Twin Towers replaced with a tribute to Islam

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After the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were destroyed by al-Qaeda, the question was "What shall we build to replace it?"  There were many suggestions.  Some said build it back exactly the way it was.  Lease holder Larry Silverstein said build four towers of the same height.  A few said leave it empty, because nothing could replace it or the lives that were lost.

Instead, we got the One World Trade Center.  (Originally called the "Freedom Tower".  The name was changed because the word "freedom" offended the Muslim community.)

Big question.  Why didn't George W. Bush rebuild it when he was president?  Wouldn't that have helped his approval ratings, especially in his second term?  The reason why is - Bush knew what was replacing it - a tribute to Islam.

If you'll remember, for years, people said, "If we rebuild the Twin Towers, won't the terrorists attack it once again?  What shall be done?"  Closet Muslim President Barack Obama would approve of the new edifice.

What proof is there that the One World Trade Center has anything to do with Islam?

40 Mind-Blowing Quotes From Barack Hussein Obama On Islam And Christianity

Muslim leaders were involved in the planning stages.




One of the main reasons the Twin Towers were chosen for destruction - a belief from the Arab world that the towers were symbolic of a penis - and that America was bragging that it had two.

One World Trade CenterSee the source image

Post 9/11 symbolism:  The One World Trade Center - [the Arab penis] and the former Twin Towers [two gaping holes, an anus and a vagina.]

Reading this, you may not want to believe it, but most other cultures are centuries old, and have ancient beliefs in symbolism.


Obama signs the final beam for the new One World Trade Center - "We remember, we rebuild, we come back stronger!" Acronym = WWW  (World Wide Web)  - Future tracking system for the VeriChip - a GPS hand implant that can locate you wherever you are.hebrewy

Hebrew lettering W = 6. Three sixes. 666. Mark of the Beast. Revelation 13:16-18 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Obama and others have expressed interest in his permanent establishment as leader of the United Nations.  If something ever happened to the USA (nuclear war, e.g.), what would replace us as the world leader?  The U.N.

Image result for obama the u.n.

Were the Twin Towers built to fall?  Were they designed for destruction to help usher in the Beast system?  Was it somehow known from the beginning that early in the 21st Century, our President would begin a "War on Terror"?  That he would be followed by a president who would help spread Muslim immigrants all over the world?  Will all of this culminate in a final showdown between Islam and the Western world?  WWIII?

