I'm not the Asshole Whisperer

My Recent Posts

From time to time we get participants here on WB who who are not merely satisfied with a place where freedom of expression is paramount they seek to dishonor that ability by deleting comments that upset their sensitive emotions and even more egregiously attempt to change what we have here and mold it unto their own image. 

 

Assholes one and all. We and they know who they are. 

 

As our maid removes the detritus of our midday meal and we prepare to stroll naked a kilometer down our remote beach and frolic in the warm tropical water I'm at peace.

 

I'm not the Asshole Whisperer.

Comments

Utpal Patel Added Jan 9, 2018 - 1:24am
Everyone, including Autumn, has their own definition of what should constitute free speech.  The highest bar I know of is the United States government.  Assuming Autumn isn't violating US law, whatever additional restrictions she places on content here would be a step further towards censorship than the US Govt requires. After Autumn comes each individual author.  So one could argue we're all assholes, but some are bigger assholes than others.    
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 2:16am
In your case Utpal I most certainly concur. Thanks for stopping by.
Leroy Added Jan 9, 2018 - 7:15am
So, I am an asshole.  I have been called worse.  Nothing wrong, IMHO, in controlling the conversation.  Who wants to participate in a conversation where two are three people are hurling insults at each other.  It has its place but not in a serious discussion.
 
I do find it amusing those that try to establish silly rules for conversation.  I am reminded of when I was a teenager.  There was a kid who moved into town.  He started a Young Men's Club along with rules for acceptable behavior for young men.  You had to wear a suit to the meetings.  We ridiculed the poor bastard.  We were lured the first time with free food.  Even then we didn't want to go but our parents made us.  His two gorgeous sisters were the main draw.  It was too much for us.  We rebelled.  It lasted for two meetings.  The parents rightfully thought we were a bunch of deplorables.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 7:26am
Hadn't entered my mind that you were included in that group Leroy. Should I go back and reassess? But seriously, you have always been a top notch contributer in my book. Glad you're here and I enjoy your perspective on most things. 
Dino Manalis Added Jan 9, 2018 - 1:38pm
We all have assholes and we all fart emitting more carbon dioxide!  We share common physical characteristics!
Stone-Eater Added Jan 9, 2018 - 2:17pm
Jeffry
 
You know how to max your life, so why care ? ;-)
Benjamin Goldstein Added Jan 9, 2018 - 4:50pm
Leroy: You were not meant. Jeff means people who lack utter self-awareness and constantly announce rules like the teenie guy that you describe.
 
Jeff: I hate it when people delete my stuff and I never delete (John G exception with content recovery, only once). We are on one page.
TexasLynn Added Jan 9, 2018 - 5:58pm
While I am loath to use the little red X, I must admit I have, and was right to do so.  I did this only after a wise WB sage suggested that it is sometimes appropriate when the abuse and profanity add nothing and turn people away from the post.  I would never use it to remove an opinion opposite of mine for that sole reason.
 
That said, I'm still proud of the piece I penned advocating for the removal of a particularly abusive troll.  (That may have fit JGs definition… I don’t know) I'm also not beyond directly calling someone an asshole or moron when the circumstances call for it.
 
I have noticed a few whom I think JG is referring to.  It seems to be a maturity and intellectual honesty issue more than anything else.  It reminds me of every home owners association meeting I've ever attended (both of them); immature assholes with compensation and control issues trying to create a little fascist paradise.
 
I think I agree with Utpal, in that I see WB as a property owned by an individual (Autumn)... and if I don't like her rules; I can hit the road, create my own, etc...
 
Good to see JG has an outlet, as do I.  It may be a little colder, but squeezing off a half dozen rounds at a fleeing fuzzy-tail does wonders for the soul. :)
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 6:36pm
You know how to max your life, so why care ? ;-)
 
Exactly! You get the point Stone as I knew you would. 
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 6:38pm
Jeff means people who lack utter self-awareness and constantly announce rules
 
Exactly! You get it too BG. Thanks for adding value to this thread. 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 6:54pm
I would never use it to remove an opinion opposite of mine for that sole reason.
 
