In the Land of the Blind

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There is an old saying that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King. There was also a guy a long place ago and in a time far away who reminded us daily that we knew a little bit, soon we would know “the rest of the story”. In the case of the one-eyed man in the land of the blind, he may indeed be the proverbial king, but he could very well just be another madman as well. In accordance with simple logic, it would seem reasonable that the man with partial sight would be capable of outperforming and improving upon virtually everything that was done by those who were completely without sight … but life is never quite so simple as that is it?

 

Imagine if you will, a world in which everyone is quite literally blind. In this world, these people would have to learn to maneuver and function without the benefit of sight. This is not however, to say that they would be forced to get along without any real sense of perception … indeed, their sense of perception would likely be highlighted and if anything, even more sensitive to their surroundings and circumstances that they could quite literally never see. Then lo and behold, the day comes along when the one-eyed man is born unto this world. This one-eyed child begins its life listening to the stories and tales of the blind and just accepts them as the way things are in this world. Though as he grows, as his own perception and ability to reason increase, he becomes aware that not everything is quite as it appears to be … largely, figuratively and quite literally speaking in virtually every sense of the word.

 

Not only can the sighted man see the realities of the world around him, but he feels compelled to share the truth with the rest of the world that is in fact, too blind to see what is really going on. He can prove through demonstration that he is correct in many circumstances, and tries to convey other thoughts and meanings of the things that he can see now that his eyes have been opened. How does one explain colors to someone who has no need for them? How can someone who has never seen a sunset understand what it is all about? For the blind, there is a period of time when it gets hotter and a period of time when it gets cooler. That is just the way that things are and the way that they have always been. There is no real need for a further explanation, much less for any deeper understanding of the underlying cause(s).

 

Yet the sighted man, eager to share this new information and the realities of the world they live in, seeks only to share and enlighten those who have raised him up, but who hold such a distorted view of the real world surrounding them. The partially sighted man knows and understands that it is through no fault of the blind that they cannot see what he can, but his efforts are sincere and his cause only to educate and enlighten … and he is ostracized, criticized and even mocked and ridiculed by those that he is seeking to enlighten. In the land of the blind, there is no need for colors, no comprehension of beauty or art and no need for such frivolities. Despite the best of intentions, the sighted man is burdened with truths that mean nothing to those around him.

 

Despite the best of intentions, the partially sighted man is seeking to burden people with truths that are inconsequential to the reality in which they live. Despite the reality of everything that the partially sighted man has pointed out to the blind, it not only does not provide them with any benefits, but actually burdens them with concern for the health and well-being of the one who is merely attempting to introduce them to the truth. Despite the reality of what the sighted man sees, it does not fit in to any of the categories of understanding of the larger community that is wholly blind.

 

Truth be told, in the Land of the Blind, the sighted may very well be the one who is handicapped, and furthermore, an actual detriment to the rest of society … no matter their intentions or the veracity and accuracy of their observations.

 

What if the reality of the world around them is so devastating that the people have evolved, becoming blind over the course of time? Blind to the actions of their leaders? Blind to the actions of the world around them? Blind to the illusions created on their behalf so that they would be contented running through life completely blind to reality? What if the people are merely blind as an intentional result of the actions of their leaders? Would not everything be done to indicate that the partially sighted man was insane if not a heretic or a direct threat to society?

 

What if the blind were not even aware that they were blind at all? What if, in reality, these people are so blind to the truth around them that they would swear to their deity of choice that they were fully sighted and capable despite being blinded by the dazzling array of truths constantly being revealed to them from those that can see the real truth?

 

Perhaps most troubling of all; while each and every person would swear that they were the only ones capable of seeing the truth, how would anyone ever know who was blind and who was sighted? Is it not pretty amazing how much conflict we can all rationalize in our own minds through cognitive dissonance or otherwise, despite the reality right in front of our faces? Oh, but it is okay when my guy does it, but evil when your guy does it. I want this person as my leader but not that person as my leader! I want this jackboot crushing my throat but not that jackboot crushing my throat!

 

Perhaps, far too much allowance has been given to the blind and far too little attention paid to the reality around us, but then again, life is so much easier when we, despite our individual blindness, can claim to be the only one who is really capable of seeing the truth! As long as we can work our forty, go home and pop open our forty, and turn on the idiot box known as a television set, we all seem to be quite content running through life blinded … or at least, everyone else seems to be contented that way, despite the truth.

 

SIDENOTES:

 

There are three realities. There is reality as you perceive it, reality as I perceive it, and the reality that will slap us all in the back of the head.

 

Intention vs Reality: The intention of the person crossing the street is just to get across the street. The reality is that when they got hit by the passing vehicle, it does not matter what they “meant to do” or what their intentions were, they are dead regardless. Reality based solely on intentions, feelings or emotions is more than just dangerous, it is delusional.

 

Jeffery Goines (BRAD PITT FROM 12 MONKEYS): You know what crazy is? Crazy is majority rules. Take germs, for example.

 

James Cole: Germs?

