Ever since Trump got elected he's been portrayed as an evil version of Mr. Magoo. According to the news he's a racist, womanizing, uneducated buffoon with no idea what he's doing who seems to have amazing luck despite all his faults.
I must admit the economy took a sharp turn up and has continued doing amazingly well, since he got in office. Some of the news media claims, his own cabinet is ready to invoke the 25th Amendment because he's so off the rails, I hope they don't because I like how the economy has responded to his presidency.
Things are great, not just for rich white people for most Americans and even minorities. I don't want to return to the economic and employment conditions that we had before he got elected.
Maybe he's actually good at running the country in a way that benefits most Americans.
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His Integrity puts all past presidents to shame. He is actually obedient to his campaign promises! He is the first to complete all of his campaign promises. And he is not going to giving Amnesty like Ronald Reagan did. President Reagan destroyed California's Republican majority when he agreed with the Democratic Congress amnesty to some six million Hispanics! President Reagan destroyed his own party! and America with that.
President Trump is a true Patriot. His building the Wall and strict immigration enforcement is a sign of his great Patriotism and his job of protecting us.
Every President has had issues, I try to look more at how the country does during their tenure. I'll gladly let Trump misbehave if the country phrosphers as a result.
In fact the country is doing so well I often wonder if the news media is just making up news out of things that don't really matter. They keep complaining, and the economy keeps getting better and better. I do wonder if they report on BS because they have nothing better to talk about.
Luckily for Trump I think some corporations are getting the idea that a future downtrodden US will destroy the world economy (and their businesses.). We are still certainly far from the economic ideal days of the 50s and 60s and structure issues relating to ever growing levels of debt are abound. However, there has been some improvement. Trump like any President will take full credit.
Add to that the Democratic Party has nothing. Their entire "the Russians are coming" is nothing more than a national embarrassment. The Russians are going to do what to Americans, maybe make them buy more cheap vodka?
The economy has been recovering since the latter part of Obama's tenure. In fact their were GDP growth numbers back then exceeding Trump's numbers.
We should concentrate on what are the worst deficit of trade numbers in the last 8 years.
Lindsay - Like many Trump supporters, you have fallen for his "dominating alpha male" character, which he uses to take advantage of the submissive minions who support him. This trick has been used by other narcissistic world leaders in past history and we have witnessed the results. Trump will (and is) proving to be an unstable danger to our country. Thank goodness it appears that even many in his party are just figuring this out.
Good numbers don't always reflect good outcomes.
Well that seems about right to me. You could add greedy bastard too.
When you chuck out all the environmental restraints, make massive tax cuts, remove worker protection you do certainly stimulate economic growth (and who gets the biggest share of that? You guessed it!).
The dire results of this short-term thinking comes further down the line. But most people are myopic.
I think Trump has no personal association with Russian collusion and that's why he's always been so arrogant about that topic. The news media and his critics can't find anything real so they blog about other people's speculations on the topic for lack of anything better to talk about.
Similarly I think they had to be awful desperate to report the current story, where a supposedly anonymous member of Trump's own cabinet has said he and other members of the cabinet, (that Trump selected), all want to throw him out. The story is likely 100% fake news and they have nothing else so they printed it.
Maybe Trump wanted to make friends with the Russians so that he could build hotels there. Either way its far better for two countries not to be mortal enemies with nukes. We have to stop thinking the "American Way" needs to be honored everywhere. If the Russian people elected Putin, or allowed him to take the election that's their issue.
I don't think it is "fake news". I have an acquaintance that works within the political machine in DC, and this person mentioned over a year ago that members of Trump's cabinet were all very concerned about many of Trump's actions and decisions.
As with just about all of what the Trumpie's are calling "fake news", it is simply news that the Trumpie's don't want to hear, as it of course is uncomforting. I'm sure many of you Trumpie's remember how uncomfortable the Democrat's were with news of Bill Clinton's encounter with Monica Lewinsky. Back then you had to face reality, as just brushing off the news as "fake news" hadn't been thought of yet.
What he says has to be said. What he does has to be done.
Unless something major and clear evidence is found this won't ever happen. It is harder to replace a president using the 25th amendment than it is to remove through impeachment.
impeachment requires a 50%+1 vote in the house to pass the articles (indictment). It then requires 2/3 of the senate to remove from office (convict)
The 25th amendment requires a 2/3 vote in BOTH houses.
Those that are discussing it are just using it as talking points to push the agenda. It isn't even remotely realistic.
Darn those evil tax cuts! Darn them to hell!
Worked during Reagan's presidency, too.
It's working now, and will continue to work; it's a winning strategy. History has repeatedly proven it.
