The Cannabis Conspiracy; a few bullet points

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This is one of the biggest injustices thrust upon society, within the last one hundred years.

 You would think in our modern world that logic would prevail, and the old illogical emotions around this issue would subside.  It appeared that the USA was on the right path, although moving slowly towards doing the right thing. (perhaps waiting for some more of the old guard to die off)

  • The law as it stands today, was put in place by a guy who was trying to keep his job after prohibition ended. (Harry Anslinger)
  • The major pharma, alcohol, tobacco, and even textile industries(Hemp) jumped on the ‘reefer madness’ propaganda campaign.
  • Statements were made in newspapers that if white woman smoked this stuff, they could run off with black men. (and then jump off the balcony because they think they can fly)
  • Eventually all the States agreed with him, and then most of the world’s countries jumped on board. (after many years of hard lobbying)
  • Every major study done since has confirmed it is less harmful than legal drugs, yet it still remains a Class 1 restricted drug.

The old guard just cannot admit they were wrong all along. So, to this day they defend their stupidity by saying things like; no good people smoke pot. So, I guess that means a significant % of the population are bad people?

The lobbying efforts of the major companies who would be affected, must still play a huge role. But to leave it as a Class 1 restricted drug, given the evidence we have, just seems WRONG!  And on top of that, hemp which is NOT psychoactive, falls under the same Draconian laws.

 Can anyone help me understand why?

Comments

Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 9:34am
While the economic benefits of keeping cannabis and hemp under wraps for these industries is blatantly obvious, imo it is still an emotional position, as those who were so vehement about this, just cannot admit they were wrong. And of course the lobbyists are playing this up to politicians.  How could your great father have been wrong? How could this great country be wrong all these years? 
Well they were and are wrong. One of the tests of a truly great person(country or group) is one who can admit they were wrong, when new evidence is presented. 
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:11am
Stephen, most of it is rooted (no pun intended) back in the late 30's; hemp, which is among the strongest natural fibers, also produces paper pulp, but William Randolph Hearst, who, not surprisingly, had huge holdings in Pacific Northwest timber, saw hemp as a threat to his business interests. He got his personal propaganda machine and the politicians in his pocket (Anslinger comes to mind) to vilify that demon weed with roots in hell...which I'm smoking as I type this, by the way, lol.
Cliff M. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:16am
Stephan, $ Money $ and Politics. Money does not care who gets hurt. The entrenched status quo is digging in to protect their turf. Legal weed would probably hurt Sessions moonshine business.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:24am
Michael, that is true, so many factions against the product as it would hurt their industries. But you would think that with all of the uses for hemp, some of these companies would have seen a new business opportunity, but I guess that the lobby was successful by people like Hearst as you pointed out. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:26am
Cliff no doubt this is all true. However the powerful tobacco industry was brought to it's knees when the facts came out. Why is that different? 
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:27am
Where's our old friend Ryan Messano, lol! Maybe I should write a post that advocates legalizing all vices on the planet, especially drugs and prostitution...that would lure him out. On second thought, bad idea, lol.
John Minehan Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:33am
This is an interesting question from the standpoint of US Constitutional Law.
 
The US is a Federal Republic composed of 50 sovereign (but not independent) states.  There is a central government of great power, but limited in its ambit.
 
There are Federal Laws against marijuana, but they are predicated on Federal Jurisdiction, in this case, a product that moves in INTERstate commerce.
 
Technically, a state (for example, Colorado) could legalize the use of cannabis or the trafficking of cannabis in INTRAstate commerce.
 
As a pure matter of law, the statutory schemes are compatible. 
 
People in Colorado could legally use cannabis grown in Colorado and shipped from elsewhere in Colorado, while DEA and FBI and US Attorneys could enforce the existing Federal Laws against any illegal cannabis brought in from elsewhere in the US or from another Country or against users under certain circumstances.
 
In practice, the Bush and Obama Administrations tried that . . . until too many states legalized medicinal or, even recreational, use and enforcement just got too complex.
 
This is not QUITE "Nullification," because the Federal Law require the predicate of movement in the stream of commerce and you can legalize "home grown cannabis."  There is room to read the two statutory schemes in conjunction.
 
But, until this decision, the law seemed to be looking to be moving toward change due to popular "pushback," the general outcome with Nullification.
 