 

Jeffrey Goines: Uh-huh. Eighteenth century: no such thing, nada, nothing. No one ever imagined such a thing. No sane person. Along comes this doctor, uh, Semmelweis, Semmelweis. Semmelweis comes along. He's trying to convince people, other doctors mainly, that's there's these teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs that get into your body and make you sick. He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is this guy? Crazy? Teeny, tiny, invisible? What do they call it? Uh-uh, germs? Huh? What? Now, up to the 20th century — last week, as a matter of fact, before I got dragged into this hellhole — I go in to order a burger at this fast-food joint, and the guy drops it on the floor. James, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me like it's all OK. "What about the germs?" I say. He says "I don't believe in germs. Germs is a plot made up so they could sell disinfectants and soaps." Now he's crazy, right? See? Ah! Ah! There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only popular opinion. You... you... you believe in germs, right?

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Even A Broken Clock Added Aug 18, 2018 - 12:09pm
Day after day, alone on a hill
The man with the foolish grin is sitting perfectly still
Nobody wants to know him
They can see that he's just a fool
But he never gives an answer
 
This song came to mind while reading your post. What I see now is that we've divided ourselves into self-blinding pools, where we choose through our clan relationships what we see and call real. Good post.
opher goodwin Added Aug 18, 2018 - 12:13pm
It doesn't seem to make sense o me that supposedly intelligent people are deliberately blinding themselves and allowing a partially sighted maniac to lead them to the cliff.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 18, 2018 - 2:47pm
Huge spy organizations such as the ADL prevent those who can see with one eye from pointing the blind toward truth. No one can know that we are headed toward a second Jewish revolution, like the one in Russia until we are so far immersed in it that no one can see a way out even if they have one eye open. The idea of "anti hate" laws actually seems appealing to the non reading or thinking majority of the population.
Even truth now is not a valid defense if one is tried for holocaust denial in Canada. So even if you can see, they don't let you see the way out.
FacePalm Added Aug 18, 2018 - 6:24pm
Ward Tipton-
First, i confess to not having yet read the entirety of your article, but i was "inspired" to comment ahead of that milestone.
 
Perhaps the tale of the one-eyed man in the land of the blind could be compared to the "spiritual eye," the one Christ referred to when He said "If thine eye be single, thy whole body will be filled with Light."
 
Such a one could be referred to as literally "enlightened."  If too young when such enlightenment is reached, he or she will excitedly wish to tell everyone about it, perhaps akin to the fish who was hauled into the boat but escaped to tell his friends below about what he'd experienced.
 
In a book called "Jesus, the Son of Man," by Kahlil Gibran, he gives an explanation of the "don't cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them into the mud and turn to rend you" by explaining that for those who are in one spiritual state, anyone who attempts to inform them of a yet higher state of consciousness is likely to first, be disbelieved, then second, considered to be "talking down" to someone, and third, resented for their perception of such a one, and likely to turn violent hands upon him or her.
 
They've simply not been prepared to receive the higher wisdom, and one who is TRULY enlightened will shine the light they've found on their PATH, not in their eyes.  For me, this is rather akin to something i found in an ancient manuscript which goes by many names, but is entitled "What is Truth?: in the Gospel of the Holy Twelve.  It goes like this:
 

AGAIN the twelve were gathered together in the Circle of palm trees, and one of them even Thomas said to the others, “What is Truth? For the same things appear different to different minds, and even to the same mind at different times. What, then, is Truth?”
2. And as they were speaking, Jesus appeared in their midst and said, “Truth, one and absolute, is in God alone, for no man, neither any body of men, know that which God alone knows, who is the All in All. To men is Truth revealed, according to their capacity to understand and receive.
3. The One Truth has many sides, and one sees one side only, another sees another, and some see more than others, according as it is given to them.
4. Behold this crystal, how the one light is manifest in twelve faces, yea, four times twelve; and each face reflects one ray of light, and one regards one face, and another, another, but it is the one crystal and the one light that shines in all.
5. Behold again, when one climbs a mountain and attaining one height, he says, ‘This is the top of the mountain, let us reach it’; and when they have reached that height,  lo,  they see another beyond it until they come to that height from which no  other height is to be seen,  if so be they can attain it.
6. So it is with Truth.  I am the Truth and the Way and the Life, and have given to you the Truth I have received from above.  And that which is seen and received by one,  is not seen and received by another.  That which appears true to some, seems not true to others.  They who are in the valley see not as they who are on the hilltop.
7. But to each,  it is the Truth as the one mind sees it, and for that time, until a higher Truth shall be revealed unto the same;  and to the soul which receives higher light, shall be given more light.  Wherefore condemn not others, that ye be not condemned.
8. As ye keep the holy Law of Love which I have given unto you, so shall the Truth be revealed more and more unto you; and the Spirit of Truth which comes from above shall guide you, albeit through many wanderings, into all Truth;  even as the fiery cloud guided the children of Israel through the wilderness.
9. Be faithful to the light ye have, until a higher light is given to you. Seek more light, and ye shall have abundantly;  rest not, till ye find.
10. God gives you all Truth,  as a ladder with many steps,  for the salvation and perfection of the soul,  and the truth which seems today,  ye will abandon for the higher truth of the morrow.  Press ye unto Perfection.
11. Whoso keeps the holy Law which I have given,  the same shall save their souls, however differently they may see the truths which I have given.
12. Many shall say unto me, ‘Lord, Lord, we have been zealous for thy Truth.’  But I shall say unto them, ‘Nay, but, that others may see as ye see, and none other truth beside.’ Faith without charity is dead. Love is the fulfilling of the Law.
13.  How shall faith in what they receive profit them that hold it in unrighteousness?  They who have love have all things, and without love there is nothing  of worth. Let each hold what they se
FacePalm Added Aug 18, 2018 - 6:27pm
see to be the truth in love,  knowing that where love is not,  truth is a dead letter and profits nothing.
14. There abide Goodness, and Truth, and Beauty, but the greatest of these is Goodness.  If any have hatred to their fellows, and harden their hearts to the creatures of God’s hands, how can they see Truth unto salvation, seeing their eyes are blinded and their hearts are hardened to God’s creation?
15. As I have received the Truth, so have I given it to you.  Let each receive it according to their light and ability to understand, and persecute not those who receive it after a different interpretation.
16. For Truth is the Might of God, and it shall prevail in the end over all errors.  But the holy Law which I have given is plain for all, and just and good. Let all observe it for the salvation of their souls.”
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So, what do you think?
Ward Tipton Added Aug 18, 2018 - 10:13pm
EABC - That was the basic intention of the post, to note how so many here are convinced that they alone are purveyors of the truth, or only they are enlightened enough to impart knowledge upon the rest of us poor and piteous souls here. I never related it to the Beatles before, but it does fit in some ways. 
 
