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i just read a rather interesting article, speculating about the ways and means Trump might TRULY drain the swamp.

 

If anyone's been following James O'Keefe and his various hidden cam vids, one knows that at least 3 State dept./DoJ employees were caught on tape confessing to how they've been deliberately opposing their Commander in Chief by either slow-walking, sabotaging, or outright refusing to carry out his orders.

 

According to this video, one DoJ employee was fired; according to this report, several more have been caught "obstructing and resisting," and have apparently broken several laws in the process - and these incidents point to far more widespread criminal activity on the part of deep state actors, particularly those promoting socialist agendas.

 

One of Trump's unfulfilled campaign promises was to "drain the swamp," and it appears that he may have a golden opportunity to remove MANY swamp denizens very soon.

 

Apparently, it is quite difficult to fire federal employees for much of any reason - until a certain threshold has been passed, for example that the government employees have been furloughed for 30 days or more; THEN, it becomes much easier. 

 

3 days remain before Trump could activate the figurative guillotine, and rid several gov't agencies of quite a few employees, especially ones promoting and advocating for forms of governance that the United States Constitution abhors...and with the hiring freeze in place, immense sums of money can also be saved.

 

An excerpt from the article i read appears below, slightly edited:

 

"Then, thanks to technical rules, the Trump administration is legally free to release anyone they want from their contract. And the White House can do so without cause — which saves a mountain of paperwork.

 

No lawsuit threats. No mass walkouts. No strikes. No paperwork.

 

Don’t want to work for the Trump administration? Buh-bye!

And just like that: no more “Deep State.”

 

The plan was hinted at by a senior Trump administration official in an anonymous op-ed in The Daily Caller.

 

“On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country,” the author wrote. “I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.

 

“Why would they?” the article asks. “We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position — some do this in the same position for more than a decade.”

 

The problem runs deep, the author claimed.

 

“Most of my career colleagues actively work against the president’s agenda,” the author wrote. “This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.”

 

In other words, anyone that’s a hardworking employee is well-known. The honest workers that rely on their jobs… that work hard every day… that serve their country above themselves? They are all safe.

But after two years, the Obama-era “Deep State” bureaucrats are also well-known to the Trump administration.

 

In just three days, the White House can finally start cleaning house.

And Schumer and pals never saw it coming."

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So, what do you think?  Will Trump git'r'dun, or will he hold off?

 

Do you think he even has a clue that in 3 days, he can do this?

 

Alternatively, is this cited article just some speculative bravo sierra?

Comments

opher goodwin Added Jan 18, 2019 - 4:48am
He is draining the swamp Face!!! - at least he's draining the wealth of the swamp straight into his own bank account.
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 5:40am
Opher-
i've pointed out several articles in the past which show that in less than 2 years in office, Trump has lost nxs of 1.5 billion - one thousand, five hundred millions - a lotta dough.  i've yet to find ANY substantive article which shows a net increase of his fortune. 
 
Thanks for posting, but you're off topic.
The Burghal Hidage Added Jan 18, 2019 - 9:05am
Interesting theory. Lets hope its proven. There are a number of these malefactors who need to see some jail time. Too bad we cant just shoot them 
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 9:28am
TBH-
Reminded me of this:
 
"America is at that awkward stage.  It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.  On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent."
-- Claire Wolfe
Source: "101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution"
 
Based on observation of the tactics of antifa, blm, and bamn(among other cretins like the SPLC), the dems certainly seem to have gotten the message.  Republicans, on the whole, appear to be stuck on polite.
TexasLynn Added Jan 18, 2019 - 10:26am
FacePalm,
You are one of my favorite authors/commenters on this forum simply because of your starry-eyed optimism.  It reminds me of me a couple of decades ago; when I had hope that this broken mess was redeemable.
 
I read your stuff, reminisce, and then so want to… crush that spirit of hope that lives within you. :)
 
My guess is that this falls in the last of the three options… speculative bravo sierra (BS).
 
First, let’s assume I’m wrong.  Let’s assume this was the plan all along OR that somebody realized somewhere along the way, “Hey we can do this”.  Logistically I don’t see it as possible.  Your own source says, we need to rid most agencies of about 80% of the staff.  It’s just not going to happen.  Even if you concentrated your efforts at around 10% the Dems (through the courts) would stop it.
 
But really… I don’t think that was ever part of the plan when it comes to this shut-down; plain and simple.  Somebody, somewhere likely dreamt up the scenario out of wishful thinking, posted it, and it grew.  That’s my guess.
 
Do I hope I’m wrong?  You bet.  I hope that about a lot of things all the time.  But I seldom am.
 
Good post.
 
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FaceP >> Opher… Thanks for posting, but you're off topic.
 
