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As some of you know, I'm leaving for Senegal in 2018 for my last couple of decades (hopefully ;-) to work and retire the day when I'm only strong enough to play guitar but not to work hard anymore....

 

I have been there several times in the last 2 years for immigration preparation, and every time a friend here in Switzerland asked if he could come along for a couple of weeks saying "I like to go to Africa, but I've never been there, and you know the way around, do you mind me to come along ?"

 

Since these people are good friends, I of course didn't mind, after all they, like myself, don't have too much cash on hand, and 500$ for a two-week stay is enough (no hotel has to be paid).

 

Now, my friend and business partner Aliou was laughing when I informed him, and he said: "Hey, if you carry on like that bringing people down each time you come, we might one day have enough contacts and PUB to put up a guest house on your land on the beach !"

 

"Well, I thought we put our office and my apartment on the second floor of that house ;-)"

 

"Hm....might just extend the land and put up a second house. Business catches on."

 

"Sure. Two houses. Don't get excited LOL"

 

Anyway, I just wanted to inform you that there's really some interest here to discover at least a tiny part of Africa. Who knows when the first Americans will show up on tourism - I mean the ones that don't work for World Vision or another so-called NGO that has the primary purpose to feed itself ;-)

 

So - whenever you're interested - drop me a note. You know that you're welcome. And who knows if there might result some little business ? Possibilities are there.

Comments

Michael Cikraji Added Nov 8, 2017 - 3:17pm
Hey Stone,
I don't know why you put up with trolls like Nasty. I'd delete him and forget about it. So, I keep an eye out for eventual retirement places, and I never thought about Senegal. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 8, 2017 - 3:24pm
Michael
 
Thanks for the tip. I deleted the troll's insults as well as my emotional replies. Not that I do that regularly, but too much is too much.
 
You're welcome down there once I'm fully installed to check it out :-)
Jeff Michka Added Nov 8, 2017 - 4:31pm
SEFa sez to MC: You're welcome down there once I'm fully installed to cZecH it out :-)-now mc wants you to weigh in on his troll war.  I'm sure your deletions made him very happy.AND SEfa also sez: Who knows when the first Americans will show up on tourism - I mean the ones that don't work for World Vision or another so-called NGO that has the primary purpose to feed itself -WV, ugh...Yup donate to relieve the empty wallets of our extensive staff and management.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 8, 2017 - 5:43pm
Jeff
 
now mc wants you to weigh in on his troll war.
 
Not really, but when some idiot who doesn't know me accuses me of stuff like "the ones who come will pay YOUR ticket, loser" and shit like this my hat goes off...
Jeff Michka Added Nov 8, 2017 - 8:59pm
SEFa notes: Not really, but when some idiot who doesn't know me accuses me of stuff like "the ones who come will pay YOUR ticket, loser" and shit like this my hat goes off...-Although you and I disagree on some things, I've never considered you an NGO con man in the dealings you discussed online. To the contrary, so guess how I might feel about the same kind of crap. But I'm suppose to respond nicely and in "intellectual disagreement" or be accused of being a "troll" by those who seem to be more than a little "self serving," like the one you had the run-in with on this thread.
Flying Junior Added Nov 9, 2017 - 2:15am
Hey Stone,
 
This sounds like an adventure.  You have planned it carefully.  You are well prepared.
 
I hope you can afford a little tube amp!
 
I can't help but wonder if you imagine yourself playing with the local musicians.  Even if you never join a band, I wager there will be chances to get together with like-minded people.  Bonfires?  Parties?
 
It could happen.  I'm probably thinking that you and I are both in our thirties or forties.  Pure fantasy.  But I wish you well.  African music is definitely something to get excited about.
 