Opher - For you that may be what you see, but like the Oasis in the desert, many others do not see it. In fact, judging from the poll numbers, it would seem that far more people see a man working diligently to steer the path clear of the cliff. Only time will tell which vision of the truth is real. If I were you, I would be far more concerned with American law than American presidents as the law has an inherent ability to mess with you no matter where you are. But then again, that is just me ... just a fool ... though not one on a hill ;)
 
Doug - Yes, I remember the ruling by the judge who refused to dismiss the case of Hate Speech even though the comments were true and verifiable. Law demands we recognize delusion as fact (how were you to know that your 50 year old neighbor, father of two, woke up feeling like a pre-pubescent girl? But you didn't, and you called him a sir ... and that is hateful because you do not recognize his bizarre issues with gender dysphoria as fact beyond reason. Justice Systems have not been about Justice for years or longer. 
 
FacePalm - The Holy Word, much like the Law, can be used to define, quantify and justify many positions but this is an excellent example of teaching discernment. In all things we can find blessings or we can be trapped. The only "laws" imparted by the Christ were to love our brothers (our fellow mankind) as we love ourselves and to continue spreading the good news of the Kingdom of God. Those truths are evidenced for most of the world to see, though individual actions may vary greatly, even among Christians and those who profess to follow the Christian faith, though much of the teaching of the tutor, the Messiah ... the Christ, is written in parables so as to fit with spiritual, the physical and even the symbolic writings elsewhere within the Bible. It is here that we require discernment I believe and also here wherein some profess their interpretation of the truth to be the only one, despite God opening all of our hearts differently. It also happens to be why I, remaining a man of great and unfaltering faith, do not participate actively in the religious institutions of men. 
 
What do I think? More books I have not read before! Now if I can just download them before my internet expires!!!
Ryan Messano Added Aug 19, 2018 - 2:46am
Great article, Ward.  The usual suspects don’t suspect it’s about them.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 6:26am
Ryan is right about that. Many have that special blindness that comes from an eye that can but but will not.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 6:31am
Facepalm. Previous to years of reading philosophy and law I tried the Bible but could not understand its elegant simplicity. Now I can say that I really understand that passage. But Christ said reason gets stronger with time. Kant has made that reason stronger, and the scholastics, and others such as Aqinas have clarified reason beyond what the excellent philosopher could have imagined. Kant brought reason to heights few could imagine. Those passages are great for one approaching truth, and unwilling to keep their eye closed.
 
Ward, what do you think caused all of this confusion? Was it magic potions, photography and extortion on a wide scale? I wonder if it could really be anything else.
Ward Tipton Added Aug 19, 2018 - 10:13am
What do I think caused all the confusion? This from a student of philosophy? Is the table smooth? It looks smooth. It feels smooth. Is it smooth though? At the microscopic level there are massive peaks and pikes and crevices. 
 
The fool thinks himself a wise man and speaks freely, misleading anyone who will listen. The wise man realizes how much he does not know and refuses to speak. 
 
Our inability to comprehend is what has caused all the confusion. 
 
I am sure that I am not the only one here who has searched out the commonalities between Scriptural teachings and the hard sciences. 
 
Add to our innate inability to comprehend so much with an inherent need to seek out differences ... to label and classify everything and our nature to seek out "us" and "them" in everything ... 
 