Text © 2018 - ERN


Eric Reports Added Sep 8, 2018 - 9:08pm
To answer, it's a well known fact the Muslim community stopped the name FREEDOM TOWER.  Its in wikipedia and many newspaper websites.
Mustafa, why does Iran want nukes?  Just for the fun of it?
Would you agree 9/11 was an act of war?
Goldstein, you can't dispute anything I've written and you know it.
Bill H. Added Sep 8, 2018 - 10:24pm
Maybe we should change the name WriterBeat to WriterWars, or InfoBeat.
It's starting to really get crazy here.
James Travil Added Sep 8, 2018 - 10:41pm
I'm with Benjamin and Bill, I mean wow! I always thought that they changed the name from Freedom Tower because the hypocrisy was too great. Afterall, what freedom? The neocons used 9/11 to steal most of our freedoms via treasonous garbage like the "Patriot" Act. Oh, and the Pyramids aren't a Muslim thing, they are Kemetian. 
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:43am
Comments against the article are absurd.  Citizens, why did we have to replace the WTC in the first place?  No intelligent responses, just "bat shit crazy".  You should be ashamed.
This article has a lot of pictures to prove my point, yet people are afraid to admit the truth.
 No mention of Obama, our Muslim president, who hijacked our country for eight years.
John Minehan Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:55am
"Obama and others have expressed interest in his permanent establishment as leader of the United Nations.  If something ever happened to the USA (nuclear war, e.g.), what would replace us as the world leader?  The U.N."
Almost certainly the PRC would be come the economic uni-power overnight.
John Minehan Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:57am
"Citizens, why did we have to replace the WTC in the first place?"
Short Answer: do you know what prime real estate sells for in lower Manhattan?
John Minehan Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:59am
This reminds me of all the hype about the "Victory Mosque."
That turned out to be, not Salafist posturing, but a good old, All-American real estate scam . . . .  
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 10:05am
Freedom Tower (name designation 2005-2009) changed by Port Authority of NY, who I spoke to face to face and who said name was changed because the word freedom was too controversial among Muslims.
All those who knew Obama before the age of 29, have said he was a "devout Muslim".  His so-called conversion with Rev. Wright was done by his handlers, because they said he could not achieve a high office as a Muslim.  Obama wears a ring, inscribed in Arabic, stating, there is no God, but Allah.  As you know already, the Quaran states that it is all right to lie to fool your enemy.
Bill H. Added Sep 9, 2018 - 11:37am
Thanks to the Internet, anyone can find whatever they want to believe and use as their truth.
I liked it better when people researched, reasoned, and applied a logical thinking process.
Even A Broken Clock Added Sep 9, 2018 - 12:56pm
Cue the twilight zone theme .......
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 1:14pm
Believe what you want to believe.  Obama said in an interview, "John McCain has not questioned my Muslim faith."  
He refers to Kenya as his home country.
 His birth certificate is a computer graphic.  The original scan would show typed letters, not computer fonts.  
In his auto-bio, he writes I will always side with the Muslims.
John Minehan Added Sep 9, 2018 - 1:39pm
"All those who knew Obama before the age of 29, have said he was a 'devout Muslim.' "
An Army buddy of mine went to high school with Pres. Obama and did not say that.
Another Army buddy of mine, who was later with the Chicago PD,  knew Pres, Obama when he was a young lawyer in his early 30s in the neighborhood where my friend was assigned and he said no such thing.
Possibly, some say that, but clearly NOT "[a]ll."     
Dino Manalis Added Sep 9, 2018 - 1:51pm
 You're dreaming, but September 11 must never be forgotten!
John Minehan Added Sep 9, 2018 - 1:54pm
Pres. Obama's father is Muslim, his step father (to whom he was close) is Muslim, as is his half-sister (to whom he is close).
He was raise a s a Unitarian by his mom and grandparents (by whom he was mostly raised).
His wife is a member of the Church of Christ and was raised in a predominantly African American congregation, which Pres. Obama joined.
The impression I get is that Pres. Obama is not conventionally religious.  I'd assume he is a man who is big on the moral teachings and the community, but not a great one for theology or dogma.  I'd see him as a Christian who has a Muslim family background, not a rare thing in the US now a days.    
Lindsay Wheeler Added Sep 9, 2018 - 2:10pm
I like the symbology aspect. It is an interesting interpretation and quite scary. Yes!  Holes in the ground!
Obama is a Muslim, and Eric is right---It is alright to lie. In Semitic culture both Jewish and Arabic, it is normal to lie. Obama grew up in a Madrassa in Indonesia!  What do you thing "Obama", "Hussein", and "Barack" are?  All Muslim names!
Anyway he was not a Natural Born citizen and his presidency is null and void!
Brabantio Added Sep 9, 2018 - 2:24pm
Dear sweet baby jeebus.
Every form of a triangle is a pyramid reference?
The "Kaaba/memorial" comparison doesn't show anything at all.
If "WWW" is evil, then aren't all web sites also evil?  Further, since when is the first letter of sequential sentences an "acronym"?  Are people supposed to avoid perfectly straightforward prose involving our strength as a nation because some random conspiracy theorists might find a way of forming "666" out of it?
Every bit of that post is pure insanity.
