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Battle Creek, Michigan has always been a Leftist town. It was one of the major stops for the Underground Railroad and home to Sojourner Truth. With Spiritualists and Communists and much labor agitation to boot, Battle Creek was always a progressive town. It is one of the homes of the Seventh Day Adventists. 

 

Battle Creek got its moniker from a scuffle between land surveyors and an Indian who charged out of the woods to attack them. No one died. No one was hurt. Just a scuffle. In the early 1900s, the Battle Creek residents put together a city seal that depicted a surveyor beating off the Indian with his rifle. 

 

Since the 60s, the City re-imagined its seal. But there is this small stained glass window in the Second Story of city hall where the old seal is still promulgated. 

 

The City is now going to remove the seal. 

 

Nine months or so ago, an Hispanic City Commissioner started on a screed of "You stole this land", and attacked so-called white privilege, white oppression and white supremacy. She ended her screed by saying this stained glass window has got to go! (I protested her outrageous speech, was removed and three months later charged with Loud&Boisterous, and given a 275 fine.) 

 

What I see is a depiction of an historical event. Just that. This offends Liberals. 

 

Next door to us is the city of Kalamazoo, MI. It just removed its Pioneer Fountain which showed a Pioneer and an Indian together from their central park of Bronson Park. This is also akin to the removal of Confederate memorials throughout the South! The Liberals are on a mission---a Mission of Destruction. 

 

What we are witnessing is Maoism. Just like Mao in his Cultural Revolution, his followers went around destroying the heritage of their own country and then these young people began killing their parents and teachers! What we are witnessing in America is the same thing---the destruction of our heritage--a cleansing of our artwork from the body politic!  The Liberals are engaged in a Maoist cleansing of America of its European struggle and heritage. 

 

Welcome to Maoist America. The Liberals are Maoists. Their hate towards inanimate objects. It is all part of a Hate campaign. They talk about Tolerance. Is there tolerance toward our heritage?  No. They talk about Multiculturalism. Do they leave our culture alone?  NO. What about Free Speech. Is not the Window at City Hall---Free Speech?  

 

They dump a crucifix in a glass of urine---offend millions of Christians----THEY DON'T CARE---and call it Free Speech. They burn the American Flag---offend millions of American patriots----THEY DON'T CARE. But showing history and a people honoring the struggle and sacrifice of their forefathers---AND THEY ARE OFFENDED---and they go into hyperdrive to destroy. ......All their previous stances is of no concern. ....they don't regard their own previous stands! They don't have to obey anything they say about others. Calling them 'hypocrites' doesn't affect them; they don't care.

 

Liberals are showing themselves as totalitarians who speak lies. It is all a lie and a joke. They are on a cleansing mission. Just as Hispanics produce nothing but murderous Communist movements from the Shining Path in Peru, a Maoist organization, to the Sandinistas, to the Cubans, and to the Failed State of Venezuela. Hispanics like Flores show the future of America---and that is Venezuela. America is sick. This removal of the Stained Glass artwork is disgusting; it is a betrayal of our forefathers and the honoring of our forefathers and shows the spinelessness and yellowbellied cowards of the cuckolded whites of America. Todays White Americans have NO business inheriting the fruits of their forefathers. America is the land of cuckolds and cowards. America is dead and gone replaced by Maoists on a murderous rampage. After they are done removing our artwork, we are next on the agenda. Jamaica went on a bloody rampage killing all whites two hundred years ago. Another hundred years ago, the Brazilian leadership ordered---ordered  all whites to divorce their spouses and marry colored people. 

 

The removal of the Stain Glass window, a small, insignificant piece of artwork, is them showing who is in control and telling Europeans---your days are numbered. It is about putting Europeans in their place. It is about destroying Old America---and replacing it with their socialist Maoist Totalitarian utopia (...and that is why they need an Hispanic electorate).

