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This is my next to last article on Writer Beat. Here is my personal take on the controversy surrounding the NFL Players protesting in response to Donald Trump's speech last Friday in Mississippi. The players are in the right because Trump had insulted them and their protest was a response. This is a man who has basically waited 13 days to respond to the tragedy that has befallen Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria had hit it. As of this writing,  people are suffering miserably while Trump plays politics with a personal issue that is a part of this democracy. 

Trump is hypocritical because he didn't call the Alt-right and their ilk SOBs in Charlottesville, Virginia who had carried Tiki Torches and whose followers had brutally beaten a anti-racist protester Deandre Harris and hateful rhetoric was responsible for the death of Heather Heyer. He had no hesitation went to Texas and Florida following Hurricane Irene and Irma and is going next week to Puerto Rico 13 days after what happened. 

Trump and his followers fail to learn from history and should read the Constitution. Trump has insulted people in the Military such as Senator John McCain who is a veteran. Trump hasn't served in combat at all and it is public knowledge. I am not a fan of Mr. McCain's politics, I respect the man for serving unlike Trump. For those who will respond, you will say that President Obama didn't serve. The reason is that Obama was a child during Vietnam and that is a legitimate excuse. End of story. 

People who are criticizing the NFL Players and Colin Kaepernick for taking a knee during the National Anthem are in the right and doing a very patriotic thing. Soldiers of all the wars America has fought from the Revolutionary War to Afghanistan have fought and died for that so that you and I, not just the veterans can say what is on our mind without criticism from the Government. Donald Trump fails to understand that a real leader accepts criticism and needs it to be a better leader plus respect isn't entitled to them, it has to be earned. 

Donald J. Trump had all the opportunities to prove that he is a leader and he's failed miserably. Event after event since his presidency this year has proven that all he cares about is the status of being President, not the responsibility. Donald Trump is on his way to become a failed President because he prefers dealing with fantasy than reality plus insulting people from different backgrounds and with issues such as North Korea. Trading insults with Kim Jung will not make our nation safe. The only person to blame is not the critics and protesters; The real blame goes to Donald Trump. 

Mr. Trump needs to look in the mirror and realize that. Its too little, too late. 

 

Comments

Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 29, 2017 - 10:35pm
Gregory we are always on different pages. The NFL player are big boys that are paid a lot to be professionals. Protesting the Donald Trump speech by turning the fans against their action. That move I expect from someone that cleans the stands after the game. Colin Kaepernick was not a new issue for the fans but still active issue for the activist. They are responsible and both Trump and NFL players took the bait.
 
FEMA and Huston/Texas and FEMA and the West Coast of Florida as we saw on TV was a great response. FEMA comes in to work with the local people. They create the hurricane plan not FEMA.  Gregory what happen to the mayor of New Orleans during Katrina struck? The people rejected him and I think he was charged with a crime. The city was not ready for the Hurricane Katrina. Puerto Rico was maybe ready for a glancing blow of a hurricane, but it was not ready for a  level 5, 100% of the island strike by Hurricane Maria.
 
Gregory, the electric power company has been bankrupt a year ago so the power plans are working fine but the whole grid in bad repair was destroyed by 160 mph winds.  No cell phone towers so the island can not communicate to organize.  The government will need to investigate why money supplied for infrastructure that was not fixed.  That is what happened I think in New Orleans.
 
FEMA has developed a plan for a failure of the local community, but it's job is to puts in place the supplies for the working local organization plan.  The failure of the local community caused FEMA to go to its backup plan. Not a great plan maybe because it is an island. Puerto Rico is often in the path of many hurricane so I am sure FEMA was not expecting a total collapse of the local organization. You can only create a plan for what you expect. A major problem is that the local community had not reorganized in the rural areas and do not have people ready to help FEMA reach all the people. Their are tons of water and supplies on the docks that could be distributed which is the local organization responsibility. They know the roads and alternates.
 
The Charlottesville news clips video and reports of reporters have shown that Trumps response was correct. The local government pulled back the police and let armed opposing groups fight. 

