The Iran deal did not end their nuclear ambitions, nor did it stop the missile advances!

Iran WANTS the deal, Russia wants the deal, China, France, Germany, UK, and the EU all want the deal!

 

Why would they all abandon the deal......?

 

Now there are a couple of options.


One would be to do nothing, let Trump impose sanctions.


If Trump imposes tough sanctions against companies doing business with Iran, then the deal will probably fall apart...BUT THEY DON'T WANT THAT!

 

Another option would be for those countries to renegotiate a tighter deal with Iran in an effort to keep Trump from reimposing sanctions.

 

The ball is in Iran's court now, cave into a better deal and keep trading with the rest of the world, or go back to pre-deal sanctions by countries preferring trade with the US vs Iran!

Comments

James Travil Added May 14, 2018 - 5:17pm
The title of this article is false. We had inspectors keeping track of those things. Trump killed that. The only logical conclusion is Trump broke the deal so that Iran will be free to build nukes. Dumb as all hell. 
Stone-Eater Added May 15, 2018 - 2:47am
James
 
Right on. Iran has to be provoked to the max so the US can declare an eventual attack for regime change as "defense". But then....defense against WHOM ? Defense can only be used as a reason when one's OWN country is being attacked.
 
But apparently people don't understand proper English in Anglophone countries anymore LOL
MEFOBILLS Added May 17, 2018 - 2:40pm
The inspection regime on Iran was pretty thorough.  If you don't want Iran to NOT make nukes, then letting the inspection process continue would have been the right choice.   
 
Missiles have dual use, they can be for offense or defense.   So, if the real concern is Iranian missiles, then Trump threw the baby out with the bathwater.   Iran is allowed to develop missiles and means to defend herself, the same right that any country should have.
 
Trump really screwed the pooch with this one.  He has been Zion's lackey since election on the Iranian issue.  
MEFOBILLS Added May 17, 2018 - 2:42pm
sorry bad english.  If you want Iran to be a non nuclear power, then inspection regime continuance would have been the right thing to do.  This Iran deal was probably the one thing that Obama did that was correct.  
Tubularsock Added May 19, 2018 - 12:15pm
Iran nuclear ambitions have NOTHING to do with the Trump decision. The neocons years ago created a list of countries the U.S. MUST control and/or destabilize in order to control the world and Iran is on the list.
 
Pretty simple.
 
In truth, if China and Russia play their trading regulations right they may be able to minimize the economic pressure control the U.S. has over Europe.
 
But even if that happens the U.S. may still march forward toward war with Iran.
 
It should be noted that it really doesn’t matter which party is in control the PLAN marches forward.
 
And the American public will be brought into line with another false flag 9/11 event.
 
Same plan as last time.
 
What ever happened to creativity?
Dino Manalis Added May 19, 2018 - 12:33pm
Merkel said the nuclear deal was imperfect, the goal is still to repair it, but Russia's and China's cooperation would be instrumental in containing and pressuring Tehran to change.  We don't want war, but Iran is a troublemaker and its backward theology should be condemned for holding back the country's modernization and peace in the Middle East.  Like Kim, maybe Trump ought to meet Rouhani to improve relations and peace in the Middle East.
John Minehan Added May 19, 2018 - 1:14pm
The advantage to the current deal is that it gives the current Iranian government the opportunity to fail before Iran becomes a nuclear power . . . .
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 7:21am
We don't want war, but Iran is a troublemaker and its backward theology should be condemned for holding back the country's modernization and peace in the Middle East. 
 
Yep. Just like the US ally Saudi Arabia. Bomb Saudia Arabia too then. And since Israel is the new best friend of Saudi Arabia, bomb them too. In fact, just bomb everybody to make sure.
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 7:23am
.....sorry, forgot the smiley. But I guess any smiley would be unreasonable.....
David Montaigne Added May 20, 2018 - 8:05am
European leadership today appears to be a handful of traitorous puppets controlled by an elite that is pro-Islam and anti-Europe.  Those "leaders" want Iran to have nuclear weapons, as did Obama - who by the way, was described in detail in 17th century Persian prophecy... I know most people don't take prophecy seriously, but in my recent books I explain the history and prophecy pointing to horrible times for Europe and the world soon due to current trends regarding European handling of Islam.
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 8:13am
Shia Iran becoming the dominant force in the Dar-al-Islam is not the worst of results.  As a minority view in Islam it could never form a viable Caliphate, as something like IS or AQ or some other Salafist Sunni group could.
 