Comments

Kristen Foley Added Jul 16, 2018 - 12:45pm
“What I see is a depiction of an historical event. Just that. This offends Liberals.”
 
I’m a conservative and I think the stained glass should go.  For starters, the way in which we took land from Indians was one of the ugliest (if not the ugliest) parts of our nation’s history.  Condoning the practice by making the surveyors look righteous and the Indians look crazy, is not the type of art I want to see on public buildings.  The glass should be removed and sold to the highest bidder.  That way you preserve whatever historical value you think it has and not make each citizen of Battle Creek guilty of this ugliness. 
 
Besides, if it was just a depiction of a historical event, why do you care so much about it to write this article?  In comparing such a trivial piece of glass and benign debate to something like Maoist China, I think you crossed a line.  We should be able to debate in this country without making our opponents out to be Hitler or Mao Tse Tung.
Dino Manalis Added Jul 16, 2018 - 3:01pm
 Hate breeds more hatred, just look at what happened in Venezuela and avoid it!
Jeff Michka Added Jul 16, 2018 - 5:17pm
Ms Foley has some advice for ol Lindsay about stained glass depictions vs actual history and meaning of same.  Perhaps like with Confederate "memorials," there wasn't overt racism, but just "remember who's boss." Like native American can't figure that out.  But remember, for rightist like Lindsay, you always need a "boogie man" to raise rightist hackles and get their knees jerking, so just mention Mao, Stalin, but not Putin or Kim ILJung.  It gets real funny, but after decades of cold war, and screaming "If you don't love everything about 'Murrica, move to RUSSIA.  Ts now find Russia our best buddy.  Something wrong with this picture? 
Lindsay Wheeler Added Jul 16, 2018 - 7:37pm
Here is the story of the event left on the Facebook page of Commissioner Kate Flores about the city seal
 
Lupe Garcia I researched the battle, 2 hungry Potawatomi raided a surveyor camp.The surveyors returned and grappled with them. One surveyor sat on one the other got hit by a rifle. The battle happened nowhere near Battle Creek. At the time I tried to get the seal changed the potowatami didn't have the influence they have now. My efforts were met with the attitude commissioners use when they listen to most citizens. If you can't tear down the statue of Washington you can't remove the city seal.
 
So what you have here is not racist---but a theft in action. There is nothing racist there. But to make it into a racist act---is evil and immoral. These people are making an agenda out of this. These people are reprobates! 
Kurt Bresler Added Jul 17, 2018 - 9:22am
Lindsay >>>> I think you got this movement down pat!,  only the Whites, at least some of them are joining the NRA and stocking up on ammunition just in case the crazy left does go nuts and start killing the super rich as well as their parents and others.
They might as well be killing a lot of parents now at least those who have a heart.  Turning against our heritage and our history is like ISIS going into historical areas in Syria or Iraq and destroying thousand year old temples and historic monuments.
I think that the next few years is going to tell the story whether we get conservatives back in Elected Offices and they begin to fight back as Trump fights back.
Bill H. Added Jul 17, 2018 - 1:07pm
 
We have much larger problems to deal with now that we have a treasonist  President. It's really time to cease labeling and defaming each other and work together to save our country. Playing into Trump's need to instill hate and division is obviously now playing into Putin's end game.
Nobody can justify or support what took place in Helsinki yesterday. The only peep I have heard so far from the Republican Party in support was Rand Paul. I wonder if he has a KGB background?
Doug Plumb Added Jul 17, 2018 - 1:18pm
Yep. Buckle up, more to come.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 17, 2018 - 8:50pm
Let's get Leroy and Lindsay together to do a photoshoot for "Smith Bros. Cough Drops." 
Ward Tipton Added Jul 17, 2018 - 9:21pm
Let's go a step farther. Let us forget completely for a moment, that by and large, the vast majority of the "Hispanic Population" is every bit as Eurocentric as the white American male, based on the influx and influence of the Spanish Conquistadores and their conquest of the Americas. Let us forget that not a single nation in the world is without periods of enslavement and enslaving others in its history. Let's forget that not even one nation in the world has failed at some point in time to be an aggressor to obtain "foreign soil". Let's forget our human history in every aspect of evil and only memorialize the "kumbaya moments" and pretend we have a history as a loving and caring race ... species if you will. 
 