In short? Human nature has caused all this confusion. Man has indeed ruled man to his own detriment (or injury ... depending on the translation). 
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 11:03am
re "I am sure that I am not the only one here who has searched out the commonalities between Scriptural teachings and the hard sciences. "
 
I have not done this intentionally but have run into it, and I do consider it important. I'm looking for a unified theory that would explain all of this, I think its good to think in terms of a reductionist in solving problems.
  I think that there is a "death cult", a cult that is meant to destroy not only everyone it can but itself as well (Judaism). I don't think they rule at all but are lead to believe that they do. I see the secret societies the same way.
  I think narcissism is a major component, where the professional thinks himself better than the common labourer, but is not sufficiently educated to realize that he can do more harm (and often does) than the common labourer. The professional considers himself having a greater value in society - it would be true if he was sufficiently trained in basic reasonable (ethical/moral) principles, otherwise he is the opposite.
  I think there is a weak correlation between success and IQ. My labour economics professor believed there was none at all back in the 90's when I was in school. (Jordan Peterson says there is) Personally I think there is a small correlation - some professions simply require a high IQ - top docs, engineers, etc. Mostly, I think, success is brought by hard work and discipline as well as a clear mind.
  But CS Lewis was right when he said that people with a big education in the professions, or other, and none of it comprised of a study of ethics are easily corruptable and can be used to do a lot of damage. I'm currently studying Screwtape and finding it very enlightening. I had read it before but needed reminding of these basic principles.
 
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 11:04am
What do you think of what I wrote above Ward?
FacePalm Added Aug 19, 2018 - 3:31pm
Doug-
Sometimes, i think that the bible was not meant to be understood so much as experienced.
For example, the book of Chronicles seemed absolutely boring and without point to me, especially the long lists of the geneologies of this or that one.
But i asked, with sincerity, why all those names were important, and i received back that the very pronunciation of these names - if done correctly - will have an effect upon structuring the brain.
Whether that's true or not, i cannot say, but i'm ok with being transformed; Lord knows i seem to screw most things up when relying entirely upon myself.
But you said that Christ said that reason will increase?  i've not read that passage, or perhaps you're paraphrasing - can you remember approximately where you read that?
 
Ward-
i don't recall if i mentioned this to you or not, but i'm very careful about using the word "holy" to describe anything visible to the human eye and accessible to human hands.  Some claim that whether it be "The Holy Bible" or "The Holy Torah" or "The Holy Baghavagita" or "The Holy Qu'ran" or "The Holy Book of the Flying Spaghetti Monster," things in them all can be taken out of context or twisted to justify the kidnapping, torture, and murder of "others" if there's a lack of discernment, esp. in re: reaping what is sown, and getting back what you give, quite precisely.
 
That said, i found your reference to reconciling - or at least, comparing - spiritual understandings to the hard sciences to be of some interest, especially in re: an article by a JPL scientist named Bernard Haisch entitled "Brilliant Disguise: Light, Matter, and the Zero-Point Field."
 
i think that you - and perhaps others - might be interested in his take and growth in understanding in re: God's alleged first words as recorded in the bible.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Aug 19, 2018 - 4:12pm
Did not fully read the tome. However, Plato's the Analogy of the Cave came to mind as I read. In the end, the man who escaped from the cave and saw the light-the sun was the source of the passing shadows they saw on the cave walls and on which they centered their world, ended up being killed because his truth upset the worldview of the unenlightened.  So, even though you may know the truth, it has to be carefully parcelled out to the blind.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 6:42pm
re "But you said that Christ said that reason will increase?  i've not read that passage, or perhaps you're paraphrasing - can you remember approximately where you read that?"
 
  Reason is represented by wine which gets better with age. Reason does improve with age as things like laws and math improve with time as new rules are discovered and rough edges get rounded out. (I'm NOT talking about statutes, which are man made laws). Kant explains this in Religion Within The Bounds of mere Reason. Its why reason is the wine. Everyone knows reason gets better.
  Dr. Green makes a good point - one we all should know. I've got a book on Plato's Cave that was given to me, haven't read it yet. I read the Republic a long long time ago. I should read that again and again and again...but where is the time?
 
Doug Plumb Added Aug 19, 2018 - 7:32pm
The truth, from Churchill and declassified US gov docs is here. This truth is enveloping the world.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Aug 19, 2018 - 9:30pm
There was a book I read about a society purging of the insane. They only wanted brilliant people. When all was done it was the leader's insane understudy who became the leader. Wish I could remember the name.
Ward Tipton Added Aug 19, 2018 - 10:27pm
I have not done this intentionally but have run into it, and I do consider it important. I'm looking for a unified theory that would explain all of this, I think its good to think in terms of a reductionist in solving problems.
 
I do not know that there is any truly unified theory, though I do believe you are on the right track in terms of reductionism … is that even a word? I believe your reductionist views are spot on. How is that? Stephen Hawkings has theoretically proven (another contradiction in terms?) that a Quantum Singularity such as the Big Bang would not only have created the universe as we know it, but also time as we know it … before time was, I am. What would it take to create a Big Bang? Enough energy to convert energy into matter? And we see that God is a God of boundless energy … remember Moses was unable to look upon him directly … an existence of energy perhaps? Then again, if God were small enough for us to understand, he would not be big enough to be God.
 
