Ethics and Astronomy: On Imperfection-A Theory on Declination- the Earth's Tilt, and its Relation to Polaris

I am infinite Time, the Creator ,Ordainer ,and indeed , the establisher of all things, facing in all directions. 

Bhagavad Gita,Chapter 10.

 

Christians are hypocrites.
....If you say," The man has a fault", We say," Not so. All Men have fault, that's why they worship the Lord"

...When scientists write an article for publication, do they hand in their first draft, or revise their articles and theories? Scientists make errors.

.... The Earth itself has an azimuth(its imperfection), its tilt angle varies between +23.45* to -23.45* degrees between summer and the winter solstice. Its tilt angle doesn't actually change much but it's like viewing the front and backside of the Earth as it revolves about the sun in its elliptical orbit. Tilt has a strong effect on seasons.

... This is why ancient calculations concerning one's position on the Earth and measurements of the sun, moon and stars were always incorrect.

... The Sun's declination is measured by the formula Declination of the Sun=Latitude-90*+Altitude of the Sun at solar noon

Latitude=Altitude of Polaris in the Northern Hemisphere

   

     Science answers how? It's not good at answering why?

If you ask a scientist why the Earth Spins on its axis they might say something about mutual gravity and conserving its angular momentum with regard to its inertia in Space.

   But, that's not why. The answer is simple: so that the whole earth gets sunlight. Because the Earth Spins it can support life, and there is no "dark side" of the Earth.

Comments

Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 18, 2017 - 5:17pm
Note: True North and Magnetic North will be different, the difference is the declination or the angle between the two.
       Magnetic North leads you to the North Pole(very closely). Magnetic north is good because the Lord corrects for the error. Magnetic North is in line with the North Star(Polaris). 
Nasty Added Nov 18, 2017 - 6:38pm
"Christians are hypocrites. "
That open, destroyed any credibility you were hoping for. I did not read your piece. NONE of us practice what we preach!
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 18, 2017 - 6:47pm
Nasty:
   What's the difference between a hippopotamus and an ignoramus?
The Hippopotamus is smarter(ignorance isn't smart).
   Hippopotamus, hippopotamuses, Hippocratic, hypocrites.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 18, 2017 - 7:08pm
Nasty:
   There is a fault in men(mankind) because they worship someone that is not their Creator, or they don't worship the Creator at all. 
     In any case the Lord covers the fault in men, since to achieve justice one must worship the Lord to cover fault, since men are imperfect.
     How can you have Justice without worshipping the Lord?
   A curse was placed on the Earth by Jehovah that men would toil and the earth would produce only thorns and thistles, and men could not go to heaven(the flaming sword and cherubim block their way to the Tree of Life).
     People no longer worship their Creator, and the Creator of every God and Angel, and so they were barred from heaven until Men could be relieved of their burden.
Thomas Napers Added Nov 19, 2017 - 3:58am
When scientists write an article for publication, do they hand in their first draft, or revise their articles and theories?
 
Nobody publishes a first draft.  I imagine they do revise articles or theories to the extent they are proved wrong.  What exactly are you trying to say in this article?  How have you demonstrated that Christians are hypocrites or that ethics and astronomy are imperfect?
 
For the record, a discussion about the Earth and how it spins is not a discussion about astronomy as the Earth is not a celestial object. 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 9:26am
Christians expect others to be perfect, and they pursue what they believe is justice without knowing that without the Lord's grace, kindness, Mercy, and benevolence that they are all imperfect.
  In Hebrew, Greek, and Latin by etymology, the name Johanna means " God is Gracious".
    The Lord is Gracious, he corrects for imperfection.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 9:30am
Thomas:
    The Earth's spin was used as an analogy for the purpose of Ethics.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 12:15pm
So the Earth has a front side, a back side, a right side, and a left side, and the elliptical orbit can be divided into 4 quadrants.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 12:26pm
So outside our solar system time might not be the same, because how would you keep time?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 12:31pm
On Earth a day has 24 hours. How many hours in a day outside our solar system? How many seconds in a minute?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 12:52pm
Genesis 1.5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
.    Why was there a night before there was a Sun? How long was a day?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 1:14pm
.   John 3.14 lAnd as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but o have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
     Jesus wanted people to believe in him not God.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 1:22pm
Jesus didn't say if you believed in God you would be saved, he said you had to believe in Him.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 19, 2017 - 1:50pm
"Christians are hypocrites. "
 
Poor start with a bigoted declaration. 
 
