Today -- A More Gentle Planet

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The world turns and glides more gentle today. 

 

Most events on this planet, in a single day, do not have any noticeable effect -- singularly.  Perhaps one 24 hour period in a hundred years would set the trajectory of this globe on a new path which is more kind -- with a bit more hope.

Today, that event, one in a hundred years, happened.  

 

Now, I could be wrong as I have been in the past.  Being the cynic that I am, persistently critical of our innate and selfish human tendencies, I am projecting a future that perhaps is unbecoming of my 'normal' demeanor.  However, in spite of my predilection, I note here these extraordinary and hopeful events.

 

What events you might ask. 

Well.  Obviously, the meeting with N. Korea and USA.  In person.  In the flesh.  In peace.  A sixty-year war ended.  A country with millions of citizens begins its upward crawl -- emerging from a world of squalor and fear.  As millions of these citizens stare back at us through the barricades of their own government's oppression, with guant and weary eyes, they look at us with hope and for hope.  We, being the rest of the planet which has enjoyed and thrived under more democratic governments, also staring back with guarded jubilation -- restrained in case our hopes might be dashed by a careless word or careless action in these delicate first moments.

 

Surprising how many would regularly make dire predictions of doom but not recognize or acknowledge, in times like these, predictions of great hope and progress.  North Korea is now forever changed.  The old N. Korea is over.  N. Korea and S. Korea are united . . . only a matter of time.  In twenty years (or less) you will be able to buy your first N. Korean auto.  You will be able to buy a dishwasher in 2030 made in NK.  I may be off in my timeline and these events could be much sooner . . . but make no mistake, they will happen soon.

 

In the coming years what the world will discover about N. Korea is how devastated that country actually has become.  With years of isolation and suppression, unchecked by the world, we will discover a population barely able to support life-expectancy over 40.  We will discover an ecological nightmare from the testing of nuclear weapons.  An ecological disaster that may be on par with Chernobyl.  A disaster so great, N. Korea has realized that it needs the help of the world.

The world, in the coming years, will once again be reminded of how democracies and liberty and consumer-based economies bring wealth and prosperity to everyone.

 

I mark this day, with this text, and with hope.  A hope for N. Korea and a renewed hope in my fellow humans who would welcome a young dictator, with open arms, in the hour of his need.  If there are questions about humanity, whether human development occurs in peace or in war, let it be acknowledged that on this day the world found a better path, a better future, without one hostile shot fired -- and with billions of open arms for a young dictator and his weary people.

Comments

Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:08am
Flying Junior Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:27am
Remember that Trump threatened the dictator of NK with fire and fury.
 
As a resident of California, I thank the Goddess that Trump walked back his threats of MAD.
 
We already had peace if an armistice is close enough to peace.
 
I place no stock in Trump's meeting with the little guy.  Why was it over so soon?   As far as nothing gets worse between our two nations, we can rack it up as a nice apology after Trump threatening to annihilate the Korean Peninsula.
 
I can only guess that we will all very soon be buying Korean automobiles and electronics free of tariffs as the United Korea becomes the Hawaiian Riviera of Asia.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:50am
FJ, if everyone thought like you, we wouldn't have lasted this long.
 
You follow a cult and are headlong for more isolation and a bleak future for your members.  If at a time such as this you find no place to rejoice, without your cult drivel, you have become hate embodied.
Flying Junior Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:12am
I'm sorry.  But NK developed the H-Bomb as well as the ICBM capability to aim it at the U.S. all on Trump's watch.  Meanwhile Trump threatened the entire peninsula with fire and fury.
 
It is something of a waste of time to say the least.  Only thing is, the best that we can hope for is for Trump to waste as much time as possible.
 
Why are you convinced that Kim Jong-Un is ready to surrender his nuclear capabilities?  Am I missing something?  Are we to simply welcome him into the nuclear community?
 
Peace?  We have had peace since 1953.  Trump kids around like he will make NK rich.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:34am
Notice FJ that I never brought up Trump nor any particular political party.  That is because I believe we all had some role in bringing N. Korea to this point.
 
Specifically for you and your cult, I am thankful.  Because without your cult, we probably would not have Trump.  Without Trump's hardline on N. Korea, Kim would not have folded completely.  
 