Every time someone mentions Trump (and sometimes just for the hell of it) guys like Opher just have to grace us with their remarkable observation that…
 
“Trump Baaaaaaaaddddd!”  (I always envision an annoyed green Hulk prancing around repeating this... with tattered clothing but still impeccably wearing that Opher hat.)
 
But that’s about the equivalent of the “contribution” to the thread.
 
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TBH >> There are a number of these malefactors who need to see some jail time. Too bad we cant just shoot them.
 
Which to me kinda brings up a point.  Lois Lerner is not in jail.  If the likes of this woman is living high on the hog on a government pension after what she did… the swamp is not being drained… an example is not being set.
 
Trump has been in office for two years… and … and … Lois Lerner and that cabal at the IRS is not even being looked at.  So, what are the chances any of these other ten-of-thousands are going to be held accountable?
 
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FaceP >> But 80 percent [of Federal Employees] feel no pressure to produce results.
 
I remember years ago a headline that read something like “Eighty Percent of Federal Employees Could be Replace by Robots”; to which I commented “Subtitle: Robots Learn to Surf Porn
 
FaceP >> Republicans, on the whole, appear to be stuck on polite.
 
I have said it before, and I’ll say it again.  “The Republican Party will NEVER be the solution of what ails this country.”  Being pussies is only a small part of the reason why.
Steel Breeze Added Jan 18, 2019 - 10:26am
one can only hope...
Bill H. Added Jan 18, 2019 - 11:19am
 
Trump IS the swamp. His staff are the creatures that live within.
The Owl Added Jan 18, 2019 - 11:23am
I will agree that many of those in the senior management of the Civil Service function as their own masters without much constraint from their political masters.  Policies are set by entrenched deep state and followed to the best of their abilities irrespective of roadblocks thrown in their way.
 
I spent 25 years of my career working with and for this class of bureaucrats, ending as a member of the staff of the Technical Director of one of our government's research laboratories.  I have seen Deep State at all levels of the Civil Service
 
On behalf of the civil servants with whom I have worked, and somewhat contrary to popular belief, an overwhelming majority of them are honest, hard-working, and dedicated to the jobs that they have.  They are certainly motivated by staying employed by the Civil Service, the retirement benefits are extraordinary, but what employee anywhere isn't interested remaining employed?  They work in conditions that are best described as overcrowded and hamstrung, and arbitrary.
 
There are certainly two sides to this question, and one of those sides is deeply troubling.
 
What we have been shown by the accident of a few text messages between two FBI lovers is a disgusting display of the abuse of power.  Those involved, if not prosecuted by Mueller and his team, need to be prosecuted by Attorney General Barr.  (I am not at all sanguine over the possibility of Mueller actually doing the job that the evidence suggests he should do, but that is a different discussion.)
 
The shenanigans of Civil Service senior executives are both self-serving and subversive, sometimes in equal measure.  Slow-walking is endemic as political masters come and go.  And, as slow-walking is a deliberate disregard of policy authority, the act is undeniably subversive.
 
The efforts of McCabe & Co and the incompetence or concurrence of James Comey cross all lines of acceptability.  I would suggest that the mere exposure of their actions has had a salutary effect in reigning in the excesses.  If further actions are taken, it may cement in the limits of deep state activities for a generation or two.
 
Unfortunately, bureaucracy is frequently far more potent than the law.  It is the natural tendency of bureaucracy to become a breeding ground for governmental swamp creatures no matter how thorough any cleaning might be. 
 
Perhaps the best way to strangle bureaucracy, the swamp nursery, and deep state is to force Congress to reassume its role as the maker of law and to rescind the authorities that they have delegated to unelected "technocrats".
 
 
 
 
 
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 12:04pm
SB-
Faith, baby.  It DOES change things.
 
Tex-
Thanks for your appreciation.  Now, not to critique your critique much, but - the article contains a link to the material upon which the article i quoted from was based.  target="_blank">The Daily Caller.  i included quotation marks around that which i didn't write, and you attributed some things i didn't write to me.  NBD.  Just wanted to bring it to your attention.
 
i like to think that faith can move mountains.  Not sure about swamps, but according to Christ, that mustard-seed thing is incredibly powerful, so...
 
From what i understand, Trump is well-aware of the "stay-behind" network that D'OhBama not only put in place, but funded just before he left office, so i think he may avail himself of the opportunity to rid himself of some PITA's - and if he doesn't, he'll have occasion to regret not doing so.  i think that if and when he makes a bold move, most Americans will applaud, cheer, and say "It's about time!"  Well, except for the leftists...but they hate America anyway, so who cares about them?
 
i also liked how the initial article i found concluded, that Trump may make a political move which will catch Schumer and his ilk off-guard.
 
But by Monday, i expect we'll see, one way or the other.
TexasLynn Added Jan 18, 2019 - 1:24pm
Bill H >> Trump IS the swamp. His staff are the creatures that live within.
 