I think that there is a "death cult", a cult that is meant to destroy not only everyone it can but itself as well (Judaism). I don't think they rule at all but are lead to believe that they do. I see the secret societies the same way.
 
Whether you call them the Bankers, Banksters or Judaism, the Illuminati or any other name, the principles are the same, all about rule and control … though interestingly enough, I think that by and large it is a number of groups, cooperating as they must, competing for advantage when they can, all working in loose cooperation and fierce competition to rule over us. In the sixties and seventies we were called crazy conspiracy theorists for even believing in asinine theories like the existence of a Bilderberg Group or Bohemian Grove … forget about the Gulf of Tonkin, The Maine and other red flag ops. These days, we have been vindicated by the open acknowledgment of their existence and the release of government records showing certain actions were in fact red flags. I do not think all those crazy conspiracy theories are so crazy … but if you knew my background and why I am in the situation that I am in … you may just think me crazy too ;)
 
I think narcissism is a major component, where the professional thinks himself better than the common labourer, but is not sufficiently educated to realize that he can do more harm (and often does) than the common labourer. The professional considers himself having a greater value in society - it would be true if he was sufficiently trained in basic reasonable (ethical/moral) principles, otherwise he is the opposite.
 
I would say that this is especially true among the mid-level management group we know as Leftist and Rightist Politicians doing the real bidding of the people actually in charge of the world.
 
I think there is a weak correlation between success and IQ. My labour economics professor believed there was none at all back in the 90's when I was in school. (Jordan Peterson says there is) Personally I think there is a small correlation - some professions simply require a high IQ - top docs, engineers, etc. Mostly, I think, success is brought by hard work and discipline as well as a clear mind.
 
I think they are by and large unrelated. I generally score between 99.2 and 99.6 on the percentile scale yet here I sit. There may be a direct correlation in fields wherein such skills are pertinent but take your Brain Surgeon for example, it is all for naught if he does not have the hands … unless we can automate the operational procedure which is not altogether unlikely. What happens when computers take over the thinking though? When we have computer programs doing our investments and trading on wall street, what happens when one computer program takes on another? IQ is over-rated … mind you, I do not think my EQ ever tested high enough to even get ranked … think about that for a moment hahahahahaha.
 
But CS Lewis was right when he said that people with a big education in the professions, or other, and none of it comprised of a study of ethics are easily corruptable and can be used to do a lot of damage. I'm currently studying Screwtape and finding it very enlightening. I had read it before but needed reminding of these basic principles.
 
Again, this seems especially fitting for the mid-level management we know as politicians.
 
 
Ward Tipton Added Aug 19, 2018 - 10:33pm
"i don't recall if i mentioned this to you or not, but i'm very careful about using the word "holy" to describe anything visible to the human eye and accessible to human hands. "
 
I would agree insofar as it implies some type of canonical recognition, generally from a diocese or other human intervention ... yet we know there is One God, One Man, and one Mediator between God and man, himself a man, Christ Jesus. 
 
As for the Bible, and interpreting it ... as I have noted, the same holds true with the Law and the Bible as it is written. If a man is married, it is better if he act as if he is single ... could be easily misinterpreted when taken out of context. Yet continuing, we see that it is so someone even so close as a spouse should not get between us and our studies and search of the Truth.  (Which is why I have always preferred a philosophical approach to faith rather than a religious approach to Christianity) We see in Peter that we should drink a little wine every day ... but we are also further cautioned to not be drunken, for it leads to debauchery. We know from Corinthians that woman (the church) does not have dominion over the man (the Christ) but we also see in Ephesians that a man and a woman are in subjection to each other through Christ. 
 
There is plenty of room already for misinterpretation, but yeah, no need to add to it I suppose, just very few of my conversations (regrettably) are with others capable of such nuanced understanding. 
Ward Tipton Added Aug 19, 2018 - 10:34pm
Doc, there has always been a very fine line between genius and insanity. It is inevitable that it will get crossed from time to time. 
FacePalm Added Aug 20, 2018 - 6:31am
Doug-
 Reason is represented by wine which gets better with age.
I've not heard this; i HAVE heard that "age is no guarantor of wisdom."  Some wines do NOT get better with age, but spoil and sour/grow vinegary, as well.
 
Reason does improve with age as things like laws and math improve with time as new rules are discovered and rough edges get rounded out.
Perhaps sometimes; "new math," for example, seems to keep getting more and more dumbed-down as new schoolbooks are issued, and/or more complicated "proofs" of "how you did you work" are required, instead of what should be the proper measure, i.e. arriving at the correct answer.  Laws, OTOH, are often made by those who wish not to SERVE us, but to RULE us.
 
(I'm NOT talking about statutes, which are man made laws).
It is my understanding that most "statutes" are "contract law," and often rely upon the theory of an "implied social contract;" the "law" makes certain assumptions about us all which stand unless and until directly refuted...for example, that you, the man, are the ALL CAPS NAME or that you have voluntarily, if tacitly, agreed to abide by the terms of the several bankruptcies of the UNITED STATES, Inc., and/or the various States which now are the "STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA" or the "COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS," ad nauseum.  Positive law, however, is quite something else.
 