James Travil Added Sep 9, 2018 - 3:17pm
If it were supposed to be 666, it should be "FFF" because F is the sixth letter of the alphabet, just like Neo-Nazis use "88" for "HH" (Hial Hitler). Becides in the original language the number is "616", but I know that doesn't look cool or whatever, but I digress. 
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 5:21pm
Thanks, Lindsay Wheeler.  Obama's school records in Indonesia state that he's a Muslim.  With the name change to Soetoro, indicates that he's adopted and therefore an Indonesian citizen.
WWW points to how people will be traced by GPS Verichip on the Internet.  Chip I.D.  Chip debit accounts.  Chip medical records.
The Hebrew letter alphabet 6th letter prounouced vav (V/W) is shaped like a 7, symbolizing a nail - 3 nails of Christ's cross.  3 times 666.  (Antichrist's mark.)
Bill H. Added Sep 9, 2018 - 5:34pm
Let's go with this one.....
Trump is a Russian spy who was sent to the US back in 1952 as a child in an effort to implant a key person into a high government position.
To be continued...……..……………………...
Brabantio Added Sep 9, 2018 - 5:36pm
Politifact: "The news reports say that Obama's registration form indicates his religion was Muslim, but there are errors on the forms and it seems reasonable to assume that he was registered as Muslim simply because his stepfather was Muslim. And it's worth noting — as the chain e-mail does — that Obama also attended a Catholic school in Indonesia for several years."
Factcheck: "The newest falsehood goes like this: Obama was legally adopted by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and thus lost his American citizenship in favor of Indonesian citizenship. Sorry, that’s bogus, too. Because Obama was born in the U.S., he could not lose his citizenship as a child. It could be revoked only if he became a citizen of another country as an adult, and if that country didn’t permit dual citizenship."
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 5:44pm
Obama was not born in the U.S.  He received citizenship thru a loophole in Hawaiian state law - state law, not federal.  
He was born in Kenya, while parents visited relatives.  (Source:  Bho's grandmother.)
Disagree about citizenship.  Legally, if Indonesian, and adopted, you are a citizen.
Brabantio Added Sep 9, 2018 - 5:57pm
It's clear that the "grandmother" story is from someone trying to achieve that result, if you actually read the transcript.  It was clarified multiple times.
Obama showed both versions of his birth certificate.  The claims that they were forged were debunked.  They announced it in the local papers.  Further, there would be no purpose to creating a false impression about any of this except based on the notion of him running for president.  In 1961.  A black child.  Who could possibly think that there would be a likelihood strong enough to warrant any such fraud?
Your disagreement is meaningless.  Even if Indonesia considered him to be a citizen, he would still be an American citizen.
FacePalm Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:11pm
Yeah, i checked out the whole "Obama's ring has Muslim symbols on it" thing, too - it's nonsense.
i believe that since he attended a Madrassas in Singapore as a young boy, it's very likely that's where he got his Muslim sympathies from AND learned about taqiyyah, which he put to great use later in life, especially during his "apology tour" and his reverent bow to the King of SA.  i've also heard rumors that there were Muslim prayers at the WH.  His "donation" of millions of $ worth of jets, tanks, and other ordinance to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt wasn't any sort of denunciation of his islamic identity, either - but rather, a validation.
As to 911, Eric, if you honestly believe that narrative of The Shrub and the Cheney-bot + the Neocons, the MSM fairytale they tried too hard to sell us, all i can say is that you have neither done as Mustafa suggests, discovered "Qui bono," that you prefer ignorance of who ACTUALLY pulled the trigger on the Twin Towers and bldg. 7, or you're actively complicit in the Intel agencies scheme to ramp up surveillance(and legalize it) of all Americans, Constitution and oaths of fealty to it be that yet more "foreign wars" could be started and prolonged by those who make the most money from selling war materiel and hospital supplies - and funeral parlors, of course.
Regardless of the schemes D'OhBama pulled as Preznit or his current attempts at subversion, even sedition, he's not holding the reins of power, now; his tenuous hold on the "stay-behind" networks of socialist democrats is failing, and so are his plans, and he's scared.
According to a prophesy received by Mark Taylor (the "fireman prophet"), D'OhBama will be "ripped and stripped" of the presidency, then convicted of and imprisoned for Treason - and before the end of Trump's 2 terms.
Not to mention that virtually everything D'OhBama accomplished by means of EO has been reversed the same way - and no American can any longer be forced to Unconstitutionally pay for something that was never Constitutional to begin with.(SCOTUS said "legal as a tax" - only the House can introduce "bills for revenue," aka taxes - D'OhBamacare originated in Senate, ergo no lawful basis to compel payment by anyone.)
Eric Reports Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:25pm
Brabantio, we agree to disagree.  Seems odd that any president wouldn't have to show his birth certificate UNTIL AFTER HE WAS IN OFFICE FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS.  The MSM had a vested interest in him being electable.  Explain why his college records are sealed, if you can.