The John McCain issue is a year old and never mentioned by McCain because he is a big boy politician.   This is within the realm of what politicians do.
EXPAT Added Sep 29, 2017 - 11:02pm
Are we really going to argue over the best response ever to multiple disasters?
John G Added Sep 29, 2017 - 11:15pm
Soldiers of all the wars America has fought from the Revolutionary War to Afghanistan have fought and died for that so that you and I, not just the veterans can say what is on our mind without criticism from the Government.
Pfffft. They were fodder for corporate plunder and profits.
Autumn Cote Added Sep 30, 2017 - 2:06am
Please note, it's against the rules to post articles to this site unless you comment on the work of others.  
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 30, 2017 - 10:35am
All this fixation on Donald Trump.  If Donald Trump is a threat to the advancement of our Democratic Ideals he will be out in a flash. It will not be a military solution but an outpouring of protest in this country that will make this nation ungovernable.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 30, 2017 - 4:25pm
It isn't a fixation on Donald Trump, we Americans have to begin to acknowledge that enemies also come from within and it is our responsibility to stop them period. It happened in the 1950's with Joe McCarthy and we Americans have to start learning from history or we will keep making the same mistakes again and again.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 30, 2017 - 4:35pm
Thomas Surina, you are 100 percent wrong. Trump did give praise to those racists and demeaned the anti-racist protestors. Your response proves that you are condoning racist actions. Deandre Harris was protesting in a peaceful manner and was still beaten up by a group of racist thugs. Two of the participants have been arrested and charged with assault. That was a hate crime!
Here is Mr. Harris and what he had to say in his own words:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/
http://www.theroot.com/interview-20-year-old-deandre-harris-speaks-out-about-1797796038.
The majority of the NFL players are African American. Not all of them use their celebrity and status in a destructive manner. Michael Bennett didn't deserve to be beaten like a dog. No one does! The Players are responding because first and foremost they are Black and still treated by the color of their skin! If you cannot understand that, something is wrong with you!
Here is Sportscaster Dale Hansen who recently responded to last Sunday's protest and it is worth listening to including an interview with Teacher Jane Elliot.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/donald-trump-nfl-protests-anthem-kneeling-dale-hansen-wfaa-speech-video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGoOVpA-pQM
Dino Manalis Added Sep 30, 2017 - 4:41pm
Trump should do a better job as president, he's improving, but not as quickly as most of us would like.  Trump is politically inexperienced and doesn't behave diplomatically.  He's trying hard, but people and businesses have high expectations and there are lots of problems, both domestic and foreign.  I don't think he handled Puerto Rico any differently than the natural disasters in Texas or Florida, but I agree, he needs to help people urgently!
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Sep 30, 2017 - 4:41pm
Yawn, Trump is a puppet, and you know it. Period.
Leroy Added Sep 30, 2017 - 4:48pm
Gregory, your worst nightmare is if Trump succeeds.  I congratulate you on doing your best to see that he doesn't.
Jeff Michka Added Sep 30, 2017 - 5:06pm
GSM sez: Deandre Harris was protesting in a peaceful manner and was still beaten up by a group of racist thugs. Two of the participants have been arrested and charged with assault. That was a hate crime!-Don't throw violent rightists behaving violently at ol Thomas the Sutrino, a decayed subatomic particle.  He'll get confused and wander off. They'll have to send people out to look for him.  Trump sees PR's debt as the problem, not the hurricane damage.  So, nothing is Trump's fault in a disaster response, remembering Puerto Ricans are brown, not (horrors!!) WHITE.  Those non-whites don't have to drink water or eat.  So, then, because of debt and skin color it's all their fault.  Any problems are due to debt and skin color, not anything Trump.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 30, 2017 - 10:46pm
Leroy, Trump did this to himself. When you are someone who has a history of being a bully, sexist, and racist, it always catches up to you. 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 30, 2017 - 10:51pm
Jeff, you have fallen to Trump's trap. He is divisive and likes to deflect than take responsibility as usual.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 30, 2017 - 10:52pm
Dino, facts don't lie. Trump is incompetent and a horrible leader.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 30, 2017 - 11:15pm
Trump got onions. I admire him for it. What right and unpopular stand have you made?
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 1, 2017 - 4:29am
Dr Green, Trump is a man who is toxic. You are a Black man and Trump doesn't like you and wouldn't hesitate using the N word to demean you. It is written all over his face. The Mani's a racist. 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 1, 2017 - 4:34am
Jeff, are you listening to yourself? Are you saying that the protesters shouldn't have protested? That statement is an insult to people like Dr. King and the Civil Rights Movement. The protestors in Virginia and NFL Players are patriots and real patriots aren't afraid to tell the truth.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 1, 2017 - 4:37am
Expat, Puerto Rico is our responsibility! They are a Commonwealth and they need our help! Enough said.
George N Romey Added Oct 1, 2017 - 10:20am
SEF you are right Trump is a puppet of the Deep State. They've surrounded him with Deep State swamp creatures. His tax plan is nothing more than a huge gift to the Deep State. 
wsucram15 Added Oct 1, 2017 - 10:24am
Gregory..you are right Puerto Rico is a US territory and should have been handled expeditiously.  It is unfortunate that the response was very slow and unorganized but has happened before in our history and not just to minorities, my friends from Katrina are white and the entire 15 person family was relocated and lost everything.  I think two of them got some money but there was an issue with the land..not sure of details.  They are finally back there. 
 
