A Letter from me to the President of the United States....

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Dear Mr. President:

 

As a US Citizen that actually did attend your inauguration in order to give you some support as I was keenly aware of what the day after your inauguration was going to look like.  I also promised a strong supporter of yours to give you an opportunity to “Make America Great”, which I felt I have done on the other hand I cant say you have returned any promise to the citizens of this country.  I see you have become frustrated with the opposition, but people would have nothing to oppose if you actually kept your word and did your job, the voters must believe in you and the majority do not.

 

I am not sure where to start but you have let me down as a citizen with your oath of office to uphold the Constitution and protect the rights of All American Citizens, under the bill of rights. This applies to ALL citizens, under the 14th Amendment as well, which is a reconstruction law addressing citizenship and equal protection rights.  Something you have not done in office in any manner.

 

While You are allowed certain privileges of your office it seems to me that you and your family have abused tax payer money from the beginning.   You vowed to cut costs to the taxpayer but while you have curbed costs after criticism, as of October 2017, your costs were as follows, UNDISPUTED BY REPUBLICANS- “Judicial Watch, who have vowed to monitor Trump’s travel expenses as closely as they did Obama’s (FOIA requests are already on file), reported in July 2017 that two months into Trump’s presidency taxpayers were already on the hook for $3.58 million in charges for air travel alone (i.e., excluding auxiliary costs such as Secret Service housing, local transportation, police protection, etc.) by the president, first lady, and vice president during February and March. That’s roughly $1.8 million per month, $700,000 more than the Obamas’ monthly average, which included the auxiliary costs we don’t yet have for Trump.  Ths does NOT include the Mar-a-largo trips which are questionable and have totaled in the vicinity of 21million. Your golf cart rentals alone are 103,000 for security. (another source).

 

On another note, If you were unhappy with Sally Yates and James Comey both, you did not give them a chance to resign. The way you requested Jeff Sessions do when you were disappointed in his performance. Instead you held a very public firing causing a great deal of possible legal problems for yourself, your staff and expense for the American taxpayer.

 

You admitted on television to investigative interference and also under open testimony both Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats and CIA Director Mike Pompeo could not say “No” when asked if you pressured them into Speaking to Comey about stopping the FBI probe into Flynn.  They had to be called again into special session with committee.

 

Then it was exposed that you might have known all along about Flynn, which I think everyone knows, but yet allowed the cost to taxpayers by not being forthright and handling the situation immediately, had you done so, we may not be having an investigation at this time.  All of this could have been eloquently avoided and the problem with all of this is that you know that and in retrospect should have acted accordingly, as a leader needs to do, saving millions of taxpayer dollars.

 

In addition in 2016, you tried to take advantage of the taxpayers of South Carolina by lying on an application to have one of your businesses acquired from Don Jr, cleaned up from harmful waste due to the disregard he showed the land there.  Your lie was discovered and you did get stuck with the millions in costs to do the clean up, but that did not prevent you from continuing to try to take advantage of US citizens until February 16, 2017.  Your people had from November 8th until the application was being reviewed to change it…and they did nothing.  Its not the only questionable issue during the transition but this particular one is  a prima facia example of your ethics and morality in leadership.

 

Furthermore, on another topic, with our allies you attack them.   When London was attacked in June 2017, you tweeted “against the Muslim mayor of London”… At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"  and went on to state “Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!”   You run the United States…not London, it is not your job to upset citizens of another country and the leaders which are longtime allies.

 

You have insulted the leaders of several countries that we are allied with, Australia, Germany, France, Iran, Mexico, the UK, and it was not until we could not get some order with North Korea that you were forced to make some sort of peace with China and President Xi, who you also repeatedly insulted.

 

On that note, you have alienated the Palestinians with your announcement of moving the US Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem at the behest of evangelicals, more or less making that a governmental capital.  This has been a delicate issue of regional unrest for many years and again, not one I am convinced should even begin to be a US decision, let alone a decision I am convinced you as President should be making with limited or the biased knowledge of your Son-in-law or evangelicals.   US Policy is to stay away from religion, but you are indeed bringing the biblical truth to light with this step.   In fact, I have heard.. the land allocated by Israel to the US embassy in Jerusalem is a private Palestinian property belonging to 76 original owners of Palestinian refugees, including 90 American citizens from Palestinian origin. Seriously is the US to become involved in a international lawsuit as well?

 

However aside from your seeming lack of respect for our Constitution and working class peoples tax money, your most egregious offense seems to be lack of respect towards ALL women or people considered a minority class.  You give white men a false sense of security in a world where they are no longer in control, which is fine, for now.   I assume you are feeling the weakening of power with each Republican loss, especially those you and Bannon Support.   You forget these is an entire nation that either did not vote or voted against you, and they are active now, working in opposition of anyone that acts against the rights of the people. Such as your former advisor Steve Bannon who advises you on things like Roy Moore and his candidacy.  Are you still making America Great Again? As a young girl I was raped by an adult male.  I don't believe you are and Roy Moore definitely was not.  As a politician, you don't need to be Jesus, but to be a respectful human being towards others is essential, also you need to understand the law.  There is a large majority that has formed, some of whom are republicans to get away from this gutter politicking. We want to make our country great again..

 

In addition to that, the only major legislation you have pushed supports NOT YOUR BASE or the MIDDLE CLASS over time, but the wealthy, such as your children, donors and your business associates.  Since you have by making Israel a Christian conversation, I remind you of Isiah 10- ““Woe to those decree unrighteous decrees, Who write misfortune, Which they have prescribed to rob the needy of justice, and to take what is right from the poor of My people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless.  Isiah. 5:26To whom will you flee for help? and where will you leave your glory? Without Me they shall bow down among the Is. 24:22prisoners, and they shall fall among the slain.”

 

Many of your followers are faith- based, not greed based like yourself.   They want nothing to do with the money changers and its why you were elected.   But eventually they too, will see you for what you are.

 

As the President, would it not be better to work in uniting ALL the people? As opposed to empowering a small base support for only you? Your base at times even questions your abilities on certain issues, particularly after the past two state level elections.  Although you do seem to be able to tell them what they want to hear as long as it suits your agenda when needed.  I imagine it would be a difficult job to unite all people in the US since we all dislike one another and ALL want something different. Which I am sure as long as it took me to write that sentence is how much thought you gave to Americans thoughts and or Dreams.  Also stop pressuring your GOP Senators and Representatives to prove something against an investigation by the book against you. If you did nothing wrong, then these people will not charge you.  No one hates you that much.  NO ONE.  WE WANT THE TRUTH   and WE WILL GET THE TRUTH. I promise what you have seen so far is nothing from the resistance and #metoo.

  

I apologize for being disrespectful, but feel you must earn respect, which in my eyes you have not done, not in your entire life.

 

Have a Happy Holiday Season,

 

Sincerely…

A Concerned Taxpayer.

Comments

wsucram15 Added Dec 13, 2017 - 10:08pm
This is a letter I wrote to the Prez...Have a good Holiday.
Oh also, its an opinion.  Not going to argue...:)
 
Mike Haluska Added Dec 13, 2017 - 10:29pm
Travel costs . . . really???  That's your "Constitutional Crisis"
 
Four words of advice 
Grow up - you lost.
wsucram15 Added Dec 13, 2017 - 10:45pm
I neither have a constitutional crisis or need travel costs.  I am just aware of what is being spent. Just as in past presidencies and for the Congress.  In fact, with Congress I have asked them about that.
No mike I will not..and I did not.  Im not sure Trump is leaving on his own..but he might get forced out.
It wont have a damn thing to do with me...its his own fault.
wsucram15 Added Dec 13, 2017 - 10:56pm
Sorry..I see your confusion, I fixed it.
Bill H. Added Dec 13, 2017 - 11:18pm
 
Wsu - Good letter!
Hope Trump gets to read it also.
I'm not sure how long the Teflon Tangerine can hold out, but I also suspect that he may end up resigning before getting impeached, and it won't be pretty. I'm not sure a person like him could mentally handle the impeachment process.
It is certainly a bad period in our history, but ironically it may be a learning experience for all (or most). And it may also actually help reunite the country in the end.
Tubularsock Added Dec 13, 2017 - 11:53pm
wsucram15, nice try but Tubularsock must remind you that Orange Tweet can't read more that 20 words at any one time and compound sentences are way too difficult for his comprehension ability.
 
Your information is right on but you are going to have to also use smaller words like "it" and "to" and maybe a "you" if you want to help broaden his understanding.
 
But Tubularsock is impressed with your attempt to communicate with our Orange Tweet-ster but don't  get your hopes up too high.
 
Remember Santa Clause this year is only going to leave black lung disease and lumps of coal this year under the $500,000.00 White House Xmas Tree.
 
As Tubularsock always says: Put the "X" back in Christmas!
Peace and good cheer to you, wsucram15.
 
