Farewell DACA

While most of the media’s coverage is going to to Hurricane Harvey and Hurricane Irma, a war of ideology is brewing. The cause of this war, DACA and Trump.


President Trump made the controversial move to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival, also known as DACA. For those of you that don’t know what DACA is DACA provided illegal immigrants that entered country before 2012 a two year renewable permit that grants them immunity from deportation and grants the immigrant a work permit. It is estimated that 800,000 illegal immigrants benefited from this program. As an American latino, this issue effects friends and neighbors. As an American latino I support our president’s decision to end DACA.


I support the ending of DACA for many reasons. The main reason is that DACA is unfair to all immigrants that came legally. As I am latino, my community I am constantly surrounded by latinos that came illegally. I hear crazy stories of people running from the cartel or parents wanting to give a better life for their children. Out of all of neighbors that are latinos, only two came legally.


One of those is a good family friend whose name is Hector. Hector comes from Chile. He wanted to give his family a better life here in the states. He saved money and was able to receive a green card. He soon left his homeland and his family to a foreign land with a foreign language. As he settled down, he got a job bussing tables at Outback. With his bills and cost of living, he would never be able to bring his family up to the states. He decided to pick up a second job. While Hector’s story show the hard work it takes to immigrate to the U.S., I also know of others that were using the DACA program to stay here.


A family that I won’t name came here to the States illegally. They were a young family with a young girl. When the DACA program got implemented, they got the permit for their daughter.  That daughter were their “anchor” baby. It was hearing this story that I formed my own opinion of DACA.


Immigrating is a hard topic. It is also a very sensitive subject. Many of my own immigration views come from the fact that I am from an immigrant family. That is why when I see on the news the illegals marching and protesting about why they should not be deported it makes me mad. First, NO ONE is entitled to enter our country. We chose who receives that privilege. The DACA program shows that the United States is open to any immigrants. While we are a country of immigrants, We are a country that supports LEGAL immigration. So to DACA, I say farewell.


Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 13, 2017 - 2:03am
Interesting fact. Immigrants who come here later support the denial of entry to other immigrants.
S.R. Morris Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:33am
There is no such thing as an anchor baby. Deportation is always a matter between the illegal immigrant and the authorities, kids of illegals make no difference in the decision. And let's be clear/honest, there is no deportation program. Once here illegals are not forcibly removed whether they have kids or not.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 13, 2017 - 7:43am
Has Bahamas long rounded up and deported illegals?
Dino Manalis Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:46am
DACA was temporary, even Obama understood this, we need legislation that only deports serious criminals, while other illegal immigrants ought to pay a penalty and become legal residents.  It would be much better for our country and economy, while legalized residents would receive higher wages; pay all appropriate taxes; and receive benefits/services legally.
Bill Kamps Added Sep 13, 2017 - 10:02am
Immigration is a difficult topic.  Unfortunately the USA has a series of unenforceable laws, that make things worse every year.   Multiple generations are now here illegally, and young people who came here as young children would find it difficult to return to their country of origin, since they have no memory of ever living there.
DACA was a cynical way to get around Congress doing its job.  So it just made matters worse.  Executive orders are flimsy at best, since the next President can easily repeal them. 
Most other countries have understandable, enforceable laws.  They aren't perfect, but most have a system better than ours.  We refuse to fix our system, because someone will be harmed in the crossfire, that is unavoidable given the mess we have created.  Allowing it to go on year by year, only makes the mess worse, not the clean up easier.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Sep 13, 2017 - 6:22pm
To me immigration is a simple issue. There is a legal process for immigration, follow it. My ancestors did. Why won't others? Can't learn the language? Seriously? I speak eight languages and am learning a ninth, Japanese. Yes it's hard, but anything worth achieving is hard. Unless someone can prove they are mentally challenged there shouldn't be an issue. Yes it can be expensive. Most things of value are. But the poor have successfully came to America and succeeded for over two hundred years. Again, I don't see the problem. 
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:30pm
Ending DACA was the first time in decades the law of the Land was followed. The Constitution gives only Congress the responsibility do determine immigration law. The President is allowed to make temporary immigration decisions. Trump said to Congress that Obama's temporary decision need to end and a permanent solution is in Congress's hands.
If following the law is controversial move then we have a lawless society. DACA is more then unfair to all legal immigrants. It has invited immigrants to ignore the law. We have chaos if the citizens of the nation ignore the law. The murder in the Black Ghettos of our major cities is such a situation with many laws ignored.
The illegals want to give their children a better life but to teach them by example that the laws can be ignored if it is to your advantage.   The immigration law requires that a sponsor will agree to support the needs of the immigrant, and they shall not receive government assistance. Welfare, emergency health care, medicaid, public education, college grants, etc. are all 'government assistance.'
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Sep 13, 2017 - 9:55pm
Being the usual bucket of fascism hate that he is Sutrina wants to deny legal immigrants a public education and even emergency medical care. I nominate Sutrina for Fascist of the Week. 
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:06pm
Jenifer F., When may father came to this country in 1920 that was the law.   That Jenifer is what the Congress of the United States and the President said was the rules.  I was not even a twinkle in my parents eyes because may dad was 10 and my mother in diapers.  Ellis Island separated out the immigrants that could not fend for themselves and sent them back to Europe.    Those law are basically in tact.  The fact that we are not enforcing them instead of changing them is on the head of government.  It is not a monkey on Your back Jenifer or mine.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Sep 13, 2017 - 11:18pm
Beyond outrageous! Well thankfully much better people than Sutrina were running the immigration process when my father's family immigrated from Egypt in the early 1980's. Otherwise we would probably be living in a damn gettho now if my father had been denied a public education. Instead of running drugs on the streets like fascists like Sutrina would have liked, he went on to college and became a valuable contributing member of society. Thusly I and my siblings had a good foundation to grow from instead of being treated like dogs the way certain fascists would have liked. Sutrina is a very good example of mindless hate mongering fascist poison that has infected the country. Punish the people who follow the law the same as the criminals. Disgusting. 
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 14, 2017 - 5:10am
@Thomas. " Ellis Island separated out the immigrants that could not fend for themselves and sent them back to Europe.    Those law are basically in tact.  The fact that we are not enforcing them instead of changing them is on the head of government.  It is not a monkey on Your back Jenifer or mine."
A Monkey? Is that a code word in your usage? Yep! Hitler had a field day roasting many of the people US rejected. He used ovens to simulate the purgatory of which the Christians speak. He must have read the bible as he read American literature and artifacts regarding the treatment of Blacks as a framework for treating the people he exterminated. 
Did he said he was bor... er schooled in America?
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 14, 2017 - 8:28am
DACA is a temporary action of a Pres. Obama.  Pres. Trump telling Congress I will not extend it indefinitely should not make anyone angry.  
The judges that have told local school districts and other local services that so long as a child or a person is here in America and in your jurisdiction you shall provide services.  The judge's ruling does not prevent ICE from deporting them, but since ICE is not enforcing the LAW in a timely period then you shall treat them as anyone else in your jurisdiction for any government service.  Put your foot on our soil and police etc. will treat you like anyone else.  The Federal government will apply laws governing non citizens.  
The Federal government, and specifically the executive branch has chosen not to enforce the law, and Congress has not used the power of the purse or impeachment to force compliance.  Thus Congress is equally at fault.   What Trump has done is to act on a promise.  We elected Trump that said he will enforce immigration law and build a wall.  
Trump said your responsible for immigration Congress then YOU figure out how to solve this mess of having millions of people ipso facto living as citizens of the nation.  The people demand we enforce the law again and I am doing that.  I want to know what to do with ipso facto citizen and let us start with the children, DACA?