Facepalm, I know all about Bldg. 7 (imploded.)  No, I don't believe Bush, but he's still better than BHO.
I maintain that Obama will lead the U.N. (as he did for a while as president, which was illegal.)
Brabantio Added Sep 9, 2018 - 6:52pm
What do you think his college records could possibly show?
You disagree with facts in order to maintain irrational beliefs.  I can't stop you from doing it, but I'm pretty likely to point it out.
Tamara Wilhite Added Sep 9, 2018 - 7:05pm
We're already in World War 3, fundamentalist Islam versus everyone else.
From Indonesia to the Philippines to France's de facto no go zones, Muslim fundamentalists are demanding regional autonomy, screw human rights and national laws. Shariah shall rule.
Sufi and Almaddhi Muslims get killed in Pakistan for being apostates. Those who've lived in the UK for a generation find themselves threatened and occasionally murdered by the recent, fundamentalist Muslim migrants to the EU. The moderate Muslim murdered for wishing Christians a happy Easter was the reason Europeans think Islam as a whole is moderate - his fundamentalist Muslim murderer is closer to reality.
China and Russia partnered together to fight ISIS in Syria because they learned that Muslim minorities in their own countries had sent fighters who were certain to return home and foment war. Compare this to the West being reluctant to jail jihadis, while Canada says, poor little babies, you're so oppressed, no prison for you.
Somali immigrants the U.S. took in during the 1990s are sending sons back to fight for Al Shabab, while a few of them attack people HERE. Those Islamic terrorist attacks like the Mall of America knife attack are written off as lone wolf crazies.
When these Muslim men commit sex crimes, they're covered up by officials whereas any one pulling a hijab off a girl is prosecuted to the fullest extent of unfair laws.
This is a full-on cultural and physical war of fundamentalist Muslims versus everyone else - including moderate Muslims. And it has been going on for DECADES. It has been going on since the Crusades, when Muslim armies conquered 3 of the 5 centers of Christianity. Only Rome and Constantinople still stood ... until it was just Rome.
Blaming U.S. presidents for modern Islamic terrorism is, again, blaming the victim. EVERY Muslim-majority country except Indonesia was conquered, and oppressive theocratic rules converted it over time to Muslim to the point we don't even wonder why all these nations are mostly-Muslim.
I disagree that these towers were built to incite Islamic terrorist attacks. That ignores historical attacks like Khobar Towers in the Middle East or our bombed embassies in Kenya. By saying, "We built it to incite an attack and justify a war", you're blaming the victims. You're essentially saying we wanted them to murder our people and provoked them. That's like the Muslim men saying white women are whores, their rape is justified by the fact that they don't cover up.
We're in a long war for civilization. Muslims know this. We deny it because we wish that if we just toss money and radiate love, they'll reform.
In reality, Islam won't reform if we keep saying you're totally perfect just the way you are.
In reality, Islam won't reform if we continue to let them migrate to our nations and demand accommodation with retrograde belief systems. That you choose not to eat ham or drink alcohol is your choice. To demand schools and businesses stop serving it is oppression of others. Liberals demand we submit to Muslims demands, but don't Christians dare try not not to pay for another's abortion ...
In reality, Islam won't reform to become peaceful if we continue to send economic aid to nations that advocate our conquer and/or death. Ending money to the Palestinian Authority was a good first step.
In reality, Islam contains within it the unique joining of state and faith. Moderate Muslims may be fundamentalist or  not with the faith, but the fundamentalist always links state and faith, demanding laws that privilege Islam or enforce Islamic rules on everyone else. Any Muslim fundamentalist can and should be banned from immigration to the U.S. because they advocate the overthrow of its government. Any imam or general Muslim who says we all have to have Shariah should be deported for the same offense.
Get rid of the notion that Western leaders wanted this. Islam became a faith of a billion plus people because it uniquely calls for war in all forms to spread the faith.
That a mass murder of a few dozen to scare hundreds into converting is moral, because it spreads the faith. That raping uncovered white girls to scare the rest into meekly covering up and staying home is moral. This is all authorized by the Koran and demonstrated by Mohamed, the supposedly perfect man.
Whether Muslim rape gangs in the UK or suicide bombers in Nigeria, it is all part of the same, global mission - make the world submit totally to the oppressive fundamentalist version of Islam.
FacePalm Added Sep 9, 2018 - 9:50pm
And it's not JUST the radical islamists, either; the globalists ALSO seem to want them infesting the West, otherwise there'd be no welcome for them, and neither would Western governments mollycoddle these invaders while jailing their own Citizens who dare complain.
Here is a link to a Still report(utube) about a fella who tracked the passengers from a plane which landed in an out-of-the-way country airport, then the embarkees loaded up on tour-style busses, then drove off; iirc, he said he followed them over a hundred miles before he had to turn off, but allegedly, a large number of these ME-looking men had been coming in daily for almost the entirety of the D'OhBama presidency.