"Jesus didn't say if you believed in God you would be saved, he said you had to believe in Him."
 
..and to get to the father for such salvation through his son. You misinterpreted the comment and thrust of the New Testament. 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 1:58pm
Genesis:
    Genesis 1.5: And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. 
        The Fourth Day 1.14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
.  Why did God create day and night twice?
    Jews don't believe in Christ, so they be don't go to Heaven unless they confess Jesus is their Christ?
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 19, 2017 - 2:13pm
"Why did God create day and night twice?"
 
Why did God create lice or rats?
 
"Jews don't believe in Christ, so they be don't go to Heaven unless they confess Jesus is their Christ?"
 
Jews have never had any notion of an afterlife expect for a modern sect called Jews for Jesus. The Jews had their covenant. 
 
Heaven is defined in the New Testament with a new covenant. Jews can believe what they wish. So, can Christians. 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 2:18pm
Why was there light before there were stars or a Sun? Where did it come from? Why was there a night before there were stars or a Sun?
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 19, 2017 - 3:53pm
Since Christians are hypocrites, just why do you want to know?
 
Such answers are, apparently from comments from some of my associates, to be found in the splendor of taking drugs, particularly LSD.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 3:56pm
Why do Christians get so angry and offended by one sentence? Then they insult others whenever they please?
   Hypocrites!!
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 7:12pm
rycK:
    Why did the Lord create the Lord Shiva?
His purpose is to defeat evil not defend it or support it or love it.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 19, 2017 - 8:54pm
The 24 hour day is wrong. They are off by 23.45 hours every year(declination of the sun). It takes approximately 24 hours for one rotation of the Earth, but it takes 365 24 hour days for the Earth to revolve around the Sun. 365/7=52 and 1/7.  Days in a year should by divisible by number of weeks.
    God created the Earth and herbs on the third day, but the Sun on the fourth day?
Dino Manalis Added Nov 20, 2017 - 8:41am
We're imperfect and need to constantly strive to make improvements!
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 20, 2017 - 2:04pm
Barath
 
"rycK:

 Why did the Lord create the Lord Shiva?
His purpose is to defeat evil not defend it or support it or love it."
 
Who said the Lord did this? 
 
"You shall have no other gods before me"
 
The Ten Commandments
2"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. 3"You shall have no other gods beforeMe. 4"You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.…
New American Standard Bible
 
Maybe it was one of the other gods. There are many.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 20, 2017 - 2:45pm
If you don't wind a watch eventually the hands stop spinning.
The Earth is under the gravitational forces of the sun and moon and planets, so why does it keep spinning?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 20, 2017 - 2:54pm
rycK:
  Your God doesn't really exist, neither did Jesus or Moses, because Jehovah is not the Creator.
    There was a God before Jehovah. Jehovah is not the Creator.
     Your God is megalomaniac, he wanted all the power for himself by saying there is no other God but him.
     Jesus was a contrivance of the Lord, so was Jehovah to defeat you.
No Lord likes arrogant assholes. So then why are you one? Because Jehovah hated you and wanted to destroy you.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 20, 2017 - 4:05pm
Barath
 
"rycK:
  Your God doesn't really exist, neither did Jesus or Moses, because Jehovah is not the Creator."
 
"No Lord likes arrogant assholes. So then why are you one? Because Jehovah hated you and wanted to destroy you."
 
I guess you know who the3 'real creator is??
 
You and insulting and should not be posting such ad hominem comments. 
 
 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 20, 2017 - 7:47pm
rycK:
    It's my thread, I didn't delete your comments. 
The man on the Cross is an image of death on a crucifix, and how can there no other God than Jehovah since his Creator came first?
   Jehovah is not the Creator, how could he be? He created fruit bearing trees and green plants before Creating the Sun or Stars?
  He Created Night before day, and day before the stars and Sun?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 21, 2017 - 8:28am
Relativity: From the Sun's point of view between Equinoxes the Earth has shifted from right to left, but from the Earth's point of view its tilt is the same.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Nov 21, 2017 - 10:50am
Apparently you are trying to portray God from elementary physical laws.
 