I do not know the answer any better they you, and it is worth a discussion and contacting your congressmen.
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 14, 2017 - 8:38am
The related problem is 'sanctuary governments' that since ICE did not enforce the law in a timely manor and the courts say we must treat them like any other citizen then these ipso facto citizens will be welcomed.   ICE is saying now under the Trump administration  we will after decades of not enforcing the law shall start.  We demand you comply with federal laws which include telling us when you have a ipso facto citizen arrested.    Does the fact that they did not enforce a law nulify a law?   And who decides?  The courts it appears.
Bill Kamps Added Sep 14, 2017 - 9:12am
We currently have a ridiculous situation where illegal residents are given access to schools, health care, they can buy property, and even get a mortgage on a house.  I know multiple people who came on a tourist visa, stayed, and now have jobs.  They said it was easy.  What other advanced country has such lax immigration law, that is hardly enforced?
The problem now, is that when the law is enforced, it is enforced unevenly and subjectively.  This of course is unfair.  We also have people who claim that if we start to enforce the laws that Congress passes, that we are being unfair to those who have lived here productively, if illegally for  a long time.
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 14, 2017 - 11:36am
Bill K. you agree with me, a mess.  My father came here at 10 through the legal process so when he went in front of a judge to become an Citizen he already completed HS.  A small talk conversation for a few minutes before he granted citizenship, that small talk measured his English proficiency.   I suggest that once Congress creates an immigration law, that the judges that will be presiding over citizenship discuss with Congress and come up with standard or rules or regulation.  Then every DACA, 'anchor baby', or other alien that has come into the country shall have to go in front of a judge applying these rules.  Like immigrants or American Indians before Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, that have become citizens in the past the judge is looking of people and determine if they meet by actions and knowledge.  “The evident meaning of these last words ( in the 14th Amendment “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States) is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”  This situation is the same for American Indians.  Ref: "Indian Affairs: Laws and Treaties", Compiled and edited by Charles Kappler, Vol. IV Laws (1927), Washington:
Government Printing Office, available at http://digital.library.okstate.edu/kappler/vol4/html_files/v4p1165.html
Obviously criminals do not meet this criteria.  The judge should only have latitude to deal with significant law breaking such as the parents that came illegally and the more common ones part of the rule setting.
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 14, 2017 - 11:41am
I do not believe in blanket solutions because those solution will have loop holes to allow people we do not want in the country.  As I said, "It has invited immigrants to ignore the law. We have chaos if the citizens of the nation ignore the law."
Tamara Wilhite Added Sep 14, 2017 - 12:50pm
Thank you for your view. It is often legal immigrants and their communities hurt most by illegal immigration, because it pulls down wages via competition for those least able to afford it.
Bill Kamps Added Sep 14, 2017 - 5:20pm
We are passed the point where we can simply decide to enforce the laws as written.  This would cause chaos, and most of the people in the US dont really want people who have lived here productively, and crime free, to be deported simply because they got here illegally.  Those here illegally are about 5% of the population, and deporting or jailing them is untenable.
We need a plan for what to do with the people here illegally, who have broken no laws while here.
Then we need to simply make it impossible for those without documentation to get work.  It is not difficult, other countries do it.   We currently require that employers collect information that proves an employee is here legally but no one checks it.   It would be easy to check with computer software.   Then...
1. Make sure employees have valid Social Security Numbers, not fake ones.  It isnt that difficult with software, we just dont bother to check.
2. Stop allowing employers to deduct as expenses cash payments to employees.  This will force employees to have real SSNs.  Start auditing construction companies, and farm companies that report very little labor expenses compared to revenue, it is not that difficult to check.
These two things would dry up about 90% of the jobs for illegals.  There are only two ways they can currently get work, fake SSNs, or they are paid in cash.  Its not difficult to stop this, we just dont make an effort.
To get welfare, or other government services, require a valid SSN, or documentation proving you have a right to be here.   
None of this is difficult.  If people cant get a job, or cant get government services, they will leave.  Just like we would if we illegally wanted to stay in Europe.  It is not about stopping people from entering the country, it is about not giving them an incentive to stay longer than they are allowed.
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 14, 2017 - 6:27pm
DACA does it have bounds?  What happens to people that entered this country in 2017?  When will the immigration laws be enforced and parents and their children be deported.    When will Congress stop the anchor method of immigration.  This is a relatively new approach that started after 1960.  The family of these anchors for some reason were not important for the nation.  Immigrants were allowed into America when it served America's interest.  The interest of the immigrants is not considered.   Ellis island would send back a member of a family immigrating if only that individual did not meet the requirements.
Trump promised during the Campaign to get the illegal immigrants out including DACA children because they are here illegally.  That was the promise he made every month of his campaign.  He would enforce immigration laws and build a wall.  Every month of the campaign this promise was repeated.  
When will he enforce the present immigration laws, all of them?
When will he demand that Congress create an immigration bill that ends anchor babies and clearly make restate the 14th amendment.  Parents that do not have a permanent permission to stay in America have not promised: “The evident meaning of these last words ( in the 14th Amendment “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States) is, not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”  Thus their baby can not be a citizen at birth just as American Indians were not citizens.  Congress in 1924 made them citizens when 3/4 of the Indians already became citizens through the immigration process for them.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 14, 2017 - 9:23pm
Trump just shit in our hand and called it an Oreo by caving in to the libturds on DACA. There is a loose group of wealthy, powerful individuals who look after their own interests. Republican pres, Congress and court but the libturds still running things. 
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 15, 2017 - 1:03pm
Trump dropped the shit in the Republicans hand. They are aware they cannot exclude Latinos and win majority seats in American politics. Thus, we will get the DACA passed.