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I know, there's a lot of discussion going around here about the "holocaust". And when people think about a holocaust, we automatically think about a genocide. But wait....holocaust = Jews, Genocide = whoever. That's called "framing". You take one specific word and put such a weight on that in connection with one specific event that this event is weighed much higher than all other ones which were, or are, when seen realistically, not less brutal and inhuman. Such an example is "holocaust". (c) The Media.


It diminishes all other "holocausts" that happened. Because Holocaust has become in a pervert sense a BRAND.




Here is an example of another holocaust. 1 million deaths in 100 days. Not even the Germans can topple that. It's a long article, but well worth reading it. There's a LOT of such articles around but ALL of them show the role which we, Europeans, and also Americans (because we're "brothers in spirits") played, and still play.


The latest example is Syria.


I mean, when we get to the bottom of ALL holocausts and wars, we always come to the same conclusion: The stronger is the one who gets "le filet", the weaker one has to bow head or is killed. We're animals. Never forget that. 


Since the 15th century, we Europeans thought that we're the ones who know it all, and when the UK invented Eugenics late in the 19th century, we were convinced that all other races are inferior dumb assholes, we have to bring them our "god", and due to the fact that Guttenberg invented printing and Edison brought us light bulbs, we thought we're no. 1. The German "Aryans" followed that UK Eugenics invention readily, as did the Americans....




But in fact, even back then, in the Middle Ages, our "great civilization" was based on the wealth of others we knighted and killed for their resources, be it the gold of the Inkas or the iron ore of the Africans. And in order to arrive there, we KILLED. And we haven't stopped since. And now, we're the ones who want to tell all the people who have such a history what "humanism", "tolerance" and "freedom" is ? Furthermore, there are people who told me:


Well, they wouldn't have known what to do with their natural richness anyway. Huh ? It was THEIR fucking land and we didn't have a thing to do there. As hasn't the US in the Middle East today, by the way.


That's how holocausts and genocides start. 




You see, even people who have suffered holocausts THEMSELVES are unable to learn. 


In fact, if it's Armenia, the Jews, Ruanda, Sudan or ANY other genocide: It's always a result of a completely fucked up, inhuman policy of some stronger ones who create the CONDITIONS for never ending wars and genocides decades or centuries before the actual crisis start.


Check the borders of the ME and of Africa for a start, and compare it to the tribes and races who live there, and you will see that ALL the countries from Togo to Syria are artificial countries created by colonization and accepted by today's leaders and powerhouses until today.


I ask you: Why don't the Kurds, Fulani, or the Berbers have an own country ? These are races of more than 10 million people each. They are persecuted and killed until today for their struggle for independence.


Maybe not 1 million in 100 days, but small numbers over a time equal a big number one day.


Maybe also the truth is simple: Some are more "equal" than others....