That's the most egregious of the delete feature there is and its good you don't succumb to it. 
 
I'm still proud of the piece I penned advocating for the removal of a particularly abusive troll.
 
I didn't care for him either but I wouldn't have advocated his removal. If one can be run off whom of us is next? 
 
Good to see JG has an outlet, as do I.
 
Entirely the point. Glad you do too. Thanks for also adding to this thread. 
George N Romey Added Jan 9, 2018 - 7:22pm
Let comments stand. They will get support or not.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 8:52pm
Let comments stand. They will get support or not.
 
Exactly! Thanks George.
 
Michael B. Added Jan 9, 2018 - 8:54pm
Hilarious! With a few exceptions, the only time I deleted comments was when I knew that it would be particularly infuriating to whoever commented. Ironically, those very same people were themselves PROLIFIC comment-clobberers on their own posts, as if they needed any assistance in underscoring what assholes they are. I like WB just how it is, even if it is getting more rated "PG-13" these days - the Wild West is over!
TexasLynn Added Jan 9, 2018 - 8:54pm
>> I didn't care for him either but I wouldn't have advocated his removal. If one can be run off whom of us is next?
 
I can respect that position. 
 
I do believe there is a line that can be crossed and I think it was in this case.  I made my case and Autumn disagreed (in another post) and I'm OK with that.
 
I haven't seen him active in a while and that is indeed refreshing (and who misses John G?).  But... like most communities, it hard to swing a dead cat without hitting another asshole. :)
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:00pm
I haven't seen him active in a while
 
I recall reading he/she/it has actually been banned. 
 
TexasLynn Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:20pm
>> I recall reading he/she/it has actually been banned. 
 
I had read that about John G... but not he/she/it.  If so... good.  I respect the decision, either way.
TexasLynn Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:26pm
Ooops... I just went to he/she/it's profile and see comments as recent as a few days go.  So he/she/it is still here or we're thinking about a different he/she/it.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:27pm
... but not he/she/it.
 
I used that description because he/she/its comments resembled very closely those of an earlier participant that was female but vowed never to return to WB. 
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:30pm
a different he/she/it.
 
John G is the he/she/it I'm referring to.
 
Michael B. Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:45pm
To this day, I truly hope that I subtracted at least five years from the life of "Marylin French", lol.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 9:54pm
"Marylin French", lol.
 
You do so admire her. 
 
Michael B. Added Jan 9, 2018 - 10:33pm
For the amount of attention she gave me, how could I not? She wrote 5 or 6 posts "exposing me" and "calling me out".
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 9, 2018 - 10:41pm
how could I not
 
One of the things I like about you is that you don't merely hold a grudge, you nurse it. 
 
 
Michael B. Added Jan 9, 2018 - 10:54pm
"One of the things I like about you is that you don't merely hold a grudge, you nurse it."
 
Is there any higher praise possible! Thank you, Captain Gilbert!
Doug Plumb Added Jan 10, 2018 - 4:53am
Jeffrey, you challenge my views. I'm here to have my views challenged. You give credibility to your side of things to an extent that I have not seen before.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 5:32am
Jeffrey, you challenge my views
 
Thank you Doug. WB is a great place for that. 
 
EXPAT Added Jan 10, 2018 - 10:18am
I'm back Jeffry. Glad to see the hash oil is improving your lifestyle. Your writing is far more lucid and logical.
Why don't you list the name of the Asshole you are referring to. I think he is Chris Crawford. He has blacklisted me, whatever the hell that means.
EXPAT Added Jan 10, 2018 - 10:23am
OOPS! I just saw you refer to John G, but he has been banned  by Autumn over a month ago.
I have been looking in from time to time, but found nothing worth comment.
I  am still in Pattaya.
Billy Roper Added Jan 10, 2018 - 10:48am
I didn't know that John G. was banned. Why was he banned? When did Autumn or her brother start banning people?
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 11:25am
Glad to see the hash oil is improving your lifestyle. Your writing is far more lucid and logical.
 