That is to the absolute advantage of the PRC, Russia and the US.
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 8:57am
European leadership today appears to be a handful of traitorous puppets controlled by an elite that is pro-Islam and anti-Europe.
 
It is, but controlled by NATO/EU centralist forces/industry. Not pro-Islam, but an Europe which is on the brink of financial and "mental" collapse (racism is growing) due to a planned "immigration" by these forces does become a weak economic force. That's the main reason behind it.
 
The driving force behind it is of course the US. Avoid a détente between Russia and Europe in any way. No good for US business...
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 9:01am
BTW:
 
Those "leaders" want Iran to have nuclear weapons
 
What a fucking bullshit. 
 
1. Has ONE country the right to forbid another country to have the same weapons as it has ?
 
NO. There is something like the UN Charta. Not that this would be of any interest to the US regime.
 
2. Has ONE country already used nuclear weapons as the ONLY country ? Yes. And does this country therefore can play moral judge ?
 
NO.
 
If you don't get that, get some IQ testing.
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 9:06am
Russia is part of Europe. 
 
In 1991, Russia should have been brought into the EU and NATO and the US and Canada should have left.
 
Russia's role in Europe  illustrates LBJ's old comment that "I'd rather have him inside the tent p!$$ing out than outside the tent p!$$ing in."
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 9:07am
BTW2:
 
IF the US and their slaves European NATO states would
 
a) not create wars all over and produce therefore refugees which come to Europe (btw: we Swiss had to absorb more than 200'000 ex-Yugo war refugees, mostly islamic Kosovars, and guess which group commits the most crime here)
 
 
and
 
b) would treat Africa economically fair and not only exploit it using the puppet politicians they set up, profit and create economic refugees because there's NO jobs
 
....Europe would NOT have that "Islam" or general immigration problem.
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 9:19am
My guess is this will be the "Century of Africa" as the 20th Century was the "Century of Asia."
 
I think the PRC's "One Belt/One Road" initiative really sets the stage for that. 
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 9:30am
John
 
The US won't allow that new silk road to happen. Because if THAT works, and Africa gets its real share in world economy, the US is economically dead. Why ?
 
a) Because of their astronomic debt
b) the lack of proper education for most of people
c) their concentration on arms sales and war
d) BRICS and AIIB will end the US$ as world currency
 
The US won't give in. I'm 100% sure that they will prefer all-out nuclear war to giving up their status as world hegemon.
Don Allen Added May 20, 2018 - 10:05am
To Minehan.  It seems you are betting on a horse to go lame before it gets there. Now that's a gamble. 
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 10:22am
"The US won't allow that new silk road to happen."
 
I don't think the US can stop it.  It is too over-extended due to the GWOT and the 2008 Financial Crisis and too divided over Trump to stop it.  (Possibly, why Putin supported him?)
 
I also doubt One Belt/One Road will work out as planned.  PRC is also over-extended and Xi's getting an extension puts orderly success in doubt.  But if it works at all, it changes the World.
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 10:24am
"To Minehan.  It seems you are betting on a horse to go lame before it gets there. Now that's a gamble."
 
That really depends on how much you know about the horse and about where it is going and how it can get there. 
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 10:42am
John
 
And it would maybe allow us Europeans finally to say stop to NATO and US influence on our continent. I'm all for a tight cooperation with Russia and Asia in Europe. We not only share values with f.e. the Russians, but also geography.
 
The US is "over there". Let them terrorize their own continent and leave us alone LOL
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 10:44am
In 1991, Russia should have been brought into the EU and NATO and the US and Canada should have left.
 