What Trump and most intelligent people understand is that in order to denuclearize N. Korea we have to compel Kim with trust.  That means accepting his regime as it is and begin the work to build relationships.  The huge mistake our leaders have made in the past is expecting Kim to drop his weapons and then expect to build a relationship.  That is the retarded arrogance of past leadership in the USA.  This is YOUR retarded logic.  
 
Peace in the Korean peninsula?  Really?  Are you this self-centered?  Try some empathy for S. Koreans who have been living under the threat of nuclear attack with no means to retaliate themselves.  You call that peace?  Living in fear is not peace.
 
Kim will give up his nuclear program.  He has already started doing this in good faith.  He, as well, wants his war to end.  Time will tell, but you, as a progressive, should be thankful for any progress at this point.  Yet you discredit these recent events exposing your shallow view of the world, shallow values, and shallow intellect.
opher goodwin Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:50am
Well we can certainly rejoice at a step forward in what was a dire situation!
Flying Junior Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:56am
I am glad to have been of some assistance in your clarification of your premise.  I was mistaken to bring Trump into this discussion.
EXPAT Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:01am
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Ari Silverstein Added Jun 12, 2018 - 9:06am
While it can’t hurt to be hopeful, one could argue that by having nuclear weapons and launching missiles over Japan, an impoverished trouble-making country like North Korea can get a meeting with the POTUS and promises of free stuff.  So there are good reasons to have never met with Kim Jong-un.  I would also add that we have no idea what we’ll soon discover and where this will ultimately lead.  That being said, I’m happy they met. 
Ryan Messano Added Jun 12, 2018 - 9:31am
It’s good to be wary.  JFK, Nixon, and Reagan all had summits attended by a lot of media fanfare, and none of them panned out as expected.
 
Trump often told the story of The girl and the snake during his campaign, referencing peaceful Muslims and/or Muslim sympathizers like our friend Mustafa.  It appears this story applies to N. Korea too.
 
 
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2018 - 11:37am
 
The meeting between Trump and Kim may turn out better than many expect. It very well could have soured quickly, also. Both of these men have much more in common than people realize. They are both narcissists, having mega-egos. Neither can tolerate any level of criticism. Both are masters at insulting others. Both crave power. Both think that global warming is "fake news". They are both overly zealous nationalistic isolationists. They both couldn’t care less if the entire world hates their respective countries. Both are against freedom of the press. Both are overweight. Both play golf. Both inherited their fortunes. And lastly, both need to seek another hair stylist.
Maybe it is a "match made in Heaven"
 
Dave Volek Added Jun 12, 2018 - 12:39pm
This drama has a lot more chapters in it. The final chapter is far from being written.
 
If it was a D president, the writer of this article would claim that the president got nothing done.
 
 
Leroy Added Jun 12, 2018 - 12:56pm
Say what you like about Trump, Bill H.; your opinion is as good as anyone else's.  But, when it comes to Kim Jong Un, he is an enigma to the world.  Does he crave power?  All we know is that power was thrust upon him.  He has some honor to uphold since he received the keys to the hermit kingdom.  He has no choice but to play his part.  We don't know what is in his heart of hearts.  Maybe he fears being vaporized.  Who knows.  He has done some evil things, but it is all in the name of preserving the kingdom.  He did what he had to do.  Many we disparage Trump once Kim Jong Un et al are forgiven for human rights abuses.  It's the price the world with has to pay.
 
"And lastly, both need to seek another hair stylist."
 
You have a good point.
Pardero Added Jun 12, 2018 - 2:23pm
William Stockton, 
This is a courtesy note. Please delete ASAP.
Gentile? Gentle? Genteel?
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 2:50pm
Thank you Pardero.  Fixed
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:01pm
If it was a D president, the writer of this article would claim that the president got nothing done.
 
Well, this was my attempt to avoid making this political.  When in fact, most people on the planet do not view these recent events as political -- they simply appreciate the improvements in the safety for millions of lives.
I'd say if you had your way, you would have rather the meeting crashed and burned just to prove Trump was a bad negotiator.  You would rather the lives of millions of people continue in fear and danger rather than an elected president, which you oppose, lead the free world into brighter days.  You are hate embodied.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:05pm
I would also add that we have no idea what we’ll soon discover and where this will ultimately lead.  That being said, I’m happy they met. 
 
