Origins of Most Conflicts Since 1946, inc. ISIS (Condensed)

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I wrote this as a (hopefully) informative comment for Mishel of Deception Bytes, who analyses Q Anon very well, I think.  I hope that it's useful here on Writer Beat.
 
My real name is Gerry Hiles, which I prefer to my nick Setacros.
 
Dear Mishel. It is good to see you waking up about ISIS, etc., so I'll give you more background (thoroughly checkable).
 
The Taliban and Al Qaida were set up by the CIA in Afghanistan during the 1980s to counter Soviet support for the legitimate secular government. Osama bin Laden was a CIA operative aka Tim Osman (and had nothing to do with 9/11, in fact died in a Pakistan hospital in Dec 2001 under CIA guard).
 
US objectives were achieved in Afghanistan, the Soviets withdrew (it was intended by Zbig Brz as their "Vietnam" in his "Grand Chess Board, loser!), the Afghan government fell to extremists and the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 … all planned/deliberate. (I am trying hard to condense everything!!)
 
Collapsing the Soviet Union was Truman's objective in starting the Cold War and arms race. Doubt me? Well part proof is that NATO was formed before the Warsaw Pact was formed as a defensive counter measure.
 
We need to go back to immediately before and after WW2, after which, under the auspices of Truman and the Dulles Bros, "Operation Paperclip" brought many Nazis to the US, including von Braun (rockets) and Mengele and Gestapo operatives, who helped set up the CIA. Meanwhile an academic called Leo Straus (Zionist Jew) set up the Chicago School at the University of Chicago, with an ideology borrowed from Trotsky, of permanent war/revolution/chaos … so not to actually win wars, but get control through making havoc, breaking up countries/divide and conquer. Ring any bells?
 
The graduates included such as Richard Pearl and Milton Friedman, but many others collectively known as "neoconservatives" (neocons), on the more militaristic front, and "neoliberals" (neolibs or just libs) on the economic/(anti)social front. Starting to make sense??
 
Names like Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke are prominent. Nearly all were/are Zionist Jews, but on the neocon front are included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and John McInsane of course. Under Reagan (check Paul Craig Roberts on this) the neocons were resisted and even G H W Bush called them "crazies", but by the end of Bill Clinton's presidency they had gained full power, both neocons and neolibs.
 
In this context "liberal" has NOTHING to do with liberality and tolerance, etc., actually an Orwellian opposite, as is in plain sight now with Antifa and other Soros/Rothschild funded groups … this is how sensible discourse is now impossible/chaotic).
 
It is no longer possible to sensibly talk about "left" and "right", "socialist" and "fascist", etc. and "political parties" are largely meaningless. During the 1990s these psychos developed their NWO plans and especially the PNAC, which Wesley-Clark revealed, in part, as a plan to destroy seven countries in five years. He said this about a year after the 9/11 "New Pearl Harbor" false flag, which was used to "justify" starting chaos by destroying Afghanistan, then Iraq (Yugoslavia came earlier), then moving on to Somalia, Libya, Syria and eventually Iran. 
 
Well it's at least 15 years and trillions of dollars over budget, hence the present panic … oh and Russia was the ultimate goal and was not supposed to recover from deliberate destruction during the 1990s. Oops, to say the least!! That's the reason for all of the Russia hysteria these last few years, NOT because Russia is any kind of threat, just because it said NO to the NWO, banned Rothschild and took control of the Russian Central Bank, allying with China financially too.
 
Actually CIA/MI6 destabilization projects began as far back as 1953 in Persia (Iran) when secular/socialist President Mosadeq was overthrown and the brutal Shah was installed, but it was not until the 1980s that Al Qaida (the data base) was formed in Afghanistan - basically a mercenary army comprising (increasingly) disaffected young, gullible, radicalized "Moslems" from around the World (now), from the US, through Russia and Asia to China, to Indonesia and even Australia.
 
