Is Trump an evil Mr. Magoo?

Ever since Trump got elected he's been portrayed as an evil version of Mr. Magoo.  According to the news he's a racist, womanizing, uneducated buffoon with no idea what he's doing who seems to have amazing luck despite all his faults.


I must admit the economy took a sharp turn up and has continued doing amazingly well, since he got in office.  Some of the news media claims, his own cabinet is ready to invoke the 25th Amendment because he's so off the rails, I hope they don't because I like how the economy has responded to his presidency.


Things are great, not just for rich white people for most Americans and even minorities.  I don't want to return to the economic and employment conditions that we had before he got elected.


Maybe he's actually good at running the country in a way that benefits most Americans.


Lindsay Wheeler Added Sep 6, 2018 - 11:31am
President Trump is highly qualified and educated to run America. President Trump is doing a fantastic job. He is an alpha male with supreme leadership qualities. He has the courage of his convictions and stands on his convictions and platforms. 
His Integrity puts all past presidents to shame. He is actually obedient to his campaign promises!  He is the first to complete all of his campaign promises.   And he is not going to giving Amnesty like Ronald Reagan did. President Reagan destroyed California's Republican majority when he agreed with the Democratic Congress amnesty to some six million Hispanics!  President Reagan destroyed his own party!  and America with that. 
President Trump is a true Patriot. His building the Wall and strict immigration enforcement is a sign of his great Patriotism and his job of protecting us. 
Rusty Smith Added Sep 6, 2018 - 12:01pm
Lindsay Wheeler I don't know if he's going to be able to do all the things he wants, like build a border wall, because he's hated by the Democrats and even most Republicans.  I must admit, everyone's 401K is looking much better since he got in office.
Every President has had issues, I try to look more at how the country does during their tenure.  I'll gladly let Trump misbehave if the country phrosphers as a result.
In fact the country is doing so well I often wonder if the news media is just making up news out of things that don't really matter.  They keep complaining, and the economy keeps getting better and better.  I do wonder if they report on BS because they have nothing better to talk about.
George N Romey Added Sep 6, 2018 - 12:14pm
Trump in some ways is what we need.  I plain blunt spoken individual that dispenses with pc statements and decorum. As I've said before we've other Presidents far more crude and rude than Trump.  The difference is that Trump has no political savvy.  He isn't willing to learn how to play the game.  Some Presidents have done so and while there were definitely pockets of hate they found ways to get much of their agenda through.  Trump just isn't that smart and cunning to play big league Washington DC politics.
Luckily for Trump I think some corporations are getting the idea that a future downtrodden US will destroy the world economy (and their businesses.).  We are still certainly far from the economic ideal days of the 50s and 60s and structure issues relating to ever growing levels of debt are abound.  However, there has been some improvement.  Trump like any President will take full credit.
Add to that the Democratic Party has nothing.  Their entire "the Russians are coming" is nothing more than a national embarrassment. The Russians are going to do what to Americans, maybe make them buy more cheap vodka?
Bill H. Added Sep 6, 2018 - 12:27pm
The economy has been recovering since the latter part of Obama's tenure. In fact their were GDP growth numbers back then exceeding Trump's numbers.
We should concentrate on what are the worst deficit of trade numbers in the last 8 years.
Lindsay - Like many Trump supporters, you have fallen for his "dominating alpha male" character, which he uses to take advantage of the submissive minions who support him. This trick has been used by other narcissistic world leaders in past history and we have witnessed the results. Trump will (and is) proving to be an unstable danger to our country. Thank goodness it appears that even many in his party are just figuring this out.
Good numbers don't always reflect good outcomes.
opher goodwin Added Sep 6, 2018 - 12:30pm
According to the news he's a racist, womanizing, uneducated buffoon.
Well that seems about right to me. You could add greedy bastard too.
When you chuck out all the environmental restraints, make massive tax cuts, remove worker protection you do certainly stimulate economic growth (and who gets the biggest share of that? You guessed it!).
The dire results of this short-term thinking comes further down the line. But most people are myopic.
Rusty Smith Added Sep 6, 2018 - 12:40pm
George N Romey not that long ago we found out that during the Reagan years several Democrats including Sen. Edward “Ted” Kennedy and Sen. John Tunney, collued with the Russians in an attempt to sway American voters.  Nothing was done and that was overtly subversive behavior.  It's no secret we have the notes from the meetings.
I think Trump has no personal association with Russian collusion and that's why he's always been so arrogant about that topic.  The news media and his critics can't find anything real so they blog about other people's speculations on the topic for lack of anything better to talk about.