William Stockton Added Dec 14, 2017 - 12:20am
Here's the irony Jeanne.
 
" Its not the only questionable issue during the transition but this particular one is  a prima facia example of your ethics and morality in leadership."
"However aside from your seeming lack of respect for our Constitution and working class peoples tax money, your most egregious offense seems to be lack of respect towards ALL women or people considered a minority class."  -- you
 
What two brain cells convinced you that he would read your letter in contrast to your outlandish assessments of him? 
 
The irony is pretty weird.  But look at the bright side:  you all still have your pink pussy hats.  Those will come to good use in the next 3 (7?) years just as they have in the first year when you "gave Trump a fair chance".
omg
George N Romey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 7:21am
Trump is in over his head. He never prepared for the job thinking he could just wing it. We have no functional government just a bunch of rich spoiled brats duking it out.
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 8:03am
Well rest assured...I send him plenty of tweets..used to be 140 characters or less.  Now its 280.   I do a lot of pictures, they speak much more than words.
That should answer your question...oh and in case you question him reading these things, he has never deleted me personally, just many of the protestors I deal with.  So he (or someone on his staff ) reads those things. 
Crazy world we live in right?
 
As far as a letter..no I dont imagine he can keep up with the hate mail. But I try to write him a letter every couple of months.  Some have been positive. Some not so much. My first 100 day letter was a real hoot.
 
William- I found a black pussy hat...I might wear that to the next gathering, which is happening soon.  I dont like the color pink.
Dismiss it all you like..its going to cost you the house, senate and maybe the Presidency.
You can take that condescending shit somewhere else, those days are over William.
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 8:11am
BilH..
Actually all jokes aside, and I have told Trump this personally via twitter...
I hope he didnt do anything wrong and holds out.  If he is innocent he has nothing to worry about.  I would rather he be there than Pence or Ryan.  I really don't want an impeachment..because you would have to impeach half of Congress if not all as well.   (at least get resignations).
Now I also told him, the biggest threat to him (and I heard this in DC) was Pence. Now its on the news from time to time.
This is such a mess..and DC is insane right now. People were cheering Rosenstein. People are out in droves. Its nuts, Im home for a couple of days on phone duty.  Then back at it. 
Its January you need to watch..
 
Thomas Sutrina Added Dec 14, 2017 - 8:29am
My guess is that you were in Washington for the Women's March, an anti-Trump affair.  I didn't read all of what you wrote because it was boring, drowning on by repeating the liberal script that have been presented from the day crooked Hillary lost.  Very one sided.
 
You throw out this pretense of being fair, "As a US Citizen that actually did attend your inauguration in order to give you some support as I was keenly aware of what the day after your inauguration was going to look like."   But your as fair as the Mueller and his attack squad.  Arrogant bureaucrats, master minds, that are above the people so they were not concern producing those hundreds of emails to expose them.   Wasted enough  1or 0 on this. 
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 9:31am
Thomas
I have told you more than once (in spite of what you heard in the media) that the womans march was NOT and anti-trump march. It was a pro-choice march and was most definitely against many of his proposed policies yes. 
The people that openly attacked Trump at that march were ostracized.
You pay too much attention to the media..come out and see what is going on Thomas.  You dont have to change your mind, but you should stop listening to the news and see things for yourself.
I promise you, as a US Citizen, I have done more for the President than anyone on here.  Including discussions with organizers and other Congressional members this past year on specific topics.
 
I just cannot defend him anymore...Ive never liked his background and I am honest about this, but I have tried on some issues to cut him slack.
 
However people have descended and an attack is happening right now and will go through January.  In all major cities but specifically DC.   Ive been in the thick of it already.
 
Dino Manalis Added Dec 14, 2017 - 9:36am
Trump is trying to keep his campaign promises, but I agree, the president should pay for his personal expenses when he travels.  He's politically inexperienced and needs to be taken into consideration.  Trump needs advise on everything from appropriate tweets to policymaking and the vice president could help him with some of that.  Trump is learning and improving, but not as quickly as most of us would like.
Even A Broken Clock Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:03am
Tax returns! Tax returns!
 
Thanks for bringing a smile to my face today. Anything that Thomas finds excruciatingly boring is great to me. The problem is, you won't convince anyone who is for Trump with your statement of facts and opinions. Their minds have set up like clumps of grout left behind after a poor remodeling project.
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:09am
EABC...Thank you.  I have to laugh, do you know 15 people have jumped on my twitter since your poem?  Just saying.
Im not trying to convince them..I just posted a letter.  I think this is my 5th letter to him, (not counting tweets).
 
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:16am
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Bill Kamps Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:17am
wsu, all I can say is that if you supported Trump when he got elected, none of this should  really come as a surprise to you. 
 
You knew he was a narcissist, more so than most who have resided at the White House.  You knew he had no experience in politics, and therefore probably didnt know or care about the niceties of the office, and how to address other politicians. 
 
You knew he would probably trip over some of the restraints we have within government that  dont exist in the private sector.  Things like disclosure rules, rules that require documentation when meeting with foreign leaders, etc.
 
You knew he lacked respect for people in his communication style, and in particular he lacked respect for minorities, the handicapped, women, to just name a few.
 
You knew he would attack anyone viciously that even came close to attacking him.
 
These things we all knew because they were on full display during the  campaign. Since you knew all this when you went the inauguration,  why are you surprised and disappointed now?  Did you really think a man of 70 years old was going to change how he behaved???
 
It should come as no surprise that his tax plan benefits the rich first and foremost.  This is what the rich do, they help themselves and their friends.  The cant even comprehend the plight of the middle class and think that most people that make under $100K dont pay enough  taxes for their  tax rate to matter.  In Trump's world of accounting a few thousand dollars are round off errors, and hardly worth the bother of thought.
 
 
 
George N Romey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:17am
I believe the system needs to go into total meltdown its so corrupt and beyond repair.  Trump is nothing more than one of the tragic court jesters in a Shakespeare play.  We need to see dozens upon dozens of Congressmen (women) and Senators hauled off in handcuffs for fraud, dirty dealing, sexual harassment and if some very seemingly smart people are right pedophilia.  Just maybe the entire swamp built to please and delight the money elite would sink into the murky waters.  
wsucram15 Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:24am
George,
Im with you..but you have to jump in the muddy water and help me fight.  On this page, I think there is only one maybe two other people fighting back.
Get involved, whether you agree with me or not politically. We need to clean up DC.  It cant be done without the people.
George N Romey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:40am
Jeanne the system has to crash and burn first.  An Executive crisis with Trump being forced out of office and an immensely unpopular and untrustworthy Pence being the result might be the catalyst.  Remember this man is hated by Trump supporters. 
Leroy Added Dec 14, 2017 - 10:52am
Nice hit piece, WSU!  Are you trying to get hired by CNN?
William Stockton Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:00am
"Dismiss it all you like..its going to cost you the house, senate and maybe the Presidency.
You can take that condescending shit somewhere else, those days are over William."
 
Oohh.  The complete takeover of our government (all branches) by angry women in pussy hats.  I can't wait to see the trailer!  It would be even better if they wore bikinis and spoke Russian.
Bill H. Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:11am
Many hoped that Trump would "adjust" after some time in office, but the opposite has occurred.
He is not willing to take advice from anyone and as always, acts on a whim based on only his thought or gut reaction at the moment. He constantly holds his staff in fear of losing their positions and reputations while spewing his negative and constantly misleading and fictitious discourse like a spoiled child that didn't get his way. He has changed many of the Government Agencies that originally provided protections and services to the citizens into pockets of power that only serve to benefit his empire and those of his business friends and associates. He is close to changing our tax system into yet another goldmine for corporations and the ultra-rich at the resulting expense of those who supported him.
What may turn out to be the worst product of this Presidency is his constant efforts to demean and alienate the leaders of other countries around the world. In doing so, he does not only make a fool of himself, but instills a negative view of Americans and our position in the world community.
Some may find him entertaining and "cool", along with actually still believing that he cared for them and that they mattered, as he told them during his campaign. Others simply love the rhetoric that he constantly spews about "the other side", and his brazen unpredictable manner.
As time goes on, I suspect that even many of his present diehard supporters will become “former” Trump supporters – and for many others, the heat of Trump passion will begin to fade into the cold morning light.
opher goodwin Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:22am
Great letter and an indictment of a man that is proving more of a disaster for America than he looked to be in the campaign.
opher goodwin Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:23am
Mike - Grow up - You are losing.
In fact you are losing every single day that that orange buffoon is in power. He's robbing you blind.
Dave Volek Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:34am
I'm in agreement with Bill Kamps. The USA is getting exactly what it saw on the campaign trail. In this sense, Mr. Trump is one of the most honest politician we have elected.
 
Like it or not, Mr. Trump does have the legitimate right to govern as president. And even if he lost the election, he still had the support of many, many Americans to govern. The USA would have had to deal with that social force in one way or another with a Trump loss.
 
