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OK. Autumn, our admin, writes from time to time an article called "The Beat goes on", numbers might get to MCC or whatever once - hopefully :-)


I've been here for 3.5 years now, I'm not the first who joined, and not the last who will leave. And I'm probably the only lasting foreigner (means non-American) who has stayed so long.


I mean, I'm your special "ranter" about US policy, I've been insulted numerous times as a nigger lover, a European snob who looks down on Americans, a Russian troll, you name it. So what ?


I just say what I think from what I see. I'm getting 60, and I have a certain knowledge about what happens and why. At least I THINK I have it by analyzing world events and history. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not. None of us knows the "truth". But some think they do. Like the ones who write articles about stuff and then complain when others don't follow their POV.


And then they get pissed off because some guy says bullshit, man, shut up about about that shit. But he might have a twinking eye on it or a between-liner....or a comment before missed.


Why is that ? Because these guys are so convinced they're "right" that they can't allow themselves people questioning them. Self-protection. In psychological terms it would mean an inferiority complex which is compensated by a self-overrated ego.


We all have our views coming from specific backgrounds in different cultures, and we all are influenced by that and the media which tells us this-and-that. And some seem to have such a "special" knowledge, and take it so dead-seriously that they aren't even able to figure that an "insult" with a twinking eye just means: Hey, ok, but think about it and consider other views - and don't take life so seriously - it's not !


Humour, or humor.


Why have we lost it ? Because humor is not a small thing. A humorous person is, at least to my experience, an intelligent person. Because he can read and/or listen between the lines. Many have to re-learn that. Because if they can they won't feel insulted for no reason. And it will help them in real life. When someone can't laugh, he's dead.


I have addresses for people having problems enjoying life. Contact me under Jesus, phone 00-00A-00B0Z. You can get to the answer to your question by yourself by listening to the dial tone for an hour and thinking about why you have to address someone ELSE LOL



Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 10:48am
....and not everybody uses the same language to get their point across. Some say it bluntly, others almost write a book. Everybody has a right to be read, but everybody also needs to accept the consequences of how and what he writes about.
Ok, I've had it. Don't wanna bore anymore ;-)
Autumn Cote Added Oct 12, 2017 - 10:59am
Seeing that we're communicating in cyber space, how is one to know if your eye is twinkling?
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:02am
That's the one we use in Europe :-)
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:03am
BTW: That's why I use smileys all the time. In hope that people see what I mean in case my English is not sufficient.
Tubularsock Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:33am
Some people are always WRONG! And then there is Tubularsock.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:48am
LOL You got that :-) Thanks for joining in. You're a fresh breath with your articles :-)
Beware of your humor.....;-)
Jeffry Gilbert Added Oct 12, 2017 - 12:22pm
Goddamn it Stone!
Good one!
wsucram15 Added Oct 12, 2017 - 12:30pm
I agree with jeffry..a rarity but I do.  SEF, humor and Jesus.  Go figure..made me laugh.
I love life, no one will interfere with that, and they have tried really hard. Screw them if they cant take a joke, I will always end the drama.
Life is too short to not enjoy yourself, no matter how you see it.
wsucram15 Added Oct 12, 2017 - 12:32pm
P.S. SEF...you better not leave, you are the only original person on here besides me. 
George N Romey Added Oct 12, 2017 - 12:49pm
Some people like to hear themselves talk and the Internet allows them to do so. Often Id like to go back to a pre 1995 world.  People couldn't be as childish in their interactions. 
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 1:03pm
I'll ask him/her/it/... LOL
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 1:04pm
I'm not leaving. Something has to stink here, and if it's only a Swiss cheese ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 1:08pm
Often Id like to go back to a pre 1995 world.  People couldn't be as childish in their interactions. 
I don't. I live now, and I'm happy to know the world of the 60's as well as today. Makes me feel immortal LOL
People are as childish as you allow them to. And - being childish doesn't have to be a bad thing, actually. Children have a lot to them what we have lost. As I said: Keep your humor and some light-heartedness. If not, life becomes miserable. Life is only as serious as you make it ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 1:13pm
BTW Jeffry
Eat a nice lobster on the beach the next days but don't you dare to smoke on the beach LOL ;-)
wsucram15 Added Oct 12, 2017 - 2:13pm
(smiles) LOL.   Be childish..why not?
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2017 - 2:51pm
SEF - nice one. I find that my English humour is not always understood. But there you go. There's a time to be serious and a time for fun.
I like debating on here. Some of the guys on here are hilarious.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:06pm
Cultural differences which can only be settled in a bar or pub ;-)
Donna Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:07pm
Sef- I know when those eyes are twinkling..it took me awhile to get some of the humor, seems the ocean between us,do make for some difference in things.
I know you are still one of maybe 2-4 that have been here since i started. Most have left,nice to see you stick around, esp. knowing all you have going on in life.
George,at a time in my life i had wished to go back also,hate this computer era, and all the gadgets.Life was simpler, and times seemed to be rather tame compared to now. Then i thought but why go back, make now as special, and disconnect. We are in control of some things in life, walking away from the grid, so to speak and wandering through nature is great.Nice walk on a beach, relaxing as all hell. What we have lost is our innocence..The wonderful little thing all children have until, well for most it is when school starts..Remember those special times? Innocence lost, as Grams used to say..That is what we all need a little more of in our lives. IMO )0(
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:15pm
Thanks, a very thoughtful comment. I will never forget my grandma. She was sitting beside me listening to the Genesis LP "The Lamb lies down on Broadway" when I was 17, and she said "Nice music really!", and then my mother stormed in and said to her: "Mother, how can you support him listening to that noise !!"
Means: How to live TODAY and try to understand how people tick - when you yourself get older !
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:20pm
SEF - over a beer or two preferably.
Reading your reply to Donna - My Gran died when I was fourteen. She was fifty eight. One of my strongest memories of her (a big fat lady) is her watching a Little Richard TV special. She just loved it, turned the volume up and was rockin'.
Donna Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:24pm
Sef- Almost 52,and loving the fact i am..seems getting older comes with some BS, losing those i love, fact of life, nothing and no way to fight it, i do find i am a little more tolerant of certain things, while others drive me insane..
Grams were the best! 
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:25pm
Older people often look from a distace. I guess I'm on the way to it. I let the young freak out and tell them after they cooled off: Ok, but wait, there's this.......
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 3:57pm
+++ Off Topic +++
The US AND Israel are quitting UNESCO.
When has ANYBODY the courage to say that Israel is a hidden US state ?
Just a remark.
Go on with the subject ;-)
Dave Volek Added Oct 12, 2017 - 4:07pm
A couple years back, I read a first-year psychology textbook, which was my second foray into this discipline. One the tenants of human nature that got me thinking was [paraphrased]:
When a person reaches a certain opinion on something, he or she tends to look for information that supports that opinion. He or she tends to disregard information that is contrary to that opinion. 
In other words, we don't change our mind that easily--even when the evidence is staring us in the face. I can certainly see that with people in my real life and WB life. And I have to pinch myself to make sure I'm not too stuck on a particular issue.
St Francis said it best:
Seek first to understand, then be understood.
I'm guilty of getting this phrase backwards.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 4:17pm
Excellent comment, thanks. It's just.....difficult. When someone follows geopolitics for 20 years or more, tries to see connections and comes to a conclusion, he will stick to it until someone comes along and really haves arguments that can differ logically.
I try to see history in combination with human nature. And therefore I don't give a shit about headlines or arguments which are emotionally covering only recent events. Attention span, so to say ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 4:24pm