Thanks EXPAT, I was rather dubious but the enthusiasm of the recommending party was convincing. I'm glad I took his advice.  
 
Why don't you list the name of the Asshole you are referring to
 
The premise wasn't about the who but my solution to the behavior.  
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 11:28am
Why was he banned? 
 
I'm not privy to those details Billy. If my understanding is correct he pretty much dared her to do it. That's conjecture on my part. 
wsucram15 Added Jan 10, 2018 - 3:35pm
lol..i thought for a minute you guys were talking about me.. darn. 
 
I write for me,,it is your right not to comment and my right not to be abused for my opinion.  With that being said, I try really hard to respect everyone and even get them to see my pov..unless they disrespect me. 
Im always checking out this site...I just cant always comment. Still dont have the phone thing down and really why?
Im busy this month Autumn..it will slow down, this month is very hectic though. Hopefully you will see why.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jan 10, 2018 - 4:59pm
I have never deleted anyone' shit, and i think when the deleting becomes the norm, this previously welcoming wild west for exchanges of "whatever" become a pabluminized sophomoric feeding ground for those lacking the nuts for a whisky 'shine/rot gut enhanced discussion.
EXPAT Added Jan 10, 2018 - 10:52pm
Billy Roper. Autumn has been banning people from this site for as long as I know. Many of them just get back in with a new identity.
Members don't know when she Ban's people unless she exposes it in her Posts. What she does is block the target's log in. That way he/she cannot post anything negative. All their articles and comments remain. As far as members know, the target just stopped participating.
What used to be the Wild West is now a farm town on the prairie.
 
Autumn posted her exchange with John G, and why he was banned. I don't care enough to find it and copy/paste, but it was in response to Leroy, I believe.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 11:34pm
lol..i thought for a minute you guys were talking about me.. darn.
 
As I mentioned above Jeanne the premise is about my solution. Thanks for stopping by.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 11:36pm
 i think when the deleting becomes the norm, this previously welcoming wild west for exchanges of "whatever" become a pabluminized sophomoric feeding ground for those lacking the nuts for a whisky 'shine/rot gut enhanced discussion.
 
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel! Thanks for contributing to this thread. 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 10, 2018 - 11:37pm
Autumn posted her exchange with John G
 
I thought I recalled it that way but wasn't sure. Thanks EXPAT.
Michael B. Added Jan 11, 2018 - 12:40am
By the way...FUCK YOU!!!!
Michael B. Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:00am
I thought you would appreciate that, LOL.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:03am
I thought you would appreciate that, LOL.
 
I do. My duck is deeply upset however.....
 
Michael B. Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:06am
Fuck your duck, and fuck you, too! Anyway, how's it going, dude?
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:15am
Fuck your duck
 
Now the duck is happy! We thank you. 
 
I'm doing great. A combination of the THC9 and living at the beach has done wonders for me. Thanks for asking. 
 
Michael B. Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:40am
You're most welcome, dude! And, I truly hope that you're splattering your loads in as much hot oriental, I mean Asian pussy as possible!
The Burghal Hidage Added Jan 11, 2018 - 5:32am
Doc Green - I'm down! I brought some Jamesons :)
Autumn Cote Added Jan 11, 2018 - 7:01am
John G's account is no longer suspended, the reason you haven't seen him is because he's using the site under a different name.  Below was my last dialogue with the author formerly known as John G after the final straw (start from the bottom):
 
I'm uninterested in answering your questions or conversing with you. 
 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 4:27 AM, John G  wrote:
So you think that that piece isn't total fantasy?
I live in a different time zone.
Your software cuts off comments.
One comment became 3.
Why do your fellow extreme right wingers get to insult people without sanction?
Why didn't you suspend Corey when he breached your ultimatum?
 
On Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 9:21:54 pm NZDT, Autumn Cote <autumncote@writerbeat.com> wrote:
 
 
Providing something more than an insult in your commentary.  Not writing more than two comments in a row, preferably just one.  The below is the article you just commented in.  Show me you know how to behave by writing a comment proving you read his article and the reasons why you disagree.  Account unsuspended:
 
http://writerbeat.com/articles/19337-The-Occupied-Territories-by-David-Silon
 
 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:59 AM, John G  wrote:
Well define behave.
 
On Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 8:57:00 pm NZDT, Autumn Cote <autumncote@writerbeat.com> wrote:
 
 
You just called me an Islamaphobe, white fascist and dumb as fuck.  I'm not having a long conversation with you, when you're ready to behave, let me know. 
 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:52 AM, John G  wrote:
And I haven't 'called you names'.
 
On Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 8:44:02 pm NZDT, Autumn Cote <autumncote@writerbeat.com> wrote:
 
 
Calling me names will not get your account re-activated.  Let me know when you're ready to behave.  Until then, I have nothing more to say to you.   
 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 3:25 AM, John G  wrote:
Not to mention dumb as fuck.
 
Sent from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
 
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 8:00 PM, John G
 wrote:
Yeah, I picked you as an Islamophobe white fascist
 a while ago.
 
Sent from Yahoo7 Mail on Android
 
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 at 7:58 PM, Autumn Cote
<autumncote@writerbeat.com> wrote:
I just read your comment in David Silon's article.  Your account is suspended.
Leroy Added Jan 11, 2018 - 7:11am
"Autumn posted her exchange with John G, and why he was banned. I don't care enough to find it and copy/paste, but it was in response to Leroy, I believe."
 
I had nothing to do with it.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Jan 11, 2018 - 9:38am
With the exception of the rude exchange with Autumn I noticed that John G improved his behavior shortly before he was suspended. Interesting that he does not catch negative attention anymore. Glad that he returned.
Bill Kamps Added Jan 11, 2018 - 10:03am
While not always easy, the thing is just to disengage when someone starts hurling personal insults.  While people that insult me personally irritate me, and it takes some self control to ignore them, when I ignore them they go away, when I try to stop them they just get more fired up.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:47pm
Jeffry
 
A combination of the THC9 and living at the beach has done wonders for me
 
GOOD :-) Very good to hear that. No Jeffry here means at least 10% of good WB reasoning has gone :-)
Stone-Eater Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:52pm
Well.....I never had problems with John G, quite the opposite. When people stubbornly refuse to see realities, I understand that some people get high blood pressure and react that way. Which does not mean that the person is a bad guy. He's simply emotional, and this means he CARES for whatever it is.....and is frustrated that others don't make efforts to at least think about his points.
 
Life is subjective, ain't it ? ;-)
Stone-Eater Added Jan 11, 2018 - 1:54pm
BTW: Take Michael B. He insulted me to the worst, but time passes by, and at one point I thought maybe I ALSO am not free of prejudice. No one is. But we all can learn :-)
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 11, 2018 - 5:46pm
when I ignore them they go away
 
You're not a Whisperer either. 
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 11, 2018 - 5:47pm
Glad that he returned.
 
Me too.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jan 11, 2018 - 5:48pm
Very good to hear that.
 
Thanks Stone, its even better to live it. :-)
TexasLynn Added Jan 11, 2018 - 6:43pm
>> Interesting that he does not catch negative attention anymore.
 
I find that very interesting myself.  I would have thought his (corrosive) style would have given him away.  I say this to his credit.
 
My nemesis troll and I haven’t tangled in a while either.  I’m hoping we’ve just resigned to avoid each other.  Maybe we’ve blacklisted each other…
 
>> While not always easy, the thing is just to disengage when someone starts hurling personal insults.
 