Since the majority of these are muslim men of fighting age, there's a better-than-even chance, i believe, that these could constitute a sizeable 5th column in the US. 
it is my belief that since the Qu'ran teaches that pedophilia is ok, and that many of the globalists feel the same, this is why they're promoting islam everywhere; they allegedly plan to use the muslims as shock troops if/when war breaks out, then wipe out the survivors on both sides, which also fits their global depop plans.(see Georgia Guidestone #1, and consider it's implications for everyone OVER the 500-mil. limit it proposes.)
i have little doubt that Trump is hip, though, and will deal with them when the time is ripe.  He's totally screwed their timeline, and is busy throwing monkey-wrenches into the machinery of their world-domination ravenous maw.
Bill H. Added Sep 10, 2018 - 1:04am
Wow, they are coming in from all directions!
Things must be boring over there on InfoWars.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 10, 2018 - 7:33am
Even D'Opher asked the right question in another thread:
Why don't we just nuke Mecca? 
wsucram15 Added Sep 10, 2018 - 8:05am
this is as far out a theory as I have ever read. yep.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 10, 2018 - 8:11am
Oh, but they are our allies, d'oh
There is that. 
Riley Brown Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:12am
You lost me when you compared images of the pyramids, by the time you got to a penis comparison and showed your logic for using the 6th letter of the Hebrew alphabet to imply 666, I was long gone.
I do hope you are pulling everone's leg.
Tamara Wilhite Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:15am
 Mustafa Kemal
If Islam was peaceful, the odds someone would become violent would go down with their fundamentalism, not up.There are peaceful moderates, but their silence is damning for several reasons.
It is very rare to find moderate Muslims who publicly condemn the violent fundamentalists. A British Almaddhi Muslim, a very moderate sect, wished Brits a happy Easter. He was killed within hours by a Muslim fundamentalist for doing so.
Why are the moderate Muslims so quiet? They are afraid of the violent ones, when in a peaceful faith, they wouldn't have to be because their society reports such violent ones to police or corrects their behavior before it escalates to such.
The peaceful majority is irrelevant if they do not check the violent ones. It is worse when they cannot condemn their actions or materially support the violence.
In the United States, a 2011 survey found 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified in these circumstances. Similar rates have been found in other surveys. When you just ask about Shariah law, a quarter or more of young Muslims in the WEST say yeah, it should be law, ignoring the fact that this is oppressive totalitarianism.
This creates a huge pool that would either tolerate or tacitly support Islamic terrorism though they wouldn't murder people directly. And that's aside from the larger number who can't bring themselves to condemn Islamic terrorism per the Koran, demonstrated by Mohamed's actions of chopping fingers off rivals and beheading those who wouldn't convert, and too often, the words of their imams.
Tamara Wilhite Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:21am
The violence we associate with Islam is part and parcel of the faith, woven into the entire Medina era texts.
It is not a modern invention because of conflict of the West.
It is not something you can blame on Israel as a reaction of the restoration of the state.
It is built into the faith as a way to power its spread and domination, by the founder. The entire memeplex or network of ideas explains how Islam spread so rapidly once it became militant and conquered much of the world.
Islam is not "peace", it is "submission". It is a violent, conquering faith by design.
Moderates exist, moderate sects exist, and they are terrified into submissive silence by the violent fundamentalists. And that makes them irrelevant to this discussion.
We can point at laugh at Westboro Baptist Church because not only are they a tiny minority but publicly mocked and condemned by moderate Christians. They are a tiny minority no one is afraid of, and that's why no one is honestly afraid of Christian fundamentalism.
Compare this to the terror of liberal secularists who mock Christianity regularly but won't dare make fun of Islam. Compare this to Western governments who won't condemn female genital mutilation, barely discuss the religious basis of honor killings and acid thrown in the face of women not wearing hijab.
The violence has a purpose - to spread the faith and strengthen its grasp on society. And in Islam, that IS the highest good. In Islam, it is OK to kill ten so that 100 convert in fear. It is acceptable to rape the girls in Rotherham and Sheffield for not covering up, to scare others into staying home or abiding Islamic dress codes.
That isn't a peaceful faith.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 10, 2018 - 2:38pm
Pardon me for asking the blindingly obvious here, but what would be so wrong about having a Muslim as president?   Why not.   There are many Muslim Americans just as there are many Jews, Catholics etc etc.  Surely it should be possible for any American to become president if he or she has the right talents and moral standing (Not Trump in other words... a truly amoral piece of work...).
And don't spout that crap about all Muslims being terrorists etc.  Let's be adults here.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 10, 2018 - 4:37pm
