My simple plan to end school shootings.

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Let me state from the beginning. I pray for those whom lost their lives and the families that are burying their dead children.


The "gun debate" has come up again.  We must ban this, that and the other thing.  We must think of the children.


I understand, honestly.


I believe the most prudent approach should be the simplest.


Ban schools.


See how easy that was?  No more "school shootings", no more carnage of our innocent children, no more "divide and conquer" politicking to strip the rights of others.


I know that many will be against this because they've gotten used to having the cheap "daycare" we've been providing so that they (the parents) can make a career or whatever. It's all about them (the parents) until reality sets.  They gave up their rights and let someone else raise their children and those surrogates failed at the most fundamental duties, their safety and security.


Imagine with me, if you will, a country where parents actually raised their children. Where parents spent time with them and educating them, teaching them and showing them the world...  Maybe along the way, imparting their own morality to their offspring.


Take responsibility for your choices and the failures they led to. Understand that abrogating others rights doesn't negate your duties as a parent nor will it make your children safer.






George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 8:26am
My sense is that the economic  system we’ve been living under for the past 40 years is literally killing us. Once we ditch the profits at any cost and treating humans as machinery we might solve some of these increasing problems. Till then it will get much worse. 
Leroy Added Feb 26, 2018 - 8:30am
FJ, the two articles are completely different.  The article you reference was a serious, although misguided, attempt at resolving school shootings by removing those who don't want to be there.  I'm going out on the limb by calling Gerrilea's article sarcasm to make a social point about our schools and parental responsibility.  Maybe I am wrong, but I read it as a cry to get parents involved in their children's education--to give a damn--and not to turn this responsibility completely over to the state that has a different agenda.  
Ari Silverstein Added Feb 26, 2018 - 8:32am
Will you also ban movie theaters, churches and concerts?  Assuming a child doesn’t have parents capable of educating their own children (parents need to work, parents aren’t educated, parents are dead or deadbeats) how will these children be educated if there are no schools?
Bill H. Added Feb 26, 2018 - 10:55am
From what I see, the average parent these days (aside from their job), spends most of their time watching TV, surfing the internet, and staring at their smartphone. I would not expect them to be able to provide much of an "education" to their children at all.
I've heard some talk of web-based schooling, but there is also the possibility of what many home school supporters fear the most, an "agenda" being taught, not to mention the child being deprived of a social life with other children. During my career, I had worked with some people who had obtained Engineering degrees and "MBA's" online, and found many of them to totally lack real skills and application abilities when tasked with the realities of the job, along with difficulties with both patience and teamwork skills.
The problems we are seeing today with children has it's roots with social media, television programming quality, violent video games, pharmaceuticals, and lack of parental guidance. We not only need to tackle these problems, but need to at the very least tighten background checks on guns, and raise the age from 18 to 21 for the purchase of certain weapons. We are no longer in an era of flintlock weapons that take about a minute to reload, and we are doing a very sad job of "regulating the Militia" for sure.
George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 11:27am
I agree with all of these comments. Sadly given what Washington DC has become there will be no progress. Our society will continue to decline including our young people become cold stone killers.
Too many people (like some here on WB) claim we’re far better off today yet the evidence is overwhelming. I used to think that I would live to be 100 and wanted so. Given this Mad Max world we’re heading to checking out sooner rather than later doesn’t look all that bad.
This is going to get far worse.
Bill H. Added Feb 26, 2018 - 11:55am
We need to look at the big picture and take care of all of the issues, not just a selective few. Much has to do with continuing and accelerating profits for those who benefit at the expense of the people, and we will continue to be bombarded with justifications as to why many of the negatives are "good for us". We are not only puppets of the media and pharma, but also the wishes and profits of the NRA.
And yes, I am a very responsible gun owner.
George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 12:44pm
Based upon what I see nothing will be done on any front. Our legislators simply cannot do the job they’re paid to do unless it benefits their big money donors.
George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 1:17pm