In essence, Mr. Trump is an experiment America needs to go through. Hopefully it will learn some important lessons. But I'm not so sure.
 
 
 
Bill Kamps Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:50am
Dave, i agree, that it is an experiment we need to go through.
 
We often hear how we should have a business person running government, we now we have one.  It comes with its own set of problems as doing international business, is not the  same as being President, and we dont really want it to be. 
 
Certainly Trump is ignoring many of the diplomatic niceties that wsu complains about.  While Trump may  be no better or worse than many in Congress with regards to sexual harassment, he hasnt spent his time covering  these things up with the help of Congressional policy, so his actions are more out in the open.  We knew that going on.
 
If Trump gets impeached it will be because he ran afoul of laws that affect people in government, or people campaigning for government that dont affect business people.
 
As a businessman I can talk to anyone from any country without reporting to the government what I am doing.  There are a few, very few restrictions on doing business with some of these countries, but  talking is  completely permissible.  Its not so with people in government.   So I can talk to people from Iran, Cuba, Russian, North Korea, and not tell the government about these conversations.  In some cases I can do business, and in other cases I cant.  But people in government have to be much more careful.  Trump being Trump, probably didnt care about the rules, even if he was aware of them. 
Stone-Eater Added Dec 14, 2017 - 12:23pm
Jeanne
 
As long as there's people like you in the US I have hope.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 14, 2017 - 12:24pm
Oph
 
The trouble is that we're directly affected by what happens in the US. Not the same with China, India or Russia. Why ? Because they're not in NATO.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 14, 2017 - 12:30pm
BTW Jeanne
 
The only thing I wonder is: How could you ever think that The Bitch would have been better than Trump ? Maybe she has more brains, but she is way more dangerous. Trump is NOT a prez, he's a businessman, that shows all the time. And when the rest of the DC gang would let him do his business instead of pressing for war, he'd have a good tête-à-tête with Putin and the danger of more problems would be solved. Trump doesn't want war. He simply wants to be the no.1 guy in all respects, and war would not serve him good in the long run.
 
The trouble is that his way of "diplomacy" is not understood in other cultures, and these misunderstandings can easily lead to war. Losing face is not a Western thing.....
Stone-Eater Added Dec 14, 2017 - 12:38pm
BTWII
 
Take Tillerson. This guy knows how to handle things, has experience in dealing and knows how to move in other cultures. If Trump kicks him out by advice of the MIC "advisers" he will have lost the last respected guy in his team.
 
The way he treats him shows that he doesn't have any idea about how to rule and appear as a world leader on the international stage.
 
If I were Trump, I'd let Tillerson do his job and approve his tries to calm the situation. The fact that he doesn't, shows that he either understands shit or he is under heavy pressure by the MIC.
George N Romey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 1:11pm
Trump is in over his head. The Washington establishment is out for his scalp. I don’t think he ever anticipated just how they would come after with a vengeance. He’s dead meat either way. This has always been about maintaining the corporate/Wall Street/MIC status quo. Pence will bring that back in a heartbeat.
Thomas Sutrina Added Dec 14, 2017 - 2:40pm
The problem with your belief is that the is doesn't match the words spoken by the speakers on TV and it doesn't match the people that fund the organization needed to create the march.  So you and many women may have gone to the march not as a anti-trump protest but that is not the message the media presented.
"I have told you more than once (in spite of what you heard in the media) that the woman's march was NOT and anti-trump march." 
Dave Volek Added Dec 14, 2017 - 2:46pm
Bill Kamps
Trump will be impeached if the American economy tanks in his term. Otherwise he just might win the next election.
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Dec 14, 2017 - 5:45pm
Nice letter to the Orange Il Duce, wsucram15! As to your still-pard Geo:  George, Im with you..but you have to jump in the muddy water and help me fight.-He won't fight, he won't do anything.  According to him, nothing can be done, and if buying into Geo's means anything, he's basically said you are wasting your time. i DON'T THINK YOU ARE, but give up on Geo.  He's a waste of everybody's time, including his own, but he knows that.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 14, 2017 - 5:47pm
The Sutrino insists: "I have told you more than once (in spite of what you heard in the media) that the woman's march was NOT and anti-trump march." -Yup, she has told everyone this, and what do you find you can't believe, decayed particle Sutrino?  Whadda idiot.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 14, 2017 - 5:52pm
Nazi Tom Purcell sez: Not that the material in the article is total rubbish, but most of it is.  This article is what CNN can do to the meek minded.-AND  Opher's comments are fed directly to him by the anti-Trump mainstream American media. -Whereas your comments can be attributed to "The Daily Stormtrooper" and Billy the Nazi?
opher goodwin Added Dec 14, 2017 - 5:57pm
Tom - since I don't get any American Media that is strange. Are they now beaming them to me subliminally in my sleep through some secret beam?
opher goodwin Added Dec 14, 2017 - 5:58pm
Stone - too true. That is the problem. The shit Trumps stirs up effects us directly.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 14, 2017 - 6:04pm
opher notes: Are they now beaming them to me subliminally in my sleep through some secret beam? -Ask Tom for a spare tinfoil hat, guess that protects him.  LOL
George N Romey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 6:25pm
Mika your dumb enough to believe people like Rachael Maddie. 
Katharine Otto Added Dec 14, 2017 - 6:32pm
Jeanne,
I usually don't read articles about Trump, because everyone seems so obsessed with him.  However, I respect you and admire you for caring.  I used to care enough to inform myself about details and write letters to presidents, like GW Bush--but I finally decided it didn't make any difference.  The ship of state is on its own course, and even the president can't do much to change its path.  
 
I agree with George Romey, that we need a major house cleaning.  Trump is symptomatic of internal rot, someone who has made his fortune and won the presidency by gaming the system.  Lots of people respect and admire that and could care less about integrity.
 
More power to you.  It looks as though you spent a lot of time researching the facts, something few people have the tenacity to do.  I hope it makes a difference.  And, I agree that someone is reading your letters, so perhaps they are reaching influential ears.
Joanne Corey Added Dec 14, 2017 - 7:31pm
Definitely scary times...
Jeff Michka Added Dec 14, 2017 - 7:33pm
Geo Romey, mr. "do nothing" claims: Mika your dumb enough to believe people like Rachael Maddie.-Who in the f*** is that, do nothing?  Must be someone that actually does something other than beg for sympathy and do absolutely nothing but cry and whine.  I'm amazed wsucram15 just doesn't urinate on you.  You are what is wrong in this country, and make your dreaded "deep state" look like heroes stacked up against your cowardice.
William Stockton Added Dec 14, 2017 - 7:57pm
"Like it or not, Mr. Trump does have the legitimate right to govern as president. And even if he lost the election, he still had the support of many, many Americans to govern. The USA would have had to deal with that social force in one way or another with a Trump loss."
 
Awesome comment Dave.  Many of us didn't like the fact that American voted in a guy with a Muslum name shortly after 9/11.
But we went along for years hoping the racial issues would be resolved once and for all.  That was a pipe-dream.  It got 10x worse.
Shane Laing Added Dec 14, 2017 - 8:40pm
Someone needs to take his phone of him for gods sake.  I think he wants to do a good job but he attacks all even those trying to help him. Maybe he should take yoga classes and relax maybe a bit of meditation. 
David Quinn Added Dec 14, 2017 - 11:11pm
From what I read of the article, it seems to be about trivialities.  Surely Comey and Yates had the opportunity to resign.  But when they could be tolerated no longer they were fired.  There's nothing wrong with that, and Trump referred to Rosenstein's abundant reasons for firing Comey.  Then he was criticized for that.  Ridiculous and trivial.
 
As for Flynn, he admitted to lying to the FBI to cover up a legal action.  Big whoop.  Maybe there's something there, but in our system we usually require more of a basis than just suspicion or being mad you lost, before having such a long investigation.
 
If there were anything on Trump it would have been found by now.  He's clean as a whistle, at least by standards of senior politicians.  That's what makes his enemies so angry and frantic.  Don't get caught up in that frenzy without first taking a step back and looking at things objectively.  It wasn't Trump who told Medvedev that after the coming 2012 election he would have more flexibility, or that signed off on a big uranium resource sale to Russia right after receiving a large donation to her personal foundation.
Bill H. Added Dec 15, 2017 - 12:48am
I believe that what will be Trump's downfall relates to conflicts of interest lying in his finances that steer his priorities and whatever abilities he has to actually make decisions. We all know about his desires to build Trump Towers all over the world, including Russia. One look at Trump's financial portfolio should make anyone question what his priorities may be, let alone that he has refused to divest from his businesses while being in office, which unquestionably violates Constitutional bans on federal officials accepting money from foreign governments. Why do you think he has refused to this day to release his tax returns? Hello??
And there are those out there that still believe he is looking out for the "average guy".
Yeeeeah, Riiieeeeght!!
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 9:13am
Bill Kamps..
First...lets get this strait...if you read my letter to Trump, I tried to support him, in spite of, because of a promise I made to a friend.  I gave him a break...I have never liked him and did not vote for him or Clinton.   I say that with perfect clarity and a clear head.
I have tried to support the President because I am a US CITIZEN, it is my obligation to do so.  I could no longer do that after I think it was 30 days in, if I am not mistaken.
I have had problems with other administrations, but none for these reasons and to this extreme.
Also I am not complaining to the President, it really is my feeling as a citizen to him the leader of the United States.  Which I think its still alright to do here, have an opinion and write an INVITED letter to the President.
 