Let's just wipe the slate clean of all the bad things and pretend they do not exist ... what could possibly go wrong? 
Jeff Michka Added Jul 17, 2018 - 9:36pm
"foreign soil," Ward?  You mean like the US buying the PI post SpanAM war, or just the Spanish possessions the Spaniards gave us in Treaty of Paris?  Does anyone you associate with in PI talk about how their families are descendants of Spanish nobility?   How has America's colonial empire worked out?
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 18, 2018 - 12:33am
Thought experiment.  If you could go back to 1965 and prevent the treasonous Hart-Celler "immigration act" from passing, would there now be "hispanics" agitating to have the stained glass history removed?
 
Also, lets consider the hypocrisy of the "hispanics" who have no blood relation to North American Indians.  The Mestizo's now invading North America are of Aztec/Spanish ancestry.  Aztec's never ventured north, or they would be slaughtered by North American Indians. 
 
 
opher goodwin Added Jul 18, 2018 - 5:17am
I am against the removal of history but all for the development of sensitivities that show empathy towards the pain of others. People have feelings and those feelings should be taken into account.
The history of how the Europeans practiced genocide on the Native Americans is a great stain on Europeans and I think that needs admitting and reparation made in some way.
The way forward is always through dialogue.
Having a window like that so prominently displayed must be like a slap in the face to the Native American Community. Perhaps a museum is the best way forward.
Likewise with the confederate statues, which represent a culture that is no longer acceptable, a compromise can be found. One cannot erase the past but one can create a much more balanced view. What we need in my view is an equal number of heroes of a different persuasion to go alongside them - to tell a fuller story.
Bloginton Blakley Added Jul 18, 2018 - 11:12am
The only people that normally pay any attention to statues and monuments are children, historians, and tourists.
If the historical figures these statues and monuments honor are popular, the statues and monuments will remain.  If not they will be vandalized or removed. And pretty much, there ain't jack doodie any one individual can do except, vandalize, repair, or ignore.
I don't really get emotionally connected to monuments or the like. I take this stance because I'm an anti authoritarian, and statues and monuments in general are there to help us forget about all the people that honored authoritarian individual screwed over. They simply are not there to represent history but to provide a common sense of culture, and to sanitize the local history so that the tots aren't horrified by the actual history.  Although the seal in question seems to do a fairly good job of portraying events... but then Battle Creek is a sort of ironic name not given to honor some rich character-pimple.  And the irony of the name is appreciated by people...who tend to like that kind of thing more than remembering the name of the founder, who may or may not have been a nice person.
 
I mean how many statues of Andrew Jackson do you see killing thousand of Indians?  But in my view that is probably the most important thing about Andrew Jackson, not that he could sit a horse.
 
So which statues stay and which go, goes back to the idea that popular icons get preserved and unpopular icons get spit upon, spray painted, torn down and urinated on... actually probably all statutes get urinated on at some point.  It's almost as good as peeing on the current president.... I'm told.
:)
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Jul 18, 2018 - 5:15pm
Or those statues get shit on, those damn leftist birds!!!
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 18, 2018 - 5:20pm
Hey Jeff, who funded, agitated for, and passed into law the Hart-Celler act?
 
Lindsay Wheeler Added Jul 18, 2018 - 7:43pm
I have your answer here to the Hart-Celler bill, the 1965 Immigration Act; Prof. Kevin MacDonald's excellent research, Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy 1881-1965: A Historical Review
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/immigration.pdf
 
The 1965 Immigration Act was a law of Genocide and Treason. It is illegitimate and that makes the US Government illegitimate. The 1965 Immigration Act broke the Social Compact. America is a Failed State. 
Lindsay Wheeler Added Jul 18, 2018 - 7:44pm
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 19, 2018 - 10:11am
Thanks Lindsay.
 