Every happiness.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 3:53am
FJ
 
I can't help but wonder if you imagine yourself playing with the local musicians.  Even if you never join a band, I wager there will be chances to get together with like-minded people
 
Thanks for your kind words.  Believe it or not - we had a band called Bama Saba in Mali for a year until I broke my hand, and we played local clubs 5 x a week :-)
 
And I'm for sure planning to do that again in Senegal, given there's musicians left who aren't into HipHop or Rap ;-)
 
And I hope that the fact that I'll be 60 next year won't be an obstacle !
Flying Junior Added Nov 9, 2017 - 4:05am
Carry on the proud tradition.  You don't have to be Arnold Schoenberg to keep up with chord changes.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 4:12am
Jeff
 
The NGO time is mostly over. We struggled for 10 years with afronum, could realize 3 containers with computers to be installed in schools and set up one IT school for the government which allowed our survival there but we never made profit, which wasn't intended anyway.
 
The trend of leasing computers in Switzerland instead of buying them dried out our supply of second hand material. Our best support was the Zurich Group insurance where I made my apprenticeship in the Seventies but that stopped years ago.
 
That's why we put up a consulting firm on advice of local friends and former local business partners, since I have enough experience after 24 years on and off in Africa. At the same time, the project we're realizing now is the 5 ha hot pepper plantation for the local market which will provide jobs in that rural area as well as a sanitation post for the workers.
 
And when some idiot thinks we're exploiting the population I tell him that we pay ourselves local wages and live modestly. People there aren't stupid, and when you try to play the neo-colonist you won't last long....
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 4:29am
BTW:
 
Many people who don't know Africa believe that Africans aren't sticking to something and change their plans and projects every day, which makes them look untrustworthy in their Western eyes.
 
The truth is that in such places life offers no security at all, so everybody has several projects or plans because if one fails another might pay off. It's a result of a non-existing or weak labour market and very high unemployment.
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 9, 2017 - 8:37am
Senegal is 92% muslim.  "Various incidents since 2007 suggest the presence of radical Islamic groups and individuals in Senegal well before the French intervention. In July 2012, for example, ten suspected members of a terrorist network were arrested in Dagana, northern Senegal and on 14 January 2013 the Senegalese Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mankeur Ndiaye, officially acknowledged the existence of dormant terrorist cells in the country.
But what are the real chances of religious radicalism leading to the formation of terror groups that connect with international Islamists and pose a threat to national security in Senegal?"  https://issafrica.org/iss-today/the-potential-danger-of-religious-radicalism-in-senegal
 
Good luck
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 9:12am
Thomas
 
In Europe there's approx. 30000 salafist sleepers. So what ? The confrereries in Senegal so far withstood IS stuff while Mali and Cameroon are threatened by Azawad and BH. In Cameroon I live 400 km from Boko Haram. So should I be afraid in Senegal ?
 
Certainly not. Our mass media only spreads fear.
 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 9:15am
BTW: Your link is dated 2013.
wsucram15 Added Nov 9, 2017 - 11:46am
I wish I could get there in 500.00.  I have tried and the cheapest fare I got was 1375.00.  I still get airfare alerts on the fares.  Also I am told there may be a ban on travel back from there at some point.
 Im sure thats a friend trying to scare me..but what can I say.
 
Jeff Michka Added Nov 9, 2017 - 12:32pm
SEFa writes: And when some idiot thinks we're exploiting the population I tell him that we pay ourselves local wages and live modestly. People there aren't stupid, and when you try to play the neo-colonist you won't last long...-Or accomplish much.  Sorry to hear you source for second hand gear dried up.  I don't think many people realize how valuable their second hand/used equipment really is, particularly in Africa or other places where it doesn't "grow on trees" @Best Buy. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 12:34pm
Jeanne
 
Ban on travel back ?!? That don't exist, or I've never heard of anything like that. Would mean that the US is an outdoor prison LOL
 
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Flights-g60811-o293831-Dakar_to_Washington.html
 
Actually I pay in january US$ 750 also for a return flight, but I booked with a health insurance in case of need, so that hospital there is covered for the 5 weeks I'm there. Although when I move there finally I also have to figure out how to do for health. Probably just put some cash aside.
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 9, 2017 - 1:34pm
Stone_Eater F., automatically in a muslim culture and nation you are a second class citizen and being a foreigner a third class citizen.  In Europe that is not the case.   Lebanon is a clear example what could happen.   The Armenian Genocide is another example of a christian second class citizen acceptable treatment. 
 