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 9:23am
 Michael Cikraji;
I will acknowledge you, if you arent demeaning and type an honest reply. Talk.. dont insult.  Too many of the people on here try to attack with petty insults.   I go out and stand in protest lines. Have you ever tried it? People do some ignorant shit to protestors.

 
But there is no reason to argue with me on here, we are on a page. I write for myself.    Which after yesterday..lol, we may not be able to do much longer or it will be more expensive to do so...
I protest for a reason, Im not going to put up with it from people who dont bother or are too lazy..and then want to insult my beliefs.

 
I posted this so people on here knew I wasnt afraid to speak my mind and I dont care who I am speaking to, but I still do it with respect.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 9:51am
Katharine;
I can understand why people question this letter or are so disgusted.  But sometimes you have to fight to get to the people so they hear you.
I know this because I have been heard, much less often than I have been ignored, but I have letters from the White House.  I have been there, it may have helped that my brother also knew various people but I cant honestly say.
 But it took an extreme circumstance I would not wish on anyone to get an ear in a specific administration, but it was heard. Nothing could be done because sometimes its not about the guy in the WH..it takes a tad bit more. 
People forget that about government. Its a bunch of people, thousands of them constantly buzzing around doing things.  But I can tell you also that while I am THE LAST PERSON to have faith in our government..when it does work right, it is phenomenal.
 
There are two things wrong right now..the money buying off the politicians on both sides and the refusal of the people to do anything about it.
 
Its pretty simple.
 
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:05am
David..
 They are trivial to you...but not to me.  But thanks for the kind feedback.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:08am
Shane..
Im not convinced its him anymore, just that a comment is made.  To be "loyal" you have to be in a certain mindset.  Some of them really are.
you can see the difference in his tweets and those of his staff..
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:08am
BillH..you are correct.  Its always been about the finances, always.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:13am
Leroy..
Its funny you say that...I dont care for CNN much, too wishy washy for me.  But in 2013, I wrote them a letter to a question they asked and its how I ended up in Washington, DC at the Capital, speaking to Congress.  True Story. 
George N Romey Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:17am
Trump is not the cause of a dysfunctional government, he is a symptom.  A government that has now for several decades only looked out for those that fund elections.  People are naïve and quite frankly stupid if they think removing Trump will bring back some order of a responsive government, particularly when you consider who the VP is.
 
Back in the 1970s big and medium business made a strategic decision to commander the political system for their own gain.  From the end of WW2 until the late 70s and early 80s business was about business, rarely politics.  Look at the way PACs, lobbyists and special interest groups began to take over the political system by the 1980s.  Its been all downhill for average Americans since then.
 
Of course there was influence before the 1980s, specifically with the MIC.  However, by and large politicians ruled for the bulk of the masses, or the Middle Class which compromised nearly 75% of Americans by the early 1970s.  Now politicians play their little fake games on cable news and then go back to their well appointed DC offices and do the bidding of their money bags.  Or more appropriately do nothing because the system as it stands now is vastly benefiting the .01%.
 
Protesting against Trump is useless.  Under the current system you will probably get someone even worst.  Now talking about bringing the system down (taking money out of politics, term limits, limitations on invading personal freedom, tearing down the MIC) is something different and worth doing.
Bill Kamps Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:28am
wsu, it is certainly your right to complain, or even change your mind.
 
However, if you expected a 70 year old man to change his behavior once he became President, that was hoping for a long shot.  Virtually everything you complained about was on display during the campaign.  This is especially true of his erratic behavior, his lack of discipline, and his rudeness. 
 
Therefore I dont understand why you should feel let down or surprised by his behavior.  He is the person that was elected.
 
Your letter strikes me as, "You are the person we elected, but I was hoping you would change into someone else once you were President".   When has someone ever changed in a positive direction after they won an election?
 
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:36am
SEF....at the time of the election I did say that based on my experience in HR, I would say HRC would do better in the job based on her years of prior public service.   I think I can stand by that. 
I think thats all I have ever said about that topic...I think they were both equally bad candidates and voted for neither of them.  
I had a preference for a candidate and that was just obliterated in July 2016, so after that, the campaign was a joke.  Although its not very funny now.
Thank you for the comment by the way.  I try to speak my mind and occasionally I get responses.  The representatives of my state know me by name when they see me.
 
SEF..you cant get anything done by being silent.
 
George N Romey Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:41am
Bill I agree with you on Trump.  Some Presidents do somewhat change once in office.  JFK came into the office as a military hawk but once he got a really clear picture what the MIC was all about his beliefs changed.  Under tremendous pressure he kept the neocons at bay during the Cuban Missile Crisis.  The CIA and Pentagon never forgave him even though he presided over an avoidance of a nuclear weapons war.
 
Now Trump isn't a JFK.  He's always been a total showboat (and blowhard) which served him well up until now.  But the President has limited powers and is heavily dependent upon a multitude of advisors.  Its just not in his DNA to take advise from others and "work" the DC establishment in the way FDR and Clinton could.
Bill Kamps Added Dec 15, 2017 - 10:49am
George, much of what people complain about Trump is his style.  How he treats other people, other world leaders, his method of informal communication and so on. 
 
All Presidents change politically once elected as they deal with what is possible vs what they wished were possible.  As you say they also have to deal with the realities of Washington and the realities of past policies of the US.
 
However, they dont change style very much.  Trump is not going to become kindly or gentler or start treating everyone with respect. 
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 11:11am
George you are right..and what happens to those who dont work the system in DC?
They get butchered.
George N Romey Added Dec 15, 2017 - 11:21am
Trump by no means is not the first arrogant a hole that has come into office. By many accounts FDR was far worse than Trump.  When FDR was confronted by American Jewish leaders over confirmed reports of the gas chambers he promised swift action in meetings then simply blew off their pleas for action.  Actually he sent the matter to the state department knowing full well how anti-Semite leaders in the State Department were.  Hence the matter was never treated seriously and millions continued to die in a most horrific way.
 
However, FDR knew when to put on the charm whether with other politicians or the American people when he wanted his agenda pushed through.  He appointed his 1940 GOP opponent Wendell Willkie to help with the war effort and even discussed forming a new political party together after the war (Willkie died in 1944).  Remember many Americans were still anti war even after Pearl Harbor and suddenly they were being forced rationalizing and sending their young sons and husbands off to war.  FDR needed to desperately "sell" the war.  The WH actually sent Allistar Cooke on a driving tour of the country in 1942 to "sell" the war to ordinary Americans (which he detailed later in his book).
 
Clinton found ways to put on the charm too either with Gingrich and company or also with the American people.  But Clinton was just as big as an a hole as Trump.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 11:32am
George..we arent meant to either know what they do or make those decisions. 
I dont know about everyone else but I have always given a President some leeway on being an ass, (even Trump) because they have to deal with things we dont and then have to push us into believing in their strategy.
But a couple of things with that..the President has to be as honest as possible with the people, letting them know what is happening -good or bad.
Then they have to protect the nation with the nations interests first...somehow, this is where they fall flat.  They make it about them somehow.   
Eventually people stop believing in anyone at all, which is where we are.
George N Romey Added Dec 15, 2017 - 12:12pm
Jeanne I agree people have lost faith in institutions from the companies they work to their leaders. They assume and correctly so that leaders no longer lead.
 
If history is a guide this ends badly. For now too many Americans including some here on WB believe a revolution in the US will never happen because we “are” the US. 
Carole McKee Added Dec 15, 2017 - 2:06pm
William Stockton: Is there some reason why you deem in necessary to be so insulting and rude to someone who voices an opinion?
Jeff Michka Added Dec 15, 2017 - 3:41pm
wsucram15 utters the Magic Words: George you are right..and what happens to those who dont work the system in DC?
They get butchered-And those that do work, comment are often overlooked.  I was sorry you pulled your piece on NN, wsucram15, but seeing the WB rightist swarm in and talk about NN like they actually knew something was a joke. And, of course, speaking of NN, YOU WERE AWARE OF THIS STUFF:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/millions-of-people-post-comments-on-federal-regulations-many-are-fake-1513099188-
Jeff Michka Added Dec 15, 2017 - 3:42pm
Amazing, but I suppose the phony comments thing will be another excuse for ol Geo R to do nothing...nothing can be done according to ol Geo...
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 7:38pm
Bill..I have never changed my mind.  I grew up around NYC...and hearing about Trump through my teen years and for years thereafter. I have friends in NY and all of them hate that guy. There is a reason he lost NY.
I never expected him to change his behavior...I WAS DOING SOMETHING SOMEONE ASKED ME TO DO.. by giving him a break.
 