Our friend Jeff just reacts with the label anti-semite every time I bring up anything factual, as if our friends can do no wrong.  
 
He is a good slave, unable or unwilling to ask questions about his masters.  
 
The plain fact of the matter is our Mexinvasion would not have happened without treasonous 65 act.  This treasonous pattern is repeated historically in different times and places by our friends, another aspect ignored by the fact challenged WB peanut gallery.
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Jul 19, 2018 - 4:55pm
MOFOSWILL loops Trumpist Lindsay in with making things about me and denying his anti-Semite statements.  Yeah, all those damn Jews funded it, right MOFOSWILL.   Yeah, that Hispanic "invasion" is pure Trump sophistry that works on suckers like you and Lindsay.   Yeah, those "brown people are gonna get you both, string you up and stuff tacos down both your throats until you die.  Afterall, they are all rapists and murderers.  So before they murder you....spread wider than normal MOFOSWILL.
Lindsay Wheeler Added Jul 19, 2018 - 8:27pm
From my paper, "The Many Forms of Genocide":
 
[quote]". Since the legalization of abortion in 1972, there have been some 60 million abortions in America[i], and just the same influx of foreigners (59 million Hispanics)[ii] being brought in—race displacement." [/quote]
 
 
[i] "Based on the January 2013 estimate that there have been 55.7 million abortions in the United States since 1973." So by 2018, the count should be about 60 million. Abort73.com (2018) "Abortion and race". Copyright © 2005-2017 Loxafamosity Ministries, Inc. http://abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race/  Retrieved 01/17/2018.
[ii] Pew Research Center (2015) "Modern Immigration Wave Brings 59 Million to U.S., Driving Population Growth and Change Through 2065".   http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/09/28/modern-immigration-wave-brings-59-million-to-u-s-driving-population-growth-and-change-through-2065/  Retrieved 01/17/2018.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:07am
Americans and Europeans are expected to be enlightened world citizens, as our culture and forebears are maligned and denigrated. What fills the cultureless void that is created? Selfishness, greed, hedonism, and the insertion of other alien cultures, usually with far more violent histories, and little or no contributions to civilization. 
 
Kristen Foley appears to make a reasonable argument, that paints Lindsay as an extremist, but the stained glass art is just another instance of our history, heritage, and culture being 'disappeared.'
 
Taken out of context, this is a small thing, but it is occurring all over America and Europe, and at an increasing pace. Non-white parts of the world have no corresponding activities. 
 
Just about every ethnic group is entitled to their homeland history, and culture, except for Caucasians. Caucasian territory belongs to all. What is theirs is theirs, but what is ours, is theirs, too. 
 
Many people believe that the Jews deserve a homeland. The Israelis are working towards taking away the Palestinian homeland, though many believe that the Palestinians need a homeland, too. 
 
Everyone gets to have a culture and homeland except for white people. Our homeland is community property. We are told that our history consists of violence and exploitation. We are told that we are born racists, because we are white. A lot of well-meaning people buy into that, but they are only useful idiots. 
 
Some people are sentries that sense that their tribe(s) is under attack. They shout that 'Hannibal is at the gates.' Others, comfortable in their little world, mock those sentries. They would invite the invaders in, as the Sabines did.
 
History has shown that women of conquered nations, find the invaders attractive, and their own men as undesirable and unattractive. I fear that a non-military invasion is having the same psychological affect on white women. It may also play into their fantasies of being ravished by a conquering barbarian.
 
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:40am
Jeff sure is butt-hurt by actual data.  Lindsay and Pardero just posted information which cannot be refuted by anybody who is rational.  
 