I wish there was something I could do besides donate money but specific skills and money are needed in Puerto Rico, things I dont have.   I have a friend that works at a group going down there. 
 
The upset with government is understandable, but there is quite a bit of assistance there.
Also the containers you see on the news are not government containers, those are retail containers and I can understand at this point why they are being moved slowly.    Those are owned by businesses, some may not have the facilities to hold stock.
I am not in support of Trump on this, at all, but he was never qualified to handle this type of thing.  I dont think he handled Texas well either.  Congress did but only for the short term.  Florida is highly insured so they will fare the best.
 
Gregory..I know this is horrific, but like Bush..this is going to cost Trump. No matter what his base says or how they move forward now.  He let this go and then insulted the mayor of San Juan while people were sending private jets and cruise lines.  If only Trump knew people with private jets and helicopters to rescue people?
LOL
 
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 1, 2017 - 10:58am
George, I said, "The NFL player are big boys that are paid a lot to be professionals."  They fell for a cheap jab by Trump and it took one week and a lot of angry fans to wake up and remember who in the end puts money in their pockets.  
 
Michael Bennett an NFL player in Los Vegas didn't stop running away from police when ordered to STOP.  They were responding to a MAN WITH A GUN 911 call.  Yes they had there guns drawn.  George you tell me why he did not stop?  Yes they made sure he did not have a gun, and then they held him until they looked for a discarded gun.
 
Would they have done the same thing for a white man or a women.  The answer we both know is YES.    My father who fit the description of a criminal was treated as the criminal by police and checked out about a half dozen times.  They finally after about three visits to the station gave him a letter so he could at least not go down to the station again.  
 
Black men are stopped more often then white.  The reason is quite obvious Blacks represent about 13%  but commit 37% of murders, rape, robbery,  and assaults.  That is three times there portion of the populations so George expect to be treated suspiciously about three times more then a white person.   Who is responsible?  Look at your black brothers because they are the perpetrators. 
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/apr/02/sally-kohn/sally-kohn-white-men-69-percent-arrested-violent/
 
I am not even counting the  legal murder by abortion, I am using the old testament (your christian church foundation) that it is a human when it moves in the belly.  That too is three times the rate of whites.  http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race/
 
The NFL players if they really want to protest need to protest the loss of the black society that Dr. Martin Luther King had at his disposal.  Church going, two parent, responsible fathers, providers, etc..
Dave Volek Added Oct 1, 2017 - 11:39am
Thomas
All your above points need further discussion. As much as police shouldn't use racial profiling, they need to weigh each situation based on experience.
 
And we shouldn't forget that there are thousands of white officer/black citizen interactions happening each day, and nothing bad happens.
 
And I like a comment on your previous post that suggested Puerto Rico's infrastructure really wasn't prepared for this kind of emergency. Sometimes we do have to plan 20 years down the road. And maybe the former English colonies are just a bit better than the former Spanish colonies. 
wsucram15 Added Oct 1, 2017 - 11:44am
Thomas..you are right about one thing, 13% of the population is black but yet 38% is in jail.  So there are an abnormal percentage of black Americans in jail proportionate to their population.  The same applies to those in poverty. They also serve longer sentences, I wonder why that is.
Do you know the answer to that?
The NFL and players are protesting police brutality.  As far as I am concerned you can remove the National Anthem from sporting events altogether and end this argument. 
Someone told me they began the practice of the Anthem in 1942, I dont know if that is true or not.  The players are also citizens and entitled to protections under US law.
Micahel Dolan Added Oct 1, 2017 - 12:10pm
The horror of football in America these days is the simple fact that football players are men using steroids-uppers and they have become violent gang banging thugs.
 
Brain damage-broken legs-knees-amnesia-suicide by some players.
Kappernik gave thousands of dollars to his pal Fidel Castro-murdering thug. 
Football games are like-The Crips vs. The Bloods------
Jeff Michka Added Oct 1, 2017 - 2:43pm
GSM sez: Jeff, you have fallen to Trump's trap. AND Are you saying that the protesters shouldn't have protested?-Where and from what did you get these tidbits, G?-Duhlan the mindless Trump supporter sez: Kappernik gave thousands of dollars to his pal Fidel Castro-murdering thug- You, Mr. & Mrs. Ace Cub Reporter can't give a cite that will support your falsehoods, Duhlan.  Bet you'll stay glued to your TV set watching "the Big Game," but deny it here.  Same old Trumpist crap, Duhlan...you know, lies and partial truths.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 1, 2017 - 6:50pm
WSUCRAM15,  I have written about it many time.  And it is very simple but hard to accept.  The price for free stuff was the loss of morals and virtue.  The free stuff wasn't free it came at a cost.  It always comes at a cost.  
 