How's your Muslim mayor working out for ya? Knob. 
Eric Reports Added Sep 10, 2018 - 7:16pm
Muslim Obama gave billions to the Muslim Brotherhood - that's what's wrong.  
Don't forget about Benghazi.
Why did it take over a decade to rebuild?  Were they waiting for the chosen one?
Do you expect there to be signs on the one world trade center or 9/11 memorial, that it's Sharia complient?  Those in the know, know.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 11, 2018 - 2:07am
Sorry Jeff, was that meant to be an insult?   I am not so aware of American usage of language.
If you are referring to Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, well he seems to be doing pretty well to me.  Certainly he is doing better than that idiot Boris Johnson who ultimately sold the city down the river for personal gain with the Brexit campaign.
Our elected leaders should come from all sections of the community.   Khan did not get elected because he is Muslim but because the majority of people thought he would do a good job.   On balance he has.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 11, 2018 - 5:08am
I think a little history should be studied to address this negative view of Islam.
In the 9th century it was the golden age of Islam.  During that time advances were made by Muslim scholars such as Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi in mathematics, astronomy and geography which formed the foundation of much of our understanding today.  The concept of algebra and algorithms (notice the "al" prefix to these words) came from this time.  The Muslim empire at this time was also an economic powerhouse ,making the Christian European kingdoms look muddy and pathetic by comparison.
The only reason that Europe, and by extension the USA, is not predominantly Muslim today is that the heart of the Empire was ripped out by an assault from the nomadic peoples of central Asia.  Having conquered parts of China, and re-enforced with advanced Chinese military technology, they surged across Central Asia, first taking Bhukara and then moving on as far as the gates of Vienna.
So the expansion of Islam was brought to a halt.  However it did not stop many of the achievements of the culture from being bequeathed to Europe; albeit some of them took centuries to be fully adopted.
So next time you feel tempted to despise Islam, take a look at history.
Eric Reports Added Sep 11, 2018 - 11:55am
Jeff Michka, your comment was deleted you worthless cunt.
Eric Reports Added Sep 11, 2018 - 12:02pm
Mustafa, if you read newspapers or followed the news, you'd already know BHO gave the Muslim Bros. 3 billion, when they ran the Egypt's gov't.  You know all this and are trying to plant seeds of doubt among my readers.  You play dumb, but are very clever and know everything in my article is true.
For you or anybody else, you can dare to try to prove me wrong, but you will fail every time.
Gregory S. McNeill Added Sep 11, 2018 - 2:22pm
What is your issue with Islam? I respect Muslims for practicing their faith more than Christians. Christians should learn from Muslims. As for the World Trade Center, it should have been a memorial spot than rebuilt. 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Sep 11, 2018 - 3:46pm
The concept of algebra and algorithms (notice the "al" prefix to these words) came from this time.
It never gets old. Being left-wing and being able to count are mutually exclusive.
Eric Reports Added Sep 11, 2018 - 4:33pm
To go back in time and never help Afghanistan oust the Soviets would mean the original WTC Twin Towers would still be there.  That is true.  That's what we get for helping Islamics.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 11, 2018 - 6:49pm
Ben:  What is particularly left wing about the facts of history?   Are right wingers simply ignorant of history?
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 11, 2018 - 7:00pm
And, by the way Ben, the future may also be Islamic... or Chinese.
The countries of central Asian are home to the bulk of the key resources that we will need over the next hundred years or so.   China has recognised this and has invested (depending on which source you believe) somewhere between $500 Billion and $1 Trillion in infrastructure projects to link them to those markets.
This fact is giving the USA the creeps.   Ultimately the economic expansion of this region will lead to a more dynamic economy that will outstrip the USA (and Europe) over the next few years.  And China means to be part of it.  The various players in the region are doing their best to set aside their deep divisions in the interests of mutual economic growth (at a time when the UK is doing Brexit and Trump is putting up walls...)
The USA has, of course, few friends in the region due to its past foreign policies, so, instead of competing with serious investments, it has been doing its best to disrupt things.  Hence the sanctions against China and the stirring up of tensions in Pakistan and Iran.  Some commentators think that the USA may even go for a limited war in the region to demonstrate to China that, although they might be losing the economic war, they still have the overwhelming firepower to win a military one.  
Iran looks like the most likely target for them to pick on because if the USA does go for a full embargo against Iran, then Iran is likely to retaliate by blockading the straits of Hormuz, interdicting much of the world's oil supply.   Trump is like a toddler playing with matches near an open can of petrol....
Tamara Wilhite Added Sep 11, 2018 - 8:28pm
 Robin the red breasted songster Why are you so eager to idolize Islam and bash every other civilization?