 
You are willing to take that risk.  That is your choice and I wish you good luck.  Only time will tell.  No one has the ability to see the future we can only look into the past to see what is possible.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 2:11pm
automatically in a muslim culture and nation you are a second class citizen and being a foreigner a third class citizen.  In Europe that is not the case.
 
Tell you what: It's the opposite, at least in Africa south of the Sahara Muslims are tolerant. In Europe Christians are prejudiced.
 
I have lived in both places for years. You too, since you have such a clear opinion ?
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 2:12pm
BTW: Thanks for wishing me luck. I know I already have it ;-)
Dino Manalis Added Nov 9, 2017 - 2:48pm
Enjoy yourself!  All the Best!
Thomas Sutrina Added Nov 9, 2017 - 2:52pm
Stone-Eater you did not comment on  Lebanon or Armenian Genocide?  The Ottoman Empire, Muslim Empire, was tolerant until they weren't.  Senegal is 92% Muslim which is closer to the Ottoman's in it's societal outlook.  Europe has been and is still a class structured society.  American is becoming one if we let the socialist continue making the Constitution a living document. 
 
Many would have said Rwanda that is south of the Sahara was tolerant before the genocide.   Class is built into Islam and with class comes prejudice and in the extreme genocide.  
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 3:21pm
Thomas
 
I just talk of Islam south of the Sahara, which is mixed with old animist beliefs and therefore more tolerant. Both Christian and Muslim holidays are celebrated. You can't compare Maghreb Islam with Black African Islam in Africa.
 
Ruanda is a Christian country, by the way....and the genocide was a result of French neocolonial policy.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 9, 2017 - 3:22pm
Dino
 
Thanks :-)
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2017 - 5:05pm
Hi Stone - I wish you luck in your new life. I am envious. If it wasn't for family I'd be very tempted to do the same. But the lure of children and grandchildren keeps me around.
wsucram15 Added Nov 9, 2017 - 5:15pm
SEF..we'll see how things turn out here.  Im not so sure.  I have a friend that goes to South Africa often, she is telling me there are problems coming back in and she travels a lot.
 
I dont even have a passport the goes off continent, I have a card-it was sent to me by mistake. Mine allows me to go to Canada and across to Mexico.  Once I cross a border I cant come back with my passport after Mexico if I fly. But I can go to Bermuda and the Caribbean by boat, which will never happen.
 
Jeff Michka Added Nov 9, 2017 - 7:33pm
I know wsucram said calling someone here stupid is wrong, but the we have the decayed subatomic particle as a human being, The Sutrino who actually sez: Europe has been and is still a class structured society.  American is becoming one if we let the socialist continue making the Constitution a living document.-Yeah, riiight.  Like the old SU, we're a classless society: upper classless, middle classless and lower classless.  And you blame socialists for this.  That's as funny as your constant anger about FDR.  I'VE ALWAYS SAID, RIGHTISTS AREN'T UPSET ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE NANCY PELOSI OR CHUCK SCHUMER, THEY'RE STILL ANGRY AT FDR over the New Deal...
Jeff Michka Added Nov 9, 2017 - 7:34pm
Just watch out for FDR hiding in a palm tree, SEFa!!
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 10, 2017 - 3:52am
Opher
 
If it wasn't for family I'd be very tempted to do the same
 
I know. My daughter is 14, and my family lives in Switzerland too (not my Cameroonian adoptive family). But you see, she's 14, and I promised her and my wife to stay 3 months in Senegal, then 1 month with my family here, then back......it's the only solution. I'm not an egoist, but in 4 years my daughter will be 18 and almost grown up, and if I don't do it now and wait, I will never do it, and regret it for the rest of my life in a retirement home in Switzerland and not in my house on the beach.....one has to go while force is still there and the situation presents itself advantageous.
 