FDR wanted to get re-elected and his numbers were dropping.  His recovery was the blue print for Obama's recovery, a malaise.   So he aimed the help blocks of voters.  
 
The 1920 CLAN BAKE in New York City chose the candidate for president.  KKK, Jim Crow was fully developed and they ran the Democratic party.  FDR took advantage of a crisis.  Blacks were the first to loose a job so the depression was worse for them.  His hand out was give for votes and a promise that the Democratic party would continue the hand outs.  The black vote changed from GOP to Dems.   Dr. Walter Williams is a black professor Economist.  I have quoted this often because it gets to the problem efficiently.
 
“[T]he welfare state has done to black Americans what slavery could not have done, the harshest Jim Crow laws and racism could not have done, namely break up the black family,” Williams said. “That is, today, just slightly over 30 percent of black kids live in two parent families. Historically, from 1870s on up to about 1940s, and depending on the city, 75 to 90 percent of black kids lived in two parent families. Illegitimacy rate is 70 percent among blacks where that is unprecedented in our history.” 
 
The racism allowed FDR to say it is best to have neighborhood of a single race so the Black Ghettos we have today are built on a 30 year foundation.  Believe me that the failure Williams points out were visible for decades and nothing was done to change the system that did work for the people but did work for getting Democrat votes.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 1, 2017 - 7:01pm
Believe me that the failure Williams points out were visible for decades and nothing was done to change the system that didn't work for the people but did work for getting Democrat votes.  The Civil Rights laws of the 1960's started the change that should have stated in 1870's.    And it has been successful to a point.  People have discarded the beliefs of eugenics. 
 
Now people are judged by their character.   But the destruction that William point out has resulted in the degradation of the community and the morals and virtue of the members.  They have a high portion in the community willing to commit crime against anyone.  They are mad at the situation they find themselves and their is not the social structure to deal with it. 
 
That is where the should be putting their knee down for.  Fill those churches  Return to a high level of two parent families.  End minimum wage and treat low wage jobs as a stepping stone to responsibility.  This is how a community gains moral and virtue base.
John G Added Oct 2, 2017 - 12:35am
That is where the should be putting their knee down for.  Fill those churches  Return to a high level of two parent families.  End minimum wage and treat low wage job as a stepping stone to responsibility. 
Oh yeah, praying, lower wages and less jobs will fix it.
FFS.
Beyond stupid.
George N Romey Added Oct 2, 2017 - 8:49am
Our economy is in free fall because of a the birth of low wage industries and jobs.
wsucram15 Added Oct 2, 2017 - 3:15pm
Thomas..
you didnt answer my question and provided more issues.  The welfare state broke up the black family?  ok.  It wasnt war, incarceration, death, perhaps not all black people are on welfare also. 
My best assistant ever was a black woman named Debbie, she was on her own raising a son who visited his Dad often. I met him a couple of times.
First of all, she worked her ass off and made outstanding money.  She was literally the organization (thread) for the entire law office under constant filing deadlines.  I never saw someone so efficient. 
I tried to hire her once I moved to another company and my new company would not pay her enough to move.  Mistake on their part.
 
On the illegitimacy..not all unmarried couples means the children dont have both parents in their lives.  There is NO data for that.  I just looked it up.  The data provided is for unwed couples having children.
 
My son is not black and his father was rarely there. His Grandfather was, but not his father.  He is a good father today because he had a good Grandfather and other men (like my brother and family friends) to help him.  At least he wasnt raised by an asshole drug addict.
 