The best Democracy money can buy!
John Minehan Added Feb 26, 2018 - 1:18pm
Have you read this?
Dino Manalis Added Feb 26, 2018 - 3:37pm
Schools must be as safe as being at home!
Bill H. Added Feb 26, 2018 - 3:53pm
George - you are most likely correct, in that Trump and his puppet cabinet will simply do as they always do, just let the issue get swept under the carpet by another future issue.
The last thing we will hear from Sara Huckabee will be "The President has made his intentions quite clear......uhh........moving forward....uhh......."
John Minehan Added Feb 26, 2018 - 3:56pm
"And in my family, we would try homeschooling, but I don't think we would do a better job than our local school system."
I think that has real merit.  To trivialize it a bit, it is a "Make or Buy" decision. 
Bill H. Added Feb 26, 2018 - 5:26pm
At present, we are controlled by corporations and the ultra-wealthy. The people's ability to control or change things is pretty much gone, therefore the term Oligarchy is pretty damn appropriate at this time.
I will go as far as saying we are presently moving into a combination of an Oligarchy and a Dictatorship.
When people simply sit back and "ride the bus", this is exactly what happens. Systems morph into a product of a mixture of major ingredients, just like a recipe. Now that those in power can utilize the internet, they can morph us into whatever they require very quickly. The latest tools are Amazon Alexa and Google Home. With what is in the works for these kinds of devices at both companies and other's "Skunk Works", we should all have reason to be concerned. After all, we all chose to ignore "user agreements" years ago, so the standards of privacy have all disappeared.  
Katharine Otto Added Feb 26, 2018 - 5:34pm
Your idea occurred to me, too.  Not to ban schools, but to eliminate compulsory education, at least after the three R's are taught.  People don't realize how expensive our bad educational system is.  Most of property tax goes to education, as well as over 50% of at least the Georgia state (and most likely other states) budget.  Of course the federal government provides money with strings attached, too.  
Another thing that bugs me (but this may not be directly pertinent to the shooting issue) is that schools discriminate by age.  Why aren't older people allowed to attend public schools as students?  Why are school grounds virtually abandoned after school is out and on weekends?  Why aren't they places where neighbors can meet and learn things at night?  Schools buildings and grounds could be much better utilized than they are.  More people coming and going would make it harder for a shooter to do his thing.  
George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 6:25pm
Much of what is discussed costs money. Just think what we could have afforded if there had been no Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, all the other dozens and dozens of conflicts not to mention what we’ve spent on the surveillance state. We are now so bankrupt these are nothing more than pipe dreams.
Americas best days at least for now are long gone.
Leroy Added Feb 26, 2018 - 7:42pm
The problem is that we have to depend on the people who created the mess to fix it.
George N Romey Added Feb 26, 2018 - 7:55pm
Leroy and they are unwilling and/or unable to do so.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 26, 2018 - 8:34pm
I'm certainly in favour of better education. But what scares the hell out of me is the fact that so many of you believe these school shootings are actually real in spite of contrary evidence that you won't look at. It scares me to think what you might believe next, or what you will not see next.
Steve Bergeron Added Feb 26, 2018 - 9:26pm
Homeschooling would be a better alternative than almost any public school, I think.  Far better learning environment, far less dangerous distractions (drugs, knives, guns, etc.).  Parents are back in the driver's seat, rather than allowing the inmates from the asylum to drive their kids.  
Bill H. Added Feb 26, 2018 - 10:15pm
How many out here actually believe "parents are back in the driver's seat"?
Certainly not most of the parents I am seeing in my "hood" these days.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 27, 2018 - 5:51am
re "The problem is that we have to depend on the people who created the mess to fix it.  "
The problem is that we do not actually recognize the problem. Most people want the problem to match up to their own world view, they will not look at evidence to the contrary.
Terror has always been a tool of governments. Its not something people actually do. It has been used as a tool for government throughout history, since the written word or before. If our governments are setting these shootings up then there is nothing new about this and nothing unusual about this.
The truth is easy to see, you just have to be able to look.
wsucram15 Added Feb 27, 2018 - 8:11am
Hey G...
My only experience with a shooter was when my son was in elementary school.  Which of course is located near a residential area. On a given day years ago a man decided he would stockpile some ammo and guns, went off his bi-polar meds and crawled through the under ground pipes and tunnels to escape police looking for him to our little neighborhood.