You're a better man than I. :)  My reaction is to jump into the pen with them and wrestle until we're both covered in mud and $%^#.  Then I slowly climb my way out... so as to get an advantage of height and jump back in. :)
 
>> You're not a Whisperer either. (in reference to Bill K ignoring trolls)
 
$%^#! :) (meaning this conversation isn't going my way...)
Stone-Eater Added Jan 12, 2018 - 2:42pm
Well...I wonder WHO John G, is now. I miss his dry cynism and sarcasm. And his logic which is pretty unusual on a US site LOL
 
Maybe I feel that way because he partages my views ?
 
Shame on me !
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jan 12, 2018 - 5:41pm
 
"While not always easy, the thing is just to disengage when someone starts hurling personal insults.  While people that insult me personally irritate me, and it takes some self control to ignore them, when I ignore them they go away, when I try to stop them they just get more fired up."
 
That was a nasty exchange outlined by Autumn. If you lay with dogs you will get fleas. Ignore bad ass disrespectful blokes as people ignore me. I am not rude or vile, I just make people think.  A corollary to the discussion is the rude comment from some is rude as Trump--Americans putting a pig in a satin tub and not expecting it to posit an exchange to run off to the mud. For the sake of seeking diverse conversation outlining diverse views, we must accept that some derive their thinking from the swine's mud hole. Grin and bear it (oh shit, hope it is not taken as a me being a disrespector of maidens pure).  My absence and my discombobulation is a function of me trying to get some research published. That political "stray" threw me off a little.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Jan 20, 2018 - 12:18pm
Asshole report: Xanadu. He has even deleted Sutrina and Naspers. He wants to set up a Nazi-style human race breeding program, but cannot stand opposition.
Pardero Added Jun 9, 2018 - 12:03am
Jeffry Gilbert,
This reveals an interesting history that I was unaware of.  
I have had comments deleted by 5 writers.
I am now on good terms with one of them.
Another  presently avoids anything I write, and ignores, but no longer deletes any comments from me.
2 writers have not been around.
Finally, the peculiar case of Ryan Messano.
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 9, 2018 - 12:16am
Thanks Pard, I thought perhaps it was time to link this article to the present circumstances. 
Mustafa Kemal Added Jun 9, 2018 - 9:28am
Jeffrey,
re:"I thought perhaps it was time to link this article to the present circumstances. "
Indeed it was well timed.
 
 
Mustafa Kemal Added Jun 9, 2018 - 9:32am
Pardero, Ive been reading 
Saxons, Vikings and Celts
by Bryan Sykes 
and it is essentially a report on using DNA to do archeology.
Using it to study the history of the British Isles. I think you may find it  interesting. I certainly am.
 
Mustafa
Pardero Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:00am
Mustafa,
I have been meaning to get it for 
years!
Pardero Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:03am
Sykes is great. He built on the work of the pioneer, Cavalli-Sforza.
Mustafa Kemal Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:06am
Pardero, you are a most remarkable roughneck.
Pardero Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:12am
You will be yet more erudite than me! Luckily, I will probably always be the authority on Fraulein Feldgrau postcards, an often overlooked field of study. ; )
Pardero Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:50am
You are too kind, my friend.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 9, 2018 - 10:59am
Indeed it was well timed.
 
Thanks.
 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 9, 2018 - 11:01am
Pardero, you are a most remarkable roughneck.
 
Agreed. Thanks for your contribution to this thread.
Mustafa Kemal Added Jun 9, 2018 - 4:56pm
Pardero, Indeed, I seemed to have overlooked
Fraulein Feldgrau
but not now. Its time put the nose to the grindstone.
 
Jeff Michka Added Jun 10, 2018 - 6:45pm
Hmm, did someone tell you to whisper to Ryan Messano, Capt Gilbert?  What would that accomplish?

Recent Articles by Writers Jeffry Gilbert follows.