Or to paraphrase, we have another vote for “Trump Baaaaaaaaddddd!  Hulk smaaaaash!” :)
 
What would we do without Opher and Bill (and a few others) to constantly steer the conversation back to this universal “truth”?
 
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Owl >> I spent 25 years of my career working with and for this class of bureaucrats...
 
I've spent my 25+ career battling one federal bureaucracy or another in a constant attempt to get things done.
 
1) Right out of college (in the early 90s) I worked in the Natural Gas Industry... and the incompetence of the FERC (Federal Energy Regularoty Commission) was jaw dropping.
 
2) I moved on to commodities trading and the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission) was a little less incompetent... but much more process and tons of paperwork oriented.
 
3) Now I deal with the US Army Corps of Engineers, again less incompetent... but very, very, very, very, very, very, very… foot dragging.
 
I came to the opinion long ago that no Federal agency is worth a warm bucket of spit.  Just IMHO.
 
Owl >> Perhaps the best way to strangle bureaucracy, the swamp nursery, and deep state is to force Congress to reassume its role as the maker of law and to rescind the authorities that they have delegated to unelected "technocrats".
 
Here you hit upon the real problem and solution.  So, amen.  That authority, Constitutionally, never should have left Congress in the first place.
 
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FaceP >> you attributed some things i didn't write to me.
 
I did shoot the messenger... but it was just a flesh wound you big baby. :)
 
You read the article and you hope it's true... so do I.  I just probably doubt it to an n'th degree more than you.
 
I look at Lois Lerner and say Trump has done nothing... I can't help but see that as a sign of what is in store for the swamp.  Cushy pensions and business as usual.
 
FaceP >> But by Monday, i expect we'll see, one way or the other.
 
Let's not push it.  How about next Friday. :)
John Minehan Added Jan 18, 2019 - 2:50pm
I might credit this but for Jim Mattis's recent resignation.
The Owl Added Jan 18, 2019 - 4:40pm
I have no wish to tarnish Secretary Mattis' distinguished career and his fine stewardship as head of the Department of Defense. But no one, absolutely no one rises to the level of general (four stars) without being a consummate bureaucrat and effective "deep state".
 
The question becomes how willing that person is in bucking the system when it comes time to swamp draining and having the power to do so.
 
As far as I can tell, Secretary Mattis did little to drain the civilian swamp of the Department of Defence and merely assured the promotions those in the military who shared his world views.  But, isn't that what senior officers and their political master do?
 
The left cheers that Mattis appeared as their bulwark against offensive moves by his President, Donald Trump.  But the left forgets the relationships that the Constitution defines for the Chief Executive and the Commander in Chief, the sole and exclusive right to set foreign policy and the superior officer of anyone in the military.
 
There are certain issues, much to the left's chagrin, where Trump has succeeded where others have failed.  He has North Korea doing more talking than threatening.  He has Europe openly and actively discussing their future roles in their own defense.  He has honored the "red line" that Obama drew in his sand trap as regards Assad's use of Chemical weapons.  He has stepped up the destruction of the ISIS forces to the point that he believes that troops can begin to come home from Syria.  He has concluded that fighting in Afghanistan for the rest of a second decade might not be in our best interests.  He has forced some of our trading partners to the table to redress some of the more egregious advantage-taking that our "allies" and others have been exercising at our expense.  He has gotten our "friends" and enemies to think twice about assuming that they know how the United States is going to respond.
 
Many of these successes don't play well in the realms of the globalists and world governmentists.  But that is fine with me.
 
Globalization and world government are pipe dreams just like "universal" anything and/or everything is going to be for the benefit of all.  Those pipe dreams are just as improbable and impossible as scientists being able to discover in the next billion or so years what exactly the universe was like inside the singularity that was the material source for the Big Bang as if there was anything there in the first place.
 
 
 
Ward Tipton Added Jan 18, 2019 - 7:27pm
"Your own source says, we need to rid most agencies of about 80% of the staff."
 
How about just doing away with eighty percent of the agencies themselves? If we are giving legislative power back to congress and not allowing these unaccountable elements to create legislation via fiat through regulation and statute ... at best they should be part time consultants. 
Eric Reports Added Jan 18, 2019 - 7:38pm
Trump needs to gut the system which allowed such corruption.  Our nation is truly at a crossroads.  We may never have the chance again.  God bless President Trump.
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 9:53pm
The Owl-
Perhaps the best way to strangle bureaucracy, the swamp nursery, and deep state is to force Congress to reassume its role as the maker of law and to rescind the authorities that they have delegated to unelected "technocrats."
 
One thing at a time; getting rid of the deadwood all by itself will be an amazing improvement.  Restoring Constitutional governance, i.e. by putting in people who are obedient to their oaths of office, is going to take a great deal of effort.
 
But where they should start, if they really want America to recover, is to tear up the charter of the Fed, and require Congress to do their duty by the Constitution, that is to exercise the power lawfully delegated to them ALONE, and that is to "coin money and declare it's value."  They never had a right to delegate that power, and the fact that it's been Unconstitutionally delegated for well over a hundred years is at the root of most of America's troubles, today.  But as long as we're dreaming, dream big, i say.
 
"Of all contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money."
-- Daniel Webster(1782-1852), US Senator
 
"Most unquestionably there is no legal tender, and there can be no legal tender, in this country, under the authority of this government or any other, but gold and silver, either the coinage of our own mints, or foreign coins, at rates regulated by congress. This is a constitutional principle, perfectly plain, and of the very highest importance. The states are expressly prohibited from making anything but gold and silver a tender in payment of debts; and although no such express prohibition is applied to congress, yet as congress has no power granted to it, in this respect, but to coin money and to regulate the value of foreign coins, it clearly has no power to substitute paper, or anything else, for coin, as a tender in payment of debts and in discharge of contracts. Congress has exercised this power, fully, in both its branches. It has coined money, and still coins it; it has regulated the value of foreign coins, and still regulates their value. The legal tender, therefore, the constitutional standard of value, is established and cannot be overthrown. To overthrow it, would shake the whole system. The constitutional tender is the thing to be preserved, and it ought to be preserved sacredly, under all circumstances."
- Daniel Webster, 1836
 
Ward-
How about just doing away with eighty percent of the agencies themselves?
If i had a direct line to the President, i might write something like "Send out an EO to the heads of every Federal Bureau or Agency or Department, demanding that they show Constitutional authorization for their existence within 30 days.  Failure to provide such evidence would mean elimination of all those currently suckling at the gov't teat."  IOW, Great Idea, Ward ... but it's perhaps comparable to the mice who decided it'd be a great idea to bell the cat...IOW, while we mice can't do it, Trump as Big Dog certainly could.
 
Eric Reports:
True, and i'm in 100% agreement.
 
Gerrilea Added Jan 18, 2019 - 9:59pm
FacePalm--- If only, if only...
 
Great article but he's already signed into law a bill that grants any furloughed federal employee back pay.  He ain't gonna drain the swamp. 
 
It reminds me of the Q'anon distraction, again.
 
Hell, Trump has made it clear, various times to push gun control. He's part of that New World Order. 
 
Look at his selection for AG, William Barr.  He's all for those "Red Flag Laws".
 
 
Gerrilea Added Jan 18, 2019 - 10:11pm
FacePalm--- I just noticed the one link cut off part of what Trump actually said, "Take the guns first, due process later!" To paraphrase.
 
He's anything but a constitutionalist. 
 
Hell, the USMCA, his "renegotiated" NAFTA deal is the TPP in disguise:
 
"Not only is it still alive, it is larger and much worse than NAFTA! The text of the USMCA, according to former U.S. Ambassador to Canada Bruce Heyman, has portions and chapters of the agreement that are identical to those in the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Robert Lighthizer even admitted it is “built on” many TPP aspects. These facets, according to The New American writer Christian Gomez, have the potential to strip the U.S. of its sovereignty: 
 

Much like the TPP Commission, the Free Trade Commission can make changes to the USMCA without the consent of Congress. In fact, the agreement completely undermines Congress’ Constitutional Article I, Section 8 power to regulate trade with foreign nations."
 
 
 
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 10:43pm
Yeah, i was disappointed that he chose a friend of Mew-ler to be his boss, too.
 
You may be right - and in fact, probably are, just like TexasLynn - but i prefer to hope for the best.
 
As to your links - you DO realize that the commentators from the youtube are from CNN, right?  i wouldn't trust any CNN commentator as far as i could heave a 10' tall concrete statue.
 
As to the background checks, i don't trust gov't agencies to do this, esp. in an era where conservatives are routinely discriminated against in terms of their free speech, and ultimately, what backs our ability to speak freely is our arms; i would prefer that these "background checks" consist of replies to detailed questionnaires sent to 5 of his closest neighbors and/or friends and relatives who have known him/her for at least 5 years, and their willingness - or not - to stand up for his right, to testify as to his character on his behalf.  After all, if some socialist idiot gets elected at any point in the future, the "gov't policy" will be dictated by them, not Trump.  Had The Liar been elected, most of us would have been "relieved" of our firearms by now, and/or be dead or in what she laughingly described as "summer camps."
 
i'm also ok with opening up more psychiatric care facilities, too, but only if their focus is on re-training or restoring patients toward becoming responsible Citizens, instead of mere warehousing and drugging, save in the most severe of cases, with regular reviews of patient status/treatment plan by independent evaluators.
 
But near the end of the linked written article, the author cites the same APA which recently came out in favor of emasculating males, and put out a list of "undesirable traits" which in large part are exactly what sane women find attractive...IOW, to be suspicious of their motives and methods is prudent...examining the list of donors to their cause, and what THEIR motives are, as well, would also be advisable.
 
i've heard that a great question to ask any head-shrinker is "how many people have you cured"? as a heads-up alert to their efficacy in diagnosing and treating their patients.
Ward Tipton Added Jan 18, 2019 - 10:46pm
I wish I could argue with you Gerrilea ... left jackboot or right jackboot ... the jackboot is still the same, just shaped a little different. 
Ward Tipton Added Jan 18, 2019 - 11:00pm
"You may be right - and in fact, probably are, just like TexasLynn - but i prefer to hope for the best."
 
Prepare for the worst while hoping for the best. If you want to live in peace, prepare for war. 
 
"As to the background checks, i don't trust gov't agencies to do this, esp. in an era where conservatives are routinely discriminated against in terms of their free speech, and ultimately, what backs our ability to speak freely is our arms; i would prefer that these "background checks" consist of replies to detailed questionnaires sent to 5 of his closest neighbors and/or friends and relatives who have known him/her for at least 5 years, and their willingness - or not - to stand up for his right, to testify as to his character on his behalf."
 
Gee, next thing you know, you will be telling us that traditional masculinity is not an emotional disorder ... when the APA clearly seems to believe it is ... and will likely list it in the next revision of the DSM. 
 
After all, anyone who feels the need to own a firearm to protect themselves is crazy for not trusting the police ... and therefore should be prohibited from being considered able to own a firearm! 
 
Gosh golly gee Wally ... don't you know that?
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 11:16pm
Gerrilea-
Please ignore any personal questions; do not dignify them with any kind of response or reaction.  You know he's just "gigging," trying to provoke you to anger.
 
Ward-
Gee, next thing you know, you will be telling us that traditional masculinity is not an emotional disorder...
Pretty sure that's exactly what i did.  Not a mental flaw or defect, either.  That said, ever since i learned "master your desires or your desires will master you," i have been a strong proponent of personal liberty over slavery...to anything or anyone at any time for any reason.
FacePalm Added Jan 18, 2019 - 11:20pm
Ward-
These are excellent watchwords, as well, from one of my heroes:
 
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."
-- Patrick Henry(1736-1799) US Founding Father
Source: "The War Inevitable" speech to the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775
http://www.law.ou.edu/hist/henry.html
 
...to address your earlier point about hoping for the best while preparing for the worst...
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 12:06am
Ryan-
You have chosen to ignore my request, disrespected me, and have shown your blatant hypocrisy with gusto, ergo the timeline was accelerated.
 
i will keep my word to immediately delete everything you post to any article i write henceforth, save you humble yourself and apologize.  You are not fit to judge me, but the measure you have applied to me is EXACTLY how you will be judged, yourself, and not only by me, but by everyone who's had the displeasure of your acquaintance as well as the one you call "Lord, lord," but deign to disobey.
Gerrilea Added Jan 19, 2019 - 12:53am
FacePalm--- Thank you??? I missed the posting...I guess you hit that big old red "X".
 
For a second I thought you were talking about Ward T, then I saw your final post.  ROFL.
 
Ward T was correct however, they can claim anything is a mental disorder and summarily deny you your rights.
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 1:16am
He wanted you to declare your gender, like it somehow is his business.  As usual with him, if one discloses any personal information which he finds to be displeasing, he will extrapolate upon it to declare the confessor a "sinner," and therefore worthy of his - not God's - judgment.  As an alleged follower of Christ, he should be completely aware that he'll reap what he's sown, or Christ is a liar; i've warned him repeatedly about this before, but he ignores it.
 
He is not the Searcher of Mind and Heart, but i know He who IS. 
Once upon a time, a guy was forgiven a HUGE load of sin, more than he ever could atone for - then the forgiven one went out and pestered people about their trifling(in comparison) sins; when he was found out, he was cast to the torturers.  This, paraphrased, is the point of the Parable of the Ungrateful Servant, Matt. ch. 18, as best i recall.
 
So while i forgive him his great sin of being a pedant and a miserly judge of others, i won't allow him to spread his poison on this comment section.  The spewer of the vitriol is the one most hurt by it, anyway, and i would spare any other reader the pain of the figurative acid attack.
 
i did find the article written by a member of the Birch society to be of interest; i had heard that it contained provisions it should not contain, and i don't know if Congress passed it as it was, or if the offending sections had been excised, first.  i believe that Trump may not be aware that he was betrayed, and when he finds out, there are likely to be consequences.  If not, i must in good conscience abandon my support for him.
 
I just did a search for "USMCA passed," and found nothing, so apparently it hasn't been approved by Congress, yet.  The closest i found was that both Canadian and Mexican reps had agreed and signed it.
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 2:17am
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Flying Junior Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:11am
So Face, let me get this straight.  You view federal employees as deeply entrenched and difficult to terminate.  Beyond this, you feel that they are infiltrated by, "the swamp," or more succinctly stated, the Deep State.
 
So your fondest hope is that the monster simply fire all federal employees as a preemptive strike against the Deep State?
Did I get this right?  That would certainly put Ronald Reagan to shame for only having fired every air traffic controller.  It also sheds light on why you republican crazies are okay with this temper tantrum hostage crisis?  Wow man.  You can't make that shit up.
 
How about some sympathy for the hundreds of thousands of American who are being played like pawns in chess at the mad vagaries of the incompetent president?
 
It's not just Face.  It's all of you who would place your fascist puppet above the needs and concerns of all Americans.  It's anti-American.  It's the very opposite of patriotism.  And it's fucking unconstitutional for all of you fake scholars.
Flying Junior Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:13am
Oh, just like I figured.  It's a McCarthyist witch hunt where you only fire the democrats, independents and moderate republicans.  That would have been my first guess.
Flying Junior Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:15am
Buh-bye the United States of America is closer to what you are trying to say.
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:34am
Did you actually read this article, distinguish between what i wrote and the article i cited(separated by +++ marks and quotations), and follow the 3 links, reading those, as well?
 
At the end of my article, i asked 3 questions.  Would you like to answer any of them?
Flying Junior Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:51am
I read your three questions.
 
So, what do you think?  Will Trump git'r'dun, or will he hold off?
 
Do you think he even has a clue that in 3 days, he can do this?
 
Alternatively, is this cited article just some speculative bravo sierra?
 
I guess if this is some fancy way of saying that James O'Keefe and his ilk are violently bullshit anti-Americans, I apologize for my lack of any sense of humor.  Sarcasm is notoriously difficult to detect on-line.
 
I guess the article was nothing more than blatant trollism.  I'm glad to hear that you weren't sincere.  There is hope for the other side.
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 4:12am
No, the facts presented and the sentiments expressed are quite sincere, i assure you.
 
As to Project Veritas, the videos O'Keefe's undercovers provided literally speak for themselves.  Or rather, the ones caught on video saying what they said convicted themselves, in perfect keeping with:
 
"Have a care how you speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned."
 
At least 2 of those caught have been fired.  True or false?
Flying Junior Added Jan 19, 2019 - 4:14am
I'm in over my head.  I'm glad that you don't support the wholesale firing of federal employees.  Remember I am but a simply man.  I am not prepared for ideological warfare.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 19, 2019 - 7:31am
Trump is a figurehead who's been bought to officially state to drain the swamp while he is part of it.
 
That's comedy for the people. Same with Macron in France. But the French have figured that.
 
Tell the people what they want to hear, and good is. No matter what happens after :)))
Dino Manalis Added Jan 19, 2019 - 7:54am
 The Deep State is deeper than we think!
FacePalm Added Jan 19, 2019 - 8:55am
FJ-
I'm in over my head. 
i very much doubt that the Truth is over your head.
 
I'm glad that you don't support the wholesale firing of federal employees.
You misunderstand me, perhaps; i'm entirely in favor of firing every federal employee who is in violation of their oaths of office and is disobeying the orders of their Commander-in-Chief.
 
Remember I am but a simple man.  I am not prepared for ideological warfare.
i think you care about this country, and you care about the Truth.  In the end, that is all that really matters.
 
Dino-
The Deep State is deeper than we think!
i define the "Deep State" as those whose first loyalty is to the NWO/OWG, instead of this country - and these people are in key positions of both government and corporate entities.  Many of these are also pedophiles and satanists, and their MO is to catch public officials in sexual "honey traps," then blackmail them to carry out their dark agenda.
Blond Melon Chitlin Added Jan 19, 2019 - 10:27am
Stone-Eater says:
"Trump is a figurehead who's been bought to officially state to drain the swamp while he is part of it."
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It would be interesting to hear your rationalization of that opinion.
I think you have missed the mark by a mile.
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"That's comedy for the people. Same with Macron in France. But the French have figured that."
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Trump is a long way from being anything like Macron.  The "yellow vests" in the US are precisely the Americans who are rallying in support of President Trump and his efforts.
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"Tell the people what they want to hear, and good is. No matter what happens after :)))"
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Look at the record of what is actually happening and you will find; it isn't "tell the people what they want to hear", it's "tell them only what you want them to hear".
Who is doing the telling? The traditional Main Stream Media, now supplemented by the modern tech- giants of social media.
At some point, one has to decide for themselves that those who are lying to you, just aren't worth a listen.
Bill H. Added Jan 19, 2019 - 11:41am
 
Trump has lured and fooled many people, and continues to do so. His followers have somehow been convinced that they are the real "Patriotic Americans".
He has taken our Flag and made it a symbol of his greed, hate, corruption, and collusion with our adversaries, along with the abandonment of our Allies.
The real Patriots are the ones that really care for our country, it's people, and our place in the world. Once our Flag stood for a great nation, and it's time to make sure it does in the future.
The Owl Added Jan 19, 2019 - 3:31pm
I'm in over my head.  (-- FJ)
i very much doubt that the Truth is over your head....  -- Face Palm
 
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That may be true, but he needs to vang his main, trim his jib effectively (far too much twist in the leach), move the weight about 24 inches aft, and get the boat back on her lines.
 