After all my wife is African, and for her to go back won't be a problem. Of course my daughter can come too in a couple of years if she wants to, and there's no other family left in Switzerland to take care of. My two eldest daughters are grown up and have their own life.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 10, 2017 - 3:54am
Jeanne
 
Seems that control and restrictions for US citizens are on the rise....
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 10, 2017 - 3:59am
Jeff
 
I'd be more afraid that Merkel or Rasmussen will try to kill me by throwing coconuts at me ;-)
Gone Away Added Nov 10, 2017 - 6:22am
Stone Eater, I wish you every success in your retirement. Enjoy life and deal with any problems as philosophically as possible.
 
I don't really know you (or others here) but it saddens me to see the troll remarks on a subject that is personal. It is awful to see such mean heartedness on Writer Beat... :-(
opher goodwin Added Nov 10, 2017 - 6:32am
Stone - it is always a wrench but I think you have to do what is right for you. My family ties are more extensive than that. The wrench would be that much greater. My wife wouldn't ever consider it.
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 10, 2017 - 8:03am
Colette
 
Thank you. But hang on - that won't really be a retirement. Retirement means death to me LOL
 
BTW: I'm used to trolling and it doesn't give me sleepless nights ;-)
Jeff Michka Added Nov 10, 2017 - 4:51pm
SEFa sez: I'd be more afraid that Merkel or Rasmussen will try to kill me by throwing coconuts at me ;-)-From the same tree FDR is hiding in to scare the Sutrino?
Jeff Michka Added Nov 10, 2017 - 7:24pm
SEFa sez: Ban on travel back ?!? That don't exist, or I've never heard of anything like that. Would mean that the US is an outdoor prison LOL: You think that wall te Orange pisspot wants is to keep Mexicans out?  It's to keep people IN.  I hope they legalize pot in Canada.  A favorite day trip used to be going up to Vancouver BC.  Now you get hassled going into Canada because WA State is legalized, and so you are going to bring pot into Canada.  Conversely, US border guards try and find reasons not to let you back into the US. I've heard the same about international flights into US from travelers coming back into the States.  One presumes, prior to the Orange shithole's departure from office, there will be lists of people not allowed back into the US.  NO, THERE WON'T BE LAWS IN PLACE, BUT LIKE xo 9066 THAT interned Americans of Japanese ancestry IN WWII, all it will take is a quietly signed executive order "making it so." The Orange blob has boxes of cheap menu holders, but I bet that one won't get much press until people are prevented from coming home to the US
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 11, 2017 - 6:29am
Jeff
 
That's tough.......therefore I guess for the time being the US comes closest to a police state regarding Western countries. How can a country NOT take back its own citizens ? This is only the case in African countries where the government a) thinks that the ones who left are either criminals, or b) keep them in Europe in order to send money back to Africa...
 
....at least that's what we see here when we want to get to an agreement with some African states to get them to take back their citizens who immigrated here illegally.
Jeff Michka Added Nov 11, 2017 - 6:33pm
SEFa asks: That's tough.......therefore I guess for the time being the US comes closest to a police state regarding Western countries. How can a country NOT take back its own citizens ?-Obviously, any American that doesn't love and laud The Orange Turd CAN'T BE loyal citizens, at least that's how I expect it to be spun.  So they MUST BE terrorists, and must be kept out to keep Americans safe and Make America Great Again. 
Stone-Eater Friedli Added Nov 12, 2017 - 4:57am
Jeff
 
Looks like...but it seems to catch on. Your Dems have made the biggest mistake in nominating The Bitch, if they had taken an integer person Trump wouldn't have had a chance.
 
When Bernie had some backbone he'd have won.
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Nov 13, 2017 - 7:22pm
SEFa sez: When Bernie had some backbone he'd have won.-Well, process said he wasn't nominated, respective of DNC "HONESTY" or not, and had both sense and political grace to support the party nominee.  Bernie still has backbone, despite what someone on "The Medium" has to say about it.  Caitlyn Johnstone wants a real job as a journalist...somewhere and not have to write stuff for hacks and conspiracy theorists to keep busy, I'd guess.

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