Kant explains this in Religion Within The Bounds of mere Reason. Its why reason is the wine.
So my surmise was correct; you don't have a citation of Christ to this effect.
 
Everyone knows reason gets better with age.
Must be because i'm not "everyone" that i disagree; you have heard, perhaps, of senility, Alzheimers, and senile dementia?  i don't think it prudent to give much credence to the "everyone knows" argument...
FacePalm Added Aug 20, 2018 - 6:34am
Ward-
Everything written by Paul i look at with deep suspicion, for i found at least 8 places where what Paul teaches is directly opposite to the teachings of Christ.  My succinct explanation is that "there's no salvation in Paul."  i can get more verbose, if you like...*grin*  i even have a folder saved which is entitled "Paul vs. Christ contradictions."
Ward Tipton Added Aug 20, 2018 - 7:23am
But we see in the later Hebraic writings evidence of where the Church becomes a religious institution of men, teaching the traditions of men and teaching that tickles the ear ... some is evidenced in the writings of Paul as well. While the Christ was here to offer salvation through the fulfillment of the law, it was primarily in regards to the Israelite. Paul on the other hand, was sent forth to teach unto the gentiles. 
 
I take great comfort from Saul that if there was hope for him, there is perhaps some hope for me through the grace of God ... but I still figure on trying to accomplish some works before my time goes. 
 
Agreed about salvation ... which is part of what I have against many organized religious institutions of men. Wherein they want us to put our faith in the church (the bride) rather than in Christ (the bridegroom ... back to Corinth ... the woman does not have dominion over the man) All men fall short of the glory of God. No man is so holy that he can even save himself, much less save others. 
 
Yes, the scriptural references abound in regards to this. It to me is akin to praying to the father, son and the holy spirit ... but within scriptures that is only in regards to baptism ... cleansing ... and not in regards to prayer. Further we also know ... and it may have been somewhere on another thread and not here ... but in the Aramaic, the Holy Spirit is referred to in the feminine not the masculine. Again going back to scriptures, we see in Peter that Christ was begat by a woman ... conceived by a woman ... not just given birth to. It is an interesting study. 
 
I am curious what both you and Doug think about the Zohar or the original Kabbalah ... not the new-age hollyweird version, but the original texts? 
Ward Tipton Added Aug 20, 2018 - 7:24am
Doc - That being said, if you can remember the title, I am always open for some less strenuous reading as well! Please. 
Doug Plumb Added Aug 20, 2018 - 10:07am
re "Kant explains this in Religion Within The Bounds of mere Reason. Its why reason is the wine.
So my surmise was correct; you don't have a citation of Christ to this effect.
 
Everyone knows reason gets better with age.
Must be because i'm not "everyone" that i disagree; you have heard, perhaps, of senility, Alzheimers, and senile dementia?  i don't think it prudent to give much credence to the "everyone knows" argument...  "
 
Ward, the wine thing is a parabol. Everything Christ said was in parabol.
The teaching of math is probably getting worse, due to the dumbing down of education, but take Andrew Wilde who proved Fermats Last Theorem recently. Math gets better with age. Liebniz notation made calculus available to the masses. Linear algebra gets better and better all the time.
Ari Silverstein Added Aug 20, 2018 - 1:49pm
“That was the basic intention of the post, to note how so many here are convinced that they alone are purveyors of the truth, or only they are enlightened enough to impart knowledge upon the rest of us poor and piteous souls here.”
 
When people express their opinion, they aren’t saying they alone are purveyors of the truth.  As we age, we expose ourselves to all sorts of individuals and information that help to form our opinion.  While I’m sure some of us do stand on some island, the opinions we develop are likely shared by many.  Hopefully we don’t become too set in our ways that we stop listening to alternative opinions, but I see nothing wrong with the belief one’s opinions are right and those that disagree with us are wrong.  It’s only the stupid that would label dissenters as “poor and piteous.”  If you wish people to hold the same beliefs as you, you need to be polite and respectful to whatever view they may have that you know to be wrong. 
FacePalm Added Aug 20, 2018 - 5:55pm
If you wish people to hold the same beliefs as you, you need to be polite and respectful to whatever view they may have that you know to be wrong.
 
Some people - perhaps most, IME - do not respond well to politeness and respect.  I've seen many take that kindness as weakness, and so trash your good intentions and attempt to demean, debase, belittle, and denigrate, instead.
 
That said, i do WISH what you said was true.
 
To cite the sadistic prison warden in Cool Hand Luke, "Some people, ya jes' cain't reach."
But maybe different approaches will have an eventual cumulative effect.  What i mean is that where things i might say don't make a dent, perhaps someone else who says something similar but in a way the other can understand it will eventually get through.
 
Me, i'll try patience, attempt persuasion and reason and politeness at first, but if all i get for my trouble is negative feedback, never a good thing to say about anyone ever, i just do my best to ignore this type.
 
i'm secure enough in what i believe and practice that i can let others be as they choose to be, and let it go - not always, mind, but that's certainly what i reach for.
 
Spartacus Added Aug 21, 2018 - 12:17am
A really good article, Ward.  Thank you.
 
My two cents:
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man had better be a fucking good teacher
That is the lesson I learned from your post.  And I think it quite true. 
 
The one-eyed dude also must be very good at discerning between those who are open to learning and those who would burn their own house down to smoke out a rat.
Opes Added Aug 21, 2018 - 10:10am
This is food for thought and well written. 
FacePalm Added Aug 21, 2018 - 12:37pm
Ward-
You asked:
I am curious what both you and Doug think about the Zohar or the original Kabbalah ... not the new-age hollyweird version, but the original texts?
 
I've never heard of the "Zohar," and i checked into the Kabbalah briefly.  i watched a youtube testimony of an ex-satanist who related that "all magic eventually leads to the devil," so if there's magic involved, i think my interest would be nil.
 
That said, i'll websearch Zohar and see what comes up; sounds like a pseudonym for that Sasha Cohen dude.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 21, 2018 - 9:36pm
Facepalm, these books have been sanitized. Get the Oxford editions. I have not read the Zohar and only leafed through the Talmud. I mostly read general law and politics. I've studied Adorno and Horkheimer, which is also essentially Jewish. Judaism is purely empirical.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 21, 2018 - 9:40pm
re "Ward, the wine thing is a parabol. Everything Christ said was in parabol."
 
Expressions of the common law also improved. Compare Kant with the Greek Golden rule, then add in lawful devices such as trusts, ..Back in the days of Rome, all the smart people went there to study law - for a thousand years (Savigny or Austin - forget which one).
FacePalm Added Aug 21, 2018 - 9:52pm
Doug-
i think the word you may be looking for is "parable."
i found www.zohar.com , and although there appears to be a good deal of preparatory material, i've yet to find a working link to the whole book.
The fact that the nutbar Madonna practices Kabbalah is enough to persuade me to steer clear of it, but there may be something to this Zohar thing. 
i'll keep reading when i get/take the time.
 
The best book i ever read - and i've not finished it - is "The Excellence of the Common Law," by Brent Winters.  Several years ago, i lent it to a friend who was studying to be a paralegal; she thought she'd lost it(though it turned out that another waitress had put it away), and so went to see how much it would be to replace it - and apparently, it was over a kbux!  But i got mine from his website for far less.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 22, 2018 - 7:48pm
Facepalm, this sounds like a good book. I learned the common law by reading the great scholars of the past, Pufendorf, Savigny, Autin, Kant, and a few others. There is a great basic book on jurisprudence by John Salmond, it was the standard text used in teaching attorneys jurisprudence theory prior to Bretton Woods, after that they stopped teaching it as far as I know.
As far as writings such as Zohar, get the Oxford copy, else its all just sanitized.
Its worth reading I'm sure. Christianity and the common law is about universal law to bring peace to mankind. Jews want world domination which is why they are completely empirical.
FacePalm Added Aug 23, 2018 - 1:24pm
Doug-
i'll do what i can about finding the "Oxford" version of The Zohar, thanks.  Still not certain what you mean about "sanitized," though.
Never heard of John Salmond, but i'll websearch him in a bit and see what i can find.
Never heard of Pufendorf or Autin, but i'm pretty sure i have some citations by Savigny, and i KNOW i have a few of Kant.
 
As to your last point, i never lump all people into one category.  i am absolutely certain that SOME Jews, mostly Zionists, want world-domination - but i know for a fact that in Israel, many Jews protest AGAINST Zionism and it's adherents quite a bit. 
By way of partial explanation, my paternal grandfather often blamed every problem in the world on "da nigras and da joos" and claimed that "Hitler had a good idea," so i've been completely disgusted by anyone who exhibits that sort of blind prejudice since i was a teenager.  If, OTOH, you can name SPECIFIC Jews that you have good reason to despise, i can certainly do some research on that, myself.
 
i'm certainly not fond of the Rothschilds and their various acolytes, mostly represented in the unincorporated banks which headquarter in Basel, Switzerland, however, the Bank of International Settlements, for IMO, they're part and parcel of the Beast that Deceived the Whole World by their long-planned mission to convince most people that paper is money, instead of a receipt for what makes the paper good, i.e. the gold or silver it once represented.  Ok, enough run-on sentences.
The Burghal Hidage Added Aug 24, 2018 - 8:51am
Nicely done Ward!
 
Incidentally that performance by Brad Pitt convinced me that he was a real actor. Before that I had my doubts...
 