Just - thanks. May more people get the brains to realize that :-)
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 10:58am
What role Russia will play in Europe has been one of the big questions, probably since Peter the Great and, certainly, since Czar Alexander got involved in the Napoleonic Wars.
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 11:05am
John
 
Of course they play a big role, only their size and the resources show it. But it's better for us to be on good terms with them. We deliver the knowledge, they deliver the material. For a start, anyway. But the US doesn't want that, although they have NOTHING TO DO here - that's what today's Europe thinks. We don't live in 1939 or 1945 but 2018.
 
Just like the Jews can't eternally demand reparation cash for the holocaust Europe can't kiss US feet eternally for having "saved us from Hitler". And even that is in a questionable fog of history. 
John Minehan Added May 20, 2018 - 11:11am
It would be better for the US, in the long run, to bring Russia into Europe.  It would stabilize Russia and likely energize the EU.
 
Further, it would make Russia and the EU a counterweight to the PRC in whatever system rolls out from "One Belt/One Road." 
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 11:16am
John
 
I agree to 100%. But the US is too afraid of a combined economic force Europe/Russia/Asia. That's why they would rather start WWIII that allow this. I tell you: If the US would NOT have that immense weapon arsenal, Europe would have give them the middle finger since.
 
But a partnership based on fear is NOT a good partnership. And that what NATO is now. And the EU is just an appendage of NATO in reality.
Michael B. Added May 20, 2018 - 11:52am
From what I understand, Iran was maintaining its nuclear program at a relatively low level, but after the invasion of Iraq, they kicked it into high gear, where it's been ever since.
Don Allen Added May 20, 2018 - 12:15pm
In fact, the EU is mostly a cooperative of countries desiring a totally peaceful future.  They've had enough of war.  However, with so many immigrants they are now inviting discontent inside their homes.  Asking Russia to join the EU is another risk, as Russia does not now nor has ever played by European rules.  Right now, the EU has trouble with iddy biddy Greece, who promises to be good tomorrow if only you give us more money today.  Russia would dominate the whole bunch, including Germany.  The only energy in Russia is energy, and their sometime and always oligarchy.  
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 12:26pm
However, with so many immigrants they are now inviting discontent inside their homes.
 
We don't "invite" them. They are a result of military adventures (Libya, Iraq, Syria) or economic exploitation (Africa).
 
It's not OUR fault what happens now. We Europeans fucked up half of the world from 1500 to 1900, and now the US has replaced us as the big empire-thirsty assholes. But we are the fathers of the US. Now, where do we go from there ?
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 12:29pm
Don
 
Russia is not interested to dominate Europe - not yet. They don't have the overall educational capacity for that. But rather have Russia as a dominator than the US. Why ? Because we live side by side and do communicate. With the US that's not possible. The US lives on weapons and christianity. We here have not really the same kind of ideology.
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 12:32pm
BTW: This is what we here in Europe find strange: The US is the land of technology and economic imagination and at the same time puts "god" into almost everything. Like the UK with their monarchy on one side and Monty Python on the other.
 
Anglophones seem in general to be a bit strange LOL
Don Allen Added May 20, 2018 - 12:44pm
With indigenous EU birth rates compared with extramural competition, it seems the proportions of those with surnames like Schwartz, Bleu, Rosi, and Verdi will live with diminished proportions in the decades ahead.
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 12:52pm
Don
 
Can be. But that's wanted too. If NOT Europe would make it more attractive and LESS expensive to have kids. That way we import thousands of refugees of whatever cause and prevent our own population to have kids. Remember: Europe is still a strong economic force. And by that "enforced immigration" we can be weakened to a point where we are no competitor anymore because we have hands full to keep peace and stability here.
 
Immigration is a weapon.
Don Allen Added May 20, 2018 - 12:54pm
Stone-Eater. 
I live in the US and at least not lately does it put God into everything - at least not what I see.  I'm relatively conservative where you'd think such stuff would emanate. Consider your sources, please.  The US military is nearly bankrupt and these days has trouble getting its jets off the ground.  Actually, if the EU believed what you say, they would invite the US out of NATO.  Works for me!  But of this, the the EU is terrified, if only for the resultant cost. 
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 12:56pm
BTW: It's only natural that Europe will be blackened ion the near future. Africa will have 2 billions shortly, and thanks to the pope and allah more kids are desired......
 