No wonder he can't catch up to the fleet.
 
John Minehan Added Jan 19, 2019 - 4:29pm
"As far as I can tell, Secretary Mattis did little to drain the civilian swamp of the Department of Defence and merely assured the promotions those in the military who shared his world views.  But, isn't that what senior officers and their political master do?"
 
Well, what alternative do you offer?
 
I don't know Sec. Mattis, but I know (and respect) peers of his who are unstinting in their regard for him.
 
Having heard him speak at events and knowing something of his background, he is not a rigid thinker.  He is steeped in history and clearly knows the profession of arms.
 
Yes, you can reasonably complain of confirmation bias on the part of someone expert in any field.  However, Donald Trump, to be charitable, is not Captain Sir Basil Liddell Hart.
 
Trump has criticisms and opinions, however, none of them appear to  grounded on serious study of history, economics or strategy.
 
There are people who are quick studies, who can quickly grasp anything put before them and make incisive comments.  In my experience, GEN (R) Wesley Clark was such.
 
I don't yet feel this is true of Trump.
 
I agree that being in Syria is a long term error, but disengaging in contact is not easy.  We will draw down Afghanistan, but that is already in the works, as is the diplomatic underpinnings needed to potentially make it work.  
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Jan 19, 2019 - 4:39pm
Fire the  leftist parasites 
Dr. Rupert Green Added Jan 19, 2019 - 5:32pm
Civil servant foot-dragging predates Trump If civil servants do not like a president's policy, they can take years to find a pen for him to sign a bill. In fact, such action is part of the check and balance. However, outright disobedience is fool hardy. 
Jeff Michka Added Jan 19, 2019 - 5:59pm
Drain the Swamp?  You Trumpists will believe anything the Orange garbage bags says.  How does appointing Steve Munchkin and Betsy DeVos (both billionaires) and hardly not swamp creatures to his cabinet "aid" the draining process?  Ol Ward and a few others, chime in rightist virtue signaling...and when will you folks begin begging Ward to sell you prepper foods like Jim Bakker does?   You people don't want the Swamp drained, you eant a swamp for your very own... And if one is to take any of you seriously, doesn't the government shutdown keep the hatch closed on the Deep State?  The black helicopters sit waiting for their crews to come and get your guns!!!  And we got more rightist claims of disloyal people in the Trump admin, trying to undo the Orange garbage bag, but as always offer no proof, just "inflammatory words."  How special.
Flying Junior Added Jan 20, 2019 - 1:23am
It's Joe McCarthy Act II.  Trump wants loyalty oaths.  Next comes blacklisting.  See how Face Palm favors the termination of hundreds of thousands of federal workers without any criteria other than they are not loyal to the president.  Who would decide this?  People dying and living in poverty has always been just peachy with fascist dictators.
 
That's got to be better than 50% of federal employees.  People hate that demon from hell.
 
Face,
 
These are not agents of the Deep State.  They are just ordinary Americans like you and me.
FacePalm Added Jan 20, 2019 - 7:47am
The Owl-
The efforts of McCabe & Co and the incompetence or concurrence of James Comey cross all lines of acceptability.  I would suggest that the mere exposure of their actions has had a salutary effect in reigning in the excesses.  If further actions are taken, it may cement in the limits of deep state activities for a generation or two.
 
My hope is that a purge takes place which exceeds that of Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre.
 
Stone-
Trump is a figurehead who's been bought to officially state to drain the swamp while he is part of it.
It is my understanding that he was recruited, deliberately solicited to run for president to repel and discomfit the globalist infiltrators in the USG.
 
That's comedy for the people. Same with Macron in France. But the French have figured that.

i'm glad for the French, and hope that the EU army doesn't go hard metal jacket on the protestors, that is, start flagrantly murdering people instead of blowing their hands off with stun grenades or blowing eyes out with rubber bullets.  While Trump may shoot for comedy every once in awhile, i believe that when it comes to the globalists, he's deadly serious.
 
