September 9 2018

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Tomorrow is the 17th anniversary of Donald  Rumsfeld announcing that the Pentagon couldn’t account for $2.3 trillion.
Something happened the day after that sent this little snippet of information down the ‘memory hole’.
Other notable events include put options on certain airlines surging to the phenomenal high of 285 times their average. People make money on ‘put’ options when share prices drop.
The presidential papers of Ronald Reagan and Vice President George Bush were due to be made public when George W. Bush took office in January, 2001. However, George W. Bush first delayed the release for 90 days, and then repeated the action, pushing the date back into September, 2001. On November 1, 2001, Bush issued Executive Order 13233, limiting public access to the records of former U.S. presidents. The Bush executive order also includes the documents of former vice presidents.
I guess it takes something really spectacular to distract from that much ‘unfortunate’ information.
To add to the odd occurrences, On September 11, George W. Bush and the White House staff began taking a regimen of Cipro, which is a powerful antibiotic. Maybe someone in the US government of had pre-knowledge of the anthrax attacks in the near future?

Comments

opher goodwin Added Sep 9, 2018 - 7:15pm
Do you think that Bush and Reagan pocketed it? That's a lot of suitcases of cash even with big notes!
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 9, 2018 - 9:15pm
Opher, who knows. Where is it? We dont know, we forgot.
Thats good enough.
 
From what I have read, the Pentagon cannot account for about 6T$  currently.  
Logical Man Added Sep 9, 2018 - 9:33pm
They haven't looked down the back of the couch yet!
Lindsay Wheeler Added Sep 10, 2018 - 2:09am
I wished you had linked to references to what you say. That would have been helpful! 
 
No doubt there are sneaky things going around. I never voted for Bush II. I voted for the Bush I and I regretted ever since. 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 10, 2018 - 2:25am
Bush I won in '88 due to his strong performance in the then still unknown potential of the lesbian vote. Lesbians preferred doing Bush to Dukakis
Kristen Foley Added Sep 10, 2018 - 2:34am
"He didn't announce it, and it wasn't missing and 9/11 had no significant impact on efforts to reconcile it.
The information had been reported on a number of times in the, roughly, 18 months before 9/11 (for example, target="_blank">March 2000 by the Associated Press).
The mention of the "missing" trillions on 9/10 was not an annoucement of that. It was mentioned as an example of the problems within existing systems in a speech about the need to modernize DoD computer systems. It was once sentence within a speech that was almost 4,000 words.
The money wasn't missing. $2.3 trillion was the sum total of all transactions across all DoD systems which couldn't be automatically reconciled. Not actual money that was missing. By early 2002 more than two thirds of the total had been properly reconciled, and efforts were continuing. Nothing about 9/11 directly impacted on that."
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 10, 2018 - 2:55am
I will infer, perhaps incorrectly(?), that your premise is that 9/11 was an "inside job". I have been treated to many variations of this narrative and am not convinced. While I do believe that much of policy is ill considered and manipulated by other interests far beyond the protective coating of "national security", the proposition that the events of 9/11 were orchestrated by some evil neocon cabal is simply not credible. It's fun to entertain, but it imparts a level of imagination and competence to many federal employees that just isn't there. 
 
I will also note this....Many, not all, but many who entertain these notions are the same people who scoff when confronted with real and credible evidence of "deep state" conspiracy to thwart or manipulate the justice department and the electoral process. Instead they blame the Russians
Stone-Eater Added Sep 10, 2018 - 3:35am
I look at it as an inside job too. The fact that Saudi best friends were the attacker (and as "allies" of the US were not handled with accordingly but "protected" from being closely watched and/or being accused), they had a free pass to fly all over the place, were trained in Florida...etc.....9/11 gave Bush the opportunity to start a new war in Iraq where the MIC did profit.....insurance issues of the towers, there are so many doubts in the whole thing etc. etc. Saudi is a guarantee for a "stable" ME, so they thought. And proven is that no Iraqi was in the game at all !
 
It smells too dirty and probably is too dirty, that's why classified...and for sure the "deep state" is in it, if not the source. The "deep state" and the MIC are the same, and right now on the search for a new target they have Venezuela, Russia can be blamed, but it's too risky to go in there and flatten the place. Too bad. Therefore next move Iran. That's why Trump sold all those weapons to Saudi lately. Then the Russians can be blamed why they sell weapons to Iran to defend itself....
 
