Okay, You May Put Your Tinfoil Kippa on, But Wear A Cap Over It!

The media is flooded with the story of the arrest of seven men who were supposedly plotting a terror attack on the 3rd of October, which is the holiday to celebrate the reunification of the country after the Cold War. If possible, I would just run with it as it is and compare it to the prevalence of violence in other groups or think about ways to bring the crazies that do exist on the conservative side of the political spectrum under control. But I just .... can't.

 

This is too much BS. I have gone through this before. It was the Franco A story. They throw out something that is highly emotional and preposterous, and they keep spinning it into ever more ridiculous claims. In the end you cannot make any sense of it no matter how hard you try, and I do try. The more absurd their stories are, the more they point their finger on "conspiracy theorists". Well, I hate conspiracy theories, but can I, please, PLEASE, be told lies that are somehow plausible.

 

The current status of the new story is that seven men planned the mentioned attack. It was supposed to kill at the same time political and cultural leaders, and foreigners. The media reports are unclear. Maybe, the mentioned attack was meant to kill only the VIPs and some other potential attacks were targeted at foreigners. I can get my head around this so far.

 

But then the media phrases it like it is an attack on people who think differently. Every terror attack is. The point of a terror attack is not that people think differently, but that some different behavior is wanted from them. What they think is irrelevant. Yet, they phrase it to say, "See, right-wingers are the ones who don't tolerate other point of views." And this is clearly not the case. Then WELT claims that the aim of the attack were to remove the judicial system (Rechtsstaat).

 

This is where I lose my sh*t. So far we have been told that immigrants and policy makers/propagandists of immigration were the targets, not judges, not court buildings, not police stations. It would also take a lot of bombing to bring down the legal system. Are these seven men stupid enough to think that they can do this all by themselves? Although, the state prosecutor says that the attack is planned for the day after tomorrow, they have found NO WEAPONS! (I leave the sticks and stones nonsense aside.)

 

It reminds me how the Franco A case disintegrated very quickly. Okay, WHAT is now your story? What writings have been found about the motivations? Are the suspects against immigration or do they want to abolish the legal system? WHAT?

 

Like the Franco A case, I am getting a bit suspicious. As you can read here, the planned terror attack unravelled into an incohesive narrative with absurd twists and turns that just very conveniently ticked all the left-wing talking points. It made no sense, but it became some buzz about something evil in the military with Nazis and poor activists as potential victims, a coup d'etat with a vintage Wehrmacht pistol, while false flagging Muslims at the same time ....

 

This one starts with "right-wing leaders from Chemnitz" and will most certainly run its full course of madness again. In a second WELT article they are already alleging a coup d'etat. At this point it is impossible not to believe in some conspiracy theories. And this is what they want. They want to drive us apart by seeing more and more of us become speculative. We must not give in. At this point, we just say that MAYBE Chemnitz is the gate of hell and coincidentally a terror group confirms all the fears of the left. MAYBE, they try to end the justice system by killing singers. Maybe, they are just complete morons. Maybe. Please, just don't come up with too much speculation! It will be exploited.

 

This follows a week in which ZEIT and Tagesspiegel (both of publisher Holzbrinck) ran stories on how right-wing violent crimes were supposedly undercounted by the police. They just reassign random murders. One prominent case that they included is the terror attack by a former Muslim of Iranian descent who was bullied in school for having left Islam. The left makes it out to be that the bullying Muslims are innocent and right-wing propaganda had let the men to shoot up Munich in 2016. It is impossible to go through their low-profile cases, but I bet that they are equally dishonest about them. They just claim that everybody who disagrees with them is a physical threat and must be attacked, sometimes also physically.

 

There was not one conviction that came out of the Franco A story. Yet, we are told again not to "play it down." WELT quotes communist MP Kerstin Köditz with:

The fact that the new cell was created in Chemnitz also shows the extent to which the racist radicalization took place in this place - and that the danger of neo-nazi violence is highly present.