Tell the people what they want to hear, and good is. No matter what happens after :))) 

i don't think that's what's happening; from the evidence, Trump genuinely loves the regular working people of this country, and loves America; he'll continue to do his best for us regular folks, and if many corporate entities have also benefited, that helps people to have jobs, pay bills, educate their children, and in short, have MUCh more prosperity than has existed in America since the globalist shill presidents began to dismantle America's manufacturing base, attempting - and succeeding in - turning America into a "service economy" of mostly low-paying jobs...if anyone could find them.  i'm hearing that now, there are more jobs available than Americans willing to fill those jobs, which is why wages are rising - and it's still less than 2 years since Trump has been in office.
 
Luther Wu-
Who is doing the telling? The traditional Main Stream Media, now supplemented by the modern tech- giants of social media.
At some point, one has to decide for themselves that those who are lying to you, just aren't worth a listen.

Well said; the majority of MSM is little more than mouthpieces for the democratic party, figurative "Mouths of Sauron."  Have you noticed how often that the public statements of democrat leaders are reiterated, word for word, on every MSM outlet?  It's brainwashing by repetition, a Hitlerian Big Lie tactic, and most Americans ain't fallin' for it; they're learning to recognize and reject it much more swiftly, these days.
FacePalm Added Jan 20, 2019 - 8:15am
John Minehan-
I agree that being in Syria is a long term error, but disengaging in contact is not easy.  We will draw down Afghanistan, but that is already in the works, as is the diplomatic underpinnings needed to potentially make it work.    
i don't know why Mattis was fired, but suspect it was one of  2 reasons: 
1.  Trump was lied to, and Matthis was insuboordinate by not obeying orders, or
2.  Mattis was caught supporting the Deep State globalists over American nationalists, ergo undermining and subverting Trump's main objective.
 
Until the smoke clears and all can be revealed, the foregoing is but speculation.
i'm glad that Trump is pulling out of both Syria and Afghanistan; both wars have gone on FAR too long, and far too many American servicemembers have fallen prey to the Russian Roulette game of repeated postings to war zones.
 
rycK-
Fire the  leftist parasites. 
Concise.  i concur.
 
Michka-
Apparently, you're not picking up on the real war: between the globalists and the nationalists, between the NWO/OWG swine and Americans who love America first.  But you're leaving soon, and perhaps you'll see Italy's nationalism rise as being inspirational, as their new president despises globalists, too, particularly the Brussels Bureaucrat scum.  i'd suggest you closely observe/monitor developments in Brazil, for their new president is ALSO anti-globalist.
 
Flying Junior-
It's Joe McCarthy Act II. 
Not at all.
 
Trump wants loyalty oaths.
And your evidence is...?
 
Next comes blacklisting. 
And your evidence is...?
 
See how Face Palm favors the termination of hundreds of thousands of federal workers without any criteria other than they are not loyal to the president.
No, the criteria are a) obedience to the Constitution; b) obedience to their Commander-in-Chief c) the removal of globalist scum, and d) removal of saboteurs, slow-walkers, and defiant leftists who are working toward a socialist takeover of America, in my estimation.
 
Who would decide this? 
How about their supervisors, who know exactly who the slackers and obstructers and resisters are?
 
People dying and living in poverty has always been just peachy with fascist dictators.
That may be true, but it's not true of Trump.  If Trump were the "fascist" you claim, he'd've taken a page from Lincoln's book, who arrested and imprisoned THOUSANDS of media people "for the duration" of the War, or he would have blackshirts or brownshirts beating innocent people and destroying the property of those who disagree with him in the streets, as did both Mussolini(inventor of fascism) and Hitler.  Who is ACTUALLY doing that?  Antifa. 
The general government was intended from the beginning to be small, so that the States could express the will of the People OVER them as their servants, not their masters.  The globalists certainly intend to be our masters, and would have been had The Liar been elected.

 
That's got to be better than 50% of federal employees.
The article cites a supervisor who stated that at least 80% are slackers who deserve to go, but a quick, sharp reduction of, say 50% will be a heads-up to the rest, guaranteed, if it happens.  These seditious, disobedient churls need to greatly fear the axe which will separate them from their cushy jobs and retirement plans.
 
 People hate that demon from hell.
Around 70 million voters do not either hate him or think him a demon; that YOU do is a shame, for you're refusing to be grateful for any of the many great things Trump has done for many great people.  Your hatred damages you as much as "the rev's" does him. 
 
Face,
These are not agents of the Deep State.  They are just ordinary Americans like you and me.

As is now obvious from the foregoing, i quite disagree.  America is a Constitutional Republic, not the United Socialist States of America.  All who violate their oaths to the Constitution need to go, with a boot in their asses if they refuse to go quietly - then then can get REAL jobs "like you and me."  Ever read the DoI's list of complaints against the Crown?  Jefferson wrote (among other things) about the "he hath sent hither swarms of officers to eat out our substance," and that's exactly what these oathbreakers are doing, swindling Americans by their laziness, intransigence, disobedience, indolence, and sabotage.
 
Flying Junior Added Jan 20, 2019 - 4:18pm
Good passion there Face.