Morgoth Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:19pm
Great article.  I added my “like,” we can talk more about it later.  I’m a tad busy tonight.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:24pm
Just had the urge to hammer that into the keyboard. Catch you later.
Tom C. Purcell Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:36pm
Anti-Semite here!  Call the ADL right away!  Stone E is defaming the Jewish Hollywoodcost by mentioning actual genocides of which there is no dispute!
But seriously, good point, Stone!
Dino Manalis Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:40pm
I understand what you're saying, but I don't undervalue the victims of any genocide or holocaust.  We should remember each and every humanitarian disaster independently and with respect.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 18, 2018 - 5:43pm
Just wanted to make some points clear. If that makes me an anti-semite, some people have a problem of perception......
BTW: Maybe some people should try to find out what "semite" means, and they should also try to find out where the resources for their dullphone and computer come from...when it comes to war for resources (and SLOW genocide)....
When one can read, he has an advantage LOL
Pardero Added Apr 18, 2018 - 6:24pm
This is a persuasive and powerful article. Your carefully illustrated points, should give pause to those who wish to condemn others from the past, while covering their eyes to the present.
James Travil Added Apr 18, 2018 - 6:40pm
It's gutsy to write an article about these things in today's world even here Stone. I'm glad to see that you are up to it. I agree with the premise, and I don't think that recognizing other holocausts devalues the most well known one. 
Neil Lock Added Apr 18, 2018 - 6:49pm
Stone-Eater: In my view, it all comes down to the existence of political states. The "strong" in power in a state have "rights" to make laws to bind people, to tax people as they see fit, and to make wars, among much else. And they are not to be held responsible for the effects of what they do; it's called "sovereign immunity." That's why holocausts can happen. And, if they decide they and their state are strong enough to go gung-ho into someone else's land, they'll do just that. That's what colonialism was all about. And the invasions of Iraq, Syria... you name them.
Myself, I have no doubt that the root of the problem is the political system, devised by Plato, and whose latest incarnation was created in the 16th century by a gentleman called Jean Bodin in an attempt to shore up the power of the French king. The political state has to go. The two most important questions, for me, then become: (1) What do we replace it with? (2) How do we get from here to there?
Joe Chiang Added Apr 18, 2018 - 6:52pm
Stone, you nailed this word.  Perhaps it has become identified with the Jews who were exterminated in WWII, what 7 million.  That was so horrific and those numbers so enormous, that the definition 2 as you pointed out going to large Jewish mass murders.
However, there have been many words that have been captured by various causes and groups, for example GAY.
The reverse has also transpire, a brand name coming to represent the generic, for example Kleenex and Band Aide.  Great article.
Pardero Added Apr 18, 2018 - 7:09pm
Neil Lock,
That is a particularly valuable comment, and timely in relation to current debates in the US, concerning the power to wage war, and what constitutes waging war. Although propaganda is often used to rally the people to war, and sometimes genocide, The Powers That Be cannot always wait for the propaganda to work, and must launch pre-emptive interventions and wars.
Albert Solomon Added Apr 18, 2018 - 8:02pm
I think you nailed it, and I could only wish that I could write as eloquently as your self and a lot of people on here. Holocaust covers so much, and all wars not just some are always based in politics. I think a good example of what you touched on is what happened in Bosnia. The seeds were planted for the atrocities of the 90’s during WWII. Hitler aligned his armies with the Muslims even though he did trust them but allowed the exterminations of a million Bosnians to accomplish his goals. Some say the that the Bosnians had a day of reckoning with the Muslims. Depends on what a person chooses to believe even when faced with the truth.