 
 
  
John Minehan Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:39am
Now, I've never used it nor have I had any interest in it.
 
On one hand, it seems to have some medical benefits, with relief of symptom's from Chemo, etc.  On the other, smoking it seems to have health effects as bad as or worse than smoking tobacco.
 
But legally, I thought the Obama Administration was on the right track.
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:44am
Yes, pot definitely has heavy smoke, which among the reasons why I prefer the edibles. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what develops.
John Minehan Added Jan 6, 2018 - 10:51am
Apparently, so does former NM Governor Johnson . . . .
Cliff M. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 11:01am
Stephen,  Look at the facts and damage that alcohol has done.And yet It remains the most popular legal drug of choice.
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 11:08am
There are plenty of Republican potheads. At one job I had, the EHS manager (Environmental, Health, and Safety, for those that didn't know) was such a rabid right-winger that he was told to remove all of his political stuff from his office and to keep his political and other opinions to himself. One day I walked into his office with a question about a certain chemical, but he was on the phone and gestured for me to wait. I suddenly smelled the unmistakable aroma of high-potency pot, and was confused as to why I was smelling it there, of all places. Right when he hung up, the HR manager came bounding in, and asked if he had run over a skunk that morning. I had to turn around and actually snorted while suppressing a guffaw or two. I found out from a reliable source that both him and his wife were massive consumers of pot. Fucking hypocrite, lol!
opher goodwin Added Jan 6, 2018 - 11:31am
The illegality of Pot is the most stupid thing of all. Yes there are health aspects, driving and machine use problems, but the harm does not compare with alcohol or cigarettes. It should be treated as a health/social issue and nothing more. Hundreds of thousands have been criminalised and it was made into such an attractive lure to the young that it took off in a huge way that it wouldn't have done if it had been handled sensibly.
Great for music though.
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:06pm
Old bumper sticker: "Man made booze, God made pot. Who do you trust more?"
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:16pm
Well Michael, the post on legalizing all drugs would be an interesting one to debate. Many feel all of it is a health problem not a criminal one. And if we addressed it as such, the drug addicted would be better served health wise and at less cost to society.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:22pm
John, thanks for a few tidbits of clarity on this legal mess. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in the courts. I cannot see states like Colorado cooperating on this because for one thing, just too many $ at stake. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:25pm
Yes Opher there seems to be no logic. The other interesting thing is that no one has ever died from a marijuana overdose. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:30pm
Cliff, i thought that Coffee was, however none the less humans love their drugs, in many forms. Sometimes people do not even think they are doing 'drugs', as only bad people do 'drugs'.  
Even A Broken Clock Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:34pm
Stephen, back in the 30's when the classification of marijuana began, as you note there was a racial aspect associated with the drug. Those jazz musicians were "hepped" up on it and of course the whites had to oppose it. Then in the days of the 60's and 70's when I came of age, it was the drug of the counterculture so of course the silent majority had to take a moral stand against the drug. But the undercurrent of the moneyed interests fighting against it is undoubtedly the reason why it is still viewed with disgust by the current administration. Pharmaceutical companies cannot make vast fortunes with a natural product or its easily derivable components.
 
As for myself, it has been many decades since I imbibed, but what I'd really like to see is the legalization of hash. That stuff really tasted good.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 12:47pm
You are right Even, 'they' seem to have been able to link it's use to bad people, like at the time blacks or Hispanics, and then communism/hippies in the 60's/70's. (as was totally proven on the "Nixon Tapes")
Katharine Otto Added Jan 6, 2018 - 1:07pm
Stephen,
I've been researching the history of all drug laws, for posting here one of these days, and it is complex.  I think the current move to legalize marijuana in places like Colorado and California represent a huge grass roots movement against government paternalism and may become a states rights issue.  
 
John Minehan's explanation is interesting, but the situation becomes complicated when banks get (or refuse to get) involved, because currency is a national monopoly and falls under the jurisdiction of interstate commerce.  
 
The issue may develop the momentum to undermine the Federal Reserve Act, but that may be wishful thinking.  I say this because of the peculiar timing of the Federal Reserve Act (1913), the income tax (1913), Prohibition (1920), and the Harrison Narcotics Act of 1914, which put the federal government in control of all aspects of opiate and cocaine production, distribution, and sales.  The Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 required labeling of patented medicines that contained opium, cocaine, cannabis, alcohol, and other intoxicants.
 