Good luck. 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 21, 2017 - 2:31pm
Theory-Next part:
      There is a magnetic axis parallel to the Earth's rotational axis at 11.7* degrees(the tilt of the rotational axis is 23.45*), it is a dipole, at the North pole it is negatively charged and positively charged at the South pole, and so it acts to pull west against the Earth's rotational axis like a see saw, and offsets gravity through electromagnetism.
   Gravity is essentially negative electromagnetic energy, negative-negative repel, or push away from each other.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 21, 2017 - 3:24pm
I'm guessing that if you measure the pole star from the rotational axis North Pole, and from the geomagnetic North Pole that there will be a difference of approximately 1*latitude.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 21, 2017 - 10:48pm
I'll postulate that if you triangulate the the points of the axes of the geomagnetic North Pole, the magnetic North Pole, and the geographic North Pole, and calculate the altitude of Polaris, the North Star that there is a magnetic field there which deflects gravitational energy and correlates to the phenomena of the Northern lights.
     The North Pole is geographically the highest point on the Earth, the top of the World, in a sense like Mount Everest; if you can go there, look up at Polaris and say a prayer, well, you'll go to Heaven.
Henry Ortiz Added Nov 22, 2017 - 11:00am
Barath what is that you are trying to demonstrate?, that Christians are hypocrites? That Astronomy is not ethicality? Or that we all are imperfect? Please clarify.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 22, 2017 - 12:04pm
    The article has many purposes, not just one, but what do you think it is about.
      I think that thinking about the Solar system and stars this way makes people more interested in science. Why should you care whether the Earth is tilted or not, about Polaris is true north or not, or how to determine your latitude from the position of the Sun or Stars, or whether the Earth goes around the Sun? 
   Useless information that you don't need to understand?
Henry Ortiz Added Nov 22, 2017 - 1:46pm
I have no idea. The title of the article does not have anything to do with your first statement about Christians. Then, about your earth information and ethics???. Finally imperfection and science?, Christianity?, or ethics?
 
I am sorry but I found no sense.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 22, 2017 - 2:13pm
Henry:
   That's okay, it might be useful to others.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 22, 2017 - 3:47pm
 . " According to the Puranas, Meru, the home of the Gods, forms the central point of the Universe, all the planets revolving around it...
     The learned author A.H.V. shows that Meru is the (terrestrial)North Pole and quotes the following verses....describing its polar characteristics" 
Kumarashambhava of Kalidasa,
by M. R. Kale
notes.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 24, 2017 - 3:12pm
    The Earth's elliptical is a actually higher at one end of the elliptical, and at its lowest point at the Summer Solstice. At the Equinoxes it is at the same altitude in the relation to the Sun. The orbit is tilted which is why the altitude of the Sun  changes when measured during different times of the year.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 24, 2017 - 5:12pm
Latitude at the North Pole is 90*North, so it's longitude 0* or longitude 360*. It depends on which direction you're facing.
   North side, East side, South side, West side.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 24, 2017 - 5:51pm
If you begin with Eastside equals zero degrees, then North East is 315 degrees, or 45 degrees between North and East on the Earth?   What is 315 degrees North east on the globe?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 24, 2017 - 6:03pm
The Lord did not begin civilization in the Mid-east, he began it in the North-east. It did not begin on the Middle East.
    The Lord favors the place where he began civilization because it came first. 
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 24, 2017 - 7:19pm
    Or what is land is between the 30th parallel and 45th parallel?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 25, 2017 - 12:09pm
    The Earth's elliptical is a actually higher at one end of the elliptical, and at its lowest point at the Summer Solstice. At the Equinoxes it is at the same altitude in the relation to the Sun. The orbit is tilted, which is why the Earh's center of gravity changes, and this why the altitude of the Sun  changes when measured during different times of the year.
   I need experimental data to take the theory further.
    What are the angles measured between the North pole, the Sun and Polaris, at the Solstices and Equinoxes.
     What is the right and left tilt of the Earth on the Equinoxes in degrees of declination from longitude?
   Using Latitude, declination of the Sun, and altitude of the Sun how do I calculate longitude without reference to time at the Prime Meridian?
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 25, 2017 - 1:19pm
...At the highest part of the Eliptical. December Solstice, the Sun's gravitational force on the Earth is greater so the geographic axis  tilts forward, -23.45 degrees because the rotational axis is behind it. At the lowest point in the elliptical the gravitational force of the Sun is weakest, the geographical axis tilts behind the rotational axis(it is in front) +23.45 degrees.
  It is the geographical axis that tilts.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 25, 2017 - 1:55pm
The Earth's rotational axis is always tilted towards the North Star(Polaris) because it is at the center of the Celestial Sphere.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 26, 2017 - 12:11am
So the Earth has a front side, back side, right side and left side. The geographic axis is in front or in back, right or left of the rotational axis.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 26, 2017 - 12:26am
The Earth's ecliptic(orbit) is tilted if the Sun is the center of the Solar system, but if Polaris is the center then the ecliptic is not actually tilted. The rotational axis is pointed towards the center(Polaris).
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 27, 2017 - 6:19pm
    The Declination won't be read by your compass, you'll have to measure the altitude of the Sun(Unless it's an Equinox).
     On Solstices the Earth will only have a declination. On the Equinoxes it will only have a right or left ascension. Every day in between a solstice and an Equinox will have both.
   Tilt affects latitude, right or left ascension affects longitude.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 27, 2017 - 6:30pm
The reason there is no declination at an Equinoxes is because the rotational and geographic axes are aligned.
   Gravitational forces on the Earth are vectors, one forces pulls the geographic pole South, the other East or West, since no point is north of the North Pole.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 27, 2017 - 6:40pm
Note: That is why it has angular momentum.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 27, 2017 - 7:01pm
But, if the Earth's axis stays on the same meridian(Solstices)only the latitude will change.
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 29, 2017 - 2:03am
Instead of saying East or West, on a Solstice I should say the declination is North or South, tilt forward or tilt backward.
     