Also my brother is military so I go to the inaugurations every 4 years, he goes to Military Ball and I go to parties or hang out with friends.
 
Where did you get the idea I expected him to change anything at 71?
He was a goof when I was a kid and his family bailed him out more times than I can count. 
You dont read my stuff much.. but its ok.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 7:51pm
You know JeffM..I wasnt aware of fake anything so im not sure what you are talking about.  However, the NY States Attorney is saying that those millions of comments went against net neutrality.  This will be a long court battle. Also Congress could have stopped this and believe me, I tried on this.
 
But you see what happens in these matters is they have two or three huge issues going on at one time (and there are many right now in DC) and it spreads the crowds thin.   Not enough people care to reply.   I had one friend (1) who called and wrote to FCC and Congress on this issue, THIS TIME OUT.  People really dont believe this stuff is happening, but it is.  It was a real battle this week.
 
Everyone this week (the majority) fought against the tax bill for multiple reasons but mostly the pathway to eventual cutting of programs for elderly and disabled.  Healthcare, etc..
Its already taking affect here...and they havent even voted on it yet.
 
People are protesting multiple issues here in DC.  Its going to get worse before it gets better...this time out though, I AM NOT trying to tell people it will be alright.  Because it wont.
wsucram15 Added Dec 15, 2017 - 8:06pm
Carole;
Thank you..but William is like Mike Haluska.  I have never been rude to either of them and yet they both insult and try to put me down.
Its kind of funny, I had a really hard time with the 2016 election and really didnt like Clinton so for a minute considered Trump and on a feed of Mike Haluskas they challeged me into looking into the candidates.  I had to go way back  but even online found out tons about Trump (legal stuff and investigative things -not news).  Now I found some things on Clinton but its all political.  Which most people do not understand is kinda like Hollywood, its fake.  Its not supposed to be but it is..what looks like one thing is something completely different and so on, usually someone advancing another objective to be played out for the cameras later.
 
Anyway..I ended up voting independent AND doing much more research on them both by traveling. Its been a interesting year.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 15, 2017 - 9:00pm
You know JeffM..I wasnt aware of fake anything so im not sure what you are talking about.-That link to the article in WSJ pretty much tells all.  And it's not just NN affected by the phony comments and bot posts.  This also went on with the tax brouhaha, too. AND you also note: However, the NY States Attorney is saying that those millions of comments went against net neutrality.  This will be a long court battle. Also Congress could have stopped this and believe me, I tried on this.-I believe you did try.  Sorry you didn't leave the NN article posted on WB up, but understand why you may have taken it down.  There are times we don't need to read the same old crap from the same old tired rightists here.  We know what little they think.  I guess there are 18 states currently joining WA state in the suit against the FCC.  i spit on Ajit Pai's Trumpist grave.
Flying Junior Added Dec 16, 2017 - 3:28am
Interesting letter, wsucram.  I find it a little bit difficult to believe that you actually supported Trump in D.C., but I will take your word for it.  Of course, many of us hoped that he would do an abrupt about face upon taking office.  What made that impossible for me to believe in was clearly his behavior at campaign rallies where he encouraged violence against protestors, in particular adherents to the Black Lives Matter movement.  That's about when the comparisons to Mussolini started hitting.  He had also made it quite clear that he had no sympathy whatsoever for any violence suffered by African-Americans at the hands of various police departments over let us say the last twenty years.
 
One of your most powerful arguments has to do with his attitudes towards women.
 
Our women are our greatest treasure.
 
What could possibly motivate hard-core righties to support such a blatant misogynist?  They just turn a blind eye like nothing ever happened or was said.
 
Yet your letter rather eloquently delineates and defines better than 10% of his many and varied crimes, hypocrisies and inconsistencies against the American populace which is responsible for putting him in office.
 
Well-done.  That represents a fair body of work.
 
I mostly just hate Trump because he is really icky.  He makes my skin crawl.  When I hear his voice I want to vomit.  He makes Richard Nixon look as cool as James Dean by comparison.
wsucram15 Added Dec 16, 2017 - 8:47am
Flying Junior..
Why would you find it difficult?  I made a promise to someone and kept that promise, which I really felt I upheld.  Also I go to all the inaugurations, I live pretty close and my brother and his wife attend them.
I was against Trump and someone asked me to give him a chance, so I did, I really did try.   But he has always treated regular working people badly. I mean there are actual records of it in the courts and he specifically hates immigrants. Although most of his facilities here employ them (also documented in labor suits).
Even businesses he deals with are shorted after specialized work done for him. To the point, very very few vendors will even deal with him in NYC.  His old vendors were all mafia and he no longer deals with them..so he had to go with regular vendors who charge quite a bit and dont cut corners.
 
He has done things like promise Frescas (old art on one of his tear downs) to the Metropolitan Museum of Art and due to the time and cost, (which they offered to pay BTW), he had his crew rip out and destroy the art in front of them.  True Story.  He is just an angry, hateful, spiteful man that lived in a gold tower that many immigrants built. He came out to make appearances with the wealthy in society and promote his brand, which he is good at.  He was good at conning people which he has done and it will cost this country.   I have said all along, he is a marketing genius.
 
His attitude towards women is very strange. Its one that is definitely dominant as he likes women that he has some control over.  Until he does not have control, like Ivana.  I remember that mess and the media surrounding it. He did some messed up things to her and then his father made it all go away with money.   Ivana at that time embarrassed Trump by stating his actual worth was not in the Billions, but in real dollars was only around 600 million and she got quite a chunk of that (cash alone -25 million plus annual housing allowance of 4m and alimony- also 300K a year in child support, medical and all schooling.  He was dropped from Forbes because of that and I believe to get her money she had to sign a NDA.  He later recouped his Forbes standing based on an "offer" for a Trump property at 120m.  IDK..
But he was estimated to only be worth like 200 million in 2005. Something he actually sued over and lost.  You cant estimate your value based on our name.  Your value is real assets, he didnt have much after two high profile divorces (Marla Maples didnt get much cash-just care for Tiffany).   But she was more independent and fought him a lot on finances.  It was his ongoing debt and expenses that made him not very profitable.
As far as Melania..he met her while still married to Ivana...but began to socialize with her as his marriage to MArla Maples fell apart.  Makes you wonder?  He was with a woman wen he met her and still married at the time.  That was 1998 and she became a citizen in 2006 after their son was born.  I would say since is somewhat independent and also very aloof.   Its how he is perceived and I am sure she is aware of that.
wsucram15 Added Dec 16, 2017 - 8:50am
I liked your use of the word.."icky"..I got a chuckle out of that.
 
wsucram15 Added Dec 16, 2017 - 9:33am
Jeff..on Net Neutrality, this is a reality that people have blown off or just thought was a "silly leftist thing" for a while now.  
Everything is set up for profits and big ones now, nothing more.
The rich will get richer and the poor, poorer.  The middle class will become the poor.. Small business wont be able to compete online the way they do now with larger companies. 
This only happened one other time in history that I know of, but we had more control over governance then and we were not reliant on the net.  Im not sure we can come back from this one.
 
Bill H. Added Dec 16, 2017 - 12:50pm
The loss of net neutrality will not only cost the consumer more money, but will result in the loss of even more of the few privacies that we have left.
It will essentially hinder freedom of the press, future election results, freedom of choice, and the ability for one to operate a profitable internet-based business.
The only winners will be the big boys with the most money. They will instantly have the advantage to run-over and eliminate any competition. Big Data will constantly be finding new ways to empty our pocketbooks, control what we see, and hand over our internet to those with the bucks.
The loss of a free internet is slap in the face to every citizen here in the US. If we sit back and allow this to happen, then we deserve every negative it will bring, because there is NOTHING at all positive about it.
Carole McKee Added Dec 16, 2017 - 2:10pm
wsucram15: Either Bill and Mike don't understand that this is for discussion and is not an insult competition; or they just don't know how to express an intelligent argument. So they use insults and name calling to try to make a point. Kinda like the buffoon in the White House. 
 