Stricter laws regarding marijuana came later.  The  mood of the time was highly moralistic, with many leaders, like Woodrow Wilson and John D. Rockefeller proselytizing about "demon rum" and the like.
John Minehan Added Jan 6, 2018 - 1:22pm
"[B]ut the situation becomes complicated when banks get (or refuse to get) involved, because currency is a national monopoly and falls under the jurisdiction of interstate commerce."
 
That is a good question.
 
A few years back, I ate Christmas Diner with the family of a colleague.  They were involved with start-ups and the funding of them and they extolled the return on cannabis-based products.
 
They would be legal in INTRA-state commerce in a state that reformed its law and would be scalable in the event of a change in Federal law.  A state-chartered bank could lend to such a company, but it might be different with a Federally chartered bank (or with an institution tied to complying with certain Federal requirements since it participated in certain programs).
 
It is an interesting issue legally.   
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 1:51pm
Sometimes people do not even think they are doing 'drugs', as only bad people do 'drugs'.  
 
Case in point: Elvis Presley! Somehow, Elvis thought that because he scored his dope in a "legal" way, he wasn't bad. He had the PDR (Physician's Desk Reference) drig guide updated monthy, and went shopping every time. He looks higher than an airborne Air Force One in the infamous picture of him and Tricky Dick together.
Michael B. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 1:51pm
"drug guide", not "drig guide", lol.
Cliff M. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 1:55pm
Stephen, I guess your right. I switched from mass consumption of alcohol to mass consumption of coffee. I think if everyone could switch to the George Carlin theory of weed consumption and back off on the alcohol abuse the world would be a better place.
Bill Kamps Added Jan 6, 2018 - 2:29pm
What is funny is that the Democrats should be able to make points by objecting to the GOP position.  However, they are showing they are just as old fashioned as the GOP is when it comes to this issue.  This is similar to gay rights, the Democrats again were far behind the population.  Unfortunately, like most issues, our "leaders" are really followers, and are usually last to realize the opinion of the voters has changed. 
 