I agree, Ari.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:06pm
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Expat, when you are ready, please continue to comment . . . here.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:11pm
Bill H. 
You have been wrong about 90% of anything you have written here . . . politically.
In fact, what I should do is note what you write here, find a Vegas betting shop giving odds on the given topic.  I'd then have the money to buy you new clothes where you weren't trying to look like a cheap, dimestore novelist.
Dave Volek Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:43pm
William
 
It is good they are meeting. Diplomacy is better than warfare. But I don't see much change happening. Mr. Trump has the power to prove me wrong.
 
My point is that if Obama had been in the meeting and accomplished what Trump accomplished, you and other righties would have been very critical for not accomplishing enough. This is a very partisan piece.
 
 
 
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2018 - 3:47pm
William - Did you read my first sentence?
Or are you saying that the meeting will not produce anything?
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:16pm
This kinda connects to my story of Hope, I briefly address the North Korea meeting and I agree with you, we should all be wishing this works out even if our more skeptical sides fear it will not.
 
I do not get the Left all pushing negative comments, CNN was especially negative and insulting the President, I do not know what this degree of open hostility gives these people?  No matter who the President is, any rational human being should want a different future with North Korea than the one we have had.
 
I for one am keeping my fingers crossed but my eyes wide open.  Thanks for a positive outlook, we could use more of that these days.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:37pm
Did you read my first sentence? -- Bill H
 
As if your first sentence somehow negates the other 9 sentences of which contained your usual negative trope.
Dino Manalis Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:45pm
 North and South Koreans should continue negotiating, while the U.S. and Seoul ought to stop the most provocative aspects of their military exercises.  Sanctions will remain in place until Pyongyang denuclearizes.  North Korea should also pursue economic and political reforms, as well as respect human rights, to bring it closer to South Korea.  After reunification, U.S. troops ought to leave.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 4:56pm
I do not know what this degree of open hostility gives these people?
 
Those people follow a cult that is losing, socially.  I guess I should have pity, but I don't.  They are crashing and burning.  They are the new Jim Jones cult.  The parallels are striking -- refusing rational discourse.  Irrational reactions.  When the law comes a knocking will commit suicide and take down as many people with them as they can.  There is no positive message from these cult members other than doom.  Every day it just becomes more obvious to me. 
 
Trump had very little to do with the recent N. Korea events.  In fact, the things he didn't do are more effective than what he did do.  He didn't continue to pay off or placate a dictator which previous administrations had done. 
 
The bulk of the credit for N. Korea's supplication to her neighbors and the world has everything to do with the change in Kim . . . and somewhat a change in China.  Kim wanted to make amends with the USA 5 years ago.  His diplomat to the west, at that time, was a basketball star he admired.  Dennis Rodman.  Dennis appealed to Obama yet Obama ignored the opportunity.
 
Obama could have done this exact thing 5 years ago yet that cult leader was more focused on acquiring more power for the cult and improving his golf swing.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:02pm
But I don't see much change happening.
 
Dave, you are either willingly ignorant or insane.
Pardero Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:27pm
William Stockton,
This a splendid cheerful and optimistic article. 
I had been cautiously optimistic, and fearful of some more brinksmanship, but you are right, we should celebrate this milestone! 
 
You brightened my day, and I wish that I had more than a single like to give this joyous article.
Ryan Messano Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:29pm
I’m putting my  money on willingly, William. As for Bill H, you are right about betting against what he says and making money.
 
Liberalism is a mental illness, and we have it compounding on WB, with about eleven liberal loonies giving each other peace and comfort.  It’s like a bunch of gossipy housewives.  
 
They are at once vicious and impotent, and know about as many facts on a given topic, as an Eskimo knows about the Sahara.
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:36pm
I for one hope that the outcome for this one is favorable, believe it or not.
I just hope that Trump doesn't find his true satisfaction is looking forward to discussions with all of the world's Dictators while continuing to make enemies with our longtime allies.
And I also hope that Trump supporters don't support the same.
Dave Volek Added Jun 12, 2018 - 5:43pm
William
 
I am only going by what has been done in the past. North Korea has lied countless times about its nuclear program. We should not expect anything different--until they let the inspectors inspect any part of the country they want.
 