Just a remark. As I said, that video of Wesley Clark tells it all. The attack plan on 7 countries was created by that very same "deep state". Too bad that not enough people understand English LOL
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 10, 2018 - 4:08am
The event presented an opportunity. Shortly after the Obama inauguration Rahm Emanuel committed the indiscretion of revealing part of the playbook by saying "you never want to let a good crisis go to waste". Everything that has followed 9/11 is the same thing, its the same kind of opportunism being exercised by a different agenda. If they meant to really deal with the problem it would have been over a long time ago. There is no interest for these parties to win the war, only to continue the war
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 10, 2018 - 7:17am
One of Rummy's known unknowns. 
Thomas Sutrina Added Sep 10, 2018 - 8:53am
The tea party started with from the spending of Bush not Obama.  Obama continued the spending and the tea party grew.  Bush and Obama had the same agenda, to grow government.  Only the different special interest to be served is the reason for the fight between Republicans and Democrats.  The present leaders of the swam, multinational companies, are the graduates of the tumultuous 60's and early 70's.  Vietnam and the resulting protest and disobedience.  Bush and Obama are members of the times.  They were the first generation to be schooled on socialism in our universities.  The swam does not want competition, they want consolidation so that the pie is shared by only a few companies.  Everyone gets a big piece.   They follow the rules of the upper class we can rename the class to 'the swamp,' that receive government preferred treatment for their money, a real bargin. 
 
I tend to agree with Kristin.  Just out of college I was wandering the building and ended up in the accounting area for a product line.  Dow Chemical is considered the best run company in the industry.  An eight inch tall stack of computer print out sat on the desk.  The accountant told me that there was a discrepancy of thousands of dollars in that print out.  Why he said was that the separation of spending entries and payment entries that were not matched up and checked as payment came in.   They said it is impossible to go through the thousands of entries to find the typing  errors that can occur in any column.  
Michael B. Added Sep 10, 2018 - 9:11am
It's fun to entertain, but it imparts a level of imagination and competence to many federal employees that just isn't there. 
 
I cannot improve on that...most of these people couldn't imagine themselves out of a paper bag. I firmly reject various conspiracy theories on that basis alone.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 10, 2018 - 9:41am
most of these people couldn't imagine themselves out of a paper bag. 
 
As we are finding out with McCabe and Rosenstein. 
 
Michael B. Added Sep 10, 2018 - 9:55am
From what I've studied, wars are often the result of the miscalculations, underestimations, and outright blunders of politicians and military brass which result in millions of lives lost and untold destruction.
 
I remember very clearly telling someone on the afternoon of 9/11/2001, "Saddam, whether you had anything to do with this or not, you're through." If anything, they are opportunistic whores whose noses, when they're not buried in someone's ass, don't go too far past daily concerns.
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 10, 2018 - 10:37am
'From what I've studied, wars are often the result of the miscalculations, underestimations, and outright blunders of politicians and military brass which result in millions of lives lost and untold destruction."
 
Smedley Butler, one of the US most highly decorated military officers strongly disagrees.
 
In his War is a Racket he lays it out and since he personally participated in much of it I suggest he is worth a listen. In there he tells us that WWI cost the taxpayer $52B of which
$36B went to the war effort, creating over 2000 new millionaires and billionaires, and thats in 1917 money. He also discusses an attempted coup against the US government which tried to solicit his participation.
 
The magnificence of such "miscalculations, underestimations, and outright blunders' was not lost on these people, that is for sure.
 
The Wall street participation and funding for both the Bolshevik revolution and the rise of Hitler  was no blunder either. It was deliberate. In addition to the usual benifits of commerce and later war, there is the massive benefits of having boosted a boogey man to such a stature that requires a massive arms buildup as a response. Its very win-win.  Averil Harriman did very little underestimation and blunders. Neither did Allen Dulles.
 
Did we blunder our way into Iraq? Halliburton is grateful.
 
Mustafa
 
 
Doug Plumb Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:34am
9-11 was an inside job TBH, there is just no room for doubt. All you have to do is watch the buildings collapse - all three, including wtc 7, which was a perfectly executed textbook controlled demolition. The towers were also controlled demolition, but a different method than we are accustomed to seeing due to their tall height and narrow base. So there were bombs in the buildings, therefore it was an inside job unless bin Laden snuck in there at night under Jeb Bush, who's company was in charge of security.
  Were there planes ? Was it a super weapon from space or just thermate ? Who was behind it ? All these questions need answering and there is lots of reasons to believe and reasons to disbelieve any of the particular conspiracy theories.
  Much of the evidence was destroyed immediately after the fact, which shows the governments were involved. Government allowed the evidence to be destroyed after the fact. This is unlawful and illegal.
  It unlikely that Arabs can do anything on US soil on this scale. They don't have the political clout to get away with it.
 