In our own history in the USA we don’t like to look at the truth about our own war between the states. I listen to people talk about ole honest Abe. The original lying consummate politician who brought this country to war against each other and used the abolition of slavery as the excuse. His intentions of saving the Union was spot on what needed to be done but he knew brother would not fight brother over the country. So, he beat the drum about slavery to get people moved emotionally and not listen or think for themselves. While we were fighting this war to free slaves, he and congress had placed a bounty on Indian scalps.We never here of the Holocaust concerning the native American even though they were slaughtered all over this country.
Wars only happen when a country can no longer support its self or powerful people want what another country possess. The wars we see are only the beginning because more people want what we have less of now than ever.
Just my thoughts and opinion. Don’t make me right nor does it make me wrong. And I hope that I understood the point you were making.
Pardero Added Apr 18, 2018 - 8:07pm
Albert Solomon,
Just my opinion, but you seem to have very much to offer, and I look forward to your thoughts in your own articles.
Albert Solomon Added Apr 18, 2018 - 8:22pm
Pardero, thanks but I don't do articles. I am just not that good of a writer to convey my thoughts clearly. I enjoyed reading more than writing because I like to hear different views on subjects. I some times throw in a thought here or there but I don't argue beliefs and because my beliefs mean nothing. I generally comment on feeds that I believe the writer to be a somewhat reasonable person.  I like living only in facts as often as I can find them. I have in the past had people that I agree with on something they are saying indict me thinking I was attacking them.
Thanks again for your comment!
Adolf Dick McMenace Added Apr 18, 2018 - 10:02pm
Stone-Eater, I totally agree with you. Good post, and it addresses an important topic. As far as I'm concerned, that's what truly makes a "great" power - a nation and/or government that is responsible for millions of deaths and staggering destruction, and has the capability of killing and destroying millions more. If there was a "Fortune 500" of mass murder and genocide, most of the nations of the world would be listed in it. People, generally speaking, are usually pretty fucked toward one another, and there have been many, many, MANY holocausts throughout human history. Many of them appear to be "good guys"; this line from the movie Breaker Morant says much:
Lt. Col. Denny: [regarding Kitchener's order to shoot any Boers taken prisoner] Do you really believe that Lord Kitchener, a man venerated throughout the world, would be capable of issuing an order of such barbarity?
Major Thomas: I don't know, sir. But I do know that orders that one would consider barbarous have already been issued in this war. Before I was asked to defend these soldiers, I spent some months destroying Boer farmhouses, burning their crops, herding their women and children into stinking refugee camps where thousands of them have already died from disease. Now these orders WERE issued, sir! And soldiers like myself and these men here have had to carry them out however damned reluctantly!
Pardero Added Apr 18, 2018 - 10:07pm
Michael B.
Thanks for that movie quote. It is a perfect addition to the article.
Adolf Dick McMenace Added Apr 18, 2018 - 10:41pm
Pardero, you're most welcome! Breaker Morant is IMO one of the finest war movies ever made, so credit should go to Bruce Beresford et al, lol.
Pardero Added Apr 18, 2018 - 10:47pm
Michael B.
Your opinion carries much weight with me. I am not a movie person, but Breaker Morant will soon be joining my modest collection of movies, that happens to include The Four Feathers, which I found worthwhile, as I identified with the main character.
Adolf Dick McMenace Added Apr 18, 2018 - 11:08pm
Pardero, I'm honored! I think you're a good dude, too! I've never heard of that movie; being the pervert that I usually am, I had a train of thought on the employment of four feathers, lol.
EXPAT Added Apr 18, 2018 - 11:24pm
This is the same bunch of commentators that call the death of 3000 innocents on 9-11 a fraud, or a conspiracy by the MIC. Excuse me if I don't give it much credit.
This is a vain attempt to diminish THE Holocaust, by naming every slaughter of a large group a holocaust. Nothing new here, except the naming of Tribal warfare between Tutsi and Hutu, a holocaust. Same ethnicity, different family.
The Nazi's took the slaughter of 6 million or more people to a new level of death by torture, over work and starvation to such an inhuman level of sadism, that no other killing comes even close to the level of depravity.