And history has not had any examples of a brutal dictatorship suddenly turning good. The usual way to make changes is to force them out of office.
 
Besides, if I were Kim, I would keep the bomb. Not having WMD did not help Saddam or Gaddafi. 
 
I don't see anything insane or ignorant in this analysis.
 
 
 
 
 
Ryan Messano Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:18pm
Lol.  Speaking of gossipy housewives, they are also good at silent treatment.  
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:24pm
And history has not had any examples of a brutal dictatorship suddenly turning good.
 
Where were you in the 80's?  Again, this is your selective reasoning, Dave.  Completely skewed by your politics.  We have a very good example.  The USSR willingly broke itself apart and broke down its walls.  Yet somehow you willingly forget these blatant examples of people, yes even dictators, and yes even brutal communist regimes, make turns for the better.
 
The truth is somewhere in the middle.  Kim is not just 'suddenly turning good'.  I never said that.  That is your overstated expression to delegitimize hope. 
There are multiple factors causing Kim to change his policy.  There are multiple factors causing the USA to change its policy.  The biggest factor is that Kim, a new leader and a very young one, has seen what western and the new Asian cultures offer.  He wants this for his people.  He likes basketball for god's sake!
He is not a strong person.  He doesn't have the age for that.  
But he is young and hopeful and desires to improve his country. 
 
Lastly, for your one-sided view of the planet, I offer a different perspective of Kim.
 
For the last decade, Kim has been fighting for change in his own country.  He has been fighting rank & file as well as his own relatives to make changes.  These people, his own countrymen who are at the top of the social list, the elites in N. Korea, are fighting against change to protect their own privilege. 
That is the real story there.  Yet, what you hear from the corrupted press is that Kim is trying to keep his country from changing while killing off all internal resistance to protect his power.  Yet, it is the opposite situation. 
Kim is afraid.  He is afraid of what he does not know.  All he has experienced is hostile confrontation with the West and his neighbors.  This is a young guy who likes USA basketball for god's sake.  He is not interested in nuking his neighbors.  He doesn't hate the USA . . . believe it or not. 
 
You are pretty much a waste of my time, Dave, if I was only communicating with you.  Let me know when you have discarded your cult ideology and wish to return to a rational world.  I would welcome you with open arms.
EXPAT Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:34pm
I do not agree with your headline William, but you make a good point with a good article. But the Progressive Morons who inhabit this place will never see that "Peace Thru Strength" brought NOKO to the eve of destruction, and left peace their only option! They were hiding in their basements, waiting for the bombs to fall, when all of a sudden, not bombs but peace fell.
 
But don't expect NOKO to go down easy. If Trump loses the election, or the house weakens the Military again, they will be right back at it!
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:34pm
Hey Ryan.  Welcome back. 
This is supposed to be a non-political article about hope & change.  I would note that it was not I who brought Trump or politics into this discussion.  It was our misguided and delusional friends, the cult-left members, who will drive hostile politics into every single fucking topic on this website.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:39pm
After reunification, U.S. troops ought to leave.
 
I agree, Dino.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:40pm
You brightened my day
 
I am pleased to read this.  Thanks, Pardero.
Spartacus Added Jun 12, 2018 - 6:45pm
Expat, thanks for the response.  Good points. 
 
Perhaps my disagreement with you is in your lack of faith in N. Korean motivation.  N. Korea sees what their neighbors have and what they don't have.  This alone will drive N. Korea to become one with their southern cousins.  It is inevitable.
EXPAT Added Jun 12, 2018 - 7:04pm
Dave Volek.
Besides, if I were Kim, I would keep the bomb. Not having WMD did not help Saddam or Gaddafi. 
 
I am really tired of the left Parrots who squawk this crap without understanding what the hell they are talking about.
Saddam killed tens of thousands of Kurds in the north, and Marsh Arabs in the south with WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, Sarin gas, anthrax and Mustard gas. I remember vividly the photos of women, children and old people lying rotting on the ground, their corpses rotting because the Iraqi AF would strafe any who tried to clean them up. That led to the no fly order, and eventual invasion.
 