 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 10:19am
Jeff, did you watch the news footage of how Trump has acted toward the people of Puerto Rico when he visited the island and his comments? IT WAS PATHETIC!!  A total lack of empathy! People are suffering and dying there! Trump's actions are speaking for him!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 10:22am
John G, put yourself in someone else's shoes. If your skin isn't White, you are going to deal with Racism in this nation period.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 1:57pm
Thomas Sutrina,
Single parent families are also in White communities too!!! That statement that you have posted is ignorant and racist!! There are more people who are White that are on Welfare than African Americans! The failure that you have mentioned isn't only the Democratic Party, also the Republican Party! 
And to John G: The Minimum Wage should be increased!! People cannot live on poverty level wages. Are you a Christian John G? Then act like it and demand that people's live situation improves! The NFL Players are putting their knees down because this country is hypocritical when it comes to Race and what Black and Brown people is ongoing!! So what that it makes you feel uncomfortable? 
There is no time to express your opinion when this country right now has misplaced priorities. Trump has insulted the people of Puerto Rico for what has happened to them that wasn't their fault and he cares about a flag that is inanimate? I respect the flag, I will not worship it. 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 2:09pm
Jeff Michka, the Players protesting isn't about you!! Francis Scott Key, the writer of the Star Spangled Banner was a slave owner and racist!! Have you heard the 3rd Stanza of the national anthem? Here it is:
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave"
Francis Scott Key's "The Star-Spangled Banner,"
 
Jeff Michka Added Oct 4, 2017 - 2:57pm
GSM sez: Jeff, did you watch the news footage of how Trump has acted toward the people of Puerto Rico when he visited the island and his comments?-Yup.  PR is a whole island full of brown people, so what do you expect from the Orange Scum?-AND: Jeff Michka, the Players protesting isn't about you!!-WHO SAID IT WAS ABOUT ME OTHER THAN YOU, GSM?  Read what people write, not what you think they're writing.  You say this is your second to last article on WB.  Since you don't read anything, I can see why.  You've attempted to put words in my mouth twice, now GSM.  Are you a racist?  Must be.  You wrote something.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 4, 2017 - 4:09pm
First of all the "Star Spangle Banner" became the national anthem in 1931, pres. Hoover.  Before that we didn't have a declared song.   The  music was borrowed from the 18th century British song "To Anacreon in Heaven."  A drinking society song.  Now could you picture drunk men trying to hit those high notes.  That must have made for some great competition.   And recall that was in the middle of prohibition.   
 
Another connection to slavery is that the words were written on a British ship.  He was on the ship to negotiate the release of an American doctor.  Learned too much by accident so was held till after the battle.   Now Gregory the british about 150 years earlier started to bring slave to the colonies. 
 
The other choices were Dixi and Hail Colombia that the military played.  I believe a tune used for the royal family of Britain.  So Gregory all the choices are attached to slavery. 
 
To finish up Gregory the slaver were brought to the ships by other black men.  So maybe we should determine the lineage to see which ones had relatives that worked in the slave trade?  Are you the prodigy of slavers?
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 4, 2017 - 4:23pm
Gregory the article is from a black man talking about the effect on black American society.  He was not talking about the effect on white American society.  You are trying to throw up a red herring.  Trying to change the subject when you can not deny what Walter Williams is saying.
 
I did say, "Williams points out were visible for decades and nothing was done to change the system that didn't work for the people but did work for getting Democrat votes.  The Civil Rights laws of the 1960's started the change that should have stated in 1870's. "  Now we both know that the Democrats were mostly in charge from FDR on but the republicans did go along and even chose to join in because welfare got votes, and they wanted to be elected as much as Democrats.
 