So, Jeff squeals like a little girl about anti-semitism and racism and the poor brown people.  Do you have an agenda Jeff?  Or, are you just irrational?
Flying Junior Added Jul 20, 2018 - 1:07am
What the fuck?  You condemn Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad?
 
What are you?  A dead Reb brought back by necromancy?
 
Battle Creek?  The home of Kellogg's cereal?
 
You sir, are no American that I would ever like to meet.  Why do not you focus you sick, disgusting and unwelcome attention on Ann Arbor or Detroit?
 
Then, at the least we might have an intelligent meeting of the minds?
 
You have to be a troll!  Some kind of sick, hopped-up, new, slippery troll from hell.
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 1:31am
FJ,
 
You are flying off the handle.  Here is a video by a black man about invaders and traitors:
invaders and traitors
 
Nobody is impressed by virtue signaling.   There are new realities on the ground.  
 
Black people are waking up to their dispossession (and many whites), and people like Michka and you are part of the problem.  
 
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 1:55am
It's ok to go back to sleep.  Take your blue pill.  
Flying Junior Added Jul 20, 2018 - 2:13am
Ecch!
Ward Tipton Added Jul 20, 2018 - 2:22am
Any word on whether or not they are going to remove the Statue down in the Carolinas for the black members of the Confederate Armed Forces that served there and that are memorialized in their statue? 
Flying Junior Added Jul 20, 2018 - 3:40am
Aren't you a little bit confused Ward?  I only read that republicans wish to build a statue for the black confederate soldier(s).  Or at the least for the slaves who accompanied their master's boys into war.
Doug Plumb Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:44pm
Michael Hoffman, E. Michael Jones and Kevin MacDonald have all done great research on the JQ. Most of the works are censored from Amazon.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:51pm
Doug Plumb,
Kevin McDonald comments at Zerohedge under a nome de plume.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:52pm
I have had a few pleasant exchanges with him.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:53pm
The Zerohedge personality 'George Washington' is Craig Murray.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:55pm
I suspect many other luminaries of having nom de plumes at Zerohedge.
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 12:58pm
Doug, you can run facts and actual history by some people and they will refuse to accept.  People like Hoffman, Jones and MacDonald have built solid cases, with no real counter-argument.
 
I'm trying to understand the liberal mind.  It does not do just to say Lib-Tard, or Liberalism is a mental disease. (Which it may be in all honesty.)
 
It takes more.  What exactly is going on with their brain function?
 
I'm beginning to think they get a dopamine hit when they virtue signal or agitate for some sort of moral imperative.  Emotion is definitely overriding the logic centers of their brain, so perhaps their brains are wired differently.  A large segment of the female population thinks  emotionally like this, so there may be many men who are outwardly male, but have female instincts.
 
The male sperm count is down to a third of our fore-fathers, and there are estrogen like chemicals in the environment, especially from plastics.  Women are pissing their birth control chemicals into the water, and it does not filter out completely when it recycles in  treatment plants.  There are a number of soy-boys, cucks, and lib-tards in the population now as men become feminized.
 
So, we can continue with our fact attack, and rubbing their noses in the shit of their own making, but it doesn't matter.  It would probably take a life or death situation to force a "come to Jesus" moment for them.  Basically it would take an extreme emotional stress event for their "female like" brains to re-wire.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 1:59pm
MEFOBILLS,
Not only the levels of hormones in the water supplies, but anti-depressants are getting to significant levels. The water distribution system, that I managed, did not test for such things, but some larger nearby municipalities did. It is alarming and increasing. 
 
I hate to see sewer recycled for park irrigation in this town. Although it appears to be a worthy practice on the surface, eventually those chemicals will find their way into the wells. 
 
I can't imagine the expense of trying to remove those chemicals from wastewater. Next thing you know, they will be found in rain and snowpack.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 20, 2018 - 3:42pm
Must be Jews promoting using sewage in parks, knowing the goys in the hood will go sit on the contaminated grass, or eat it showing how they are really farm animals.  Those chemcals will also help sterilize the "good white people,": and make it easier for the forces of Zion to overcome.  Always "those Jews," eh?
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 3:44pm
I prefer using the term banksters. Ordinary folks, no matter what ethnicity, are not a problem.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 20, 2018 - 4:04pm
Perhaps, Pard, but your buddy MOFOSWILL is always getting around to Jews in the woodpile, and screams when he is called an anti-Semite, and his views are my problem, according to old MOFOSWILL.  He's always talking about how so and so is "butt-hurt."  Sounds like projection.  Got a feeing ol MOFO is a little imp wristed, and the cowboy hat and cowboy boots are props for MOFO's journey to "Brokeback Mountain." 
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 4:37pm
Well, the banksters are mostly of a single ethnicity, but because of exceptions, I prefer a non-ethnic term, others are more blunt. All of those fabulously wealthy people exert too much influence on our government, against the best interests of the people, and the health of the country.
 
Some people use terms that you find offensive, but their aims are to make America a better place, just as I'm sure yours are. We all have different ideas of what ails the country, and even more on how to fix the problems. 
 
I don't have the answers. The answers may be complex and may need to be synthesized from ideas from seemingly opposite ideologies. 
 
You might be surprised to find you have some partial agreement with people that appear to be far right, at least concerning finance and banking. Bernie seemed to understand, but his handouts are not feasible in this climate, though a universal higher education, preferably a trade school, may be feasible in the future, when we are on a more solid footing. Any such programs should be color blind, quota free, aptitude based, and directed towards actual need, or projected need, in the work force.
 
 
Doug Plumb Added Jul 20, 2018 - 4:57pm
re "I'm trying to understand the liberal mind.  It does not do just to say Lib-Tard, or Liberalism is a mental disease. (Which it may be in all honesty.)"
 
There have been a few doctors write books on the new Liberal sickness, one I can think of is Leo Rossiter. I know there are two independent others. I think they have you tube vids that talk about their books.
I want to understand the holocaust goggles. I want to understand why people say they think 9-11 was done by Osama. No one can really believe that and people who say they do must believe they are special, deserving and privileged and will be rewarded for not speaking out, or just towing the party line.
 
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 6:08pm
Doug, I'm expecting Jeff to attack you now because of your"holocaust goggles" comment.  
 
You cannot stray off the reservation and have thought crimes like that, or these self appointed thought police will call you names, and then when they get their dopamine hit,  they will feeeel good and think they are righteous dudes.
Doug Plumb Added Jul 20, 2018 - 7:32pm
It's like watching a drowning man.
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 7:36pm
Doug,
Be careful. You have already been threatened with mayhem for questioning the holocaust religion.
Jeff Michka Added Jul 20, 2018 - 8:23pm
MOFOSWILL warns PlumbDoug I'll "attack" him.  Well, MOFOSWILL, PlumbDoug is just another batshit crazy conspiracy theorist, competing with Infowars for batshit crazy stuff.  From the Moon landing conspiracy to the Sandyhook School shooting conspiracy, he's heard it all and still touts his shit, trying to wow the rubes with his "explanations of complex problems" in simple terms geared toward Trumpist supporter mentality. His holocaust crap is more of the same.  It's all those foul conspiracies, many of them obviously to Doug, plotted by "The Jews."  Got no use for Plumb, and threatening him is a waste of time.  He Kant reKant his moronic conspiracies, but tries to sucker folks like you and ol Pard.  On you folks, it has worked.  And I'm "the drowning man," eh loser conspiracy theorist?  You went under a long time ago.  To note:  Both Plumb and I  have been around WB a helluva lot longer than you two combined.  I call you MOFOSWILL for a reason, MOFO.  So MOFOSWILL is another conspiracy theorist? 
Pardero Added Jul 20, 2018 - 8:26pm
Mr. Michka,
Please be civil. Jim Coster threatened Doug with mayhem. 
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 20, 2018 - 8:43pm
Jeff, 
You allegations are always just that, shrill denunciations lacking in evidence.  Your being around "longer" doesn't give you any moral authority, which is yet more false logic from your "liberal female" brain.
 