Do not give ISLAM credit for Persian innovations. It is equally wrong to give Islam credit for Egyptian civilization, construction and culture.
Islam SUPPRESSED science and economic development. Few people are going to do real research when it can get you killed for violating Shariah law. Few people invest in business when that's equated with theft and people who steal from you are considered more honorable because raiding a caravan is hard work.
That's why the Muslim world is so poor today barring oil wealth.

Why the Arabic World Turned Away from Science

Why Does the Islamic World Lag Behind?
Islam and Economic Performance: Historical and Contemporary Links

You want an example of totalitarianism and the erosion of mulitculturalism under a totalitarian system? Look at nations like Egypt, Iran and others that started with very small Muslim majorities that inexorably converted to Islam from a mix of regular violence the state tolerated and oppressive laws. Systematic humiliations like separate clothing and being slapped when paying your taxes. That if your daughter was raped by a Muslim, she had no recourse in the court unless the rapist chose to marry her. That if your family was murdered by Muslims, there might be blood money if you were a heavily taxed dhimmi but none of you're not even Christian or Jewish, and no compensation for the dead if someone says the murdered committed blasphemy.
Even today in Egypt and Pakistan, a poor Christian demands their back pay, the Muslim boss can threaten to accuse them of defacing a Koran and organizing a violent lynch mob to murder the target and probably burn down a few other people's homes, too.
That type of systematic oppression prevents the exchange of ideas that a multi-cultural society can experience, because the non-Muslims are literally in fear of their lives.