Barath Nagarajan Added Nov 29, 2017 - 10:28pm
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When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
Anything your heart desires will come to you...
When you wish upon a star
As dreamers do
Fate is kind
...
Like a bolt out of the blue
Fate steps in and sees you through
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true
Linda Ronstadt
 
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Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 1, 2017 - 9:30am
The Earth's rotational axis is tilted at 23.45 degrees, it goes through the center of (mass) the Earth to the South Pole, but it will read 0 degrees or 360 on your compass.
    Geographic North will shift from in front to behind or right to left of it.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 11:28am
The geomagnetic axis and the rotational axis are magnetic(dipoles), the geographic axis is gravitational.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 12:28pm
The gravitational axis stabilizes the rotational axis, it intersects the geomagnetic axis and rotational axis which run parallel to each other near the center of mass.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 12:47pm
As a metaphor it would resemble a drawn sling shot, with the gravitational axis pulling against the geomagnetic and rotational axes.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 7:56pm
Revised theory on axial precession:I'm still thinking about this.
Axial Precession- is like a Spinning thimble or top, it wobbles as it turns on its axis, as it does the axis itself goes around another axis(the celestial axis), the thimble itself goes in a circle as its axis turns because it wobbles.
  The Earth is like a pendulum clock, the Earth is tilted roughly 23.5 degrees on its axis, but it has a second axis, true/north-south axis. The magnetic axis always points towards magnetic north but the geographic pole moves North or South in relation to magnetic north, it tilts about magnetic north like the arm of a pendulum clock or a compass needle..
 
Pretend you set your cruise control on your speedometer to 60mph. You then go up a hill the speedometer goes down to 55mph but your cruise control slowly pulls it back to sixty. Then you go down a hill and your speedometer goes to 65mph but your cruise control pulls it slowly back to sixty. The geographic axis will  pull back towards the center of mass stabilizing the rotational axis because the rotational is tilted and  it tends to move along with its wobble.

The effect of gravity on a car when it goes up a hill is to pull it down and back, when it goes down a hill is to pull it down and forward.
  Because of the Earth's tilt magnetic north always point towards the North Star but geographic north has shifted from forward to behind magnetic north.
Magnetic north is made stable because the 3 poles form a triangle. An additional axis I would consider goes through the center of the Equator from (Westside to Eastside) through the center of mass, which is mostly iron.
Magnetic north always points towards Polaris, but geographic North shifts from in front to behind of magnetic north. The Earth's axis always points towards the North Star(during any year), but the Earth's position changes in relation to the Sun, from tilted forward to to tilted backwards, or between right tilt and left tilt.
Magnetic declination measures the difference between geographic north and magnetic north, which oscillates between +or- 23.45* degrees. Magnetic North is in the middle at 0*degrees on your compass, but geographic north would have shifted North or South of magnetic north.
Note: All points on a compass will read South East or South West of the North pole. In actuality the Earth has right ascension or left, and declination, or tilt forward or backward.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 8:20pm
Note: There is also an axis that goes between front side and backside, and Eastside and Westside, so that when there is a right or left ascencion the equatorial plane tilts.
Barath Nagarajan Added Dec 4, 2017 - 8:35pm
I would not say that the plane of the Earth tilted. I would say the Earth has conserved its momentum in order to maintain its tilt. Its tilt did not change, the Earth simply maintained its position, in order to do so it switches sides.