Similarly I think they had to be awful desperate to report the current story, where a supposedly anonymous member of Trump's own cabinet has said he and other members of the cabinet, (that Trump selected), all want to throw him out.  The story is likely 100% fake news and they have nothing else so they printed it.  
opher goodwin Added Sep 6, 2018 - 3:53pm
There's the success of Trump, Rusty. He has successfully made everybody doubt every negative thing written about him. It's all fake news.
George N Romey Added Sep 6, 2018 - 3:54pm
Again, attempt to sway Americans how?  What? Boris somebody showing up in the middle of the night telling someone to vote a certain way or their house will be nuked?  I don't think anyone voted for either Trump, Clinton, Stein or Johnson because the "Russians made them do it."  In fact with our country becoming totally divided less and less will people be willing to look at the other side.  If the Russians had an ounce of sense they'd stay far away from the farce and cheesy reality show that our national politics have become.
Maybe Trump wanted to make friends with the Russians so that he could build hotels there.  Either way its far better for two countries not to be mortal enemies with nukes.  We have to stop thinking the "American Way" needs to be honored everywhere.  If the Russian people elected Putin, or allowed him to take the election that's their issue.
Bill H. Added Sep 6, 2018 - 3:54pm
I don't think it is "fake news". I have an acquaintance that works within the political machine in DC, and this person mentioned over a year ago that members of Trump's cabinet were all very concerned about many of Trump's actions and decisions.
As with just about all of what the Trumpie's are calling "fake news", it is simply news that the Trumpie's don't want to hear, as it of course is uncomforting. I'm sure many of you Trumpie's remember how uncomfortable the Democrat's were with news of Bill Clinton's encounter with Monica Lewinsky. Back then you had to face reality, as just brushing off the news as "fake news" hadn't been thought of yet.
opher goodwin Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:01pm
George I don't think the Russians do it so overtly. They use psychological ploys to play on peoples concerns and fears.
opher goodwin Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:02pm
Bill - I agree. Anything that causes a problem for Trump is labelled fake news and his supporters wear it.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:05pm
Trump is a hero and a modern Saint George fighting the evil dragons. 
What he says has to be said. What he does has to be done. 
Ken Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:17pm
Some of the news media claims, his own cabinet is ready to invoke the 25th Amendment because he's so off the rails
Unless something major and clear evidence is found this won't ever happen.  It is harder to replace a president using the 25th amendment than it is to remove through impeachment.
impeachment requires a 50%+1 vote in the house to pass the articles (indictment).  It then requires 2/3 of the senate to remove from office (convict)
The 25th amendment requires a 2/3 vote in BOTH houses.
Those that are discussing it are just using it as talking points to push the agenda.  It isn't even remotely realistic.
Dino Manalis Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:22pm
 Trump isn't perfect, no one is, but Trumponomics has prevailed and people are seeing positive results!
Ken Added Sep 6, 2018 - 4:24pm
That's right Opher, what an evil greedy bastard to sign tax cuts that let the producer and worker keep more of the wealth they create rather than putting it in the coffers of the bureaucrats!
Darn those evil tax cuts! Darn them to hell!
FacePalm Added Sep 6, 2018 - 9:07pm
If i'm not mistaken, JFK used a similar strategy when he was president, that is, cut the taxes, let companies hire more people whose wages are taxed, flooding the Treasury, while simultaneously reducing those on welfare.
Worked during Reagan's presidency, too.
It's working now, and will continue to work; it's a winning strategy.  History has repeatedly proven it.
But i have a whole thread on how stupid the dummiecrats have been, and why they'll lose the mid-terms and just about every election out to the foreseeable horizon, so i won't bore anyone posting here with repeatedly redundant repetition.
i don't buy the "evil Mr. MaGoo" theory, though; Mr. Magoo managed to avoid traps lots of evil people set for him by what appears to be sheer happenstance and his general good nature, even when he was being grumpy.
i could buy a "regular" Mr. MaGoo," though, except for the fact that Trump is actually damn smart - and he's sure made a helluva lot of people who THOUGHT they were smart look incredibly stupid.  i just reviewed election night footage of MadCow a few minutes back, interspersed with selected scenes from the old Batman teevee series; hilarious, especially at the end when she was moaning about how this is our reality, now.  This the exact same MadCow who slowly went through EXACTLY why The Liar was gonna win, to boot.