Gaddafi never did have a viable Nuclear weapon or the means to deliver it. He too had poisonous gas and bacteriological WMD's, but never the means to deliver them.
 
Kim knew he was about to be destroyed by a superior nation, not afraid to act! PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH. 
Ryan Messano Added Jun 12, 2018 - 8:45pm
Thank you William.
 
I find proactive attacks on leftists are to be preferred.  Reactive attacks to them don’t pack as much punch.  
 
They are deluded by the media and schools and can’t think rationally.  Pretty frightening half of America fits under this umbrella.
 
But, when the leftist men are flattened, the women will find their place.  Feminazis are emboldened by the leftist beta males, and by left and right males who haven’t got enough self control to keep sex in marriage.  
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 12, 2018 - 9:20pm
@William Stockton - I believe sanctions and more pressure from China and South Korea was the steady push, and Trump openly putting his foot down was the sudden push like the straw that broke the camel's back.  Trump was showing him the broken bridge ahead but then pointed to the off ramp before that broken bridge.  Trump was willing to point to "something" final, good or bad.  Obama was not.
 
Of course this is in my humble opinion, lol.
Katharine Otto Added Jun 12, 2018 - 9:44pm
William,
The US has been at war with N. Korea since the 1950s, and Trump (and Kim) broke the ice.  Good for them.  Good, also, for S. Korea, which may be the biggest beneficiary in the deal.
 
Thanks for the hopeful post.
Michael B. Added Jun 12, 2018 - 10:15pm
Good post William, I agree wholeheartedly. I was in Germany when the Berlin Wall fell, and it was quite an experience to behold. Nobody is a more bitter opponent of Communism than the people who lived under it. Almost miraculously, these changes came about without the deaths of millions and unimaginable destruction; hopefully the Korean situation will turn out the same.
James Travil Added Jun 12, 2018 - 11:18pm
Good article William, I definitely agree with the premise, and appreciate your effort to keep it non-political. The usual extremists from the left and right won't allow it apparently. But regardless good news for the world. 
Bill H. Added Jun 12, 2018 - 11:24pm
 
I just hope that we are not abandoning our long time allies all over the world and suddenly cuddling up to our adversaries.
If Obama, or any other President for that matter had verbally insulted one (or more) of our closest allies and kissed the ass of an arch enemy in the same week, you Trumpies would be shitting your pants and whining like babies!
 
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 12:33am
@ Bill H. - how about insulting Israel but kissing Iran's ass?   You know, the number 1 sponsor of radical terrorist groups?  And now Democrats are demanding conditions on North Korea that they never asked for from Iran?   Please.
 
I do not believe we have to always agree with even our friends.  Some of my biggest arguments have been with my own friends, the real question "SHOULD BE" if the points Trump is making are valid or at least something reasonable to look at or not?
 
I think certain trade disparities and tariffs Trump points to are valid concerns myself, you think friendship is more important than fair and equitable trade?  It is okay if American farmers are screwed over by Canada because we want to be friends with Canada for example?
 
Why can't we have tough negotiations with friends?  Why does one have to come at the expense of the other?
 
 
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 12:51am
William,
Thanks for your perceptive commentary. I just read it again and the first thing that came to mind was, "I'm looking forward to his next article".
Bill H. Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:16am
 
As I said, he can get away with anything.
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:17am
This meeting between Kim and Trump is a revolutionary act against the world status quo. It has been written before that the only people that wanted the end of the KorCom regime were the North Koreans and one might add, the regime, itself. The world left them no way out.
 
President Trump has likely been speaking with Kim for quite some time and without any doubt, has given many assurances and actual aid and logistical support to President Kim, guaranteeing his personal survival. Kim has found himself in a situation not of his own making, with no way forward except to repeat the errors of his forebears. 
 
While his people had little sanctioned contact with the reality beyond their walls, that world was not denied to Kim and he wanted his nation to be in it. Trump offered him a ladder and the rest, we see playing out before our eyes.
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:39am
Luther, excellent points.  I agree completely. 
 
Perhaps one might also write an article about the similar demonization of Russia by Europe's elite.
Flying Junior Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:23am
I'm just jumping in to say that I could not more strongly disapprove of Ryan's hit piece on JFK, Nixon and Reagan.
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:25am
Thanks Katherine
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:27am
I was in Germany when the Berlin Wall fell, and it was quite an experience to behold.
 