But i have a whole thread on how stupid the dummiecrats have been, and why they'll lose the mid-terms and just about every election out to the foreseeable horizon, so i won't bore anyone posting here with repeatedly redundant repetition.
i don't buy the "evil Mr. MaGoo" theory, though; Mr. Magoo managed to avoid traps lots of evil people set for him by what appears to be sheer happenstance and his general good nature, even when he was being grumpy.
i could buy a "regular" Mr. MaGoo," though, except for the fact that Trump is actually damn smart - and he's sure made a helluva lot of people who THOUGHT they were smart look incredibly stupid. i just reviewed election night footage of MadCow a few minutes back, interspersed with selected scenes from the old Batman teevee series; hilarious, especially at the end when she was moaning about how this is our reality, now. This the exact same MadCow who slowly went through EXACTLY why The Liar was gonna win, to boot.
And ever since, of course, she's never wasted any opportunity to trash the president, often avoiding libel laws by posing her insinuations as "questions," like "Is it really true that Donald is beating his wife? Why haven't we seen her in so long? Could it be she's waiting for a black eye to heal?", and similar crapola...often echoed by the talking heads of every other globalist-owned "network," usually using the EXACT SAME PHRASEOLOGY....why, it's almost as if there's a CONSPIRACY to slant the "news," like there's a "script" being sent out from a central location...
Nah...couldn't be...right?
So many choices... What can we do, his style stinks but the results are fantastic. If I wasn't so greedy and didn't care so much about my own 401K I might have the guts to say kick him to the curb. See... the greed even gets to me.
Because of Filthy Lucre, you do anything---but for Virtue's sake? Does a citizen operate on Virtue or Filthy Lucre?
Wow. Your attitude is something to behold! You want to "Burn him at the cross or tar and feather him"??? Who the hell are you? What kind of person are you?
Despite his tough talk on the campaign trail, i haven't seen where he violated the 8th Amendment by ordering the torture of any prisoners, either - and i hope he continues with that; one never defeats barbarism by being as bad or worse than your "enemy."
i've seen how D'OhBama committed treason by aiding long-sworn and self-described enemies of the united States, though.
I want a leader who can make that happen, and will vote for the guy who can do the job every time, even if he says stupid things and has a reputation for being a bit of a womanizer.
When the country does well so do people's 401K, and I'm willing to overlook the little stuff to that end. Boys Scouts might be all honest, polite and kind, but they often make lousy leaders because they rarely have the gumption, and stomach for the type of hardball it takes to be an effective leader.
Incidentally I only used 401K as an illustrative point, I never had one. I like investing my own money.
He is, by all accounts, a narrow, incurious and rather crass man.
He is not a brilliant business man like Mitt Romney nor is he a visionary like Steve Jobs.
In fact, what he mostly is would be a tireless self-promoter, a kind of a con man in a way. He is a salesman whose best product is himself.
But here is the thing: being what he is requires a great eye for the main chance, a sense of when you have worn out your welcome, an ability to read the table that is even more developed than an ability to read the cards.
Trump lacks either deep knowledge or high moral principals and, in a changing world, that might just be the sort of man you need as a leader.
The jury is (literally) still out, but the great unwashed might have gotten this one right.
Trump is unqualified to run this man. The man is dumb and refuses to listen to people who are trying to give him advice. Trump is a liar and acts like a bully. Real leaders don't need bullying to be a great leader.
Given that you think he's not got what it takes, how do you account for his fantastic success with the economy and employment? Is he just supper lucky? Are businesses just too stupid to realize he's not making America more business friendly? Is his favorable rating even in the Black community going up because he's fooled them into believing his policies have gotten more of them jobs than ever before?
It could just be where the business cycle was when he took office.
He did some things I liked with deregulation (although I don't think he was all that involved with that) and reducing taxes (although a broader, permanent rate cut would have been better), that I think were beneficial, but it just might be that the tax cuts have just artificially prolonged an expansion and the contraction might be more painful as a result.
Let's see.
"It could just be where the business cycle was when he took office."
No way
Pure nonsense. Even some lefties admit that the Obama track was anti-business and that a 2 % growth per year [or much less] was the New Normal in Obama's pitiful words.
Obama Warns of ‘New Normal’ for Economy
"On getting discouraged: “I do get discouraged, I mean, there are times where I thought the economy would have gotten better by now. One of the things I think you understand as president is you’re held responsible for everything. Especially an economy this big – there are limited tools to encourage the kind of job growth that we need.”"--https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/07/obama-warns-of-new-normal-for-economy/
This mindless prattle is set to say that we cannot do better so let us keep taxes high and regulations higher so we can keep in power and cut some steam off the right and business types.
Trump cut taxes and regulations and that defeated the left. Period.
And, there is more to come.
But as a challenge let us put forth a challenge to the left to help the economy, reduce crime, lower health problems, address the illegal immigration without raising taxes!