And ever since, of course, she's never wasted any opportunity to trash the president, often avoiding libel laws by posing her insinuations as "questions," like "Is it really true that Donald is beating his wife?  Why haven't we seen her in so long?  Could it be she's waiting for a black eye to heal?", and similar crapola...often echoed by the talking heads of every other globalist-owned "network," usually using the EXACT SAME PHRASEOLOGY....why, it's almost as if there's a CONSPIRACY to slant the "news," like there's a "script" being sent out from a central location...
Nah...couldn't be...right?
Rusty Smith Added Sep 6, 2018 - 11:52pm
Ken I know we want so much to burn him at the cross or tar and feather him and run him out on a rail, but darn if we do we might just end up back in the recession.
So many choices...  What can we do, his style stinks but the results are fantastic.  If I wasn't so greedy and didn't care so much about my own 401K I might have the guts to say kick him to the curb.  See... the greed even gets to me.
Lindsay Wheeler Added Sep 7, 2018 - 4:43am
Wow, Rusty, what a materialist you are!  I thought your OP was pro-Trump and then you say "If I wasn't so greedy and didn't care so much about my own 401K I might have the guts to say kick him to the curb."  What two-faced.  He is the First Republican President WHO FIGHTS BACK!!  He is the ONLY one who does that. Bush let the Press walk all over him!  
Because of Filthy Lucre, you do anything---but for Virtue's sake?  Does a citizen operate on Virtue or Filthy Lucre?
Wow. Your attitude is something to behold! You want to "Burn him at the cross or tar and feather him"??? Who the hell are you? What kind of person are you?
opher goodwin Added Sep 7, 2018 - 6:45am
Ken - that's a $100 for you and $1,000,000 for me and everybody's happy.
Dr. Rupert Green Added Sep 7, 2018 - 7:17am
Trump is a man who stands and releases his Johnson as opposed to other pussified men who sit on the potty to do so. I admire him in that regard. Though I voted for Trump, he places me in a position as to whether I would contradict him and fight and die to preserve the Constitution or be engaged in groupthink action of those who would blindly follow him as he ravages the Constitution.
FacePalm Added Sep 7, 2018 - 10:17am
i've read the Constitution through many, many times - i even found a way to do a word-search of it - and i've yet to see how Trump has "ravaged" the Constitution at all.
Despite his tough talk on the campaign trail, i haven't seen where he violated the 8th Amendment by ordering the torture of any prisoners, either - and i hope he continues with that; one never defeats barbarism by being as bad or worse than your "enemy."
i've seen how D'OhBama committed treason by aiding long-sworn and self-described enemies of the united States, though.
Rusty Smith Added Sep 7, 2018 - 10:59am
Lindsay Wheeler yes, I am a conservative realist and want America to thrive.  I dislike deficit spending and think it should be illegal except when real wars, like WW1 & 2 happen, or possibly recover from huge natural disaster.
I want a leader who can make that happen, and will vote for the guy who can do the job every time, even if he says stupid things and has a reputation for being a bit of a womanizer.
When the country does well so do people's 401K, and I'm willing to overlook the little stuff to that end.  Boys Scouts might be all honest, polite and kind, but they often make lousy leaders because they rarely have the gumption, and stomach for the type of hardball it takes to be an effective leader.
Incidentally I only used 401K as an illustrative point, I never had one.  I like investing my own money.
John Minehan Added Sep 7, 2018 - 1:17pm
Trump is not a broadly educated man.  He has a degree from Wharton (a great business school) in Commercial Real Estate, the most narrow degree possible that prepared him for what he spent most of his life doing.
He is, by all accounts, a narrow, incurious and rather crass man. 
He is not a brilliant business man like Mitt Romney nor is he a visionary like Steve Jobs.
In fact, what he mostly is would be a tireless self-promoter, a kind of a con man in a way.  He is a salesman whose best product is himself.
But here is the thing: being what he is requires a great eye for the main chance, a sense of when you have worn out your welcome, an ability to read the table that is even more developed than an ability to read the cards.
Trump lacks either deep knowledge or high moral principals and, in a changing world, that might just be the sort of man you need as a leader.
The jury is (literally) still out, but the great unwashed might have gotten this one right.    
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 7, 2018 - 1:49pm
Rusty and Lindsay,
Trump is unqualified to run this man. The man is dumb and refuses to listen to people who are trying to give him advice. Trump is a liar and acts like a bully. Real leaders don't need bullying to be a great leader.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 7, 2018 - 1:50pm
I mean to run this nation.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Sep 7, 2018 - 1:53pm
Are you sure you know what you mean? I only see hate here. 
Rusty Smith Added Sep 7, 2018 - 1:58pm
Gregory S. McNeill which great Presidents can you think of that were just "nice guys", who didn't push people around?  I can't think of any.  There were Presidents that I thought were real nice guys,  like Carter who I'd have loved to have as a neighbor, but he was too nice and America got pushed around when he was in office.  