Michael, that would be an interesting read.  Any articles from you on those events?
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:28am
But regardless good news for the world. 
 
Yes James, and thank you for the review
Mark Hunter Added Jun 13, 2018 - 3:24am
It's certainly a step in the right direction, and a direction worth working toward. I'm not terribly optimistic, but I wouldn't have been optimistic just before the Berlin Wall fell, either.
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 5:54am
It's certainly a step in the right direction
 
Right, Mark.  If I had a choice between being an eternal cynic or an eternal optimist, I'd choose the latter. 
The problem is that a cynic is usually right in the short term and the optimist usually dies before vindication.  Hence, most progress has been made and will be made by unsung optimists.
Spartacus Added Jun 13, 2018 - 5:57am
That is my cynical view of optimism!
Mark Hunter Added Jun 13, 2018 - 6:48am
Oh, what the heck, then ... I'll be an unsung optimist. I work with a pessimist, and I'd rather people didn't breath a sigh of relief when I walk out the door.
Kurt Bresler Added Jun 13, 2018 - 8:15am
William your article was great, however, I think you may have left out the most important reason for even having to write the article at all.  
Thank you for bringing to light a good reason for calling off the military exercises.  I thought that made us look weak and overly nice. However considering the North Korean people have lived in fear of the west for decades your article really gave me more of a perspective from the people's standpoint.   I can see how the military exercises were so intimidating to the helpless people of N. Korea, those in the fields struggling to produce crops working to help feed the others. 
 
At a time when our president needs people to tell the truth we might need to rethink any worry about staying politically neutral and rather attempt to speak politically.....    correct in our assessment.  Why is it wrong to show respect for the personal wisdom of our leader to facilitate not only a tough stance, but also a humble win.  I am sure it has been hard for him not to be a bigger brag however I see a hint of a heart in our president.  Now if we can help him get his personal life straight and gain more finesse in being presidential.  
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 9:12am
@ Kurt Bressler - I liked you comment and agree with all except the last part, why should Trump have more finesse or look more Presidential?  Did the pretty professional politicians before him accomplish more with North Korea?
 
The unfair trade deals, the Iraq War, deregulation that caused the housing/banking collapse, all the really hurtful things America has endured has been put into place by professional class politicians from both parties.  Does a bad thing get any better because the leaders "look pretty" screwing us?
 
I believe so many normal Americans respond to Trump because Trump is a normal person.  He makes mistakes, he is opinionated and sometimes abrupt, and is completely passionate about whatever he gets involved in.  He is a flawed human being, just like every other human being.  Those professional class politicians pretend to be something they are not.  They lie as much as they draw breath but because they are practiced liars they know how to do it well.
 
 
Give me the competent loudmouth over the incompetent/dishonest pretty boy any day.
Mark Hunter Added Jun 13, 2018 - 9:30am
Louis, you're absolutely right about how people respond to Trump. I don't like him, myself--I think he's a bully, and I despite bullies. (And I think Hillary Clinton is, too; she's just better at hiding it.) And yet, at the same time, he's a breath of fresh air in Washington. Give me an abrasive person who manages to get things done despite everyone lined up against him.
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 10:26am
The first thing that came to mind when I first watched Donald Trump some years ago was, "yep, he's a New Yorker, all right".
Around that same time, I watched a car come roaring to a stop in front of a local grocery store, to let the wife out at the entrance. There was almost a palpable feeling of arms and legs sticking out in every direction as if to say "MY space MY space". As I walked around the front of the car, I noticed the parking sticker from a local training facility that has an international clientele, along with the New York plates. "Yep, you're a New Yorker", I laughed, to myself.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 13, 2018 - 10:32am
I guess Dennis Rodman understands the world better than people like Trump, Bolt(on) or Pompeii (sorry, Pompeo).
Stone-Eater Added Jun 13, 2018 - 10:36am
BTW: People on the half-continent of North America are strange. When we arrived in Montana with a '62 Chevy Corvair in 1985, showing Swiss passports and having NJ license plates they almost put us into jail. The locals from the bar across the street saved us LOL
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 10:52am
It was the NJ plates wot done it.
Stone-Eater Added Jun 13, 2018 - 11:15am
Hm. Why ? New Jersey is a suburb of NY, that's all.....so you mean that if we'd have had, say, Nebraska or Washington plates it would have been easier ?
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 12:18pm
@ Mark Hunter - Thanks for the reply and could we not also consider the success of Bernie to prove that Americans from all sides are getting sick and tired of the 'Washington as usual" crowd?  I happen to detest the professional class politician of either party, they 'look pretty' but screw us anyway, if you are goign to screw me, at least be honest enough to do it openly, lol.
 