Perhaps if we had term limits and flushed the Washington toilet once in a while we would get people in Washington who were more modern and less concerned with making politics a career, which it never was intended to be.
Cliff M. Added Jan 6, 2018 - 3:06pm
Bill, In New Jersey the newly elected administration and Senator Cory Booker ,all Democrats are heavily behind legalization.Jersey is traditionally a Democratic state which has been penalized for electing Crisp Crispie after a weak showing by the previous democratic administration's.In Jersey the opiod epidemic is a huge problem that gets a lot of verbiage but little action,
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:06pm
Perhaps Cliff there is no appetite to make the world a better place. There is no money to be made in a healthy person, who is not buying weapons and running around in fear, preparing for the invasion. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:08pm
So true Michael! Elvis was a walking zombie especially in his later years. But he was a good boy now wasn't he?
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:11pm
Katherine I agree that the moralistic society of the early 1900's made it easy to demonize pot. Combine that with a bit of prejudice and i can see why people really did believe those Reefer Madness Movies. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:12pm
Bill can't disagree with your point about the dems. One would think they would be all over this issue in order to get voter support. It worked for Trudeau in Canada. 
John Minehan Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:15pm
Elvis Presley . . . former Spearhead Soldier, for whom the SGT Elvis A. Presley DFAC on Ray Barracks was named.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 5:40pm
Did not know that John. 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 6, 2018 - 6:36pm
Just one more thing that illustrates how ridiculous it is to insist DUHmerica is the freest country in the whole big wide world ever ever ever. 
Jeff Jackson Added Jan 6, 2018 - 7:57pm
Please read https://www.oyez.org/cases/2004/03-1454  the 9th Circuit Court's ruling concerning the CSA, (Controlled Substances Act) was:  "The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed and ruled the CSA unconstitutional as it applied to intrastate (within a state) medical marijuana use. Relying on two U.S. Supreme Court decisions that narrowed Congress' commerce clause power - U.S. v. Lopez (1995) and U.S. v. Morrison (2000) - the Ninth Circuit ruled using medical marijuana did not "substantially affect" interstate commerce and therefore could not be regulated by Congress."
The Supreme Court disagreed. Sandra Day O'Connor offered a rather strong objection, arguing that the states had the rights to do as they wished (within limits, obviously) and that California had every right to allow medical marijuana within its borders, because that was what federalism is all about. By the way, tell me how many people have overdosed on marijuana.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 9:23pm
Good point Jeffry. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 6, 2018 - 9:25pm
If bu overdose you mean death, i think the answer is 0 Jeff.
Doug Plumb Added Jan 7, 2018 - 5:44am
Its an interesting multi vector topic. I was hanging out with a bunch of pulp and paper guys and they said that hemp paper would be made better - ie cheaper, making the business worth less. If you have ever had hemp clothes then you know they last longer and are more comfortable than even cotton - although cotton is cooler. Hemp has about a million other uses.
  My contention is that they are making marijuanna legal because they have to. Everything previously illegal must be make legal so that people engaged in illegal activities are no more and therefore an opposition to electronic money disappears.
  This means that prostitution will be made legal as well, they are already training children for this in liberal schools. By the time a young girl is eight or nine years old, she will already fully know all of the unnatural sex acts and how to perform them so a life of legal prostitution will not require a training period - school to work training is what education is all about now.
  If marijuanna keeps people further from the liquor stores, I am in favour of it for that simple reason. But it is something I saw a CNN reporter smoking on youtube. That is idiocy, we are the idiocracy and we will be ready to accept the chip and that is what it is all about in the end.
  Plato's Republic is what they want and there won't be families, kids will be raised by the state. It will be a loveless world for us goyim if we do not wake up.
  Gentiles still have the courts but in Canada we have placed an astronaught in charge of guarding the common law from legislative error (its a phoney position since the legislation is no longer responsible to the queen who swore to uphold common law with a sword to her neck). I looked for her name with a religion associated with it in her upbringing, can find nothing. Usually the profile will say raised protestant or catholic in the profile. She doesn't look Muslim...
  If the fuckiness of the modern world doesn't come to a common thread then its all just coincidence or stupidity. Its mentally lazy to write things off like this. Everything happens for a reason.
Bill Kamps Added Jan 7, 2018 - 6:43am
Cliff, I was speaking of Dems at the national level.  The state people are different.  Whether they are motivated by the tax revenue, or trying to mitigate the opiod epidemic, or just personal freedom,  the state people are working towards legalization.  Most states that have legalized pot are blue states. 
Dino Manalis Added Jan 7, 2018 - 8:36am
The FDA has to approve the medical use of marijuana in new medicine, while federal and state laws must be clearly defined and differentiated to avoid legal conflicts and misunderstanding.  States are only interested in tax revenues, but abuse is still possible and should be avoided, it would also be important to analyze what are all the health; labor; and other costs associated with its abuse.
Cliff M. Added Jan 7, 2018 - 8:44am
Bill,  The Dems on the national level are pretty much lost and lack cohesion. The repubs have a current agenda that is going nowhere.
Leroy Added Jan 7, 2018 - 9:35am
We are naive to believe that pot doesn't have detrimental effects.  Like all drugs, it is a poison.  Maybe it helps one problem but creates another somewhere else.  There are studies that suggest that it can have long-term, negative effects on the brain.
 
Having said that, we don't need a nanny state.  Let the people choose their poison.   I really don't care what other people do to themselves as long as it doesn't negatively affect me.  We sure as heck shouldn't be putting people in jail for possessing it.
 
We all know about the opioid crisis today.  The longevity of Millennials and middle-aged Americans is in decline due to these medications.  It is truly an epidemic.  From my brief use of opioids, it doesn't relieve the pain for me; I just don't care about the pain.  I imagine pot would do just as well without killing people in the process.  Ok.  Much of the epidemic is due to illegal opioids, but, it often starts out with the legal use of it.  I'm convinced that pot is a safer alternative.  However, smoking any vegetation can't be good for your health.  I would rather not see smoking pot become wide-spread.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:11am
There are studies that suggest that it can have long-term, negative effects on the brain.
 