The woman's position is anti-fascism speaker of her party. Her party, LINKE, ran the dictatorship in East Germany and build the wall in Berlin, which was called the "anti-fascist protection wall" at the time. LINKE was previously named SED, the acronym for Socialist Union Party of Germany.

Comments

Dino Manalis Added Oct 1, 2018 - 2:28pm
 We need better policies, not terrorism, to improve conditions.  All terrorism must be prevented from the Right and Left!
Neil Lock Added Oct 1, 2018 - 3:26pm
Benjamin: I don't know the circumstances of the "Franco A" case, but I think I understand what you're saying. The media, the lapdogs of the political class, are trying to sow dissensions between people of "left" and "right." But to do that, they need to take their narrative further and further away from reality.
 
Is there a difference between political left and right? I used to think, no. But more recently, I've formulated the idea that the left want to stomp on people, but the right want to farm people. Be that as it may, both of them have hatred and contempt for us human beings.
Flying Junior Added Oct 1, 2018 - 3:44pm
Benjamin,
 
Once again you have alerted me to important news happening in Germany.  For this I thank you.  I can’t help but be curious why you doubt the detective work of the German Police.  You tell us that the media is flooded, so you must have read reports similar to these two accounts by Reuters and the Associated Press.  Do you deny that the police had evidence that the five men arrested took part in the anti-immigration protest in Chemnitz?  Do you refute that they are alleged to have used saps, (steel knuckle gloves,) bottles and tasers?  If their communications revealed that they were actively seeking to purchase guns, do you have reason to doubt the veracity of the police reports?  I would say that you should thank the Goddess that Germany has strict gun control.
 
Germany Arrests 7 Suspected Far-right Extremists in Chemnitz
 
https://apnews.com/77b83be27c0046c9ba899ee8702a45bd
 
Five of the men — Christian K. and four others identified only as Sten E., Martin H., Marcel W. and Sven W. — allegedly attacked several foreigners in the center of Chemnitz on Sept. 14, armed with bottles, weighted “sap” gloves and an electric stun device. Prosecutors said the attack was a “test run” for another attack the men planned for Oct. 3, Germany’s national unity day.
 
A spokeswoman for federal prosecutors, Frauke Koehler, said authorities were investigating whether the men were involved in anti-foreigner violence that erupted in Chemnitz after the killing of a German man in August. A 23-year-old Syrian is being held on suspicion of manslaughter and an Iraqi man is still being sought by police in that case.
 
A kosher restaurant was also attacked on the sidelines of one protest, with masked men throwing stones and bottles and yelling “Jewish pig, get out of Germany.”
 
Germany Uncovers Terrorist Group Which Attacked Foreigners in Chemnitz
 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-farright-crime/germany-uncovers-terrorist-group-which-attacked-foreigners-in-chemnitz-idUSKCN1MB26Z
 
GBA spokeswoman Frauke Koehler told reporters that the authorities had intercepted communications which showed that the suspects were plotting attacks against political opponents as well as foreigners.
 
Five of the suspects had attacked and injured foreigners in Chemnitz on Sept. 14 using glass bottles, steel knuckle gloves and tasers, the GBA statement said. The group had planned to carry out another attack on Oct. 3, the national holiday that marks the reunification of East and West Germany in 1991.
 
So even though the protestors in Chemnitz attacked a Kosher Restaurant, yelling, “Jewish pigs get out of Germany,” you see no cause for alarm?
 
I can’t help but think of the widespread coddling and minimizing of the American Tiki Torch Nazi March in Charlottesville a year ago August.  Am I to understand that you have sympathy for the extreme right xenophobes and anti-Semites in Germany?  Or is this all just over-reaction by a politically correct establishment?
Doug Plumb Added Oct 1, 2018 - 3:52pm
re "I would say that you should thank the Goddess that Germany has strict gun control."
 
For scary things said on WB, this one takes the cake. What do you think of that Benjamin?
 