Trump was not my first pick, but I predicted he would win right after he entered the race, I actually remembered the interview he did with Oprah where he talked about trade deals and how America was being screwed and if he ran for President he would win, lol.  Oprah seemed pretty supportive of Trump back then......
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:22pm
Stone,
Your last post is a great reminder that subtle American humor probably won't not work with a foreign audience.
Even when done in a Limey accent.
 
 
Luther Wu Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:24pm
Is there a way to edit/correct our gaffes, as "won't not" above?
Mike Haluska Added Jun 13, 2018 - 1:54pm
Bill - great article, I share your sentiments.  When Kim Jung Un said that there were people in HIS country that were holding back progress and prosperity, I got a good feeling that maybe he gets it.  Just the fact that he actually had to worry about leaving his country and losing control finally woke him up, I believe.
Mike Haluska Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:04pm
Bill H -
 
Obama kissed the ass of our enemies, laid billions of dollars on them, tried to throw the Israel election against Netanyahu, told Russia's #2 man that "he would be free to negotiate about sanctions AFTER  the election, etc.  Just how Frakkin' BLIND are you???
 
President Trump got NK to release American hostages, meet in person for the first time in history, agree to sign a de-nuclearization agreement and HE DIDN'T PAY NK A DAMNED DIME!!!!  
 
And if the "allies" of the US are whining because they can no longer "rob the US Piggy Bank" blind while our leaders sell us down the drain - TOO FRAKKIN' BAD!!! 
 
To our so-called "Allies" - please start a Trade War with the largest, most free, most productive, most wealth creating economy in human history!!!  Somehow I think the US can get by just fine without overpriced French wine and Eurotrash cosmetics.  Let's see how well Europe gets along without US wheat, oil, natural gas, etc. and without US participation in NATO. 
Dave Volek Added Jun 13, 2018 - 2:14pm
Mike
 
Canada will be happy to sell its wheat and oil to the EU.
 
Previous US presidents would not meet with North Korea because they believe it would give the leader international legitimacy. I guess that diplomatic stick is out the window.
 
An analyst on CBC Radio this morning stated that the master negotiator gave away a bargaining chip (no more US-South Korea military exercises) in exchange for a promise. Hmmm.
 
I think Mr. Kim did his homework and played Mr. Trump. But I could be wrong. We shall see in a year.
 
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 3:08pm
@ Dave - you still have not responded to Obama giving so much to Iran for nothing, why?  All military installations are exempt from inspections, a minimum 45 days to resist any inspection (including up front waiting time the the "hearing" that Iran can demand after denying the inspection) and let's not forget pallets of cold hard cash Obama hand delivered to Iran.
 
Yes, Trump stopped "this" war exercise, but the beauty of these things is you can have another exercise with little to no real work, nothing solid was given away, it is all optics on both sides at this point.  The real damage to North Korea is the sanctions and they are still in place.  The real pressures come from his starving and poverty stricken population where even parasites are out of control.  the wealth of North Korea was spent on nuclear weapons and even if he does have working models, we know they still have a lot of problems with controlling a delivery system, but more importantly,m he faced an American President who seems to be willing to take this to the next level, something Obama would never do no matter what North Korea did.
 
 
No, nothing of real substance had happened yet, but I for one am Hopeful  because any real human being would want this to work.
Mike Haluska Added Jun 13, 2018 - 4:21pm
Dave - your statement:
 
"I think Mr. Kim did his homework and played Mr. Trump."
 
begs the question:
 
Just how was President Trump "played"?  Saying that military exercises are a waste of money gets an argument from who?  Democrats who always cut military spending? 
 