Ultimately - I am sure - this hotch-potch mercenary army is in service to Rothschild and Associates, via the CIA/MI6/Mossad and other Western semi-secret arms of the "deep state", which maybe (I hope) Trump is really opposed to (my internal jury is out, but not so much about Q Anon).
 
Anyway though names keep changing and internal factions often fight with each other, Al Qaida never went away. It was used in Chechnya and terrorist attacks in Russia, but got almost completely eliminated. It was used in Iraq and Libya, then of course in Syria, where the SAA, Russia, Hezbollah and Iran would by now have defeated them, if not for continued US, Israel and Saudi support.
 
Trump seems to flip flop, but he has CERTAINLY done nothing to defeat Al Qaida/ISIS/ISL/Daesh/FSA, etc. yet … quite the opposite by calling Bashar al Assad an "animal" and threatening all out war (perhaps Q can influence him?).
 
I hope that my compressed account helps your understanding Mishel. I am 75 and I've studied history and World affairs quite intensively for over 60 years. I am sure that my summary is pretty accurate and checkable if you have time to pursue all of the potential threads. Or just take my word for it. I never knowingly lie.
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George N Romey Added Apr 10, 2018 - 3:50pm
Great article. My personal hunch is that this crowd sees a day that the Earth is inhabited by a small crowd of elites, somewhere around 1 billon or less. Humanity will consist of the top global 2%-3% and the serfs to handle the grunt work. To achieve this means death through wars and economic implosion-or the destruction of the upper middle and middle class.
Dino Manalis Added Apr 10, 2018 - 4:02pm
Trump's aggressive policies have minimized the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, but both ISIS and Al qaeda continue competing for attention and support around the world.  
Setacros Added Apr 10, 2018 - 4:17pm
Dino:  I wish that you were correct, but I'm far from convinced, e.g. those missile attacks about a year ago and current rhetoric.  No US troops have been removed yet either.  I know what he has claimed, but ISIS, etc. is being defeated by the SAA, Russia, Hezbollah and Iran, with help from some Iraqi militias … and the Iraqi army in Iraq.
Doug Plumb Added Apr 10, 2018 - 4:20pm
Good article, and facts spot on as far as I can tell.
 
Two points of contention:
 
 (1)The president has no say over the foreign policy of the Delaware registered corporation known as United States unless congress declares war, which it rarely does. These wars are being fought for the banks and on behalf of the banks. We can run around screaming all we want, but we have no lawful standing to do anything about it. Hopefully younger folks will stop joining the army to fight banker wars. "War is fought for money" - Plato/Socrates.
 
(2) This is really a lot of noise and its got us looking for monkeys outside the house in the trees while there are snakes between our bed sheets. The common law is being destroyed. We need to fix that and return to lawful currency and not worry about what the Fed does overseas IMO. We have no power to change what the Fed does.
 
We should be demanding restricted immigration because those Muslims want to kill or enslave all Christians. The president has jurisdiction on this point.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Apr 10, 2018 - 6:50pm
Nearly all were/are Zionist Jews.
Catch the thief! I have also written about these creatures:
http://writerbeat.com/articles/20662-Da-Jews
They must be stopped!
Setacros Added Apr 10, 2018 - 9:07pm
Doug:  I am aware that presidents have limited powers and that if they over-step they are likely to have nasty "accidents".  It's just conventionally convenient to talk in terms of presidents, countries, etc. rather than real powers like Rothschild and Associates, which'd lose most people off the bat, unless slid into a narrative.
 