 
Dino Manalis Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:39am
 We should account for all taxpayer money, including the Pentagon's expenses, nothing's free!
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 10, 2018 - 12:13pm
"It's fun to entertain, but it imparts a level of imagination and competence to many federal employees that just isn't there."
 
Low level people certainly, but Allen Dulles was very imaginative and very competent, so was Dick Cheney and Wolfowitz.
 
I know their incompetence is fun to entertain but the evidence does not support your confidence. Thats the magic  of Dubya.
 
I remember his father talking about about some massive important federal document, saying that he read through the whole thing, logarithms and everything.
 
LOL incompetent. He knows about lograrithms!
 
 
Anyway, IMO you think about these things too literally, like someone is supposed to be in a controll room. Thats not the way these things work I think.
 
Inside job is not the correct terminology. Whatever you call it, it is dirty, IMO.
 
Mustafa
George N Romey Added Sep 10, 2018 - 1:00pm
A portion of what is doled out to the military and secret state is not in the budget.  Some people that have looked at this issue and believe this has widened to the tune of $5-$6 trillion since 2001.  Think of what that could have afforded.  Retaining hegemony in a modern world isn't cheap I guess. 
Logical Man Added Sep 10, 2018 - 6:33pm
Something to consider is that 'ground zero' was NOT treated as a crime scene. A huge amount of evidence was shipped, rather rapidly, to China. You have to wonder why.
Steel beams cut at an angle consistent with controlled demolition methods can't happen due to gravitational collapse.
B7 fell at freefall speed initially. This can only happen if there is NOTHING in the way. Fell into its own footprint, symmetrically. This can't happen due to a confined fire in part of a building
In recorded history, only 3 steel framed buildings have ever, if you believe the official story, collapsed due to fire. Strange they all happened the same day, in the same place.
Nano thermite found in the dust. High-tech military stuff.
Just as the icing on the cake, EPA saying the air was safe the day after will kill way more than the event itself. Many are dead already from inhaling dust containing, amongst other things, large amounts of asbestos. Proof that the government doesn't give a crap about the average guy.
The official fairy tail has more holes than a string vest. For it to hold up would require that the laws of physics took the day off.
If you wish to say I'm a 'conspiracy theorist' you have to refute the above arguments.
Qui Bono?
 
Logical Man Added Sep 10, 2018 - 7:45pm
Here's something to look at.
From 2004.
Very well put together.
If you are on the fence, take the time to watch this, if you wish to understand how the world you live in actually works.
9 11 News that you Never Saw
FacePalm Added Sep 10, 2018 - 8:38pm
LM-
i'm with you.
i've not shied from the opinion that 911 was always an inside job, and that those who swallowed the gov't fairy tale are either incredibly stupid, haven't dared examine the available evidence with any degree of honor or honesty, or are actively complicit.
 
For me, the convincing detail is that no known amount of jet fuel, burned any kind of way, can suffice to melt steel, so explain the multiple aerial infrared photos showing molten metal under all 3 sites for at least FOUR WEEKS after they towers fell.
 
As to where the money went, i suspect that the vast majority went either to the DUMBS or to the secret space program revealed in part by Dr. Steven Greer...with a tidy sum into the retirement accounts of many in the various intel agencies charged with keeping secrets.
 
"You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook."
-- Harry S. Truman(1884-1972), 33rd US President
Source: Attributed
 
Sortof succinctly sums things up, for me...
Rusty Smith Added Sep 10, 2018 - 11:24pm
I'm hardly surprised, our own School District hasn't been auditable for over 20 years, they have no idea where all their money goes.
 
The government has many classified programs that have a lot to do with national security and defense, all hidden in other program budgets.  There will never be a full public disclosure including payoffs to other countries.
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 11, 2018 - 10:56am
OT, as  part of the 9/11 festivities there is a nice very long well documented list of  False Flags on Zero Hedge
David Montaigne Added Sep 11, 2018 - 9:17pm
Missing trillions of dollars can fund a lot of secret projects and preparations for upcoming events.  Lots of evidence 9/11 was a false flag conspiracy.  Mustafa K, thanks for the link to the list of false flags.
Mustafa Kemal Added Sep 11, 2018 - 10:01pm
David, you are welcome. It can even fund the building of large systems of underground bunkers in the midwest
James Travil Added Sep 12, 2018 - 9:56pm
China has plenty of underground facilities to permanently disappear any evidence or material that is inconvenient to have around.
As for the missing trillions, I'm thinking it might have went to the black budget. 
Doug Plumb Added Sep 13, 2018 - 8:06pm
Logical Man: Good post. BTW I do not file with Satan, referencing another comment you put up. I don't support this kind of crap and I don't sign unconscionable contracts such as tax returns.
Doug Plumb Added Sep 13, 2018 - 9:44pm
I do my corporate returns, that is the law.
John Minehan Added Sep 15, 2018 - 12:06pm
"'It's fun to entertain, but it imparts a level of imagination and competence to many federal employees that just isn't there.' 
 