I was not happy with the choices for President in 2016 either. I didn't want to vote independent because that was like throwing a vote away. All I was sure of was that Trump was, and is, a menace to society. I met Mr. Trump years ago, when he was still married to his first wife. I believed way back then that he had a screw loose.
Bill H. Added Dec 16, 2017 - 3:33pm
Carole - Which Bill are you referring to?
Jeff Michka Added Dec 16, 2017 - 7:03pm
Bill H sez: [Loss of NN] It will essentially hinder freedom of the press, future election results, freedom of choice, and the ability for one to operate a profitable internet-based business.-YEAH, BUT LOOK AT IT LIKE A WB RIGHTIST OR NAZI-PAY MORE, YOU'LL GET BETTER ACCESS, THAT'S America to them.  And with Johnson Amendment gone, we'll have a net drought right when Citizens United 2.0 kicks in.  Imagine a whole Internet of Dons, RJCs and Tamara Wilbwhites all banging on their bibles and demanding you submit...
opher goodwin Added Dec 16, 2017 - 7:25pm
Jeff - You'll get to pay more seems to be the reality. It is a frightening prospect.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 16, 2017 - 7:36pm
FJr sez: That's about when the comparisons to Mussolini started hitting.  He had also made it quite clear that he had no sympathy whatsoever for any violence suffered by African-Americans-Ah, the dawning day of the Orange Il Duce come now to earth.  And don't you believe it's all "those people's" fault they get killed and jailed over and over? 
Bill H. Added Dec 16, 2017 - 9:35pm
Jeff - Not sure why that group is comfortable paying more and getting less.
Could it be because the Orange Buffoon told them it was part of  "Making America Great Again and creating more Jobs, Jobs, Jobs"?
Or maybe because if was "Going to be so good that it would make their head spin".
Carole McKee Added Dec 17, 2017 - 12:58pm
Bill H: I was referring to Bill Stockton. In one of my posts, I asked him if there was a reason he deemed it necessary to insult someone for voicing an opinion. And yes, you are correct about those who are comfortable to pay more and get less. Le Moron L'Orange told them it was a good thing, and just like they believed he would "make America great again," they just believe whatever he does is good.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 17, 2017 - 1:15pm
Billy the Nazi, up to his old tricks sez: Jeanne's daughter did a good job with this one. I nearly spewed coffee.-Sorry you didn't choke on the spew. I'm sure wsucram15 is just as disappointed with that as I am.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 17, 2017 - 1:18pm
Carole M sez: I met Mr. Trump years ago -I'm sorry.  Did you heal?  It use to be meeting a president was some form of honor, now it's something to give a person PTSD...
Jeff Michka Added Dec 17, 2017 - 1:21pm
wsucram15 sez: Jeff..on Net Neutrality, this is a reality that people have blown off or just thought was a "silly leftist thing" for a while now.-So it seems.  I put a call in to the governor's office here. Seems Inslee has a plan he'll reveal on Monday. IT AIN'T QUITE OVER YET. 
Carole McKee Added Dec 17, 2017 - 1:27pm
Jeff M: LOL! I didn't know who he was. To me, he was just some obnoxious idiot who treated his wife badly. My husband told me he was just some rich, spoiled asshole who didn't know how to act. (And he Still Doesn't!)
William Stockton Added Dec 17, 2017 - 1:44pm
Carole,  ". . . they just don't know how to express an intelligent argument. So they use insults and name calling to try to make a point. Kinda like the buffoon in the White House."
 
Can you say this with a straight face?  Really?  Should I just call people a "buffoon" as you do when I don't agree with their political stripes?
William Stockton Added Dec 17, 2017 - 2:07pm
"I have never been rude to either of them and yet they both insult and try to put me down."
 
Well, that does it for me.  No Christmas card for you Jeanne.  You have called an ass recently.  I have called you no such words.  Not even close.
 
I think you have lost your friggin mind.  It is called Trump Derangement Syndrom.  I am enjoying watching people completely melt down.  I never saw this with Obama in the 8 years of his terrible presidency. 
The control/power of the left has been completely eroded in less than a year.  You people have nothing left on the left beside your tears and anger.   The left has turned into a cult. 
 
It is joyous ritual, near daily, for us to watch you people in free-fall whining hysterically.  It is fantastic!
When in reality, the left has left the left.  The left went off the political deep end and left rational liberals abandoned to their rational positions.  These people are either now moving to the right or followed their part off the cliff.
 
It's even more amazing how the left cant see the moral awakening happening because of the Trump vote.  The "righty" people who wanted to shake shit up.   If Hillary was elected, none of this #metoo would have happened.  You can thank us later.  But I will say now, "YOU'RE WELCOME!"
 
Damn right, we elected a bully to take down the institutions that have trampled people's rights for decades.  Certainly women and blacks had been the "recipients" of this corruption both in abuse and use.  Now that these lefty strongholds are failing, people are speaking out of the corruption and abuse.  Yes, there are many "rightys", who we also call the RINOs, who abandoned morality and jumped into the lefty power game.
 
This new morality play is awesome.  I can't wait for the entire immoral, corrupt system to crash.  We the people will be there to pick up the pieces.
 
Carole McKee Added Dec 17, 2017 - 2:39pm
Bill Stockton: You wrote this: What two brain cells convinced you that he would read your letter in contrast to your outlandish assessments of him? I thought it was uncalled for. 
 
And this: Oohh.  The complete takeover of our government (all branches) by angry women in pussy hats.  I can't wait to see the trailer!  It would be even better if they wore bikinis and spoke Russian
 
I don't anyone but Donald Trump a buffoon, and I call him worse than that. And in either case, it has nothing to do with an opinion he expressed, but everything to do with his actions. 
 
When someone states an opinion, they shouldn't have to be subjected to disrespect. It's okay to disagree in an intelligent adult manner.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 17, 2017 - 3:54pm
Carole M sez: To me, he was just some obnoxious idiot who treated his wife badly.-AND Trump only treats Melanoma badly when she doesn't piss him off. 
William Stockton Added Dec 17, 2017 - 4:52pm
Carol, "It's okay to disagree in an intelligent adult manner."
 
When will you start doing this?
Carole McKee Added Dec 17, 2017 - 7:36pm
See? What names have I called you? What type of sarcasm have I used? None. I carefully choose my words so as not to insult anyone. Look. I called you out for unnecessarily insulting someone. Now if you can't take someone telling when you're out of line, you have a problem. Again, I point out: What two brain cells convinced you that he would read your letter in contrast to your outlandish assessments of him? I thought it was uncalled for. 
Oohh.  The complete takeover of our government (all branches) by angry women in pussy hats.  I can't wait to see the trailer!  It would be even better if they wore bikinis and spoke Russian. And this. Is this a slam on the author of this article? Or all women in general?
 
You see, you do exactly what Donald Trump does. When anyone calls him out on anything, he immediately gets defensive and starts insulting and criticizing other people. That is NOT how you are supposed to handle a situation. 
 
 
 
William Stockton Added Dec 17, 2017 - 8:12pm
LOL Carole.  Thanks for the lesson in appropriate arguing.  
"My husband told me he was just some rich, spoiled asshole who didn't know how to act."  
"You see, you do exactly what Donald Trump does. "
" I carefully choose my words so as not to insult anyone. "
 
Are you insane?
wsucram15 Added Dec 17, 2017 - 9:31pm
Carole..ignore its the way he is..he feels empowered, either that or he talks like this online to women or ppl he doesnt like because he looks at some people as less than him. 
Either way, you are smarter than he is, you have to walk away from his insolence.   His turn will come, it always happens that way.
William Stockton Added Dec 17, 2017 - 10:25pm
One thing I have learned, Jeanne, is that people who use racism and sexism to justify their politics are the most corrupt and evil people in our nation.
 
Carole is just misguided and needs her husband to tell her what to think.
As for you, I think you are a sexist, man-hater.  Sorry you have had terrible experiences with men.  I cant change that by being nice to you and placating your anger. 
That said, it surprises me you still hate Trump when he is the very reason #metoo is a thing today.
These institutions that shielded abusive and manipulative people are dying.  DNC, MSM, Hollyweird . . . all dying, all lefty institutions.  All this happening only because we the people elected a disrupter . . . someone who speaks the truth regardless of how it makes people feel.
Bill H. Added Dec 18, 2017 - 1:22am
 
Stockton - Sorry, but when I witnessed Trump addressing a large group of impressionable Boy Scouts at the National Boy Scout Jamboree in the manner that he did, I could find no other word to describe him other than a TOTAL BUFFOON. Both of my parents were active in Scouting. I was not only a Scout, but also assisted a local troop on hiking and camping outings. When I watched that address, I lost any bit of hope for this man as a leader, along with any level of respect for him as a person. 
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 9:14am
William...you are full of shit. No person needs another person to tell them how to think.  Even you who I consider to be intelligent but somewhat misguided.
BIllH is right with his comments above, among the many other things Trump has done the boy scout fiasco may have been one of the worst.  he wasnt shaking things up..he was screwing with other peoples children.  Terrible leader.
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 9:24am
Also William..in some instances this may be the case.  I have also seen this and cannot claim that all people are perfect 100% of the time.
 