Mine have been positive effects. THC9 oil knocked back my Parkinson's which is of course a degenerative brain disease. I'm stronger and clearer headed than I've been in years. Now I'm just taking a maintenance dose every two weeks and I feel like a million bucks. Edibles are great recreational alternatives to "demon rum".
 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:12am
Doug, thanks for a very interesting post. I do not agree with some of your points however you have given me some things to ponder. I do agree that pot will keep more away from the liquor stores. Not all but many do get mellow or more peaceful in nature, so it takes away from aggressive behavior. 
Your point about the societal tendency to make everything legal; well, why should it not be legal IF the activity does not hurt other people. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:17am
I believe Dino the additional Healthcare costs for abuse of cannabis are quite small. Especially in comparison to the Opiods such as Oxycotin(legal) and heroin(illegal).
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:19am
Leroy, I guess Keith Richards or Willie Nelson were not part of those tests? 
Michael B. Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:36am
All I can say is that pot is good to me in all of its forms. A couple of years ago, I had something happen to me that got me on opioid painkillers for about 18 months, and then it stopped. I went through withdrawals for two weeks. It was like having a cold, the flu, and being beaten up by a baseball bat simultaneously. No thanks. Never again.
Doug Plumb Added Jan 7, 2018 - 10:43am
re "Your point about the societal tendency to make everything legal; well, why should it not be legal IF the activity does not hurt other people.   "
 There is the effect (s) and there is the motive(s). The motive of a lawmaker is as important as the law itself. Whether or not people should smoke pot is one topic, whether or not it should be unlawful is another and why they are making it legal, yet another.
opher goodwin Added Jan 7, 2018 - 12:30pm
Stepher  Jose Mujica, who legalised cannabis, said that the only good drug was love.
I'd partially agree with that. All drugs have a downside and I've seen the effects of legal and illegal drugs on friends and family. But there is not a society on earth that wasn't based around drug use and drugs obviously have a big part to play. Humans enjoy altering their mind state and always have. They can do that for artistic, spiritual, leisure, health, work or fun. I think drugs have a place but drug abuse doesn't and all drugs can be abused. It is a question of use and moderation for me.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 7, 2018 - 12:34pm
My point Doug is not whether one should or should use cannabis, but rather how should society treat those who do. With any behavior the first question law makers in any free country should ask; does that behavior affect others negatively. 
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 7, 2018 - 12:37pm
Opher could not agree more, the heartache and devastation created by drug(incl alcohol of course) is just awful. We need to treat this as a health problem, not a criminal one.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 7, 2018 - 6:12pm
Plumb Doug, part-time holocaust denier and moonlanding "conspiracy freak" sez: This means that prostitution will be made legal as well, they are already training children for this in liberal schools. By the time a young girl is eight or nine years old, she will already fully know all of the unnatural sex acts and how to perform-More of the same Stockton/Wilbwhite crap about liberals and education, without, of course, one cite to prove your statement which has nothing to do with pot, state's rights to legalize it or anything else but pile-on rightist drivel as usual.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 7, 2018 - 6:52pm
Part of the "unmentioned" in article was how pot possession in many states has fueled the revolving door of the for-profit prison system.  Trump wants businesses like that to make it big...sooooo...nothing like it to keep he flow of "those people" filing through the doors of the local for profit joint.  Pot is low hanging fruit for law enforcement and courts.  Don't want that to change, eh?
Doug Plumb Added Jan 7, 2018 - 6:53pm
@Stephen: I guess we have to consider why it was always illegal in the past. Young people do not know what is best for them. Marijuanna is bad for you if used in excessive quantities. It hurts concentration, sleep and deeper thinking although sometimes a user can be lead to believe otherwise. I know because I am an occasional user. I'm not an addict but I enjoy it sometimes the way most people enjoy a beer. I'm 53 years old, not 18. Too many people use it too much, but I think it does keep them out of liquor stores. I don't like booze, don't use it. But if pot wasn't around I might. I got demons to chase away just like most but I also practice hard deep thinking every day so I can't overuse it.
 