Fact Gregory is that the blacks during the FDR administration switch from voting for Republicans to Democrats.  I attached it to welfare.  Just read the second bill of rights that FDR presented during the final state of the union speech of his in 1944.  It says it is a right to have what welfare supplies.  And the Democrats have introduced legislation that have turned into law every one of the rights.  It is much harder to take away once given so the GOP has not removed any of FDR's rights.   The rights sound similar to those defined by the USSR.   
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:37pm
Thomas,
That is a fact!! Stop talking about FDR because you are deflecting and making excuses!!! What do you have against people who have and are on Welfare? There are those who use it for the original intent to get back on their feet again. You hate those who are poor Thomas and stop talking about FDR, we are discussing Donald Trump.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:38pm
Jeff, I am not putting words in your mouth. You have a lack of empathy for people who are suffering! You have no idea what another person goes through unless you experience it yourself.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:40pm
Jeff and Thomas, the 3rd Stanza is from The anthem. Jackie Robinson in his memoir said that he couldn't salute the National Anthem because of the racism he had experienced when he was in the Military. There are African Americans who feel the same as Mr. Robinson. Both of you are making excuses and denial is a form of Racism.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:41pm
Thomas, Yes there are Black people who have and still are selling their own people. The majority of slave ships brought to the Americas were White people! That is a fact!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:45pm
Michael Dolan, The NFL Players for a change are thinking about issues and causes that aren't about them. That should be commended. I would rather the players care than those who are abusing their status to participate in immoral behavior. Yes Football does have its flaws, at least the players care about the world around them.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:46pm
Michael Dolan, not all the NFL players are in Gangs. Most of them are God fearing, law abiding citizens! That is a generalization that is racist.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:49pm
Dino Manalis,
The news footage doesn't lie!! Trump just basically went there to insult The people of Puerto Rico and blamed what happened to them on them. They are American Citizens and we should help them!!! They are our brothers and sisters. It doesn't matter if they skin color is different from you!!!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 4, 2017 - 8:50pm
Stone Eater,
Your comments are the reason why people support Trump. You only say something when it happens to you.
opher goodwin Added Oct 5, 2017 - 11:24am
Trump is the worst President in history - he'd make a poor second-hand car salesman. He is crass, rude and coarse.
The players have every right to make a stand against racism. It's a peaceful protest to make a point. It's a moral duty.
Leroy Added Oct 5, 2017 - 12:32pm
As players, they have a duty to play ball.  As players, they have no right to protest if their contact doesn't permit it.  Wishing it so doesn't make it so.
opher goodwin Added Oct 5, 2017 - 12:48pm
Leroy - players are people. They don't sell their souls to the owners. As people they have a right to protest.
Tommie Smith and John Carlos were two of my heroes. At great personal loss they made their protest against racism at the Olympics. More power to them.
It is sad that racism is still so prevalent that people have to protest. But it is surely the moral duty of people to stand up for what is right.
Black lives matter as much as white lives. The point is best made in peaceful protest rather than violence.
Leroy Added Oct 5, 2017 - 3:26pm
Nothing makes a BLM'er madder than to say all lives matter.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 5, 2017 - 5:49pm
GSM sez: Both of you are making excuses and denial is a form of Racism. -Huh?  Where do you come up with that.  You didn't answer the first time, but resent your stupid and foolish accusation that's totally groundless.  Sure you can't make this your LAST article, GSM?
Jeff Michka Added Oct 5, 2017 - 5:51pm
Denying the wisdom of shooting people w/o cause is a racist denial?  You aren't just uninformed, you're stupid.  Have someone teach you to read.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 5, 2017 - 6:07pm
Leroy,
Here are 2 articles; One is  from The Sojourners, a Christian organization and the Founder is Christian and a White Male and the other is from a recent article from The Chicago Tribune. Your response shows how ignorant you really are about the issue. That goes for you too Jeff Michka.
https://sojo.net/articles/what-would-taking-knee-racial-justice-look-outside-professional-sports
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/chi-racism-america-michael-brown-trayvon-martin-20140908-story.html
https://sojo.net/articles/when-did-christians-become-comfortable-loss-truth
 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 5, 2017 - 6:10pm
Also Leroy, Resistance and taking a stand for the truth is a moral right thing!
https://sojo.net/articles/resistance-patriotic-and-christian
Leroy Added Oct 5, 2017 - 6:21pm
"Your response shows how ignorant you really are about the issue."
 
That's Liberal 101.  Attack others for precisely the things for which you are guilty.  You're a quick learner Gregory.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 5, 2017 - 7:02pm
No Leroy. You have proven yourself ignorant and I am presenting the facts to you. The information I am giving you is true. You Leroy are deflecting.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 5, 2017 - 7:03pm
Leroy, I am speaking as a human being who cares about the world. You have proven to be just selfish and a lack of empathy.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 5, 2017 - 7:05pm
opher Goodwin,
Thank you for mentioning John Carlos and the late Tommie Smith. These 2 men are heroes. I agree with you.
John G Added Oct 5, 2017 - 7:26pm
Trump is the worst President in history
He may be the most clownish. He may even be the most incompetent but that remains to be seen.
But in terms of long term damage to society and the world he'll never outdo Clinton and Obama.
Clinton's DLC 'centrism' killed off any pretence that the Democratoic Party represented ant labour interests or pursued any progressive economic policy.
And Obama killed off the peace movement and stuck the knife into the Democratic base while entrenching the White House assassination programme and the institution of torture and arbitrary incarceration in the gulag.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 5, 2017 - 8:28pm
GSM sez: Your response shows how ignorant you really are about the issue. That goes for you too Jeff Michka. I can't and won't speak for Leroy, but you are mouthing crap like an ignorant turd.  How am I "IGNORANT" ABOUT THE ISSUE, DUFUS? You are, at very best, a vague twit when it comes to "analysing" what others support, think or know.  Speak up, twit.  What have i said that's ignorant?  You'll be hard pressed to find anything.  Got news, buddy, your "misreading" will push most of the fence-sitting WBers into the camp that applauds police shootings, hoping one "error" may be a cop plugging you.
opher goodwin Added Oct 6, 2017 - 3:57am
Gregory - you are welcome. Those two men were courageous to make the stand they did. I value peaceful protest.
opher goodwin Added Oct 6, 2017 - 4:01am
Leroy - Nothing makes a BLM'er madder than to say all lives matter. 
I don't understand what you are getting at Leroy. You'll need to explain.
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Oct 6, 2017 - 4:09am
I don't understand what you are getting at Leroy. You'll need to explain
 
Whether DOHpher is naturally obtuse or he worked at it his whole life either way it worked out fine' cause he's obtuse tonight. 
 