But Ive seen the other side of abuse, rape, workplace harassment by both men AND women, etc..and even police violence and in most instances, unfortunately the victims are telling the truth.   Now I have seen some horrific things that men have done to women, including co-workers, subordinates, their wives, GFs, step daughters, their own daughters... Dont ever tell me that sexism is a made up thing.
 
Those women most of them dont even hate men, they just dont trust them after time. I dont know that any NORMAL human being could blame the victim.  But if you get off on that..its on you.
 
I dont believe in "racism".. thats a word for something that doesnt exist.  I believe in hate, I think people hate that with which they do not understand, are not a part of OR think they are better than.  
You seem to hate..and that sir is your problem and the problem of anyone like you.  It will come back at you no matter what you believe in..
Carole McKee Added Dec 18, 2017 - 9:42am
Bill Stockton: There you go again. In the first place, my husband passed away many, many years ago, so I'm on my own. I raised two kids by myself, and they turned out pretty great. (Although my son passed away 15 years ago due to a rare illness.) I think on my own, and nobody tells me how, or what to think. 
 
Now...I have not said anything that would make you think I am misguided. I responded to your unnecessary rudeness. So if being misguided means I don't think people should treat other people rudely or insultingly, then I guess you're right. But I know people are not supposed to treat other people badly, and I wouldn't want to think any other way. 
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 10:12am
Carole..Please ignore him.  He is just trying to upset you.
I am sorry about your husband and son.  I am particularly proud you have been able to take care of things on your own and become your own person.  It takes a strong person to do these things and I admire that.
Thank you for trying to reason with William but he is a mean guy who likes to pick on women online. I just figure he is henpecked at home.
William Stockton Added Dec 18, 2017 - 10:43am
Bill H,  I was not only a Scout, but also assisted a local troop on hiking and camping outings. When I watched that address, I lost any bit of hope for this man as a leader, along with any level of respect for him as a person. 
 
It is amazing that people would be offended by a president of the US speaking to the Boy Scouts.  It shows how pious, devious, self-righteous, haughty, arrogant, and insane the left has become.
The Boy Scouts are (or was) a conservative group.  Imagine that:  a conservative president speaking to a conservative group.
 
We on the right have had to watch and experience our kids be subjected to absolute lefty trash and immoral corruption in the media and at school.  The cult-left preys on kids because they are easily manipulated.  Public schools are their choice hunting grounds. 
You cannot, or will not see it from both sides because you are part of the cult-left ideology.  Those kids have already experienced the cult left in their schools and scared to death of the anti-white racism, anti-American bullshit, anti-male, anti-law, destruction of their nation.  Did you hear those kids cheering for Trump?  Oh, ya.  There are damn good reasons those kids were cheering.  Nobody made them cheer that loudly.  They get it.  You don't.
 
When that tax bill passes, you will see parents escaping these cult-left training grounds in droves.  If you don't understand why this will happen, I suggest you start looking at the huge breaks for parents in education that are pending.  Parents will have new choices.  These cult-left "educational" institutions will not be their first choice.
William Stockton Added Dec 18, 2017 - 10:44am
Jeanne, Thank you for trying to reason with William but he is a mean guy who likes to pick on women online. I just figure he is henpecked at home.
 
LOL
William Stockton Added Dec 18, 2017 - 11:06am
Jeanne,  I'm just wondering when Carole, the "feelings police", will call you out?
". . . if being misguided means I don't think people should treat other people rudely or insultingly, then I guess you're right." -- Carole
 
The cult-left has no logic, morals, or sense.  Complete hypocritical nonsense.  OMG, you people should keep on responding to me, please.  Your words expose how the cult-left has destroyed any good sense when it feeds on its own self-righteousness.
Bill H. Added Dec 18, 2017 - 11:27am
 
Stockton - Your Right/Left mentality is exactly an example of the big problem here in our country.
I'll gamble that you are one of those who will only associate with people who follow your political views.
I have a neighbor just like you. He immediately labeled me as a "Lefty" simply because I didn't vote for Trump. He has dissected our entire neighborhood based on politics and won't even say hello to anyone that he has labeled as a "Lefty" as you call them.
Pathetic!
William Stockton Added Dec 18, 2017 - 11:40am
I'll gamble that you are one of those who will only associate with people who follow your political views.
 
No Bill.  Actually, I have very few associates in my political views.  I have also been strongly critical of the "right" in using religion in politics.  I think Roy Moore was the most ridiculous candidate the right generated in a long time.  He is as cult-driven as the left.  He would have imposed his moral "virtue" as any leftist, cult-religious nutjob we see today.  Trump saw this in the beginning as well when he advocated the more moderate Republican, Luther Strange.
 
I don't mind being a lone voice.  It has its value.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 18, 2017 - 12:27pm
Willy Stockpot, ace WB rightist sez: Those kids have already experienced the cult left in their schools and scared to death of the anti-white racism, anti-American bullshit, anti-male, anti-law, destruction of their nation.-All you got is attempts at left bashing. And you get your wish: Trumpists now can defend their kids bullying other kids based on race, since it's "a popular political opinion." AND Bill H NOTES: He has dissected our entire neighborhood based on politics and won't even say hello to anyone that he has labeled as a "Lefty" as you call them. Pathetic!-Yup, sounds like the Trumpist neighbor here. He's done exactly the same thing here and more.  His slimy little son has been coming out at night and cat-calling the folks staying here, calling them scum and "nigger lovers" under cover of darkness, of course.  (one "guest" is black. Horrors!! homeless and a hated minority.)
Bill H. Added Dec 18, 2017 - 12:50pm
 
Exactly, Jeff! Just a few weeks back, he actually mentioned to me "Hey! didja know that sum coloreds moved in a couple streets over?"
This is the same guy that dumps his used oil down the storm drain after dark and is the main source of dandelion propagation for the entire neighborhood!
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 2:39pm
Carole- fret not-
Best damn thing I read all year...this will ppl like William to  underestimate women.
Its not done yet..
http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2017-silence-breakers/
The person of the year-the silence breakers. 
You know..from January and the womens march on down....Have a good day.
                                 -------------------------
No I dont socialize with people that just think like I do..most of my friends are Republican and I think on some things they are more liberal than I.  Im just not afraid of black people, they dont bite. 
 
Jeff and BillH...read that article in Time, its great..BillH show it to your wife.   After all the fighting and work I have done, seeing these women step forward and some things I have done mentioned in TIME IS SO COOL!!
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 2:43pm
Look at the video...if you dont want to read it, it shows a time line.
Carole McKee Added Dec 18, 2017 - 2:44pm
Bill Stockton: Politics, left or right, have nothing to do with treating people with dignity and kindness. It's called being a human.
 
It's laughable that you think I would have to listen to what my husband tells me to think. How could a man with only one year of college tell a woman with four degrees how to think?
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 3:09pm
he only has one year of college..really? Wow...no wonder he follows Trump. Jeeze, I guess we both take him down with education and intellect.  But like I said, let him laugh.
Carole, seriously..look at the Time magazine person of the year.  I took part in that, but its mostly about the women who brought powerful men down.  Starting with the womens march and ALL women who maintained throughout the year.  
 
Carole McKee Added Dec 18, 2017 - 3:16pm
NO! LOL! I was referring to my husband. Remember BS said  my something about my thinking what my husband want me to? Or something like that.
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 3:42pm
Well then maybe I do have you confused with someone else. I apologize.  I try to hear everyone out. There are exceptions to that and there are always reasons.
But thanks...and get back out there, right now, 80 year old men and women are out there with handicapped people fighting for what they believe in.  It doesnt matter how you feel.
Although it is kinda cold somedays now. 
 
Merry Christmas everyone..
 
Carole McKee Added Dec 18, 2017 - 3:44pm
If they try to dump Mueller, I'll be out there. We are already making our plans. 
Carole McKee Added Dec 18, 2017 - 3:45pm
Merry Christmas!
Thomas Sutrina Added Dec 18, 2017 - 4:34pm
Trump is not going to fire Mueller.  He is doing more damage to the Democrats by being the focal point of the investigations into corruptions.  His team is so tainted by partisanship, They are being tagged as political hacks.  Mueller's final report will not be read and put down to catch poop from birds and dogs.  The Donald Trump-Russia dossier will be attached to the FISA wiretapping, Flinn, and others.  The FISA will be discredited and the information from it thrown out. 
 
Keep Mueller in place so he will be the special investigator when he is brought to testify in front of Congress about Uranium One.  Even New Week pointed to him. http://www.newsweek.com/how-robert-mueller-connected-probe-hillary-clintons-uranium-one-deal-688548
wsucram15 Added Dec 18, 2017 - 4:49pm
We are counting on it...but either way a huge march is planned in every city in US.  join us.  Womans March!!!
 