Given that you think he's not got what it takes, how do you account for his fantastic success with the economy and employment?  Is he just supper lucky?  Are businesses just too stupid to realize he's not making America more business friendly?  Is his favorable rating even in the Black community going up because he's fooled them into believing his policies have gotten more of them jobs than ever before?
John Minehan Added Sep 7, 2018 - 2:31pm
"Given that you think he's not got what it takes, how do you account for his fantastic success with the economy and employment?  Is he just supper lucky?  Are businesses just too stupid to realize he's not making America more business friendly?"
It could just be where the business cycle was when he took office.
He did some things I liked with deregulation (although I don't think he was all that involved with that) and reducing taxes (although a broader, permanent rate cut would have been better), that I think were beneficial, but it just might be that the tax cuts have just artificially prolonged an expansion and the contraction might be more painful as a result. 
Let's see.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Sep 7, 2018 - 4:19pm
John  Minehan
"It could just be where the business cycle was when he took office."
No way
Pure nonsense. Even some lefties  admit that the Obama track was anti-business and that a 2 % growth per year [or much less] was the New Normal in Obama's pitiful words. 
Obama Warns of ‘New Normal’ for Economy
"On getting discouraged: “I do get discouraged, I mean, there are times where I thought the economy would have gotten better by now. One of the things I think you understand as president is you’re held responsible for everything. Especially an economy this big – there are limited tools to encourage the kind of job growth that we need.”"--
This mindless prattle is set to say that we cannot do better so let us keep taxes high and regulations higher so we can keep in power and cut some steam off the right and business types. 
Trump cut taxes and regulations and that defeated the left. Period. 
And, there is more to come. 
But as a challenge let us  put forth a challenge to the left to help the economy, reduce crime, lower health problems, address the illegal immigration without raising taxes!
I would like to hear that .
Rusty Smith Added Sep 7, 2018 - 6:31pm
John Minehan I can assure you many businesses felt like Obama was trying to kick them in the nuts and holding their breath when it came to expanding and hiring until they were sure he and his heavy handed regulations were on the way out.
I know many businesses that viewed Trumps attitude about overregulation as a breath of fresh air and an opportunity they had to take advantage of while they could. They added equipment and employees to capitalize on the window they thought was there believing it might only last as long as Trump's Presidency.
All the jobs they created were no accident or coincidence, they are because Trump got elected.
That's not to say that things don't cycle or that a President can't inherit good or bad situations, but in this case, Trump really has inspired the economy and jobs just like a sale inspires shoppers in a store.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 7, 2018 - 6:37pm
Trump is a failed businessman who has been broke 6 times. He is the real Mr. Magoo.
John Minehan Added Sep 7, 2018 - 6:46pm
"Pure nonsense. Even some lefties  admit that the Obama track was anti-business and that a 2 % growth per year [or much less] was the New Normal in Obama's pitiful words."
You don't quite follow. 
Even if (and I tend to agree) the Obama Administration did  a lot that delayed the recovery, there is still a business cycle and expansions "run out of gas."  That this one hasn't may just be a matter of luck. 
It also might just be a "dead cat bounce" from the tax cuts.  It is a bit too early to tell, although tax cuts and regulatory right -sizing are generally the best approach. 
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 7, 2018 - 6:53pm
it is a fact. Trump has broken bankrupt 6 times!! Obama was anti business because he wanted to prevent the mistakes that was made 10 years ago before he came into office. The GOP had undermined him. Now America is a bad state and about to make the same mistakes that put our nation in the state that was in. 
John Minehan Added Sep 7, 2018 - 7:00pm
"Trump is a failed businessman who has been broke 6 times. He is the real Mr. Magoo."
It is not uncommon for developers to have  business entities fail or be abandoned.  Trump's biggest (and lest explicable) foul-up was losing money in casinos.
His come back was rather remarkable.  He is a great salesman and, like most great salesmen, his best product is himself.   
FacePalm Added Sep 8, 2018 - 12:12am
It is my understanding(feel free to correct me if i'm in error) that Trump has well over a thousand different businesses.  Assuming JUST a thousand businesses, though, if 6 of them failed, well, let's see; 10% of a thousand is a hundred; 10% of a hundred would be 10; 10% of 10 would be 1%, and 10% of 1 would be .1%.  So, unless my math is way off, that would mean that Trump's businesses failed less than .6% of the time, which is a success rate of 99.4%, which is remarkable for ANY businessman...and accounts for his billionaire status.  (it's also entirely possible that i missed a decimal point somewhere, but the REAL point will NOT be missed, i hope.)
