Upper-Class Sociopaths

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I haven't known very many rich and/or well-to-do people, and probably never will. However, the very few that I have at least been acquainted with are among the most mean, vicious, psychotic and sociopathic people I've ever encountered. They routinely get away with many things that you and I do not, and never will. It always has, and always will make perfect sense to me, because of the Golden Rule: Those Who Have the Gold, Make the Rules, and by extension, So Do Our Fucking Asshole Kids. Anyway, the latest imbroglio regarding the current Supreme Court nominee got my attention for some strange reason.

 

First of all, the fucking NAME that's worthy of a typical overprivileged fraternity villain: Brett Kavanaugh, meet Greg Marmalard, Doug Niedermeyer, and Dean Vernon Wormer! And then his appearance; after looking at this yuppie larva for only a few seconds, it was easy for me to see this dickhead pulling the shit he is accused of, and even more, like him and his well-financed buddies gang ass-raping somebody with a mop handle. The fact that he seems to be all Catholic and shit only raises a bigger and brighter red flag; former FBI agent Robert Hansson was a fanatical Catholic, and is still regarded as among the most damaging spies in U.S. history.

 

Judge Kavanaugh reminds me of a certain rich kid I knew some years ago. Although I was never a drug dealer, I usually knew where to get certain things, and that's something all social classes the world over have in common; the need to get HIGH! This dude, whom I'll call J.Dick Cock, wanted to do just that, which started a "friendship" that lasted several months. He actually was a cool dude at first, and was fun to hang out, party, and chase pussy with, but his generally sociopathic attitude and behavior started to put me off more and more as the weeks went by. For example, there were several instances where he pulled a gun on various people over parking spaces and traffic infractions, including one when he fired a shot about 2 inches from the head of somebody who refused to back down, and then another between his feet, which caused him to change his tune somewhat. He broke a bottle over the head of an ugly Korean bitch bartender, who, ironically, said J.D. Cock was himself ugly. She had it coming, but still. He also threw a drink in the face of a woman at an upscale bar for no apparent reason. I can go on and on.

 

What's the point of all of this? The last I heard, the rich kid I'm referring to was a MD! So, you can go from being a hell-raising, pot-smoking, booze-guzzling, coke-snorting, pistol-pulling, bottle-breaking, slut-fucking, total, complete, and absolute degenerate to a towering pillar of the community, as long as your Mommy and Daddy are in good financial standing! Is this not the greatest country on Earth!

Comments

James Travil Added Sep 26, 2018 - 11:43pm
I couldn’t agree more with you on this Michael. And from what I've heard of Kavanaugh he's a sociopath in more ways than one. His history on social liberties issues is abysmal, and he's got a record of backing war crimes and taking a big fat shit on international law. In short no decent person could vote for him, which means that the Republicans will probably confirm the fascist scumbag
 
By the way I knew a jackass like your J. Dick Cock, in fact I thought for a moment that you were describing him (he is another James, used to call himself "King James", that about explains him in a nutshell). I have no idea what ever became of the low life, but if there is any justice in the world he's doing time for heroin possession (that was his drug of choice). But, probably not! 
Michael B. Added Sep 26, 2018 - 11:48pm
@ James T. - They're pretty much all the same, huh? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if "King James" was a Superior Court judge, or even better, a prison warden, lol.
Ken Added Sep 26, 2018 - 11:56pm
I haven't known very many rich and/or well-to-do people, and probably never will. However, the very few that I have at least been acquainted with are among the most mean, vicious, psychotic and sociopathic people I've ever encountered.
 
I have and you are completely wrong.  People are people, some are very good some are very bad.  It has NOTHING to do with their socio-economic class.
 
Some of the nicest people I have ever met are quite well off as are some of the nastiest and most self absorbed.
 
But then, that is true of the very poor as well.
 
This post is absolutely insulting and a view of a world which you admit you have never even seen.
 
You compare Kavenaugh with 0 knowledge to Animal house.  How judgemental can you possibly be with absolutely no knowledge of his history.  I bet you don't even know the history of the basis for Animal House.  But then, hell, when have facts ever interrupted what you post, right bill?  I have rebutted you multiple times, and what do you do?  You just move on and move your agenda to another topic because you are completely unable to counter actual facts.
 
there are a number of incredibly rich people I know that while I disagree with their politics, they are some of the nicest people I have ever met.  Not the least of which are Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.  Some incredibly interesting stories I could tell about our conversations that would be missed.
 
Larry King is someone I know quite well (Billy Jean King's ex who started the WTA) and we actually have talked quite  a bit.
 
And yes, I am dropping names, but just to prove  my point, and only a subset as I also regularly interact with people who make 6 and 7 figures a year in my company.
 
Hatred because someone is well off is just sick class warfare.  None of these folks want to take from you to increase themselves.  They don't hate you, they aren't nasty, they aren't trying to keep you down.
 
That doesn't mean that there aren't some that do feel that way, but stereotyping wealth as you do is not only non-productive, it is simply wrong.
 
But again, hey, whatever supports your agenda and talking points right?  Regardless of actual facts!
 