I haven't believed that anything can be done - except keeping informed - until and unless there is complete system breakdown in the West, worse than happened to Russia during the 1990s, which should end the Rothschild central banking cabal.  When?  Don't know.  They are good at can kicking so far … or war.
Pardero Added Apr 10, 2018 - 11:00pm
Setacros,
A lot of people will take this for antisemitism. They will avoid you, and anyone who comments on the article. 
Mindless racism is not my cup of tea, any more than mindless antisemitism. I oppose vilifying any group, for accident of birth or religious affiliation. Actions, by any individual person, is another matter. Even if a particular group has a propensity for behaviors, that are destructive to society, each individual cannot be judged by the behavior of the others.
I will give you every benefit of the doubt.
Let's say, that your information is accurate and easily verified by any intelligent person. What to do with the information?
I don't dispute your information, but how can it be used in a way that does not persecute a group for an accident of birth or adherence to a religion?
I am aware that we need sovereign money and anti-usury laws. 
Any interdiction must be lawful and just. Any laws must proscribe behaviors, not ethnic origin or religious affiliation, or I would be among the opposition. Any suggestions are unacceptable to me, unless they do not cast aspersions on an entire group, instead of individual wrong-doers.
I am willing to stipulate that you are accurate to the best of my knowledge.
What are your lawful, just, and Constitutional solutions?
Setacros Added Apr 10, 2018 - 11:48pm
Don't accuse me of "antisemitism", "mindless racism", nor any of such rubbish.  I will state facts, such as that Jews are not a race of people and nor are they Semites.  Anyone practicing Judaism from any country, e.g. Ethiopia or Japan, is a Jew.  There are numerous Jewish sects and many are not Zionists, but many Zionists in Israel are atheists, therefore not Jews (anymore than an atheist can be a Christian or Moslem).  But I suppose you'll reject these facts.
 
"Semitic" refers ONLY to a group of languages: e.g. Babylonian and Ancient Hebrew (both extinct), Aramaic still spoken by a few in Syria and ARABIC spoken by millions.  Modern Hebrew is a recent construct.
 
If you cannot handle these facts and are so paranoid as to read "mindless racism", etc. in what I wrote, then I pity you.
 
If this is what Writer Beat is all about and/or if you can censor me, then go ahead, I'm out anyway.  I do not give a fig about your blind prejudice which, I suppose, you project onto others.  I have never been prejudiced nor racist … far from it.  Examine your own soul.
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 12:09am
Setacros,
I didn't word it well. I do not call you or anyone an antisemite.
I had intended to appear neutral.
We have a sensitive group here, and it is likely that sensitive people will read the article.
I meant to say, that many will take it for antisemitism. Not me, or any of my close associates.
I have been called an antisemite by some here because I have identified a similar crowd to yours.
I wrote that comment, also for the people who are always shouting antisemite at me and others. 
In spite of the misunderstanding, I still don't know any solutions to the Neo-cons steering us into foreign interventions.
Setacros Added Apr 11, 2018 - 12:36am
OK I accept what you've explained, but I'm not interested in any "sensitive group".  I prefer men like Gilad Atzmon, Stephen Cohen and others who have their own doubts.
 
I agree with you that there may be no way of stopping the neocons.  I've just read articles by Paul Craig Roberts, Dimitri Orlov and the Saker - also statements by Kremlin military spokesmen - all expect war, unless (hoped for) sane Pentagon generals stymie it somehow. 
 
Russia has now deployed latest air to ship missiles in Syria and (unconfirmed at this writing) the Russian military has been put on full alert (I'll check later with Sputnik and closer sources).  Russia WILL sink any ship which fires a missile and kills Russians legally in Syria.  Latest news is that Russian personnel and equipment have been moved to better protected positions.
 
I haven't expected to be able to do anything about anything significant for a long while - not since the CIA coup against my Australian Government around 1975 - but I would rather stay informed than get taken by surprize.  That's basically where I'm coming from and writing (when I do) for those of similar mind.
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 1:20am
Setacros,
Thank you for the reply. I follow Paul Craig Roberts. I donated a small sum to Gilad Atzmon's defence fund.
I am an admirer of The Saker's philosphical but gritty writing style. His voice is highly valued.
I hope the Russians have all the advanced weaponry that they are claimed to have.
A bloody nose may make the Neo-cons think this madness over.
The Russians have shown incredible restraint in the face of intense provocation.
They may have to stand aside and let the US help the Islamists and Israel. There is no good outcome.
It is my belief that world hegemony ushers in the New World Order, when the Neo-cons turn their attentions inward, with no more external threats. China will bow down after Russia falls. 
Setacros Added Apr 11, 2018 - 1:44am
Pardero?  What makes you think that Russia will fall?  Never has and have you seen the latest weapons?  Unstoppable.  Do you know that all major Russian cities are ringed with S-400s, if not S-500s now?  Are you aware of unique laser weapons?  Did you know that Russia has shelters for all major population centres and recently held a drill for 40 million people?  The main reasons that Russia defeated the Mongols, Napoleon and Hitler were solidarity and concentration on defence.  This hasn't changed.
 
If, perchance, Russia was defeated it would be MAD in practice.  The US would be ruined - nothing can stop Russian retaliation - and so would China, because ALL World trade would cease.  It makes no sense about China "bowing down".  To what?  Currently Russia and China are united (with Iran and others) in stopping the NWO.  Have you not heard about Russia and China ditching the petrodollar.  Why would they give up on years of developing One Belt and the whole Eurasian project?
 
Of course if the US brings on nuclear World War Last, then everything is finished, though not all humans would be killed.
Doug Plumb Added Apr 11, 2018 - 6:10am
re " I am aware that presidents have limited powers and that if they over-step they are likely to have nasty "accidents"."
 
That is not it, he just doesn't have the jurisdiction. The banks can tell the president to go piss up a rope anytime and have him out of office within days. The presidents have somehow been instructed to take the heat for the Fed's foreign policy on Tee Vee so the American people don't learn the truth. The armies work for the financial institutions. Ask an officer sometime..
Doug Plumb Added Apr 11, 2018 - 6:11am
re "Gilad Atzmon's defence fund."
 
Is he in jail for speaking about Jews or Israel?
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 8:20am
Doug Plumb,
Gilad is on trial in the UK for that, yes. On trial for politically incorrect speech. Coming soon to a country near you.
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 8:20am
They will bankrupt him for telling the truth.
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 8:24am
Doug,
Enjoy your luxury of free speech while it lasts. Canada already has severe restrictions on free speech, and they are working on it in the US. Some groups cannot be criticised. 
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 8:32am
Doug Plumb, 
You're a smart guy. You know some issues are fine for devate because they give the illusion of freedom and free speech. 
Notice how some 'conservative' writers only address the politically correct 'right wing' issues. It is a fake consensus. Observe how they studiously blackball anyone who goes off the approved PC reservation. I advise you to be sceptical of those fake conservatives. They are merely trolls and bots, in their own way.
 
Pardero Added Apr 11, 2018 - 8:37am
TexasLynn is probably the only mainstream conservative that can be trusted. He had the guts to bring up secession. Please not the fake 'mainstream conservatives' that avoided the article. 
Don't trust any of the phoney 'consensus mainstream conservatives.' They are Neo-cons or useful idiots. 
Setacros Added Apr 11, 2018 - 2:17pm
Doug:  Maybe I wasn't explicit enough, but I did mention Rothschild & Associates, actually about eight dynastic corporations which control a myriad minor ones and 50%+ of World trade, therefore central banks and governments.  If you are really interested, then browse through this academic study:  http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025995 
 
I suppose I am remiss by assuming that "everyone knows" on alternative sites that private corporation central banks control governments, except for Russia (now), China, Syria, Iran, Cuba, N Korea and, formerly, Libya and Iraq.  That alone speaks volumes, but hark back to c.1790 when the Rothschild Patriarch said something like, "I don't give a fig who imagines he is in 'government', as long as I control the money supply."
 
Hope this clears things up, but read back to where I wrote, "Ultimately - I am sure - this hotch-potch mercenary army (ISIS, etc.) is in service to Rothschild and Associates".
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 8:22am
Secratos
 
Thanks so much for this. More and more thoughtful authors and commenters appear here, and I'm happy to follow you. I'm content that age and experience doesn't always end in a visit of Mr. Alzheimer ;-)
 
Let me assure you that, wherever you come from, many people I know here in Europe or Africa, are well informed about what REALLY happens on that planet.
 
Only some people on a small island called USA seem to be reluctant to eye openers LOL
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 8:29am
Pard
 
Sorry, but I can't see any antisemitism in the article. I see anti-Zionism at some degree, but that's not the same as antisemitism to me. Whileas: What's antisemitism ? The semitic race is not only Jewish but semites are also Arabs, and no one can deny that Jews and Arabs are related, just like we Swiss and the Germans are related.
 
These definitions are in the same way useless and used only for political propaganda as are all the -isms people are so fanatically fighting for.
 
Hot-fucking-air LOL
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 8:35am
BTW: It's never a race or a "nation" which is "bad", as we define it. It's ALWAYS individual people. Sometimes they come in a group. But it's NEVER a whole people. Media only simplifies...and people believe it. It was always like that. The guy in the disco in Tel Aviv has probably nothing in common with the guy who laments on the wall in Jerusalem. As has the ordinary Muslim wherever with the delusional guy who follows Saudi Wahhabia in Syria.
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 12:47pm
Thanks for your reply Stone-Eater.
Pardero Added Apr 12, 2018 - 12:57pm
Stone-Eater,
We are in agreement.
I suppose I was being overly apologetic.
We do have hardcore Neo-cons on this site. The seem to be leaving Setacros alone.
Tom C. Purcell Added Apr 12, 2018 - 2:18pm
Well, you said the word 'Jew' so that makes you an anti-Semite.  Notify the ADL ;).
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 4:00pm
Pard
 
What exactly defines a Neo-con in America ? I wonder if it matches the same here in Europe.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 4:03pm
Tom
 
Don't you ever dare to say the word "Helvetian" here ! If you do, I will out you as a racist against any tribe which is related to the Germans but not 100% German and therefore inferior LOL
Tom C. Purcell Added Apr 12, 2018 - 5:17pm
LOL.  Ok, and I insist upon being called an Authentic American, for now - which is different than Native American...  I'll be very offended somehow. ;)
Pardero Added Apr 12, 2018 - 6:39pm
Stone-eater,
Neo-conservative means different things to different people.
To some, it means a big spending fake conservative that is only conservative on the usual populist social issues.
 
To others, it is code for dual citizens and Ashkenazis.
 
A lot of 'amen corner' Christians are Neo-cons. Southern Baptists worry about abortion but want to bomb born babies in th Middle East, or let Yemeni babies starve.
 
Some define Neo-cons as Johnson Democrats. Pro-war and pro-social spending.
 
I tend to call all chicken hawks, Neo-cons, whether they pander to minorities and gays, or they pander to Evangelicals and gun owners.
 
I use it as a derogeratory term. Most Neo-cons dislike the label. 
I also enjoy calling them fake conservatives. I really really like reminding them that the Founders warned against foreign entanglements.
 
I am a paleo-conservative (with some idiosyncracies). I consider myself in the tradition of those that opposed the Great War.
Pardero Added Apr 12, 2018 - 6:45pm
Stone-eater,
I am just a truck driver. MEFOBILLS could give you a superior definition.
By the way, your English is better than many of my fellow Americans.
Did I tell you that I love Nena?
One of my favorites is a pretty little song called Weisses Schiff.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 8:52pm
Tom
 
You're an asshole and you know it LOL Fucking US immigrant :-)))
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:03pm
Pard
 
I am just a truck driver
 
Sure. I do believe that anytime. And I'm Zweistein no problem LOL
 
My English is WB English, but thanks to "me yeers in down unda and me sheela who told me some woods in rousin' I sorta could tellin meself what I need ey."
 
But I was always cool in languages. Don't ever ask me anything in mathematics. My mother told me: You're a boy ! Why don't you understand math ?? I said; Sorry honey, no fish tonite, Get a shower (joke....) LOL
Stone-Eater Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:07pm
BTW: I can't drive a truck. I can only sit in the back with a big fucking amp and play some Grand Funk or Cactus Blues Rock LOL
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:08pm
This is my last attempt at posting.  Several replies to others have "earned" an error warning, despite trying to avoid possible trigger words.
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:10pm
OK that went through, so I'll paste a previous comment.  If it fails I won't be back.
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:10pm
Stone-Eater. (Excuse all * words, but I couldn't post.)
 
Neocon is the same everywhere, though of degrees, like every other ideology, which of course includes what are commonly called "religions", but belief systems in general.  The key being a state of mind which holds firm to whatever is believed, i.e. religiosity. 
 
Neoliberals are close "cousins" to Neoconservatives and hark back to late 18th Century attempts to describe the economic system (C*pitalism) that was emerging out of the Industrial Revolution in England, nominally begun about 1750.  Manufacturing was replacing Mercantilism, i.e. trading commodities like spices, tea, timber and so on.
 
Of course there was no clean break and Mercantilism continues.  The merchants also accumulated c*pital in the form of ships, warehouses, money, workforces, etc., so C*pitalism wasn't new either, but required greater concentrations for factories and manufacturing equipment, so men like Adam Smith tried to describe the emerging complexity. 
 
By the way a few years later, say from1820, far from being "the father of s*cialism or c*mmunism", Karl M*rx' main intent was to describe C*pitalism, hence his opus "Das Kapital" which is a difficult read.  He actually didn't think much of nascent s*cialist and c*mmunitarian movements - he refused to join any - and regarded C*pitalism as the "true revolutionary force" : see the "C*mmunist Manifesto".  This is important for Neoliberalism.
 
Present day neocons and neo-libs hark back to Adam Smith and a false belief that "true C*pitalism" was described by Adam Smith and practiced during the early 19th Century, with a focus on private ownership of the means of production (and everything else at an extreme, like some Libertarians who are essentially Liberals in 19th Century economic terms).  This is important and ties in with individualism versus collectivism, or various degrees of s*cialism, which advocate various levels of state/public ownership.  This, in simple terms, is the basis for most of the political/economic conflicts of the 20th Century, e.g. between F*scism (total ownership of the state by private corporations), versus extreme S*cialism (total ownership by the state).  The USA is basically f*scist (well who owns Congress, e.g. the MIC).  Russia is now middle of the road, China has "liberalised" a lot and nearly all former moderate s*cialist countries have been damaged or destroyed, such as European countries (under sustained pressure), Persia, Chile, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, nearly Syria and more, by war or regime change.
 
I am further clarifying my own understanding as I write, trying to validly simplify what has become an increasing mess and muddle, ideologically and in other ways.
 
Let's be clear:  Liberalism has nothing much necessarily to do with liberal-mindedness, tolerance, understanding, compassion, forgiveness, etc..
 
During the 19th Century in England (where it all pretty much started) the emerging Conservative and Liberal Parties were on the same page economically, i.e. in favour of private ownership, free enterprise, free trade and competition.  Where they differed was that Conservatives were on the side of "old money" and traditions like the monarchy (I am simplifying), whereas Liberals were more on the side of "new money" and newer forms of parliamentary  governance.  S*cialists didn't have much of a say until the early 20th Century, though trades unions had formed, along with cooperative movements and developed ideologies had emerged, based significantly, but not only on M*rx - who actually didn't have a lot to say about it, especially not C*mmunism, which such as L*nin, St*lin and Tr*tsky developed as a future utopia to be reached by an extreme form of s*cialism, i.e. virtually total state ownership of the means of production.  But that's partly another story.
 
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Western Industrial Civilisation developed and spread world-wide (by now), with many countries adopting partly s*cialist policies (including the US) like degrees of state ownership, health services, public schooling, pension schemes and welfare systems.  But there was always a bit of a backlash which began to fully emerge in the US by the late 1940s.  Leo Straus, an ex-Tr*tskyist, started the Chicago School at Chicago University.  He retained the 'principle' of permanent revolution/war which Tr*tsky advocated for s*cialism leading to C*mmunism, but flipped it to C*pitalism, presumably drawing on Marx' contradictory line that C*pitalism is "the true revolutionary force" (which it is, when you think about it, whereas s*cialism is an attempt to mend the social ties "broken asunder" by "Free Trade", "Free Enterprise", competition, etc. - see the "M*ni
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:11pm
Made it!!!  No idea what stopped me previously.  Hope it's worth it for y'all, from sunny Australia.
Setacros Added Apr 12, 2018 - 9:54pm
Back again.  Sorry, but the last couple of paragraphs of what I wrote did not paste, but it'll have to do, unless someone wants some clarification?
Gerrilea Added Apr 13, 2018 - 11:02am
Setacros--- Thank you and welcome aboard.  You'll find WB has a character limit in postings, what it is, I don't know.  While I'm new here as well, I've found that if many people are posting at the same time, it gets "confused" and things disappear sometimes.
 
Great summary, I couldn't have done better. I just discussed PNAC, their members and their stated goals.  Their goal was 7 countries originally but it's more like 9 and counting.  I guess they threw in a couple extra for "bonus points" in their Game of Risk.  I never understood that their final intended acquisition was Russia.
 
If you follow the UN and the side "arrangements" our nations make, it paints a completely different picture.  The US & Canada have a policing agreement, in case of an "emergency".  The US & Russia have similar agreements. 
 
They are creating their New World Order, right under our noses.
 
George R-- You don't have to drive far to see what their goals are.
 
Georgia Guidestones
 
Their first listed goal is to keep humanity under 500,000 million.
 
 
Gerrilea Added Apr 13, 2018 - 11:07am
Opps...the final number should be 500 million...got carried away with the zero's...
Setacros Added Apr 13, 2018 - 2:26pm
Gerrilea:  Thanks for that.  You've added some points I might have made, or partly did make in my missing paragraphs, plus some extras which I did not know, such as "side arrangements" (I wonder if any UN 'agreements' amount to anything now, um).
 
I was getting frustrated with failed postings.  I'm not very fast these days (74) and it takes me quite a while to put a succinct post together, so completely losing a couple - one on explaining modern political Zionism - was discouraging.  If expected I would have copied, as with this slightly botched one.  Thanks.
Gerrilea Added Apr 13, 2018 - 3:51pm
Setacros-- Compose your writings on Open Office or MS Word, then copy and paste it into the comment section. I do this with the "articles" I've written as well.  Just to make sure I have a copy.  One I can go to and edit and add stuff, delete. rewrite...etc.  That way you don't have to wait for the site to load, you can compose at your leisure.
 
Setacros Added Apr 13, 2018 - 5:33pm
Yes I know that you are correct.  I sometimes use Notepad effectively, but usually my comments are short and I forget when writing something of essay length.  Duh.  Slow learner, or just getting forgetful?
Stone-Eater Added Apr 13, 2018 - 5:46pm
Setacros
 
Thanks for all that, gotta digest it first, and also thanks to Pard for the help to get out of the -ism jungle :-)
 
Since there seems to be an Aussie mate again - catch ya, but downstream creek :-)
Robert Burk Added Apr 16, 2018 - 6:20am
War and conflict is created over injustice, real or perceived. Period. For 6000 years we have labored under lies that produce injustices and so we have had war and more injustice. The reality is, until we reverse these lies and start again with institutions and social systems that erase 6000 years of false ideologies we will never have peace. Three major lies... our ideas about ownership, the Double Entry Bookkeeping system and our belief that money is an asset. 
 
Robert Burk Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:32am
Nothing has changed. Same problem, same answers. Social injustice created by our most cherished systems. The free market is a market in which everything has price and everything with a price can be bought and sold, the only solution is pacifarianism, not a free market but a peoples market,, owned by the people for the benefit of the people.