So, tell me, Greg - how many businesses are YOU running today?  Do you sign the FRONT or the BACK of your checks?
And there's no evidence that the Trump economy is even slowing DOWN, much less "about to fail."  Soros bet big that the stock market would crash as soon as Trump took office - and LOST big, too.  He was a bigger billionaire than Trump at the time - Don't know what the comparison would be now, and don't care..  Tough noogies on him, but i suspect that the losses didn't sweeten his disposition a freckle...which accounts for the 18 BILLION Soros pumped into various US domestic terrorist orgs like Antifa.
Flying Junior Added Sep 8, 2018 - 1:28am
You are sick.  You need deprogramming.
Benjamin Goldstein Added Sep 8, 2018 - 7:03am
He was the only one who was willing to do the job. Ted Cruz was not mature enough to understand that the positions have to be defended no matter how loud a faux outrage is. It is okay to ask for arguments instead of huff and puff. Romney was a dud. Trump will be a role model for future candidates.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Sep 8, 2018 - 12:56pm
" And there's no evidence that the Trump economy is even slowing DOWN, much less "about to fail." "
This is just vain hope and sour grapes from the besotted left. 
Trump is a hero and Obama is a loser. 
"Trump will be a role model for future candidates."
For sure. It works!!
Rusty Smith Added Sep 8, 2018 - 1:28pm
Gregory S. McNeill I know several very successful business people who failed a few times and lost most of their money in the process before they got lucky and everything came together.
To win in a lot of businesses you have to have a lot of guts and often be willing to try things that more normal people don't have the balls to risk all their money on and then convince a whole lot of other people to take that plunge with some of their money at the same time.
Those are not traits that most of us have, and those types of people are usually found at the top of large successful corporations.  Many companies you know well, like FedEx almost failed out of existence before they managed to succeed but most people don't realize it today. 
Is the guy who invented FedEx a loser because he came inches away from bankruptcy or a brilliant leader for making it a success?  In your view he may be neither but you have to admit it's people like him that make things like that happen.
Perhaps you and most normal Americans would not be so bold and willing to take risks to see if your ideas might make substantial improvements, like the guy who invented FedEx, and Trump obviously are willing to do, but you should acknowledge it when they do and it works out well.  
If we wanted to make a substantial change in the economy, it wasn't going to happen if we kept doing the same ol things.  I understand those who thought Trump might take us from the frying pan to the fire, but that didn't happen. It's time to give a sigh of relief and give him credit for give him credit for the economic prosperity and high employment numbers he inspired.  They were not inspired by 8 years of government spending plans, and can't be explained by the continuation of the previous President's policies, they happened because Trump changed the rules and businesses responded positively.
Maybe you might say what Trump did was reckless and we're lucky he didn't take us from the frying pan to the fire, and hope no one that reckless is ever allowed to be President again, but admit what he did worked because it did.
Mr. Magoo got lucky and our economy and employment are better off as a result.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Sep 8, 2018 - 2:23pm
Rusty Smith
"To win in a lot of businesses you have to have a lot of guts and often be willing to try things that more normal people don't have the balls to risk all their money on and then convince a whole lot of other people to take that plunge with some of their money at the same time."
And, that is the risk and reward of capitalism! There is no counterpart in socialism or Marxism or other variants. 
FacePalm Added Sep 8, 2018 - 3:22pm
You are sick.  You need deprogramming.  
An interesting comment; accusations with no evidence, as if "J'accuse" suffices to make heads roll any longer.  News flash!  Not today...
i DID notice, however, that you didn't attempt to REFUTE any of the points that were made.  Guess you learned your lesson on another thread, eh?
(i wasn't sure of my math, either; on reflection i realized that 1 is 1% of a hundred, so .1 would be 1% of a thousand, though.  And i did some minimal websearching, too; turns out the number of businesses the Trump org got involved in was a bit over 500, so the margin of error could be double, and only 98.8% of his businesses could be said to have not gone bankrupt.  So a high A instead of an A+)
But now i want to get semi-serious for a minute; if in 6 years, the democrats win another election, then make it illegal for people like me to think the way we do, and offer rewards to turn us in, would you do so?   And what would be your price?  50 bux?  500?  5000? 10k?  More?
Flying Junior Added Sep 11, 2018 - 5:30am
Well, I guess with 18 Billion $$ of Soros money, Antifa and BLM should be able to do quite a bit of damage next year.  Merry Christmas.  Send money to your local Police Departments.  Pray for peace.