How can you say natural resources belong to any one group, just because they are there?
All this crap is for simpletons who do not understand the world, and never been away from home.
Yes, I know Stone went to Africa, but he learned nothing about life! Just how to make promises he can't keep. DELUSION is a wonderful thing! It makes Google heads think they have knowledge. 
Pardero Added Apr 19, 2018 - 12:06am
Michael B.
The Four Feathers is kind of a war movie, and kind of a pacifist movie. Something for everybody. I was impressed with Heath Ledger's performance, before he was somewhat of a household name.
I have reason to believe that you will get more out of it than most.
Katharine Otto Added Apr 19, 2018 - 12:43am
Good article, but I see it has changed no one's mind about anything.  As long as we believe we are violent animals, we will act like violent animals, either personally, or by proxy.
Neil Lock,
Good point that the political state has to go, and I also wonder what to replace it with.  As long as people believe they need government "over the people" to control the other guy, they will get government that absorbs or destroys everything in its path.  In the US, there's the subtle perception that all blessings come from the government.  While many are in the habit of complaining, like spoiled children, you don't hear any people advocating overthrow or active resistance.  
Neil Lock Added Apr 19, 2018 - 3:41am
Katharine: You have brought up a very important point. There seems to be a current of thought among many, even here, that thinks that humans - "we" is the word they like to use - are by nature bad, brutal and violent. Myself, I disagree with that idea; the way I see it, humans are naturally good, but there are among us some that let themselves become corrupted, and cease to behave as humans.
The more corrupt the political system becomes, and the less likely those that commit atrocities are to be held to account, the more incentive there is for the ethically weak to behave like brutal animals rather than human beings. Part of the solution must be to establish a standard of justice that does not let these criminals get away with their crimes.
Doug Plumb Added Apr 19, 2018 - 4:40am
re "The Nazi's took the slaughter of 6 million or more people to a new level of death by torture, over work and starvation to such an inhuman level of sadism, that no other killing comes even close to the level of depravity."
  The Bolsheviks exceeded the NAZI's by tenfold, same with the Chinese in their "great leap forward", both financed by Wall St. As holocaust's go, the Jewish one doesn't really compare to the really big and cruel ones that they don't teach in history classes.
  People haven't had the Bolshevik Revolution continuously shoved down their throats like the holocaust.
  To wonder why this is is to start asking why people do not even know this and with that question the idea of conspiracy emerges.
re "This is the same bunch of commentators that call the death of 3000 innocents on 9-11 a fraud, or a conspiracy by the MIC. Excuse me if I don't give it much credit."
There is no possible way the official version on this can be true. There was never an actual investigation, only a report, by an agency that had no experience or responsibility for investigating this sort of thing. That agency didn't even investigate the third building that had collapsed that day. Mainstream media had announced that third building as having collapse 20 minutes before the collapse actually happened. There is no possible way of defending the official version of 9-11. NIST has since been forced to announce that wtc 7 collapsed at freefall speed, which means there were explosions in the buildings to knock them down.
re "Maybe also the truth is simple: Some are more "equal" than others...." Yes.
Morgoth Added Apr 19, 2018 - 7:18am
I got a chance to read your article about Rwanda, Stone.  Very interesting.  I’m going to be tied up today but I will comment more later.
Michael B.:
Breaker Morant is an all-time classic.  
Ian Thorpe Added Apr 19, 2018 - 9:56am
To introduce a little levity Stony, copyright on the word holocaust would have first been asserted by some ancient Bubble and Squeak as holokauston, meaning 'the whole sacrifice'.Therefore the copyright is long expired, which probably accounts for the sloppy and inaccurate ways the word gets used now.
The Bubbles were keen on sacrifice of course, they encouraged people to take animals to the temple and the priests would burn the intestines and heads but lightly grill the filet, chops etc. and eat them.