He was looking for his girlfriend and her son who had gotten away from him and were at her parents house near the school.  He held that neighborhood at bay for two days until he shot everyone in the parents house including himself.
People could not leave their homes and they could not go home. FBI and other Feds had everything sealed off. 
Its not the place...its the legislation. The 2nd amendment does not protect semi-automatic weapons, nor does the 2008 SC case which actually gives the wording of allowing individuals guns for protection in instances of defense. Scalia a conservative and hunter wrote the decision.   But he also warned of going too far.
Perhaps other things need to be done as well..or not as much.  But compromises need to be made here.
Frosty Wooldridge Added Feb 27, 2018 - 10:27am
Humans  have been slaughtering each other from the dawn of humanity. Won't change now or ever. It's the nature of being an animal.  At the same time, yes, we need community and cultivating each new baby and young person into feeling a part of community. However, in America, that's not happening in Chicago, LA, NYC and beyond.  Not enough fathers stay with the women they impregnate to bring up healthy children.  
Doug Plumb Added Feb 27, 2018 - 12:31pm
Above all else, we live in a propaganda state. If everyone knew how effective propaganda could be, even back in the 20's and could understand the power magnification factor that technology gives, they would be scared shitless, about what the neighbor may be made to believe if nothing else.
Katharine Otto Added Feb 28, 2018 - 11:23am
One of the advantages of literacy is being able to read interesting threads like this.  I don't teach, have children or a gun, so school shootings will probably never affect me directly.  I also don't have a television, so don't even have to know the latest media scare if I don't want to.
That so many people are all wrapped up in what "we" should do about our current culture of violence only tells me we don't have enough useful to do.  Ommmmmmm.  Maybe "we" should relax a little and think about all the ways we contribute to the problems by getting so upset and reactionary.
Maybe people are addicted to fear and anger so will look for any excuse to feel them.  Maybe they are adrenaline junkies, and their lives feel dull and boring without a rousing jolt of terror in their humdrum lives, every now and then.
The habit of fear and anger becomes self-fulfilling and leads to events that generate more of it.  Our national habit is getting tiresome.  Maybe "we" should just grow up.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Feb 28, 2018 - 4:56pm
I always wonder after school shootings how much I must pretend not to have pure ice in my veins.
As far as I can tell none of my children were killed.
This sounds terribly rough, but I don't see how a policy must be designed in the wake of a news grabbing crime.
Now, I write something that you will rarely see from me: A praise of Merkel.
When the Jihadi drove a truck into the Christmas market, it took over a year AND an open letter from the loved ones of the blood puddles, published in a major newspaper, until she even wrote one single card or met one single mother in grief. A heart of stone. Good on her.
I mean, immigration policy and gun policy can be decided on the basis of the arguments anytime between major crimes. Policy is policy. Either an argument stands when emotions are down or it doesn't at all.
Bill H. Added Feb 28, 2018 - 10:43pm
So it is ban schools, then theaters, then churches, then public venues, then SSRI drugs, then video games, then violent movies and TV?
But don't mess with gun laws?
Sorry, but as a responsible gun owner, I think we need responsible gun laws.
At least this time, maybe we can get the age limit raised on rifles. Maybe next time (after more kids die) we can get some real background checking done.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 1, 2018 - 2:58am
All levels of government failed to follow the laws already passed.  Making more laws is insane.
Well past time to ban law makers too. 
That's just me, I could be wrong.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 1, 2018 - 9:58am
I'm not talking term limits. I'm talking getting rid of the bunch of 'em
Jeffry Gilbert Added Mar 1, 2018 - 1:05pm
I only go to well-supervised ranges where they have actually told people to leave the premises and never come back if they do something stupid.
Which usually means cops aren't allowed to shoot there. Good on ya.
George N Romey Added Mar 1, 2018 - 9:39pm
If we didn’t have the Cold War, the Vietnam War, the Korean War, the 2 gulf wars, the add on wars in the Middle East, the numerous skirmishes, the surveillance state and the military and dollar hegemony maybe we could have built the great society we all so crave.
Eric Reports Added Mar 6, 2018 - 3:17pm
Day-care, liberalism and the school system are the reasons why we have the MILLENNIALS of today.  71% of young people voted for Hillary Clinton. It sure as hell wasn't because HRC is "cool".  They were brainwashed by the MSM. 
Doug Cotton Added Mar 21, 2018 - 8:06pm
Australia has the answer since it banned ready access to guns after the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania.