in establishing and expanding settlements in the Occupied Territories. As a result of this policy, approximately 500,000 Israeli citizens now live on the settlements on the West Bank, including those established in East Jerusalem.
The [peace] process between Israel and the Palestinians did not impede settlement activities, which continued under the Labor government of Yitzhak Rabin (1992-1996) and all subsequent governments. These governments built thousands of new housing units, claiming that this was necessary to meet the "natural growth�? of the existing population. As a result, between 1993 and 2000 the number of settlers on the West Bank (excluding East Jerusalem) increased by almost 100 percent.
International Law
International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.
The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.
Taking Control of the Land
Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.
Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
The Policy of Annexation and Local Government
The Israeli administration has applied most aspects of Israeli law to the settlers and the settlements, thus effectively annexing them to the State of Israel…This annexation has resulted in a regime of legalized separation and discrimination. This regime is based on the existence of two separate legal systems in the same territory, with the rights of individuals being determined by their nationality.
The areas of jurisdiction of the Jewish local authorities, most of which extend far beyond the built-up area, are defined as "closed military zones�? in the military orders. Palestinians are forbidden to en
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 2:52am
ter these areas without authorization from the Israeli military commander. Israeli citizens, Jews from throughout the world and tourists are all permitted to enter these areas without the need for special permits.
Encouragement of Migration to Settlements
The Israeli governments have implemented a consistent and systematic policy intended to encourage Jewish citizens to migrate to the West Bank…settlers and other Israeli citizens working or investing in the settlements are entitled to significant financial benefits.
The Planning System
The planning system on the West Bank, implemented by the Civil Administration, is one of the most powerful mechanisms of the Israeli occupation. As with the other bureaucratic systems, the planning system operates on two distinct tracks: one for Jews and the other for Palestinians.
This system is responsible for transforming the map of the West Bank because it is the planning system that approves the outline plans for the settlements and issues building permits for the establishment and expansion of settlements and for the construction of by-pass roads. Israel changed the composition of the planning institutions on the West Bank and transferred numerous planning powers to the Jewish local authorities, while expropriating these powers from Palestinian planning institutions.
While facilitating Jewish settlement, the planning system works vigorously to restrict the development of Palestinian communities. The main tool used to this end is to reject requests for building permits filed by Palestinians. In most cases, the requests are rejected on the grounds that the regional outline plans – approved in the 1940s during the British Mandate – prohibit construction in the relevant area of land. These plans do not reflect the development needs of the Palestinian population, and the planning system deliberately refrains from preparing revised plans. Houses built by Palestinians without building permits are demolished by the Civil Administration, even in cases when the construction took place on private land.
Israel has created in the Occupied Territories a regime of separation based on discrimination, applying two separate systems of law in the same area and basing the rights of individuals on their nationality. This regime is the only one of its kind in the world, and is reminiscent of distasteful regimes from the past, such as the Apartheid regime in South Africa.
Under this regime, Israel has stolen hundreds of thousands of dunam of land from the Palestinians. Israel has used this land to establish dozens of settlements in the West Bank and to populate them with hundreds of thousands of Israeli citizens. Israel prohibits the Palestinians as a group from entering and using these lands, and uses the settlements to justify numerous violations of the Palestinians’ human rights, such as the right to housing, to earn a livelihood, and the right to freedom of movement. The drastic change that Israel has made in the map of the West Bank prevents any real possibility for the establishment of an independent, viable Palestinian state as part of the Palestinians’ right to self-determination.
The settlers, on the contrary, benefit from all the rights available to Israeli citizens living within the Green Line [Israel proper], and in some cases are even granted additional rights. The great effort that Israel has invested in the settlement enterprise – in financial, legal and bureaucratic terms – has turned the settlements into civilian enclaves in an area under military rule, with the settlers being given priority status. To perpetuate this situation, which is a priori illegal, Israel has continuously breached the rights of the Palestinians.
Particularly evident is Israel’s manipulative use of legal tools in order to give the settlement enterprise an impression of legality. In so doing, Israel trampled on numerous restrictions and prohibitions established in the international conventions to which it is party, and which were intended to limit infringement of human rights and to protect populations under occupation.
Flying Junior Added Sep 15, 2017 - 2:56am
I have said elsewhere, you can't really trust wikipedia on anything remotely controversial.  But the above was simply a statement of the most basic facts, so I included it.  Thank you for the source material.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 3:21am
Saint George Added Sep 15, 2017 - 3:25am
Reports have been found in every major newspaper since the mid 1980s.  It has been reported by CBS, NBC, PBS and other respected networks for more than thirty years.
Now, post EVIDENCE that the settlements were and are ILLEGAL. Links are fine if you have them. Just be certain that the source in the link doesn't simply make the same claim without offering evidence. 
Simply Jews Added Sep 15, 2017 - 3:29am
" If you want evidence, googol it yourself."
This is a poor answer, FJ. You started with a claim that the Palestinian houses are being bulldozed to give way to settlements, remember. Then you switched to building in areas that purportedly belong to Palestinians, which is a bit different. 
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:01am
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:05am
1.  How many exactly have been destroyed?
I don’t know. The first homes were destroyed in Jaffa in the very early days of the Nakba in December 1947 – well before the declaration of the State of Israel. The total number of Palestinian homes destroyed between 1947 and 2015 would seem to be reliably estimated at somewhere between 100,000 and 150,000. Anyone who has a better number please share it.
This estimate is based on what we do know::

Approximately 550 Palestinian villages were evacuated during the Nakba of 1947-48, and subsequently destroyed. Those villages varied in size, from small hamlets of a dozen houses to major urban areas like Jaffa, where the population was over 70,000 mostly Palestinians.
Dozens of small Bedouin villages were destroyed in the Negev from 1948 – the present
As many as 27,000 Palestinian homes have been destroyed in East Jerusalem since 1967
Dozens more small hamlets are being destroyed regularly in Area C
Over  25,000 Palestinian homes in Gaza have been destroyed in 3 successive attacks (Cast Lead 2008/9, Pillar of Cloud 2011, and Protective Edge 2014). Over 18,000 were destroyed in 2014 alone.
Thousands of homes in refugee camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, particularly during the 1982 Lebanon War.
Saint George Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:17am
Downloadable PDF at the following link:
Fabricating Israeli History: The "New Historians"
Efraim Karsh,
Professor of Mediterrenean Studies
University of London
A cogent analysis of the misrepresentations, lies by omission, lies by commission, and overall distortion of historical facts, by a school of Israeli historians known as the "New Historians", which includes Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe, Avi Shlaim, and others.
Simply Jews Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:24am
Your way of bringing up (dis)information  is kind of a comedy, John G. Mixing unrelated numbers, each one having different roots and reasons, partly relevant but mostly not, is not an art, it is rather a sign of poor debating technique. What do, for example, the (vastly exaggerated) numbers relevant to 47-48 have to do with Palestinian homes in Gaza destroyed as a result of a wat? 
Or Bedouin homes (which are not homes, in fact, but you wouldn't care about small print, would you?) destroyed as a result of being built on public land without permit, have to do with the rest of it?
Keep plugging, you show yourself more and more clearly.
Not to mention that all your comments are intended to lead away from the subject of the post in question. Bad technique, professor.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:29am

4. Smears and insults - if the top 3 fail then it's just character assassination.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:30am
Hasbara Troll attributes

Supreme point of view
The Hasbara troll knows best
Condescending & Patronising
Socialist (Smart and 'caring')
Do not have to be Jewish but Pro-Israel
Internet experts
Like to ask the questions, not answer questions
Control freaks
Inflamed by anyone being critical of Israel
'Moral' Guardians
Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier
Adept with social networks well trained on IT
Simply Jews Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:39am
John G, the BDS dirtmouth and conspiracy theorist complaining about "Smears and insults"? Boo hoo... where is my hanky? 
As for that other rubber stamp comment: is it a standard BDS issue or you have compiled it on your own?
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 4:51am
BDS is winning, troll.
Flying Junior Added Sep 15, 2017 - 12:53pm
This article is current.
United Nations Security Council resolution 2334, which the United States did not veto, and was passed in December 2016, angering Israel, reaffirms this position. It states that settlements have "no legal validity" and constitute "a flagrant violation under international law." The resolution references previous Security Council resolutions 242, 338, 446, 452, 465, 476, 478, 1397, 1515, and 1850. Of these, 465, 476, and 478 established that settlements have "no legal validity" in 1980.
The International Criminal Court (ICC) currently has a preliminary examination underway that is looking into Israeli actions, including settlements, in the occupied territories since Jun 13, 2014. The examination, which is meant to determine whether there is enough evidence to begin an official investigation, was launched on January 16, 2015.
Israel, along with a few legal analysts, disputes that settlements are illegal. There are three primary reasons they use. Some cite religious reasons, claiming religious scripture gives Jews a right to build anywhere in Israel and the West Bank. Others use historical reasons, saying Jews have lived in the region for thousands of years, and it remains their land.
I don't think the word evidence applies.  But the word shall definitely be used should this matter ever come to trial in the ICC.  Apparently it all stems from the Geneva Conventions on occupied territories.  An occupying force may not send in its own citizens to claim lands.  This is land that once belonged to Jordan?  Clearly the legal status is in dispute.  Lawyers on both sides have been working on shoring up their arguments.  The ICC opened up a preliminary examination as recently as 2014.  This may turn into an investigation.  The UN issued another proclamation in December declaring that the settlements were illegal which ambassador Samantha Power did not veto.
Simply Jews Added Sep 15, 2017 - 1:00pm
Yes, FJ, I know about all that is said in the article you refer to, although the legal issues are far from being all that clear. But I was trying to address that "Palestinian houses are being bulldozed to give way to settlements". All that I said that I don't recall settlements in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria, to be precise) being built on bulldozed villages. So let's focus a bit.
Simply Jews Added Sep 15, 2017 - 1:06pm
@John G:
"BDS is winning, troll."
Let's parse this statement.
1. "BDS is winning": So why are you so unhappy? Rejoice!
2. "troll" Definition: Someone who provokes or abuses others, esp. on the Internet. You are now on the thread related to my post, yakking incessantly on all kinds of matters unrelated to the said post, and I am a troll? 
You really should improve your logical thinking. You simply make no sense.
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 8:38pm
A Challenge to Act
After 50 years of occupation, Palestinians have taken it upon themselves to challenge the world community to act. They have had enough of seeing their homes demolished and lands confiscated to make way for Jewish-only roads and settlement colonies in their midst. They want an end to the daily humiliation of being a captive people denied basic freedoms and justice. Instead of submitting to the occupier, they have decided to boycott, and have urged those who support their human rights to join them in their call for an end to the occupation. Their action is as legitimate as was the call of African Americans in the Deep South in the ’50s, and that of Nelson Mandela in South Africa in the ’80s.
For the Senate to oppose or to punish those who support this Palestinian call to individuals, businesses and governments to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for its oppressive occupation would put the Senate in the position of saying that: they support Israeli practices; they don’t want Palestinians to use nonviolent means to protest their treatment; and/or they simply don’t believe that Palestinians are equal humans who deserve to have their rights protected.
And so the messages we should send to senators are clear. To those who support S.720: “Shame on you.” To those who oppose S.720: “Thank you for your opposition, but think again about whether the problem is BDS or the occupation that gave birth to it.” And to all senators: “Stop hiding behind your hollow profession of support for ‘two states.’ If you are serious about peace, justice and equality, stop enabling the occupation that makes the realization of those goals impossible.”
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 8:39pm
John G Added Sep 15, 2017 - 8:40pm
The Debate
It started when Daniel Blatman, an Israeli historian and head of the Institute for Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, penned an op-ed for the Israeli daily Haaretz stating that ethnic cleansing “is exactly what happened in 1948.” To support this, Blatman cited Benny Morris: the Israeli historian, Blatman wrote, “determined that most of the Arabs in the country, over 400,000, were encouraged to leave or expelled in the first stage of the war—even before the Arab nations’ armies invaded.”name="_ednref2">[2]
Simply Jews Added Sep 16, 2017 - 2:25am
"You are now on the thread related to my post, yakking incessantly on all kinds of matters unrelated to the said post, and I am a troll? "
No answer to that, I gather, just more trolling. Should I start to delete irrelevant comments, what do you say, John?
John G Added Sep 16, 2017 - 2:30am
Well you've deleted plenty of relevant ones. You keep complaining that posters respond to passages in your piece or to parts of the commentary.
It all seems very disingenuous. But then zionists are always disingenuous at best. 
Simply Jews Added Sep 16, 2017 - 2:52am
"Well you've deleted plenty of relevant ones. "
What? I have yet to delete your comments. Only considering it.
"You keep complaining that posters respond to passages in your piece or to parts of the commentary."
It gets more and more bizarre. Example, please.
Simply Jews Added Sep 16, 2017 - 2:52am
And again:
"You are now on the thread related to my post, yakking incessantly on all kinds of matters unrelated to the said post, and I am a troll? "
No answer to that, I gather, just more trolling. 
Simply Jews Added Sep 16, 2017 - 4:06am
Now it is not right anymore. Comments by John G will be expunged no matter what the subject.

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