This pissed off the people who made sacrifices so to spite the priests they would make their offering a holocaust and insist the whole thing was burned.
The gods did not like this because burned meat is horrible, but Hermes, smartest of the gods came up with an idea. He told his followers he would only accept sausages as sacrifice because when you make a burnt offering the meat stays on the barbie and the scent goes up to the gods.
Hermes reasoned that sausages smell great when they're being fried, with onions and a touch of garlic, in a little fat, but as everyone knows they are made out of lips and arseholes, eyeball, brain, fat, gristle and att the stuff we wouldn't eat if we knew we were going to eat it.
As a god Hermes believed he should get the best part of the offering and the priests should get the lips and arseholes. And with sausages the best part is the smell. So while the other gods became grumpy because they got the holocaust and were eventually forgotten by their followers, Hermes enjoyed his sausages, became Hermes Trismegistos and his teachings inspired the arts and sciences.
The moral of this story is if you are going to offer a sacrifice don't burn the sausages.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 19, 2018 - 9:57pm
Thanks guys for the comments and interest :) Pretty busy at the moment but I'll surely respond !
EXPAT Added Apr 20, 2018 - 1:51am
There is no possible way the official version on this can be true. There was never an actual investigation, only a report, by an agency that had no experience or responsibility for investigating this sort of thing. That agency didn't even investigate the third building that had collapsed that day. Mainstream media had announced that third building as having collapse 20 minutes before the collapse actually happened. There is no possible way of defending the official version of 9-11. NIST has since been forced to announce that wtc 7 collapsed at freefall speed, which means there were explosions in the buildings to knock them down.
Doug. Sorry to burst your bubble, but 9-11 was thoroughly investigated by top Engineers from around the world. It was all documented In hundreds of technical papers. All materials and methods used in Construction of WTC were investigated.
The plane crashes were also investigated. Would anyone in their right mind, think the death of 3000 people, and the loss of 5 Aircraft would go uninvestigated by the WORLD, who lost citizens in the tragedy.
Hundreds of company's had a stake in knowing what exactly took place, as thousands of Law Suites were sure to follow!
I believe Popular Mechanics did a summary for the general public, But I was working at reconstructing Midway Airport in Chicago, at the time, and each report was the topic of discussion, especially the Y support design, and decision to not fireproof the top floors.
wsucram15 Added Apr 20, 2018 - 1:53am
SEF..good article.  But you know genocide or in the example of  Germany / Jews  and holocaust is a rule of thumb now..it grabs headlines.
We are as human beings violent. If you kill ten of my guys..I have to strike back and kill 1,000 of yours, men, women and children for the world to see and we tune in, over and over and over.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Apr 20, 2018 - 6:36am
Stone-Eater, I totally agree with you. Good post
High praise indeed. 
Jeffry Gilbert Added Apr 20, 2018 - 6:36am
Thanks for this article Stone
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 9:47am
Thanks a lot.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 9:53am
it grabs headlines.
It sure does. And not only that. Here in Europe it has become a part of "political correctness" to NOT question it. And the same counts for NOT mentioning other genocides in the media. Why ?
Because if the public WOULD have the possibility and the time (?) for it, they would see that we are largely responsible for those other genocides which go largely unnoticed.
I'm neither a denier of THE holocaust, but I do in fact question some stuff, because I see that it's not really about n million dead Jews. It's about profiting from that event and justifying stuff which has been done since then.
When my family gets killed by people that doesn't mean that my grandchildren kill others and use the own history as justification. That don't add up.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:00am
A good question. What do we replace the political (economic) state with ?
Dave Volek has some good ideas about that. But you see, in my view, it will never be replaced by anything that will serve all of us in a fair way. Humans in their deepest structure are not fair. Or, at least, they are only fair as long as they can AFFORD it. 
And as all animals (or most) we are a herd species that follow leaders, be it Trump, Gates, the Dalai Lama, Mandela or Putin. And by following a leader we don't need to USE OUR OWN BRAIN. Today's leaders are the media and the politicians which do what the real leaders, the economy, wants them to do.
And it is NOT the intention for any leader to produce n sheep which question his leadership....
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:01am
....and that blind following can result in......genocide.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:02am
Yes, I know Stone went to Africa, but he learned nothing about life!
No, I didn't. Glad that you know better than me. Congrats, Expat :-)
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:04am
Thanks - at least we found something we can both agree on, you fucking Yank Wank LOL
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:10am
As long as we believe we are violent animals, we will act like violent animals, either personally, or by proxy.
It's not a question of believing. Most would disagree on it, but it is fact. Can be seen on a daily basis in places where war happens. Not only that. Here in Switzerland we have a lot of poor people (mostly they are not really visible). Here in Winterthur, where I live, we have a place called RestEssBar - three big fridges where food whose date is expired is put in by the stores for free distribution.
And often people almost fight to get their hands on it first. It begins with little steps and ends...well.....;-)
Tom C. Purcell Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:10am
The most ironic aspect of the application of the word, "holocaust" is that few people that espouse gas chambers even know the definition of the word.  Once you learn the definition in it's origins - holocaust; the whole burnt offering (Greek).  The holocaust occurrences in WWII were the Allied firebombing of German cities and Japanese cities.  Terrorism was perfected by the Allies in WWII with the attacks of incendiary bombs on highly concentrated cities and towns.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:13am
BTW: Breaker Morant sounds good. Gotta watch that.
Stone-Eater Added Apr 20, 2018 - 10:15am
Thanks for commenting, although I didn't want to focus on THE holocaust and its history but on what happened AFTER. And - I think you're right about Stalin and Mao, by the way.