@Jeff re "... which has nothing to do with pot..." re read what I wrote. Its a fact that schools are teaching kids how to have unnatural sex. Its also a fact that people make a living at it.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 7, 2018 - 6:54pm
SHsez: Leroy, I guess Keith Richards or Willie Nelson were not part of those tests?-Hey! if we have a nuclear war, only Keith Richards and some cockroaches will be left, so humanity's future rests on Keith's shoulders.
opher goodwin Added Jan 7, 2018 - 7:02pm
Stephen - I can't help but think that if there had been a different approach - if drugs had always been a health issue instead of criminal - we might be in a different place right now. It seems to me that it is part of human nature to experiment and that can be a healthy thing if done in the right way. Consciousness is an interesting subject.
opher goodwin Added Jan 7, 2018 - 7:07pm
Doug - as a sex educator I can reassure you that the basis of sex education is not to train young girls to become prostitutes. It is to train all young people to manage relationships better, understand their drives and to be equipped to make good, well-thought out responses. Sex education actually has the opposite effect than you seem to imagine. It makes people more mature and responsible, reduces unwanted pregnancies and diseases and is the basis of healthier relationships. In countries where it is practiced youngsters start having sex at a later age.
Doug Plumb Added Jan 8, 2018 - 5:31am
If you ever read the Ontario liberal plan for sex education that came out last year you would change your mind about that. What is the point of teaching 8 year old girls how to give men oral sex ? I do not think the educators know or particularly care why the cirriculums are the way they are. Imagine a history teacher asking why he has to teach so much about the holocaust yet not mention the Bolsheviks? Education is programming, to an extent it must be.
  This teaching of little kids about sex is to sexualize them early so that they are busy thinking about sex rather than math or logic or history IMO. This is not just my opinion but I can't recall any references. Charlotte Iserbyte is a good ref for education.
Doug Plumb Added Jan 8, 2018 - 5:32am
I didn't know what sex was until around grade 6 and I was one of the first few to find out.
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 8, 2018 - 7:31am
Doug I did not know that Ontario taught Grade 8 kids the details of sexual positions. I can recall some groups protesting sex ed last year though.  But don't they all get that from the internet now anyway? (and not in a good way)
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 8, 2018 - 7:38am
I do remember in High School back in the 70's that RCMP officers came to the school for a talk on drugs. How bad it was and borrowing some references from Reefer Madness. Most of the kids- not me at the time, had tried it. The fact that they oversold the dangers was not a good thing. Cause once you do try it and realize the cops were not telling us the truth, it set off a rebellious notion that if 'they' are lying to us about this, what else are they lying about?
Stephen Hunter Added Jan 8, 2018 - 7:40am
Jeff good point on the prison system. And does the US not have one of the highest rates of incarceration? (much of it from drug convictions)
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 8, 2018 - 9:22am
if 'they' are lying to us about this, what else are they lying about?
 
 
Everything all the time.
 
The Burghal Hidage Added Jan 9, 2018 - 10:09am
Stephen -
Thanks for sharing this. I touched upon some of the points you cite here and some referenced by Leroy in an earlier essay, An Epidemic of Despair.
 
It is not a health issue. It is a matter of individual liberty.
Cliff M. Added Jan 10, 2018 - 3:07pm
There was a good article about Nixon's war on drugs on Drudge this morning. It talked about how Nixon's arch enemy was the hippie leader Timothy Leary and his hippie ,drug culture. He figured it would be a good diversion from the Vietnam War mess. Art linkletter was one of his confidants and preached how alcohol was safer than majijuana which could lead to harder drugs. I had forgotten that Nixon was the main guy responsible for the war on weed.
Jeff Michka Added Jan 10, 2018 - 7:31pm
SH sez: And does the US not have one of the highest rates of incarceration? (much of it from drug convictions)  Highest in the world. I hate using wikipedia, but has an interesting visual:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_incarceration_and_correctional_supervision_rate  It's further interesting to note which states have the highest incarceration rates. CM sez: I had forgotten that Nixon was the main guy responsible for the war on weed.  Yup ol Tricky came up with the Law Enforcement Assistance Act that was opening shots in drug war.  Nixon had more success in Vietnam...
Jeff Michka Added Jan 10, 2018 - 7:34pm
DV sez: Was it the DARE program in CANADA? I do remember in High School back in the 70's that RCMP officers came to the school-Drugs Are Really Enjoyable?
Jeff Michka Added Jan 10, 2018 - 7:36pm
Plumb Doug tries to defend: Its a fact that schools are teaching kids how to have unnatural sex. Its also a fact that people make a living at it. -Perhaps, but coming from you with no cites, it's conjecture...
Cliff M. Added Jan 11, 2018 - 8:07am
Back in the early 70's it was almost impossible to get arrested for weed in my neck of the woods. Then the crack heads came along and the crack heads changed everything.

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