Thomas..no one cares, well the majority doesnt.  How about that?
Bill H. Added Dec 18, 2017 - 7:19pm
Jeanne - Thanks for the link to the article. Reading it reminds me of an old narcissist boss that I had years back who gave me the best lesson ever about how to predict Trump's thoughts (?) and reactions. On one occasion, he sexually harassed one of our engineer's wife at a party and got a knee in the face from her husband. A few years later, he got the Division Manager's wife loaded on pain killers while she was in the hospital and tried to rape her in her hospital room. He got caught by another visitor from the office, and was immediately fired. During his next job at another company, he tried making a move on one of the front office staff ladies and was shot by her husband. He didn't die from the gunshot wound, but dropped dead from a heart attack about 6 months later.
And in closing, I don't think even Trump is stupid enough to fire Mueller. The backlash from all sides would be more than him and his administration could handle. 
Jeff Michka Added Dec 18, 2017 - 9:21pm
wsucram15 sez: After all the fighting and work I have done, seeing these women step forward and some things I have done mentioned in TIME IS SO COOL!!-A "congrats" is in some order.  Time is a pretty fair publication, and glad they ran it.  Good article. It won't slow down women haters like Stockpot or HaHaHaluska, but that shouldn't surprise anyone.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 18, 2017 - 9:24pm
The Sutrino squeaks: His team is so tainted by partisanship, They are being tagged as political hacks.-Yeah!!! That must be it, since it's all over Brietbart and Fox.  You mindless rightist...no one cares, well the majority doesnt.  How about that?  
William Stockton Added Dec 18, 2017 - 11:39pm
Ya, ok Jeanne.  Merry Christmas from us in the Trump camp.
 
I greet you that way because indeed, for now, I am very pleased with the #metoo movement.
Someday, you will look back and see what enabled women to feel free to speak out recently.  Ah . . .  could it be that liberty is rising?  The oppressive culture of PC politics had throttled the victim's voice?
 
I find it glorious that women are doing this.  Trump felt free to speak his mind and showed us the way.  Women are now doing this.  Fantastic!  It is as if people are finally waking the hell up.
opher goodwin Added Dec 19, 2017 - 7:48am
William there is no excuse for the sexist misogyny you display. It is rude, abusive and demeaning! You should apologise to Carole and Jeanne!
wsucram15 Added Dec 19, 2017 - 9:01am
William.. I remember you picking on the womans march and actually you still do.  GO rejoice with your white male privilege, while you still have some.
The women that have made this possible cannot stand Trump and actually the men I have met are activists against his agenda as well.  
Most of the population in the US doesnt like something he has done. Maybe not everything..but enough of what he has done to dislike him.
 
Opher ignore him..he is a lightweight any apology from him would be false and I would rather he not make the effort. I know where he stands.
He likes to agitate and it only works on people who arent used to assholes, I was married to asshole #2, who was the successor of my father(asshole #1) ,the most abusive man I have ever seen in my life.  Dont forget the monsignor of my church, or the rapist.    William is silly by comparison and no match for me, who survived them and even a couple of asshole bosses along the way.   Silly Willie!
William Stockton Added Dec 19, 2017 - 10:25am
Ok Jeanne.  lol.  At least we know now where everyone stands. 
 
In spite of your nasty comments, I still think the #metoo movement is much better than women being shut up for decades in abusive, cult-left institutions which have scared people into silence.  That is all changing.
As for the pussy hats . . . ya, I still think that is ridiculously funny and stupid.  It is men-hating women, as yourself, that turn this movement into something that discredits itself.
Cheers!
Jeff Michka Added Dec 19, 2017 - 2:49pm
Willy Stockpot raves: than women being shut up for decades in abusive, cult-left institutions which have scared people into silence. -Back to "if it's call left, it's a bad thing." But as always, just a proffered Willy Stockpot statement with no reference to facts or reality.  Nothing to see here folks...No facts, just rightist rhetoric from Willy.
Carole McKee Added Dec 19, 2017 - 3:56pm
BS can't seriously believe his theory that the #MeToo movement is because Trump "SHOWED US THE WAY." I think it had more to do with women coming forward and speaking out about Trump's sexual advances, and then becoming the president, in spite of them. Women are just sick of men getting away with such behavior, and Trump winning the election was the last straw.
Now I'm not men-bashing. there are a lot of good men who are kind, considerate and respectful. But there are just as many who are using their power, be it strength or position, to intimidate, bully, and assault women. And women have every right to be sick of it.
Bill H. Added Dec 19, 2017 - 11:01pm
 
My wife worked for the airlines for many years in both office and flight attendant positions. She happens to be quite attractive and has told me many stories about how she had been treated on the job, I share the ladies concerns about the issue, and have had to physically deal with a few punk-ass stalkers over the years that required a fist or two to send them on their merry way. I could not believe what some men think was within the boundary of being acceptable.
opher goodwin Added Dec 20, 2017 - 5:41am
Carole/Jeanne - some men seem to think with their gonads. It makes me ashamed to be associated by gender.
The claim that a sexist, misogynist such as Trump is in any way responsible for this upsurge in women speaking out against abuse is risible. As Carole pointed out it is probably a reaction to him and the rest of his abusive team.
He epitomises the most abusive type of male.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 20, 2017 - 11:05am
opher sez: William there is no excuse for the sexist misogyny you display.-Willy has a "reason," however.  His ex looks like Hillary and gets alimony he doesn't want to pay, yet he wants women in "their place." with his boot on their necks.  Willy has made women hating a sport on WB.
wsucram15 Added Dec 20, 2017 - 12:57pm
Heres the thing..I dont hate men.  Not even you, I just dont respect you because you have shown me VERY little respect in the 3 years you have been on this page.  I have seen you do this to other women and  people that have a difference of opinion from you, you are EXTREMELY condescending and/or sarcastic in your commenting towards others. So its not just me.
How is that hateful? 
As far as Trump..I promise as far as his Presidency, I have done more than you or many of the "trumpites" have in support of OUR President to date, sometimes by accident.  
-->I will further add that I dont HATE anyone, not even the people that did hurt me..do you know why?  Because anger and resentment hurt you inside..it does NOTHING to the people that you don't like or feel resentment towards. 
Ive written about it often, you would know that if you ever read a word I have written and didnt pick out pieces to judge me or anyone else you choose.   I am a nice person, but because of my past, I just dont take any crap from abusive men...
Im sorry William you seem to me, to be abusive. But I still dont hate you. I forgive you because I know you are weak.
wsucram15 Added Dec 20, 2017 - 1:26pm
BillH, Opher and Jeff..I know, I have dealt with abusers for years in my own life  and in helping others. As you may know, I have also dealt with survivors of abuse and women in safe houses for multiple reasons over the years, in peer to peer programs. 
 
On the job, I had encountered situations with men myself and being in H/R with others who felt sexually harassed and strangely enough it does happen to men.  I think that was the worst case I ever saw, although they all are not just sexual but emotional because you fear for your job.  That guy was a single father with custody of his daughter and the woman boss who was very aggressive.   So it happens.
I have seen people at their worst...and sometimes people surprise me and they are really genuinely good.  Its why I like people, they are not bad, sometimes really screwed up, but its RARE to find one genuinely bad.  Men or women.
wsucram15 Added Dec 20, 2017 - 1:30pm
Jeff is that true? Well that answers the question as to why he is so hateful..
 
William Stockton Added Dec 20, 2017 - 9:41pm
His ex looks like Hillary and gets alimony he doesn't want to pay, yet he wants women in "their place." with his boot on their necks.  Willy has made women hating a sport on WB.
 
Autumn, this is closely approaching libel.  In my case and in any court of law it would be.  Jeff Michka is probably too stupid to realize that saying specific things about someone which are false can be defended in court.  His claims of false facts with the intent to cause damage is prosecutable.
Prof Claudewell Thomas Added Dec 21, 2017 - 12:38am
Enter your comment here...Thanks wsucram.Trump was an inevitability with country first movements springing up all over the world.do notice the behavioral similarities between our great leader and his arch enemy the N.Korean ( rocket man) beloved leader.The culture crisis and financial crisis that is the result of an inequitable tax code( now worse) AI etc.etc. would have been delayed under a Hillary presidency,under our beloved trumpeter is upon us.Unfortunately there is a constitutiinal
Prof Claudewell Thomas Added Dec 21, 2017 - 12:49am
Enter your comment here...but under our beloved great leader(trumpeter) is already upon us.Unfortunately there is a constitutional crisis in the offing as the Imperial Presidency rattles on.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 21, 2017 - 6:04pm
Willy Stockpot sez:  His claims of false facts with the intent to cause damage is prosecutable.-Trying to jump on a bandwagon?  Don't fall.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 28, 2017 - 6:09pm
wsucram15 sez: Jeff is that true? Well that answers the question as to why he is so hateful..Only real explanation for as much hating women stuff he's been party to.  I guess suggesting his ex looks like Hillary is "damaging."  I really don't care.
 

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