I would like to hear that .
I know many businesses that viewed Trumps attitude about overregulation as a breath of fresh air and an opportunity they had to take advantage of while they could. They added equipment and employees to capitalize on the window they thought was there believing it might only last as long as Trump's Presidency.
All the jobs they created were no accident or coincidence, they are because Trump got elected.
That's not to say that things don't cycle or that a President can't inherit good or bad situations, but in this case, Trump really has inspired the economy and jobs just like a sale inspires shoppers in a store.
Trump is a failed businessman who has been broke 6 times. He is the real Mr. Magoo.
You don't quite follow.
Even if (and I tend to agree) the Obama Administration did a lot that delayed the recovery, there is still a business cycle and expansions "run out of gas." That this one hasn't may just be a matter of luck.
It also might just be a "dead cat bounce" from the tax cuts. It is a bit too early to tell, although tax cuts and regulatory right -sizing are generally the best approach.
it is a fact. Trump has broken bankrupt 6 times!! Obama was anti business because he wanted to prevent the mistakes that was made 10 years ago before he came into office. The GOP had undermined him. Now America is a bad state and about to make the same mistakes that put our nation in the state that was in.
It is not uncommon for developers to have business entities fail or be abandoned. Trump's biggest (and lest explicable) foul-up was losing money in casinos.
His come back was rather remarkable. He is a great salesman and, like most great salesmen, his best product is himself.
So, tell me, Greg - how many businesses are YOU running today? Do you sign the FRONT or the BACK of your checks?
And there's no evidence that the Trump economy is even slowing DOWN, much less "about to fail." Soros bet big that the stock market would crash as soon as Trump took office - and LOST big, too. He was a bigger billionaire than Trump at the time - Don't know what the comparison would be now, and don't care.. Tough noogies on him, but i suspect that the losses didn't sweeten his disposition a freckle...which accounts for the 18 BILLION Soros pumped into various US domestic terrorist orgs like Antifa.
" And there's no evidence that the Trump economy is even slowing DOWN, much less "about to fail." "
This is just vain hope and sour grapes from the besotted left.
Trump is a hero and Obama is a loser.
Ben
"Trump will be a role model for future candidates."
For sure. It works!!
To win in a lot of businesses you have to have a lot of guts and often be willing to try things that more normal people don't have the balls to risk all their money on and then convince a whole lot of other people to take that plunge with some of their money at the same time.
Those are not traits that most of us have, and those types of people are usually found at the top of large successful corporations. Many companies you know well, like FedEx almost failed out of existence before they managed to succeed but most people don't realize it today.
Is the guy who invented FedEx a loser because he came inches away from bankruptcy or a brilliant leader for making it a success? In your view he may be neither but you have to admit it's people like him that make things like that happen.
Perhaps you and most normal Americans would not be so bold and willing to take risks to see if your ideas might make substantial improvements, like the guy who invented FedEx, and Trump obviously are willing to do, but you should acknowledge it when they do and it works out well.
If we wanted to make a substantial change in the economy, it wasn't going to happen if we kept doing the same ol things. I understand those who thought Trump might take us from the frying pan to the fire, but that didn't happen. It's time to give a sigh of relief and give him credit for give him credit for the economic prosperity and high employment numbers he inspired. They were not inspired by 8 years of government spending plans, and can't be explained by the continuation of the previous President's policies, they happened because Trump changed the rules and businesses responded positively.
Maybe you might say what Trump did was reckless and we're lucky he didn't take us from the frying pan to the fire, and hope no one that reckless is ever allowed to be President again, but admit what he did worked because it did.
Mr. Magoo got lucky and our economy and employment are better off as a result.
"To win in a lot of businesses you have to have a lot of guts and often be willing to try things that more normal people don't have the balls to risk all their money on and then convince a whole lot of other people to take that plunge with some of their money at the same time."
And, that is the risk and reward of capitalism! There is no counterpart in socialism or Marxism or other variants.
You are sick. You need deprogramming.
An interesting comment; accusations with no evidence, as if "J'accuse" suffices to make heads roll any longer. News flash! Not today...
i DID notice, however, that you didn't attempt to REFUTE any of the points that were made. Guess you learned your lesson on another thread, eh?
(i wasn't sure of my math, either; on reflection i realized that 1 is 1% of a hundred, so .1 would be 1% of a thousand, though. And i did some minimal websearching, too; turns out the number of businesses the Trump org got involved in was a bit over 500, so the margin of error could be double, and only 98.8% of his businesses could be said to have not gone bankrupt. So a high A instead of an A+)
But now i want to get semi-serious for a minute; if in 6 years, the democrats win another election, then make it illegal for people like me to think the way we do, and offer rewards to turn us in, would you do so? And what would be your price? 50 bux? 500? 5000? 10k? More?