Now look at the map and compare Europe to Africa. See ? We have NO chance. The only chance is to try to integrate people into our society when they're babies and keep the rest out by tightening borders. IF the people want that.
 
I have no clear POV on that since I'm half-African by heart. But I see the reality here as well.
MEFOBILLS Added May 20, 2018 - 1:16pm
BTW: It's only natural that Europe will be blackened ion the near future. Africa will have 2 billions shortly, and thanks to the pope and allah more kids are desired......
 
(African's have always had high birthrates, the religions not-withstanding.)
 
Let's reverse this sentiment.   Europe will have 2 billion people, and more are desired.  They will spill out into the African continent, whitening it.  
 
It is wrong to displace blacks in their birthplace, in the same way it is wrong to displace whites in their birthplace.  
 
The reality will be a national fascist state arising in Europe, who will then herd up African's and/or kill them.  That is not a good outcome, and real Statesmen will not make excuses like "accept it or else."
 
Good fences make good neighbors, and the human animal is still captive to his evolutionary history.  No amount of virtue signalling and make believe change fundamentals.  
 
 
Stone-Eater Added May 20, 2018 - 1:36pm
MEFO
 
The reality will be a national fascist state arising in Europe, who will then herd up African's and/or kill them
 
Nope. I see it at the youth of today. They don't care about color but about hiphop stars or fast food. I see it daily where I live in Winterthur. We have more than 50% foreigners in our town, from Turkey to Somalia or Ethiopia to Congo and a lot of Brazil and Argentina.
 
No problem for the young. A good sign.
MEFOBILLS Added May 20, 2018 - 1:49pm
SE
Maybe you are right.  But, the long sweep of history has a different argument.  
Jeffry Gilbert Added May 21, 2018 - 6:44am
Nope. I see it at the youth of today. They don't care about color but about hiphop stars or fast food. 
 
I cringe when I see young Thais embracing hip-hop culture. Dressing like them, comporting like them, speaking like them even singing their awful music in Thai language. 
 
Revolting.
 
Stone-Eater Added May 21, 2018 - 3:42pm
Jeffry
 
It's our time....and remember how we were protesting against our parents LOL
Jeffry Gilbert Added May 22, 2018 - 12:14pm
remember how we were protesting against
 
This hip-hop stuff is nothing at all like what we were doing back in the day. We had Marvin Gaye and others. This crap today is gone in a matter of weeks. We had the twist they have twerking. Goddamn polka music is better than hip-hop and I hate polka. Our music made me want to love this hip-hop crap makes me want to fight. 
 
MEFOBILLS Added May 22, 2018 - 12:26pm
It is important to remember that the "international" wants to break down borders, language and culture.
 
If you immigrate large numbers of "foreigners" then your population becomes de-racinated. That means your link to ancestor history is broken.  As well, all of the cohesion and kinship that a population feels for its fellows is broken.  Your population then emerges into "low trust" and starts to malfunction.   Low trust means you look at your fellows not as your kin, but instead as an internal enemy.
 
At this point, the "international" can more easily inject itself as a parasite, to then take the land, minerals, and resources.  It also then emits hypnosis through owned press and media to keep the population in thrall.   An example is Europe where elite oligarchy is telling their population that they have to accept unlimited immigration.  Of course these immigrants are culturally alien, and the inevitable output is high friction.
 
Hip Hop is symbolic of the break down of culture.  It is mostly jungle music with rhythms only  It is a low form of music, and the message is often one of pathology.   Women twerking in the streets is symbolic of third wave feminism, which intends to break down family and lower the male role. 
 
And of course, if we look close enough, we find our ((parasitical)) friends promoting these frankfurt school cultural communist ideas. These ideas are funded by corporate finance, which takes its usury to then pass hypnosis. 
 
A lot of writer beat authors are merely regurgitating the hypnosis they have been programmed with since birth.