One ought treat the blind with charity, but those with eyes who refuse to see are only worthy of our contempt.
Stone-Eater Added Aug 24, 2018 - 8:55am
Ward
 
Good one. The one who thinks he knows the truth should have his IQ checked.
Stone-Eater Added Aug 24, 2018 - 8:56am
BTW: Sorry, "truth". Important.....
Doug Plumb Added Aug 24, 2018 - 9:08am
There may not be an Oxford version of the Zohar, although I have heard that there is. By sanitized, I mean all the really bad stuff taken out or hidden. An example is the Jewish Talmud. It basically states "everything" in its thirty or so volumes. Basically a Jew can do no wrong and a non Jew has no rights other than to serve the Jew. But it says a lot of other things. There are sanitized versions of the Talmud that do not include phrases like "Even the best of the Goyim deserves to have his head crushed like a snake" - "Ram Bam" / Maimonides - the top Jewish law scholar. All the good stuff in the Talmud will remain in the condensed versions that you may find on Amazon.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 24, 2018 - 9:13am
re "Never heard of John Salmond, but i'll websearch him in a bit and see what i can find."
 
  Salmond just explains the common law. Its a text book, like an intro Chemistry book. If you are really into reading something good, read Screwtape. I like Savigny but I will learn more from CS Lewis, but I'm nearly done with CS. Kant is the undisputed master really, but Kant takes a huge effort over a long time before the payoff even begins, and its a huge payoff. If you want to read Kant there are prerequisites that are long hard reads (Sabastian Gardners book and also Kantian Logic). I also really liked Allan Blooms Plato's Republic - for his 100 page essay at the back. No one knows the Greeks better than the U Of Chicago School.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 24, 2018 - 9:53am
re " but i know for a fact that in Israel, many Jews protest AGAINST Zionism and it's adherents quite a bit. "
 
The word "Jew" refers to their rulers, not the Jewish people. This is in the OT. "Jew" means banker or lawyer, and they do the same things to the Jewish people as everyone else. No one likes all these wars or seeing what Israel gets away with, especially Jewish people living in Israel. Some of them are truly outstanding human beings, especially those young members of the IDF that quit.
FacePalm Added Aug 24, 2018 - 3:16pm
Interesting.
i'd always heard that "Jew" was a contraction of "Judah," one of the 12 Patriarchs, ergo one of the 12/13(half-tribe of Ephriam, iirc) tribes of Israel...all of which, besides the tribe of Judah, are apparently the "lost" tribes.
 
I have a citation from C.S. Lewis' Screwtape Letters, i think.  Tell me if you recognize this one:
 
"What I want to fix your attention on is the vast overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how 'democracy' (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient dictatorships, and by the same methods? The basic proposal of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' Children who are fit to proceed may be artificially kept back, because the others would get a trauma by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT. We may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when 'I'm as good as you' has fully had its way. All incentives to learn and all penalties for not learning will vanish. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway, the teachers -- or should I say nurses? -- will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men."
-- C. S. Lewis(1898-1963), British novelist
 
i thought i remembered another - a phrase in it went something like "democracy - in the incantory sense" - but i can't find it, now, neither in my collection or online.  Perhaps it has something to do with the so-called "Mandela effect."
 
FacePalm Added Aug 24, 2018 - 3:33pm
Oh, and i did find a John A. Salmond; it appears he has several ponderous tomes to his credit, including one(maybe 2) on "torts."
But my situation is such that these days if it's not available online, i don't have the funds to waste on any more books; i literally have over 150 NOW that i've ordered, received, and have not yet read.
 
Also, i meant to say earlier that The Excellence of the Common Law was the best book SO FAR that i'd gotten on the common law, not the "best book ever."  My preference in that category is The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
 
But as to the law itself, i'm currently taking a course via howtowinincourt.com, and i've been learning quite a bit of relevant-to-my-life material at youarelaw.org as well as freedomfromgovernment.org
Eric Reports Added Aug 25, 2018 - 2:21pm
People have their own preconceived notions.  One wants to be your best friend, the other your worst enemy.  I'm done trying to figure it out.
FacePalm Added Aug 25, 2018 - 6:25pm
A long time ago, a fella named "Tacitus" opined something akin to the following:
"One who does good to you will be your best friend; one to whom you do good will be your worst enemy."
 
Not sure exactly how that works, but i've experienced the truth of it, myself.
Doug Plumb Added Aug 25, 2018 - 6:51pm
Facepalm, It sounds like something CS would say, there is some stuff I listened to about him on Youtube, but Screwtape is a work of fiction - sort of. I looked at what Anne Coulture likes to read and her favorite is CS' "Mere Christianity", not a bad book, but doesn't hold a candle to Kant. He doesn't say anything like this in that either. I have heard him talk along empirical lines and he has talked like this. I would not be surprised if he said it.
  If you want something really great on philosophy, look up Rick Roderick or History Of Philosophy playlist by Arthur Holmes on Wheaton College. I haven't heard anyone talking about Kant on youtube that I particularly like, except when Holmes does it.
FacePalm Added Aug 25, 2018 - 8:50pm
I was going through my collection of "Liberty Quotes," and found it.
 
“Be assured those will be thy worst enemies, not to whom thou hast done evil, but who have done evil to thee. And those will be thy best friends, not to whom thou hast done good, but who have done good to thee.”
~Tacitus
Ward Tipton Added Aug 26, 2018 - 8:51pm
The Kabbalah I was referring to is not the new age pseudo version as practiced by the hollyweird elite, but the original scriptures/texts. 
 
More to come as I catch up from no connections for a week. 

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