Leroy Added Oct 6, 2017 - 8:40am
Perhaps I should spell it out to him, Captain.  Saying that all lives matter takes away from the message that black lives matter more.  Past "white privilege" means that black lives now must take priority. White people are evil and their lives are not on the same level of black lives.  White people are scum and are the root cause of the problems in the black community.  Black lives are a priority, and if you don't agree, they will kill you.
Leroy Added Oct 6, 2017 - 10:21am
"Leroy, I am speaking as a human being who cares about the world."
 
Yes, Gregory.  Only you care about the world.  The rest of us want to destroy it.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 6, 2017 - 1:27pm
Jeff and Leroy, I am not ignorant of the facts. Both of you are selfish and deflecting because the both of you don't want to face the facts.
Leroy Added Oct 6, 2017 - 5:37pm
Gregory, would you be so kind as to enumerate the facts.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 6, 2017 - 7:17pm
Leroy,
I don't need to; I have stated the facts already. The problem is that you weren't listening!!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 6, 2017 - 7:19pm
opher Goodwin,
Here is Dr. John Carlos' official website:
www.johncarlos68.com. 
I have checked out the website and its excellent. Enjoy.
Leroy Added Oct 6, 2017 - 7:53pm
"I don't need to; I have stated the facts already. The problem is that you weren't listening!!"
 
Just what I thought--nothing!  There are not facts.  You just demand support for the sole reason that you are black.  I understand.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 7, 2017 - 2:56pm
Yes Leroy,
What I have said are the facts and nothing but the facts! You don't want to hear them because you know in your heart that I am right!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 7, 2017 - 3:08pm
Leroy,
The reason for BLM is that historically in our nation, the lives of African Americans have been valued less! It's in our nation's history!! I suggest you read a history book and watch historic documents. 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 7, 2017 - 3:10pm
I am also including Leroy what happened to Native Americans, how Asians have been treated since coming to this nation and during WW2 and how people from the Middle East, especially Muslims are being treated today! 
Leroy Added Oct 7, 2017 - 4:47pm
You can add Irish to the list, part of my ancestry.  Someone posted recently that Asians earn more than their white, similarly educated white counterparts.  We can play the victim or blame others or we can move on with our lives.  There are many successful blacks, including our previous president.  There are no more excuses.  Anything now is wholly within the black community.  Don't blame me for your lack of success.  Take a look in the mirror to find the answer.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 7, 2017 - 7:54pm
GSM rants: Both of you are selfish and deflecting because the both of you don't want to face the facts.-Which "facts" am I not facing?  You seem accusatory, but can't say what you're getting at.  So far, you've tried to suggest I don't "accept" the protests...well, since you won't say, it's hard to determine "right" from "just wrong." AND: Asians have been treated since coming to this nation and during WW2-You mean how FDR had Japanese-Americans, rounded up and tossed into concentration camps until March 1946?  You mean that imprisonment that was as lacking in justice as the wholesale revolving door imprisoning of people of color to boost the profits of private prisons?  Or wasn't internment racist enough to be of "concern?"
Jeffry Gilbert Added Oct 7, 2017 - 8:14pm
I suggest you read a history book and watch historic documents. 
 
"Watch historic documents"
 
Watch them do what exactly? Sit on the desk? Dance a jig? Take a walk in the park?
 
What don't you have the ability to communicate? That's a rhetorical question.
 
Off you go now, mind the gap between train and platform. Bye.
 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 8, 2017 - 2:03pm
Jeffry, Leroy, and Jeff,
You guys know what I am saying is true. I am not going to waste any time arguing with you. You know that I am right. 
Jeff Michka Added Oct 8, 2017 - 2:30pm
GSM rants: You guys know what I am saying is true. I am not going to waste any time arguing with you. You know that I am right.  Whadda complete fool.  I never said you were wrong, dim wit.  You "decided" I was wrong and regardless of facts or comment, or just want it so.  Not sure why, but you seem to want people to disagree with you.  Will this make your "next article" your last?  Cheap justification, dude. 
Jeff Michka Added Oct 8, 2017 - 2:33pm
hint: You may actually want to answer questions posed to you, if you can.  So far, nothing, and now justifying it with "I am not going to waste any time arguing with you."  But then, GSM,  you are also into cheap justifications and intellectual fraud.
Leroy Added Oct 9, 2017 - 6:24am
"You guys know what I am saying is true. I am not going to waste any time arguing with you. You know that I am right."
 