I cannot improve on that...most of these people couldn't imagine themselves out of a paper bag. I firmly reject various conspiracy theories on that basis alone."
 
That is something you come to realize if you served in 3d AD during the 1980s . . . . 
Logical Man Added Sep 15, 2018 - 5:22pm
John M, having no faith in the average federal employee does not explain why the only 3 high rise buildings ever brought down by fire all happened in the same vicinity on the same day.
At the risk of being repetitive, It doesn't explain how kerosene in open air or burning furniture can get hot enough to melt steel or how a few small fires can symmetrically remove all the supporting structures in Building 7 allowing it to collapse at free-fall acceleration. Nor does it explain away the odd financial goings on around September 11, 2001.

Why was 'ground zero' not treated as a crime scene? I'm pretty sure that's what it was whoever caused the buildings to collapse.

I doubt a few careless federal employees sprinkled nano thermite around the area by accident.

Where was the US air force?

Where was all the debris from flight 93 and the plane that struck the Pentagon leaving a small hole and penetrating at least 2 reinforced concrete walls and how come, given there has to be hundreds of surveillance cameras in and around the Pentagon all that was ever shown was a few frames from a single camera that show basically nothing?

The Twin Towers were designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707. The only parts of an aircraft that are hard enough to do any serious physical damage to a building are the turbine shafts in the engines. There are 4 of those on a 707 only 2 on a 767.

I don't see how you can discount all this just because you hold federal employees in such low esteem.
FacePalm Added Sep 15, 2018 - 9:22pm
Americans kept nuke secrets extremely well prior to the end of WW2.
Some gov't whistleblowers HAVE come forward about 911, but MSM refuses to interview or even report on their info...but if they mention it at all(rarely), they claim it's nonsense.  Put "911 whistleblower" into a youtube search window or websearch it - you'll find a-plenty, and right quick, too.
 
There are far too many inconsistencies about the whole 911 narrative for me to accept the gov't fairytale uncritically; the same gov't which has repeatedly experimented on Americans without either their knowledge or consent(Tuskeegee Syphilis Experiment, among many others), the same gov't that repeatedly lies to Americans with impunity (so far), the same gov't which uses psyops on a routine basis to deceive and mislead Americans, the same gov't which claimed Trump was insane - until his doc gave him a clean bill of health - the same gov't which said Trump was crazy for saying he and his campaign staffers were wiretapped - which they were; the same gov't which claimed there was NO spying on the Trump campaign - at least 3 spies have been proven to have infested the campaign staff as well as the transition team; the same gov't which claimed that JFK's murder was done by a "lone nut," same as with RFK; the same gov't which shot Randy Weaver's wife @ Ruby Ridge while she held a baby in her arms; the same gov't which massacred innocents at Waco - are you tired of this litany, yet?  There IS more, you know.  A LOT more.  Ever visit geoengineeringwatch?  What about blackboxvoting?
 
What i'm saying is this: anyone who trusts anything anyone in government says without checking it out first is a damned idiot - maybe literally so.  If a gov't agent told me the sky was blue, i'd go out and look for myself.  Any other course of action is sheeplike, ergo extremely foolish.
FacePalm Added Sep 15, 2018 - 9:35pm
Rusty Smith-
You ain't seen nuthin', yet.  Ever hear of the CAFR?  Fellah named Walter Burien first began to expose it back in '99.  IIRC, he said that every State(and many local municipalities) have a fund they keep hidden from the public which usually contains BILLIONS of bux.  What they do is get estimates from various localities as to their needs/requirements for funding, but everything not used gets tossed into this slush fund, and the next year, they put forward their requirements again without mentioning the monies they already have on-hand.
 
IIRC, it was Governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura who blew the whole deal wide open when he not only STOPPED State taxes from being collected one year, but sent REFUNDS to most Citizens of his state.
 
Yeah, Washington was right; human governments are evil - a necessary evil, but evil they are and evil they remain, so keeping a close watch on them and exposing them every chance that becomes opportune is THE paramount duty of every honest American.
Doug Plumb Added Sep 16, 2018 - 9:31am
CAFR is something else eh? Millions are being stolen from municipalities. The assault is so wide spectrum that we each have to specialize and not try to become expert in everything. I chose law.