I notice you are a good slave, virtue signaling for your masters.  
Doug Plumb Added Jul 21, 2018 - 4:50am
I that Mefobills, Pardero and myself came to the same conclusions before ever meeting on here.
Doug Plumb Added Jul 21, 2018 - 4:53am
re "Jim Coster threatened Doug with mayhem." What else can he do?
Maybe some of these guys got long arms and can reach in a tweak the establishment against me or us. I know how to handle the "Revenue" collection agencies. They promised to take my shit and cart me away in July of this year if I didn't pay up. Its July 21st and I'm still here, and I don't owe them any money and didn't pay up.
Lindsay Wheeler Added Jul 22, 2018 - 8:34am
In understanding liberals, the first one is the Bible in Ecclessiates chapter 8, where the writer asks to understanding "the madness of the ungodly". What we are experiencing is the "madness of the ungodly". When a Democrat candidate in Arizona says she supports ICE, the audience booed and harassed her viciously. The Democrats are going over the deep end quick. It is becoming dangerous. 
 
Another is the book by Br. Seraphim Rose, "Nihilism, the Root of Revolution in the Modern Age". 
 
The other is Prof. Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn's "Liberty or Equality", and "Leftism Revisited". 
Ari Silverstein Added Jul 23, 2018 - 9:00am
Battle Creek’s city seal is that of a surveyor clubbing a Native American.  I don’t care if the seal is false depiction of the event or happened in some other geographic area, it’s not a very nice image.  I’m not accusing anyone alive today of racism or insensitivity towards Native Americans.  As for what to do about it because it’s an image nobody should be very proud of, why not get rid of it? 
 
Certainly anyone advocating for such a policy isn’t a akin to arguably the world’s ugliest dictator.   The fact you label people in this manner is exactly what’s wrong with political discourse today.  We should all be able to express our opinions without resorting to being called names. 
MEFOBILLS Added Jul 23, 2018 - 9:59am
Ari,
 
In the broader context, what is your take on the erasure of other historical monuments.   For example, the recent take-down of statues and even attempts to write people out of history e.g. Thomas Jefferson - because he had slaves.
 
The next question is why didn't previous generations object to it, and only today's people are being triggered?
Ward Tipton Added Jul 23, 2018 - 10:29pm
I would question how the removal of historical monuments does not equate to the same actions undertaken by extremist regimes around the globe? 
 
The brits by and large enslaved the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots, and forcefully removed people from their homes to fight the wars of the English. Should we ban all things English? 
 
The Germanic nations are rife with oppression, slavery and historical abuse by tribes against their neighbors? Should we ban everything from the old Germanic countries? 
 
The "Hispanic" people are by and large the European remnants of the Spanish Conquistadores and remind us of the turmoil and mass homicide and destruction of even more native American people ... should we ban everything Hispanic or just Spanish? 
 
There are more slaves in the world today than there were in the entire history of these independent but united States of America ... where is the outrage about this? 
 
Human history is rife with warfare and oppression, would it not be easier just to wipe out human history altogether as it may remind us that we are often a violent and oppressive species? 
 
Once you begin to remove history, where does it stop? Where the last guy was offended? Cain? 
Jeff Michka Added Jul 24, 2018 - 9:33pm
Most of the "confederate memorials were installed in the early part of the 20th C.  Most of the statues were "catalog items," pick CS or....The statues weren't erected to memorialize good confederates or union soldiers, if the former the statues were meant to intimidate and make Jim Crow laws more "respectable." while reminding the stupid black people who is in charge....good white people, of course.  They've never forgotten, and they still look down on you...so stay in line...

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