Keep this in mind - President Trump wasn't the guy in the room who was going back to a starving, bankrupt, ignorant nation about to fall apart.  President Trump didn't fire a dozen senior military officers before he left North Korea because he is fearful of a coup when he leaves his country.  
 
You can't "play" anybody when you have no cards and no backup.
 
 
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 4:39pm
@ Mike, excellent points, what have we given away?  I still do not understand why the Left is opposed to ending the mess with North Korea, this should not be a partisan issue, all human beings should desire change with North Korea.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 13, 2018 - 5:07pm
I still do not understand why the Left is opposed to ending the mess with North Korea
 
Because Trump accomplished it is why. As you see its aptly demonstrated within this thread. 
 
James Travil Added Jun 13, 2018 - 6:37pm
I agree with Jeffry. And the whole "it's wrong to give the Bad Guys legitimacy" is just a weak ass excuse to do nothing and act superior. 
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 13, 2018 - 6:46pm
@ Jeffry - okay I get that but it is a pretty damn childish reason in my opinion.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 13, 2018 - 8:23pm
it is a pretty damn childish reason in my opinion.
 
Agreed. Sums up the Killary people perfectly.
 
Bill H. Added Jun 14, 2018 - 12:00am
Who agrees that we should give in to remove troops from SK as part of the "deal"?
Louis E Weeks Added Jun 14, 2018 - 1:16am
@ Bill - I have not heard anyone say that so far, but I am sure this could be possible one day, but a lot would have to change first.
 
The "deal" is to remove the nuclear weapons and the capacity to make more, anything that 'may change" will be gated by accomplishing that first.
Spartacus Added Jun 14, 2018 - 5:47am
When Kim Jung Un said that there were people in HIS country that were holding back progress and prosperity, I got a good feeling that maybe he gets it
 
I believe that is true as well.  Kim is fighting his own people and a 65-year-old culture for changes.  Kim is the "chairman" but he has the same issues as Trump does with subversive elements who wish to maintain the status quo.  Dangerous people in his ranks.
Remember the murder of Kim's half-brother?  That wasn't Kim who ordered that hit.  I'd bet big money on it. 
 
Thanks for reading, Mike, and your comments.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Jun 14, 2018 - 6:30am
Kim Jong Un wanted to destroy DUHmerica but saw that Barry Soetero had already done it for him so he decided to negotiate with Trump.
Leroy Added Jun 14, 2018 - 9:51am
"Who agrees that we should give in to remove troops from SK as part of the "deal"?"
 
I do, ultimately.  If the two Koreas unite into one, why not?  It might want us to stay as a deterrent to China.  It would be a shame to unite only to be invaded by China.  If Koreas becomes a prosperous country that can defend its borders, there is no reason to keep American forces there, except as a deterrent against Chinese aggression.
Luther Wu Added Jun 14, 2018 - 10:02am
William,
Any guesses about the hit on Kim's brother should include a version whereby that jet-setting brother was fully supportive of the status quo, which supported his playboy appetites. That attitude would have kept Jong Un chained to the hermit- king post and he's just shown what he thinks about that future.
Luther Wu Added Jun 14, 2018 - 10:04am
Jeffry,
Y're 'n ol' wag.
Michael B. Added Jun 15, 2018 - 12:35am
@ William S. - "Michael, that would be an interesting read. Any articles from you on those events?"
 
William, thank you for inspiring my next post!
Mike Haluska Added Jun 15, 2018 - 1:52pm
Bill H -
 
I don't know how many times you have to hear President Trump say "nothing will be offered until after denuclearization" before you get it.  President Trump has got NK to stop firing missiles, stop nuclear testing, meet the SK leader in SK, meet with President Trump, release 3 American hostages with NO PAYMENTS OR REDUCTION OF SANCTIONS!!!
 
Did Obama ever get anything done other than bribe terrorist Mullahs with $150 BILLION and allowing them to get nuclear weapons in 7 years???  Did Obama get Syria to stop gassing his own people?  Did anything get done after 4 Americans (including our ambassador) were slaughtered in Libya?  Did Obama promise the Russian PM to tell Putin he would loosen sanctions after he is re-elected??? 
 
Open your eyes!!!!
Bill H. Added Jun 16, 2018 - 11:08am
Obama is past history.......
Get over it!

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