You clearly have paid little attention to Kavenaugh - and while I am skeptical of several decisions he made, he voted in the majority 93% of the time with Merrick Garland, and is a very humble, geeky guy.  Whining about him is nothing more than partisan politics.  He is eminently qualified, and should be a virtually unanimous selection (far more so than RBG was with her lack of constitutional qualification and was almost unanimous).
 
This is nothing more than partisan politics nothing to do with qualifications, and now you are couching it in rich vs. poor.
 
Very sad.
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:05am
And from what I've heard of Kavanaugh he's a sociopath in more ways than one. His history on social liberties issues is abysmal, and he's got a record of backing war crimes and taking a big fat shit on international law. In short no decent person could vote for him, which means that the Republicans will probably confirm the fascist scumbag
 
yet again, another post that is flat out embarrassing to the poster, or should be.  "what you've heard"?  How about actually checking the facts.
 
his history on social liberties is abysmal?  Provide examples
 
Record of backing war crimes?  again provide examples
 
As far as international law goes, we aren't subject to that, never have been.  Other than the geneva convention treaty we signed and the senate confirmed, most current international laws have never been accepted by treaties, but hey, don't let the facts stop you, right?
 
No decent person can vote for him?  You have given absolutely no evidence why anyone shouldn't confirm him
 
Then to wrap it up you call him a fascist. PROVE IT
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:09am
Ken, you are the embarrassment to yourself! You support scum who shits all over the US Constitution and aren't even man enough to have done the research about the fiend! Here, I'll do your homework for you this time only. Now extract your head from your ass, if you can. Idiot. 
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:14am
@ Ken - You seem like the type that would be holding the mop handle as it is inserted into some poor underclass ass by rapacious assholes like the type you are so vigorously defending. I don't need some sycophantic apologist like your sorry ass telling me anything about anything. Fuck off and die, Ken.
 
By the way, every person I've ever met named "Ken" has been a total fucking dildo; you are the latest iteration; go blow somebody, you closet fucking faggot.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 27, 2018 - 3:00am
Having lived in Aspen I had opportunity to rub shoulders with lots of rich people. There were the seriously rich that lived up on Red Mountain or Woody Creek, the NY stockbroker/Dallas plastic surgeon types, the pop-culture/hollywood types, and my favorite the black sheep of the prominent family types. 
 
In my considered opinion 99.825% of the first three categories were gaping fuckin' assholes. Predators each and every one and damn proud of it. Many were CFR members. Almost all were coked out freaks of the highest order. Sick people. Sick ideas. 
 
But, the skiing was great, the girls top shelf and plenty of restaurants and bars to keep from getting bored. 
 
A guy I knew was captain on what was then a big yacht needed a relief 1st mate for a few months while the permanent guy recuperated from a bad accident. I was off the ship for 4 months so I figured what the hell I'd fly down to Antigua and take it. 
 
The yacht belonged to the grand children of some robber barons. To their credit they were unerringly polite to the crew at all times in all things. I can't say their guests were. I had the distinct displeasure of listening to the filth that came out of the mouths of such reptiles as GHWB, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Henry Kissinger. Between formal dinner courses I was expected to help provide service for I would retch into the anchorage they were so disgusting. 
 
I merely disliked wealthy powerful people prior to that experience.
 
From that day on it became an abiding hatred.
George N Romey Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:41am
Money and power do something to people-usually turns them into total assholes.  I personally can't speak to this guy Kavanaugh but I'd think it a safe bet when he was 17 he no a choir boy.  On second thought, the choir boys are the worst.
Leroy Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:58am
I agree with Ken.  There are good and bad people at all income levels.  Wealth has its advantages.  It gives the wealthy the means to be extremely nasty.  They can also be extremely gracious.  There are two ways to become wealthy without merit: one is the legal system, especially if you can become a judge; and, second way, a politician.  The two often go hand in hand.   I despise our legal system.
 
My college roommate came from money.  He remains one of my best friends.  He's a little elitist.  His sister is a big-time elitist, although there is nothing to her.  Some of you elitist Californians may know her.  He has the physical resemblance and personality of Winchester of MASH fame.  His grandfather was a judge and was filthy rich.  I never knew him, although I went to his house once.  Aside from my friend and his sister, the rest of the family are/were some of the most down-home people you would ever want to meet.  His mom was like a second mom to me.  She was a school principal and her husband, a mailman.  They always lived very modestly.  You would have never known they were millionaires.  The men are/were all lawyers, except my friend.  There were always very kind to me. The legal system seems to be the path to maintaining wealth.  
 
I grew up in a small town.  We all played together.  All of the men from money that I recall grew up to be lawyers.  They could be elitists when they had to be.  The first serious attempt to integrate the schools was when I was in the sixth grade.  That's when the wealthy formed a private school and their sons and daughters disappeared.  There were many poor who would have done the same thing if they had the means.
 
 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 10:21am
Being an asshole is one of the few remaining vocations that is truly equal opportunity: no money required.
 