Sure. Without it, nothing works !
Stone-Eater Added Oct 12, 2017 - 5:05pm
Dave's comment
When a person reaches a certain opinion on something, he or she tends to look for information that supports that opinion. He or she tends to disregard information that is contrary to that opinion. 
...is actually true. But then I always ask.
a) do you know the history
b) do you know the present
c) can you draw conclusions about the future considering the former two points ?
d) who did or would profit from the former 3 points ?
To me, that's enough to know.
And that is about as neutral and objective I can be.....
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2017 - 6:48pm
SEF - are you saying age brings wisdom? Too right. Experience gives insight.
Youth is wasted on the young.
opher goodwin Added Oct 12, 2017 - 6:49pm
SEF - facts have been politicised.
wsucram15 Added Oct 12, 2017 - 9:18pm
Youth is wasted on the young..lol.  It would be cool to know what you do now, as a 20-30 year old.   Wow, I would make a killing. 
I dont even mean to know history, just my life...wow, the money I could have saved on property alone. Jeeze.
I had to laugh this weekend though..my kids still think they know more than I do, because everything now is "different".  They are both really intelligent and I usually just agree so they are happy. 
Katharine Otto Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:28pm
Humor is a great way to defuse anger.
The US is an Israeli state, not the other way around.
Katharine Otto Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:30pm
I was thinking about children today.  I believe they are not necessarily innocent but honest.  They have their honesty socialized out of them.
Katharine Otto Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:32pm
If a person already knows everything, he is incapable of learning anything new.  
Same with opinions.  Allowing opinions to evolve over time keeps people young at heart.
Katharine Otto Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:33pm
Hahahahahaha.  Anybody feel better?  Chuckle, chuckle.
I feel better already.
Lady Sekhmetnakt Added Oct 12, 2017 - 11:47pm
Good to have you sticking around Stone-Eater ;-) 
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2017 - 4:34am
Jeanne - that is what the dinosaur educationists are like. They bemoan the fact that kids today don't know the same level of knowledge as kids in the 50s and couldn't pass the old exams. What they don't realise is that today's kids have different skills and can do phenomenal things. A kid brought from the 50s into today would flounder horrible.
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2017 - 8:21am
No Opher..I give them credit for what they know...I had to pay thousands of dollars to learn what they did for free in high school.  So who can fault them...
Im talking about life...not skills.
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2017 - 8:26am
SEF..I finaly sat down and really listened to FF "concrete and gold".  It was a little harder than expected for the first 5 songs...but over produced..not their style.  But decent.
The song that stood out was #9...completely different from the remainder of the CD. I knew instantly why, as should you.  Without looking at the sleeve or looking it up, listen to it again and see if you can tell me why its so different.  Hint: the person on the song..gets little credit, but I assure you most of it was either contributed to or written with him.    Totally different sound from anything else on that CD.   As far as I am concerned, the most solid song writing wise on the CD.
Dino Manalis Added Oct 13, 2017 - 8:36am
WB is the place  to be!  Enjoy!
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2017 - 8:38am
Jeanne - kids are amazing.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 9:15am
I believe they are not necessarily innocent but honest.  They have their honesty socialized out of them.
Fully agree. When kids are very young, they don't see color or race. They just play with anyone. They can be brutal - but very clear.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 9:20am
Sunday Rain. Fantastic one !!
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 9:21am
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 9:24am
BTW: It reminds me of Zep's Stairway on some parts, especially the solo Dave plays......
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 9:26am
Lady / John
Thank you.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 10:01am
You might like that. This guy really has it LOL
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2017 - 10:21am
SEF/Katharine - that is a very valid observation. Two of my grandchildren were brought up in Holland in an international school with kids of all colours and nationalities. I swear they did not notice the colour of their friends.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 10:39am
My youngest which is half-African has never had any problems in Switzerland. But we have no media here which provokes hate......
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2017 - 1:35pm
You didnt answer me...who wrote that with them?   The solo could be referenced to Zep..but Im going to say more like a heavy distorted Harrison or Lennon.   Think about it.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 13, 2017 - 2:41pm
I give in...no idea !
wsucram15 Added Oct 13, 2017 - 6:31pm
Paul McCartney...he played drums on Sunday Rain and Im sure he had some input on the guitar OR at the very least they did some beatles influx.
The entire song was different from the rest of the CD...very well written.
Did you also notice that the CD is a tad on the dark side for Grohl?
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2017 - 6:36pm
SEF - that's good. I've seen a sea-change in Britain regarding race. In my school racism became almost non-existent. Unfortunately Brexit has empowered racists and brought it back out.
opher goodwin Added Oct 13, 2017 - 6:39pm
Jeanne - McCartney working with the Foos that should be interesting. I'll have to give it a listen.
I thought that Lennon quip was great - when someone asked him if he thought Ringo was the best drummer in the world - he said 'he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles'.
Stone-Eater Added Oct 14, 2017 - 3:12pm
Paul McCartney ??? Shit LOL
BTW: I never buy CD's, I have none. So I don't know about sleeves as well ;-)
Tikno Added Oct 15, 2017 - 5:17am
Don Added Oct 15, 2017 - 12:30pm
I have run a blog for years.  Commenters beat  on me all the time which toughened me up for WB.  It also allowed me to keep my sense of humor.  One of the best pieces of advice Autumn has on here is don't expect to change anybody.  One of the funniest comments I ever received was right after I started on WB.  The commenter said to me that I did not fool anybody about my faith.  I responded that I had been preaching for over 60 years so I must have been fooling a lot of people.  The commenter's response was "Well you may have fooled them, but you don't fool me."  That had to be the most hilarious response I have ever received and I have shared it over and over with others.