But you're elevating the oppressors to the level of the oppressed, setting up the West for the same erosion of human rights and literal safety.
Logical Man Added Sep 11, 2018 - 8:36pm
al-Qaeda took down the 3  buildings????
Would you like to buy some seafront property in Wyoming?
Eric Reports Added Sep 11, 2018 - 11:13pm
Some time ago, a Muslim told me that "Christian westeners are going to be led like lambs to the slaughter."  He was proud of that statement.
Jeff M., if you ever write anything intelligent, I'd keep it, but your comments are polluting the discussion here.
Also, some of you forgot about the "ground zero mosque".  It wasn't built and that is part of the reason why the One World Trade Center was forced to adapt to Sharia law.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 12, 2018 - 2:46am
Tamara:  I am not idolising any particular civilisation.  I merely point out historical fact.   Most civilisations have their golden age in the sun.   The West has had its turn.   Now it will most likely be the turn of the East and Central Asian peoples... not all of course are Muslim... but many are
These changes are not due to any inherent qualities of the civilisations themselves.  They are due to inexorable realities about resources and the strategic efforts being made by China to exploit them.    China is busy making friends in the region... we, the USA (and to some extent on the coattails of the USA), are busy doing all we can to lose them.   Our exhibition of Islamaphobic behaviour (as seen on this site) only serves to re-enforce this.
The USA, in particular, is seen as tearing up any international agreement it likes whenever it deems it to be in its interests to do so (Kyoto, Iran nuclear etc).   So it is seen as not playing by the rules of international relations.   Some of the other actors, although to our eyes they might be very unsavoury, do seem to be playing according to the rules.   Hence they are getting more traction.
No-one has clean hands in this game by the way.   It is not a competition based on moral rectitude.
The danger is that the USA is losing the game.   It therefore increasingly tries to flout the rules.  And at the same time knows that it has a thumping great military.   Historically these circumstances often lead to unpleasantness...   Watch out for developments in the Straits of Hormuz.   I think that this is the place that is most likely to be centre of tension over the next few months.
Robin the red breasted songster Added Sep 12, 2018 - 2:56am
Tamara:  Just for the record, Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, was an Uzbek Muslim... not Persian.    The Persians were indeed a strong civilisation but they did become Muslim in about 650 BCE with a decline in Zoroastrianism.   At the time, Islam was sweeping all before it and was, like it or not, home to much more advanced science compared with the rather backward Christian kingdoms of Western Europe.  
The Mongols ripped out the heart of Islam during their rampage across the world which brought them all the way to the gates of Vienna.
The West gradually adopted many of the ideas of Islamic science, then, following the discovery and exploitation of wealth in the Americas, started to surge ahead during the Renaissance period.
Eric Reports Added Sep 12, 2018 - 2:10pm
Mustafa, do not send any more comments, as I already know your thoughts on Islam, and know that you are working with them, trying to disprove my article.  You have failed.
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 12, 2018 - 2:34pm
Eric, did you just delete all my comments?
Was I uncivil? Did I speak lies?
Stone-Eater Added Sep 12, 2018 - 4:48pm
This accusation on Mustafa is hilarious. But I saw you deleted my posts too. So be happy with comments that reflect YOUR POV only but don't expect any more of me on your articles therefore.
Logical Man Added Sep 12, 2018 - 5:37pm
Change your name to Eric Rambles, at least.
Pretty sure you just make stuff up as you go along.
I'll bear that in mind when I see your next post.
Eric Reports Added Sep 30, 2018 - 8:29pm
While the cat's away, the mice will play.  
Anyone who thinks the liberal NYC officials would rebuild the tower without approval from the local Islamic clerics is an imbecile.
Koshersalaami Added Oct 11, 2018 - 10:50pm
"Let's be adults here"? I've nay been here a few weeks and I already know how ludicrous that is.
Obama is unAmerican because his grandfather fought in WWII and he has thirteen ancestors who fought in the American Revolution. Did you forget about his mother's side, the side who raised him?

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