I gotta go with Leroy on this one, Bucko :)
Doug Plumb Added Sep 27, 2018 - 10:31am
   The wealthy and well to do are most often more sensitive and more moral than the average Joe, they think in longer time terms and most often have a high quality education in Liberal arts as opposed to the professions and science. They recognize the wisdom of knowing law and therefore have a greater agency.
   The problem is that they live in a sea of stupidity and have strategies to adopt. Some are psychopaths and sociopaths, but I think most have been corrupted after any or all weaknesses in their nature have been exposed. Even the most well married man cannot resist temptation, especially when on certain types of drugs that he may or may not be aware of being in his system. His actions can be used against him later to corrupt him. This, I think, is what most often happens and is a major contributor to shaping the world to accept world government. Its an easy and cheap tool that can be used against almost anyone.
  Imagine you are a congressmen, someone puts something in your drink or in the air you breath, you do things that you previously could not imagine, things with children. You don't remember, you are shown video of it the next day. What do you do? You have a family to protect and most men will not spend the rest of their lives in prison to benefit humanity.
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:48pm
Got it JT.  medium.com (an extreme left wing web site) Written by Hina Shamsi (another left winger in the ACLU_) as an OPINION  complaining becaue Kavenaugh WHILE EMPLOYED BY the BUSH Administration, deferred to the president.
 
Funny how I quote the UN on what is going on at the UN and all of my sources are irrelevant, b ut you link a corrupt left wing organization in the ACLU that only defends left wing causes, and suddenly that is the gospel truth.
 
I have already stated that Kavenaugh was the worst choice on his list of 25 possible Supreme court nominees many times, including an entire article explaining why, but  I didn't have to drag it into partisanship to do it.
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:51pm
Fuck off and die, Ken.
 
By the way, every person I've ever met named "Ken" has been a total fucking dildo; you are the latest iteration; go blow somebody, you closet fucking faggot.
 
Classy as always, Michael.  been reading Saul Alinsky lately?
John Minehan Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:53pm
I have known good people who were graduates of Georgetown Prep, such as my Squad Leader when I was a Rat at VMI.
 
I have known good people who were wealthy and influential.
 
I will also say that there may be a temptation for them to take short cuts, especially where it concerns their children.  World Literature is full of such stories, such archetypes. 
 
Fitzgerald's aphorism, that "The rich, my friend, are different" rings true.  (However, Hemingway's comment, "Yes. They have more money," also rings true.)  
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 12:57pm
Ken - break out of your paradigms, dude. You got Michael all wrong. He's just a vulgarian. You know....right there between Turkey and Romania? Probably some of that gypsy blood in him :)
Gerrilea Added Sep 27, 2018 - 1:36pm
Michael B--- I was agreeing with you until you went after Kavanaugh, but don't take this as support for him as a SC Justice. 
 
If these women had legitimate claims, they had decades to make them known. These 11th hour smear tactics are shameful and disgusting.  Shit, we'll be hearing rumors of another woman's claims that he fondled, bit and sucked on her nipples back in 1965 and did it for almost a year!  Oh the shame!
 
(note, he was born in 1965, guess who the woman was)
 
Most of the newly rich people I've met are sociopaths and a few were truly psychopaths. Their wealth gave them the ability to never be held accountable for their actions.  Many enjoyed torturing others for pure entertainment purposes and others believed it was their "right" to do so.
 
There were a small handful of truly wealthy or old wealth, as I describe it, that were just as decent and caring as Mother Teresa.  Their wealth really didn't define them.
 
Ken-- The evidence of his positions in various cases are easily found with this site called "Google".   The highlights include his position that we can be forced to pay private for-profit companies for "insurance" is truly dangerous.  He claimed it was a "tax" and therefore the gov't could force us into legal contracts that provided no benefits to any of us.
 
His decisions on OSHA and safety in the workplace. Just because a job is inherently dangerous doesn't negate a companies responsibility to do the best to protect the workers they employ.  He argued they didn't have to and set our standards of employment and safety back 100 yrs.
 
His decision/opinion that employers can force us to "arbitration" protects his wealthy comrades, not the average person that doesn't understand the rights they "waived".
 
He was the most vocal supporter of military tribunals and holding citizens without charges, trial or conviction.
 
"The federal courts are not empowered to smuggle international law into the U.S. Constitution and then wield it as a club against Congress and the President in wartime."
 
The obvious problem here, we haven't been in a declared war since WWII. You know the part of the Constitution that requires Congress to "declare war", Article I, Section 8, Clause 11.
 
As for your "name dropping", pluease. 
 
Gates is dangerous.  I never would deny him is wealth, he truly gave us the tools to communicate almost instantaneously but when he uses it to push vaccines in the 3rd world to reduce our population, he's committing a crime against humanity.  In that moment he revealed who he was, a globalist that wants the riff-raff gone.
 
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 3:09pm
Gerri - I had forgotten that he was the first one to define the individual mandate as a tax, and I did not his issues on not requiring warrants for GPS tracking.  As far as "officially declaring war" - that is bogus.  Congress has passed many AUMF which fulfills their duty to authorize combat operations.
 
Either way, This shouldn't be further delayed.
 
I never said Gates wasn't dangerous, I did say I disagreed with his politics, That doesn't mean he isn't a pleasant, nice guy to be around in general.  I was simply poniting out while some rich and some poor people can be real jerks, some are also quite pleasant.  The author painting a blanket picture of crass wealthy just isn't accurate
Gerrilea Added Sep 27, 2018 - 4:27pm
Ken-- Understood.  While I do not agree with his decisions or his "take" on many issues dear to myself, I voted for Trump and the consequences were his choice for our Supreme Court.
 
Let the chips fall where they may, move on from the circus and vote the guy on to the Supreme Court.  Who knows, maybe he'll force our other branches to do their job better. 
 
I'd love for the laws they write to be clear and constitutional. If it means Roe v Wade, etc are overturned, sobeit.  We can always change the constitution to fix the problem.  I've never agreed with legislation from the bench.  It undermines everything we've been trying to build. A free and open society where our government is a neutral arbiter for our differences and doesn't give one claimant preferential treatment over another.
 
As for this article, it's a mixed bag and just one person's opinion from their limited experiences.  Money, or the lack thereof, doesn't change the person.  If they're evil as a poor person, they're most likely evil if they are wealthy.
 
I get the sense that maybe the author needs a bit more reflection on the issue.   Our society rewards with money and equates it with "good", until you look under the cover. Most wealthy people don't get there by being "good" or moral. We breed and reward sociopaths.
 
 
Leroy Added Sep 27, 2018 - 5:13pm
The US Congress has more than its fair share of wealth and cutthroats.
George N Romey Added Sep 27, 2018 - 6:01pm
There’s a big difference between the 1% and the .01%. The latter consists mostly of psychopaths.
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 6:54pm
"Got it JT. medium.com (an extreme left wing web site) "
Medium is an entirely neutral site, your calling is otherwise paints you as a total fucking idiot with zero credability. Thanks for making your ignorance clear and invalidating everything you say from this point forward. 
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 6:56pm
Also anyone who paints the ACLU as a Left-Wing organization, when in fact the ACLU is simply a non-partisan defender of the US Constitution, is clearly an unAmerican traitor. Thanks for making that clear about yourself also Ken. 
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:08pm

Also anyone who paints the ACLU as a Left-Wing organization, when in fact the ACLU is simply a non-partisan defender of the US Constitution,
 
That is absolutely false. just like NOW or NAACP they are highly partisan and virtually never protect constitutional rights of anyone on the right.  About once a decade they will take up a case to appear non-partisan. 
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:13pm
^more lies from the local unAmerican traitor Ken. To quote the author of this article, "fuck off and die Ken!" 
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:15pm
Judy be honest Ken, the real reason you bend over and take it up the ass from a fascist like Kavanaugh is because you idolize anyone who takes a big shit on the US Constitution. 
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:15pm
"The director of the American Civil Liberties Union has now acknowledged what should have been obvious to everybody over the past several years: that the ACLU is no longer a neutral defender of everyone's civil liberties; it has morphed into a hyper-partisan, hard-left political advocacy group. The final nail in its coffin was the announcement that for the first time in its history the ACLU would become involved in partisan electoral politics, supporting candidates, referenda and other agenda-driven political goals." - Alan Derschowitz (Lifelong Democrat)
 
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/civil-rights/347375-aclu-proves-yet-again-its-a-guardian-of-left-wing-movement
 
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12507/aclu-leftist-partisan
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:18pm
Dershowitz is full of shit. The ACLU never backs any specific candidates. Name one. 
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:28pm
Of course Ken is such an extremist right winger that he thinks FOX is a "leftist" site! Talk about shooting your credability in the foot. But no wonder he thinks a nonpartisan org is a "leftist" group (especially since they defend the Constitution something Ken despises). 
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:33pm
James - do you have trouble reading?  The links state exactly what is going on.
 
As far as the FOX comment - try reading the link from that far right wing university UCLA and the study I linked.
 
There is nothing non-partisan about the ACLU and hasn't been for decades.  In fact it is very widely known how partisan they have become.  Sorry you are in denial, aside from the links I provided, it is easy enough to find many more links
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:36pm
Derschowitz was quoting the CHAIRMAN OF THE ACLU.
 
The New Yorker (far from a right wing publication) was even all over how radically left the ACLU has gone.  Get your head out of the sand and open your mind
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 7:42pm
Like I said before, the ACLU doesn't back any specific candidates. I asked you to provide proof, you couldn't. Simple as that. The only reason for supporting an un-American sleeze like Kavanaugh is having a strong hatred of the US Constitution and the United States in general. Same thing for opposing the ACLU. I know plenty of conservatives who love America and civil liberties who support the ACLU, it is only a "left-right" issue to those who dispise freedom. 
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:06pm
Apparently I did a bad job writing this post. It wasn't meant to be an attack on rich people. It was meant to demonstrate that I couldn't give the benefit of the doubt to this Kavanaugh dildo. I also tried to illuminate the fact that many of the "pillars of the community" were pretty much a bunch of evil, rotten, scandalous little fucks when they were young, and had they not been privileged, they would have been locked up like the rest of us for doing the same things. Speaking of whom, after looking a little closer, Kavanaugh seems to be nothing more than a silver spoon-fed hack and a straight-up fucking rubber-stamp stooge.
 
Anyway, I'm sure there are good rich people out there, as many commenters have stated, however, I can only relate my own experiences with them, which obviously have not been very good. It would never occur to me to even post an attack on rich people, because anyone with a little more than a driver's license and a pulse would immediately see it for the jealousy-fueled and sour grape-slinging piece of shit that it would undoubtedly be. As far as rich people go, all I can say is that I'm glad it happens to someone. Bully for you, you cocksucking motherfuckers. Rich, middle class, poor, whatever; being the misanthrope that I am, I hate most of you equally, lol.
 
Lindsay Wheeler Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:14pm
Michael B, Judge Kavanaugh, please use his correct title when talking about him is NOT a sociopath. Him sacrificing his time to coach kid teams is not the behavior of a sociopath. I heard his testimony today by radio and he is NOT a sociopath. 
 
Here is a definition off of Wikipedia: "Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD or APD) is a personality disorder characterized by a long term pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. A low moral sense or conscience is often apparent, as well as a history of crime, legal problems, or impulsive and aggressive behavior.[3][4]
 
What that describes is you Michael B. Reading the ABA, the organization of lawyers that vetted Judge Kavanaugh, recommendation is of an honorable, sane, normal man with many accomplishments to his name. 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:16pm
You are indeed nothing if not a misanthrope. At least your are not a lascivious lecher like me! There's still hope for you. Me, bah! Too far gone.
 
If you were a woman you'd probably be a libidinous trollop
Cullen Kehoe Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:23pm
I've never rubbed shoulders with seriously upper crust people much. 
 
My wife worked in journalism in the Caribbean as a young woman and went to some formal parties attended by government types and rich white Americans who headed up international environmental agencies.
 
She said some of these guys who were in their 40's and 50's with families in Virginia or wherever they came from made serious passes on her, inviting her up to their room, the whole nine yards. (One guy kept emailing her in weeks and months afterward and saw her again the next year, same script all over again.) 
 
So these NGO types go for a banquet overseas to care 'for the environment' and all they really want is to get laid? Weird. 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:28pm
You didnt know they were hypocrites ? :)
Gerrilea Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:30pm
Michael B---  "Rich, middle class, poor, whatever; being the misanthrope that I am, I hate most of you equally, lol."
 
Now you went and did it, you crossed that line and FINALLY said something I can agree with....damn you!
 
But I still hate you anyways.
 
:)
 
James T--  ACLU spending money in a federal election for the first time in history to oppose one candidate.
 
ACLU Attack On Kobach Roils Kansas GOP Governor Primary
 
North Carolina Voters Dump Democratic Sheriff Who Back ICE deportation Program
 
"Advocates like the American Civil Liberties Union, which invested an unusually large amount of money in the race, hope to use it as a model as they look for ways to resist the Trump administration's immigration crackdown at all levels of government.
 
"We are absolutely seeking to put folks on notice," said Ronald Newman, the director of strategic initiatives for the civil liberties group."
 
I was, until your argument here, a card carrying member of the ACLU.  I didn't believe what was being said so I Googled it.
 
The ACLU was once a great defender of the Constitution, excepting of course, their false position on the 2nd A.  Everything else, the cases the brought to trial expanded our protected rights.
 
This is a line too far.
 
 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 8:44pm
Off topic, but mindful of the theme visually presented in your new and improved avatar, Michael...
 
Isnt CNN HQ still in Atlanta? What say we hook up at the mighty Mississippi and then go on to re-enact Sherman's March?
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:26pm
Gerrilea you can Google to find any result you are looking for. That's why Russia invaded Ukraine AND Russia never invaded Ukraine (you can search for both inquiries and find "proof" of both contrary ideas.
Here is another thought, instead of trying to prove that Medium (which is a social media outlet like Twitter or Facebook BTW) is liberal or the ACLU is liberal (or not) TRY READING THE ARTICLE. It goes into detail about specific cases where Kavanaugh acted against the US Constitution (and names the specific Amendments and why's and wherefores). The question should be about the truth not if something is liberal or conservative. This mindless "its fake news of its from the left/right" nonsense is something that I as a independent moderate centrist could never understand. Truth is truth. Fake news comes from both the left and the right (and the center, sources like CNN and the BBC for instance). Even if I play Devils advocate and say that the ACLU is liberal, doesn't mean that they are liars or that defending the Constitution is somehow wrong. The opposite, which is what Kavanaugh represents, IS wrong and unAmerican by the very definition of the term. 
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:48pm
@ Captain Gilbert - I would imagine that Aspen is Ground Zero for the people that smoke their coke rather than slam it, lol. You're such a deft fusion of authority and anti-authority!
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:48pm
@ George R. - For all we know, he raped a choirboy, lol.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:49pm
@ Leroy - You're a pretty cool dude, I'm glad you had, and continue to have, good experiences with your non-plebian pals, lol.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:49pm
@ TBH - I would expect nothing less from you, lol. I think that you are also a cool dude, so I'll spare you my usual sentence from those that dare dissent from me, lol. Otherwise...gang rapes for the lot of you! lol
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:50pm
@ Doug P. - Yes, they tend to be very clever and cunning at a minimum.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:50pm
@ John M. - As a member of the Officer class, you of course operated in that rarified atmosphere, lol.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:50pm
@ Lindsay W. - Uh-oh! Order in the court! To be perfectly honest, I would be charged with resisting arrest and contempt of court in addition to whatever else I allegedly (and most likely) did. However, Ken is right; I should be nicer. I stand corrected; from now on, I'll refer to him as JUDGE Fuckface, lol.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:51pm
@ TBH - "If you were a woman you'd probably be a libidinous trollop."
 
Hmmm, if I was a woman, I would probably be a militant lesbian librarian, lol.
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:51pm
@ Cullen - See what I mean? LOL
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:51pm
@ Gerrilea - LOOOOOL! Thank you dear! I'm always relieved to hear that I'm not about to get a bottle smashed over my head or in some kind of hot water for crossing a line, lol! And, it's OK to hate me...think of me as the J.R. Ewing of WB, lol! : )
Michael B. Added Sep 27, 2018 - 9:52pm
@ TBH - Funny, that reminds me of one of my buddies who got dumped by a chick named Georgia; of course, I had to rub it in by playing "Marching Through Georgia".
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:16pm
Like I said before, the ACLU doesn't back any specific candidates. I asked you to provide proof, you couldn't.
 
To reiterate, you lack reading comprehension as the links do provide proof, the chairman of the ACLU himself said they would be doing that.  Whether they have done that in the past or not is irrelevant, moving forward the top dog has said they are going to. How hard to comprehend is that?
 
The only reason for supporting an un-American sleeze like Kavanaugh is having a strong hatred of the US Constitution and the United States in general. Same thing for opposing the ACLU.
 
I don't agree with some of his decisions, and I have posted very early on how I thought he was the worst possible choice (however after watching today's hearings, I can see why he was picked, he did imensely well under incredible pressure defending himself).  RBG has not only a strong hatred of the US Constitution but has delivered multiple speeches about it around the world.  Please give proof on how Kavenaugh is un-american, a sleeze, or has a strong hatred of the Constitution.  You can't because he is non of the above.
 
Your vitriol is unfounded and more importantly - uninformed
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:28pm
I already gave that proof in the link. You are just too stupid and close-minded to read it. Dumbass. 
Ken Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:28pm
I'd love for the laws they write to be clear and constitutional. If it means Roe v Wade, etc are overturned, sobeit. 
Gerri - I am grouping these together although they should be responded to separately on their own merits, but I didn't want to spam responses
 
I loved those candidates that said there should be no law passed that is more than 10 pages (or 20 pages or some arbitrary low number)
 
Passing a law that is 2000 pages long and virtually no one has read totally is obscene.  That is how the bureaucracy works.  Put enough together write a massive law and no one notices the little pieces slid in that keep taking away liberty and sending power to DC.
 
As far as Roe v. Wade - it should never have passed the supreme court anyway.  Under Nixon, we had one of the most liberal activist supreme courts since FDR.  There was no basis in law or the constitution for their decision and some of them, like Blackman later admitted that.
 
Even if RvW goes away, that doesn't outlaw abortion. That is the leftist lie that many don't get.  It simply means that the states have the right to choose whether abortion will be legal in their states or not.  Many will, many will not.  Worst case for someone wanting an abortion- she won't walk a block in her minority community to a planned parenthood murder center, she may have to be driven to another state.
 
All of this would be predicated on a case coming before the court that would even be arguing against RvW.  They don't just change laws, they have to have an appropriate case to adjudicate that might overturn that decision.
 
The left just continues to lie and lie and lie to keep pushing their progressive/marxist agenda and overturn our liberty.
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:32pm
"The left just continues to lie and lie and lie to keep pushing their progressive/marxist agenda and overturn our liberty."
Of course centrists, and even people and institutions on the right are "the left", "progressives", and "Marxists" (!) to Kenny the alt right hyper extremist who hates the Constitution. Kinda rendering everything he says as moot. 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:37pm
Travil - I had begun to amend my opinion of you following our initial encounter. I think I'll revert to my original impression. Are you actually taking the position that the ACLU has not gone all in for the left? And CNN is in the "middle" of the spectrum? I respect a man's poisons, but damn! You gotta be smokin' crack!
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:43pm
Like I said before CNN lies, and as such has no credability, but yes they present a middle of the road view. As for the ACLU I have yet to see how defending the Constitution is "gone all in for the left" unless you are claiming that the right has abandoned the US Constitution (something that the nomination of Kavanaugh is beginning to convince me of...)
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:47pm
   So lying is middle of the road? Never mind, think what you like. I don't see it
James Travil Added Sep 27, 2018 - 11:54pm
Lying is everywhere TBH. Men lie, women lie, the left lies, the right lies, the middle lies. Everyone lies. You don't seriously want to claim that the right doesn't lie (talk about smoking crack), do you? 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:04am
I make no such claim and don't try putting words in my mouth. I can speak well enough on my own, thank you. I can disagree and if I choose offer no explanation at all. I just disagree with your assessment. I am not an apologist for the right; I have ample issues with them too. I can still call the dems for their rampant hypocrisy without drinking anyone else's Koolaid
Ken Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:05am
ike I said before CNN lies, and as such has no credability, but yes they present a middle of the road view. As for the ACLU I have yet to see how defending the Constitution is "gone all in for the left" unless you are claiming that the right has abandoned the US Constitution (something that the nomination of Kavanaugh is beginning to convince me of...)
 
Congrats!  the most uninformed and stupid comment of the day.  If CNN lies and has no credibility how can you justify they have a "middle of the road" view?  If they lie and have no credibility, who knows where they stand?  Actually they have moved as far left as MSNBC and that is a strategic decision to be a mouthpiece for the democrat party even though it loses most of their viewers.  Apparently they prefer to not care about ratings to become the leftist mouthpiece and compete against MSNBC.
 
The ACLU is not defending the constitution unless it is a complaint from a leftist position.  Clearly you haven't read my links, I can dump even more on you, that all prove exactly that.  You deny the Chairman of the ACLU own words and try and represent the ACLU as non partisan which is entirely false and proven so.
 
Even more absurd is your final point that the right has abandoned the constitution, when all the right is doing is trying to defend it.  Trying to keep it relevant.  Claiming that the left is doing anything constitutional and anything other than a "living and breathing" constitution that changes as their mood changes is absurd.
 
You are not dealing in any kind of facts at all, you are clearly not reading any of my links, and you are arguing on a completely false premise with absolutely no evidence to back your position up.
 
Typical leftist like Mischka,Michael B,  etc. you will never be convinced because you are indoctrinated ideologues, not realizing how poor your ideology is
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:09am
Oh gawd! One of the most horrible and sickening lines from one of the most horrible and sickening actresses from one of the most horrible and sickening movies in human history; 1988's Beaches:
 
"I'm a lawyer with the ACLU."
 
LOL
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:09am
Ken I'm trying to help ya out dude. I assure you Michael B is No leftist
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:10am
He's just rude, crass, vulgar, obscene, uncouth.....mmm... I know I'm missin' some. Help me out here Michael!
James Travil Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:11am
"Congrats! the most uninformed and stupid comment of the day. If CNN lies and has no credibility how can you justify they have a "middle of the road" view?  "
No you just trumped me in stupid by claiming that only the left lies. Congrats on proving to everyone what an alt right extremist nutjob you are. And of course I'm a "leftist" in your hyper right fascist book, which is utterly meaningless. Just like you Kenny. Michael got you right on the first go. 
Ken Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:18am
TBH - dunno what he is or not, I do know how rude his response to me was yesterday, completely making me take whatever he says as a joke (not funny, just can't take it seriously) with his comment to me.
 
JT - I never said that only the left lies.  It is IMPOSSIBLE for me to be a fascist, as I believe in individual liberty.  That is the opposite end of the scale.
 
Can you even define the alt-right extremist nutjob?  Please, give it a try.  I doubt you can define me in that basket at all.  But hey! keep throwing out labels.  Try using critical thinking, if you are able and see how STUPID your comment was.
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:28am
WHAT THE FUUUUUCK???? I'm a leftist? HAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!! Ken, I believe it is YOU who needs to beat a hasty retreat from the crack pipe!
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:30am
@ TBH - BTW, that was such a complimentary assessment of my character, or lack thereof, lol! How can I possibly repay you!
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:35am
You're okay, I don't care what they say about ya. You remind me of that line from The Christmas Story ( the one with Ralphie )....cant remember it exactly, but something to the effect that his father "worked profanity the way other artists might use oil and canvas"
 
 
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:45am
@ TBH - Danke schoen! My vulgarian credentials were validated by a Russian scientist who said, "I thought that the Russian language was the richest in profanities and vulgarities, but after being around you, I've decided it is English." It was like Gary Kasparov saying I was a better chess player, or Boris Yeltsin saying I could drink him under the table...is there any higher praise possible? LOL
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 12:54am
I think not!  High praise indeed!
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 1:36am
Wow! Usually, the lefties are the ones that fuck with me and delete my comments, but now the righties are doing the same thing! AWESOME!!!!! It means I'm doing something good after all, lol!
Gerrilea Added Sep 28, 2018 - 3:49am
James T-- I support the constitution, as intended and written.  It is anything but perfect, that's why we put in Article V, to amend it when necessary.  Let me clarify my critique of the ACLU's new position to support and fund candidates "they" believe will follow said piece of paper.
 
First off, I don't care what letter is before your name or what stripe you wear on your clothing, it's meaningless.  If you want to become a public servant you must follow the rule-book we gave you. 
 
That decision, We The People make when we vote, whether or not my fellow Americans agree with me MUST be based on the candidate's own words, actions and positions.
 
The ACLU has played a pivotal NEUTRAL role in the evolution of constitutional law.  The law is the law, or so I was brainwashed into believing. It wasn't until years after my collegiate education that I found out they lied and misrepresented the facts on the meaning AND intent of the 2nd Amendment.  Yet I still trusted many of their positions on the 1st Amendment and others.
 
As I've grown older, my evaluation & understanding of "the law" is that it is ALWAYS political, not neutral as the Founders intended, in this nation today. With their move to become partisan they undermine their credibility and are now squarely part of the problem, not the solution.
 
They will no longer support "the law" or it's interpretation as neutral arbiters but as political hacks to whomever paid them the most. I paid dues to them to fight for individual rights and government accountability.  Now they're using my dues to elect whomever "they" decide is the best.
 