If you can't even articulate it, how could anyone know what you are saying is true?  We just have to take your word for it, right?
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 9, 2017 - 8:59am
Gregory you asked why am I bringing up FDR the subject is Donald Trump.  You start in the first paragraph with, "Here is my personal take on the controversy surrounding the NFL Players protesting in response to Donald Trump's speech last Friday in Mississippi."  The next paragraph, "Trump is hypocritical because he didn't call the Alt-right and their ilk SOBs in Charlottesville, Virginia."  Third paragraph, "Trump and his followers fail to learn from history and should read the Constitution." 
 
I do not disagree about Trump angering the NFL payers and half the nations.  That seems to be his tactic from the start to fight against the opposition led by the Democrat Party that continuous to attack him like the Charlottesville march.  It is an overall attack on the Constitution.  So is the NFL protest.  What is missing Gregory is them going in front of the public as individuals and give examples to explain the protest.  The NFL players have lost because the fans at attaching the protest to patriotism rejection and the rejection of the honor due lives of solders lost.   
 
FDR and welfare and housing policies is me saying the opposite of what you are tag as my attitude.  It is saying they do have reasons that reach back not to slavery but to  the failure of the nation to enforce the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments.  Those black ghettos are very strong reasons to be angry.  But they did not happen by accident.  That Gregory is where FDR comes in.  He was president during the period where Jim Crow and KKK was very active  and the KKK was rooted in the Democratic party.   He got the Black vote for appearing to finally honor those amendments and saying that the Democratic party will do that moving forward.
 
You want to be angry NFL players then be angry at the Ghettos that FDR started to build with that promise.  I pointed Gregory that those Ghettos are build on how the government spent money on housing, segregated forming policies.  I pointed out Gregory that for example Aid to Dependent Children gave more money to single parent house holds.  The end result was fatherless children and boys, lots of them.   The NFL players are themselves or know many fatherless raise boys.  That Gregory is a reason to be angry.   The gangs of black boys that are killing each other and anybody around them is a dam good reason to be angry.  But those are the boys that did not have a father figure to mentor them to be responsible.
FDR is wrapped up in anger.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 9, 2017 - 2:17pm
Thomas, the decaying subatomic particle, a Sutrino sez: FDR is wrapped up in anger. FDR is dead, along with most of the New Deal.  However, if FDR had BEEN a wheelchair, he'd still be with us...
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 10, 2017 - 3:21pm
Thomas,
Why are we addressing FDR? We are discussing Trump. Trump is no leader, he loves the status and power and doesn't want the responsibility that comes with the job. Trump is a bully and what he did last week in Puerto Rico was shameful and a disgrace! Yes FDR had his flaws and was a racist, he did move our nation forward and out of the Great Depression. His wife did more for African Americans than him. 
Jeff, I am not a fraud! I have the facts, you don't want to listen because you know what I am saying is the truth!
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 10, 2017 - 3:24pm
And Thomas, not all NFL Players come from broken homes and the product of single parents. That is a generalization that is rooted in racism. Some of the players are the children of law abiding, God fearing families! 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Oct 10, 2017 - 3:25pm
Jeffry,
I don't have a communication problem. The problem is people like yourself who are ignorant. 
Jeff Michka Added Oct 10, 2017 - 6:06pm
GSR claims: Jeff, I am not a fraud! I have the facts, you don't want to listen because you know what I am saying is the truth!-Hey, GSM, you still don't get it, do you?  I agree with you. idiot.  YOU keep insisting I think differently, will not reference it, or answer any questions...Really?AND I don't have a communication problem.-oh?  like you can't understand some asking questions or agreeing with you? hmmm.  Take it easy on Capt. Shakes, GSM, he has to put the keys back on his keyboard after a sentence or two.  LOL
Jeff Michka Added Oct 12, 2017 - 4:52pm
Jeffry Gilbert observes: "Watch historic documents"-Watch them do what exactly? Sit on the desk? Dance a jig? Take a walk in the park?-They're most entertaining when they dance and shake their staples.  Some docs to watch dance, a few drinks, and there's an evening you won't long forget.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 12, 2017 - 9:22pm
GSM sez to Duhlan the Mindless Trump supporter: Michael Dolan,That is a generalization that is racist. -What do you expect from a racist like Duhlan?

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