No hon, that's my choice and I've never told anyone whom they should vote for.  In fact, all I've ever done was give my friends and family "pocket" constitutions and asked them to read it and then decide which candidate they BELIEVED will follow that rule-book the most.
 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 6:55am
Michael - without naming names ( i expect after this comment they'll come flocking), there are certain members here who are not "real". I'm not talking about Dino the Bot. There seem to be a few who are what I think are like a DH in the AL of MLB.....designated shit disturbers.  I usually ignore, sometimes play ball with them inasmuch as one can.  I'm thinking of a uniform response...thought you would be a good person to bounce this off of. How 'bout this?
 
May the uncurable  STD of a thousand Pakistani whores infect your urethra
 
Huh? maybe need to work on it more? Wait....I'll bet you have some!
Jeffry Gilbert Added Sep 28, 2018 - 8:38am
May the uncurable STD of a thousand Pakistani whores infect your urethra
 
That stinks worse than an anchovy's cunt. 
 
Michael B. Added Sep 28, 2018 - 8:48am
"May the uncurable  STD of a thousand Pakistani whores infect your urethra"
 
Good one, but I'd probably borrow something from Tuco: "You're the son/daughter of a thousand STD-infected Pakistani fathers, and every one of them a grimy, scummy, scabby-assed, ass-fucked cocksucker JUST LIKE YOU!"
 
Lately I've found "Your mother/wife/daughter/ sucks the sperm from a dead donkey's balls" to be pretty effective, with "Suck the shit out of a dead donkey's ass" a close runner-up, lol. The main thing is, regardless of their gender, to stick to attacking the women in their lives, or lack thereof. That is almost guaranteed to piss them off. LOL
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 8:53am
It doesnt require much: these people are usually already pissed off. It is their state of being
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 28, 2018 - 8:55am
Captain - an anchovies cunt....hmm. Not so bad as a dead anchovie's cunt. I'll keep working on it :)
Ken Added Sep 28, 2018 - 1:44pm
May the uncurable  STD of a thousand Pakistani whores infect your urethra
 
Aren't those the promised virgins the martyrs get?
Gerrilea Added Sep 28, 2018 - 4:08pm
Ken--- ???
 
How can one be a whore and yet a virgin as well?
 
:)
 
Wait, it's "heaven", so anything's possible...maybe.
 
 
Ken Added Sep 28, 2018 - 8:04pm
That's the craziness of Sharia law gerri!
Michael B. Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:01am
@ TBH - This is a line from my main malodorous mentor...the late El Duce of The Mentors, taken from a 1992 interview with the infamous underground magazine Answer Me!:
 
El Duce, who is said to improvise his song lyrics, responds to my challenge to say the most offensive thing possible:
 
"Suck the shit from my ass. Gargle my balls. Polish my German helmet on the end of my looove stick while you're smelling my armpits."
 
Things have gone such a loooong way since then, huh? 100 years from now, El Duce will be a Disney character, or maybe a  Supreme Court Justice, lol.
 
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:05am
Do you think it will take 100?
Michael B. Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:11am
@ TBH - I was just looking at the infamous "Disneyland Memorial Orgy" poster from 1967 and thought, "Hmmm...maybe not 100." lol
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:21am
Hmm...perhaps a new genre. Muppet porn? Nah! Robot Chicken has already done that. Maybe tele-tubbies......no, dammit! Thats been done: gay porn. Hmm.....need to think on this one
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:26am
Been driving a while today and this evening. Had to re-up the Jamesons. No officer bettledick today :) Matthau ripped a fucking hole in the back of the passenger seat! A little haggard tonight
Michael B. Added Sep 29, 2018 - 1:36am
Aye, ye scurvy dog!
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 29, 2018 - 2:16am
He is mostly sedentary, but when he has his moments.....like a bull that thinks he's a puppy
The Burghal Hidage Added Sep 29, 2018 - 2:21am
Sleep and conversation both elude me, friend. Ich werde jetzt screiben :) Bis Morgen.....
Michael B. Added Sep 29, 2018 - 2:41am
Schlaf gut, mein schatzchen! Bis morgen, oder im naehe zuekufnt!
Doug Plumb Added Sep 29, 2018 - 7:16am
Gerrilea re "As I've grown older, my evaluation & understanding of "the law" is that it is ALWAYS political, not neutral as the Founders intended, in this nation today. With their move to become partisan they undermine their credibility and are now squarely part of the problem, not the solution.
 
They will no longer support "the law" or it's interpretation as neutral arbiters but as political hacks to whomever paid them the most. I paid dues to them to fight for individual rights and government accountability.  Now they're using my dues to elect whomever "they" decide is the best."
 
There is nothing subjective about the law, but the law is interpreted through statutes to meet the empirical needs. It is this interpretation that is the problem. Statutory law has a Talmudic personality, most practitioners are Jewish, over 80% of attorneys are Jewish in Canada. Attorney and Lawyer do not mean the same thing. Attorneys deal in statutes. Lawyers are well acquainted with law, attorneys, not so much. They operate under the Administrative Procedures Act, which makes assumptions based on a debt that does not exist in reality, but in fiction. Attorneys deal in the fiction, "Legal Fiction", as is known. This legal fiction is getting more and more lawless.
Doug Plumb Added Sep 29, 2018 - 7:18am
re "Can you even define the alt-right extremist nutjob?" Its funny when people think of the alt-Right as NAZI's. They are NOT Zionists.