Conspiracy theorists try to explain events in terms of an alternative explanation, such as conspiracy theories about 9-11. I've never been much of a conspiracy theorist, I'm only pointing out what is BS, that the official version of 9-11 CANNOT be true. Although I'm not one to try and develop or examine alternative theories, I get labeled a conspiracy theorist.
Flying Junior Added Oct 1, 2018 - 4:01pm
Douggie!
Benjamin Goldstein Added Oct 1, 2018 - 4:28pm
Neil Lock: TBH I see the left as a very specific cult at this point and the right is just everybody who says 'no' occasionally. I know that things were different five years ago, but the left would never see 'libertarian' as some sort of third way. You are either with them or against them. It's black or white with most of these people now.
 
FJ:
Do you deny that the police had evidence that the five men arrested took part in the anti-immigration protest in Chemnitz?
No. Is irrelevant for me.
 
Do you refute that they are alleged to have used saps, (steel knuckle gloves,) bottles and tasers?
Absolutely. If they had, the media would have run the pictures of the injured.
 
If their communications revealed that they were actively seeking to purchase guns, do you have reason to doubt the veracity of the police reports?
Yes, see above. I'm pro-gun. This bit can be true and I don't mind.
 
I would say that you should thank the Goddess...
I always thank Ann Coulter.
 
So even though the protestors in Chemnitz attacked a Kosher Restaurant, yelling, “Jewish pigs get out of Germany,” you see no cause for alarm?
No suspects have been found. Whether this is related to the protests or the work of antifa or some Muslims is not resolved, yet.
 
Am I to understand that you have sympathy for the extreme right xenophobes and anti-Semites in Germany?
I'm Jewish.
 
Or is this all just over-reaction by a politically correct establishment?
I think it has to do with the Erdogan visit. He abolished democracy in the wake of a coup d'etat and Merkel needs to fake some (it is the second one after the Franco A thing) to follow his path.
 
Doug: 9/11 is so long ago that I won't look into the details. I guess that there was some nonsense reported in the mainstream media, but I am also sure that most people who came up with their alternatives had it just as wrong.
 
Ward Tipton Added Oct 1, 2018 - 10:39pm
I dunno ... I kinda like the FBI tactic here ... find some mentally incapable person with questionable and flexible beliefs ... steer them in the right direction, offer them some non-functional devices to carry out the nefarious FBI hatched plot and voila! The Fibbies have miraculously stopped nineteen (IIRC) "terrorist attacks" that they themselves have planned and set in motion! 
 
Damn, it just makes me feel so safe and warm and cuddly! 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Oct 2, 2018 - 3:50pm
Ward Tipton: This is also a massive problem in Germany. The intelligence agency infiltrate too much and their moles sometimes commit crimes. It is often hard to say whether they do it to keep their cover or whether they are double agents. We had government agents helping ISIS. We had agents helping the neonazi party NPD. It is not even clear if the party was neonazi because so many of those that were thought to have been leaders turned out to be secret agents. It was revealed during a court case against the party.
 
The power of intelligence agencies like the FBI or the German Verfassungsschutz must be restricted to unveiling foreign agents. The rest must be done transparently with ordinary police procedures.
FacePalm Added Oct 3, 2018 - 10:36am
It is my understanding that much of the German media was infiltrated, long ago, by US CIA people; the story you've related certainly smacks of an intelligence psy-op, to me...or, as Ward points out, a possible FBI-type false-flag.
 
This is why governments love "terrorism" so much: those in fear are far more obedient than those who are fearless, so it behooves those who wish to remain in power to keep their constituents afraid, because then they'll want a "leader" to make them feel better.  Even ancient Greeks noted this:
 
"When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies by conquest or treaty, and there is nothing more to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other, in order that the people may require a leader."
-- Plato(429-347 BC)
Source: The Republic
 
What is a "terrorist attack" but a tactic of war, anyway?
 
 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Oct 3, 2018 - 1:01pm
FacePalm. They are actual stasi people, not CIA.
Flying Junior Added Oct 3, 2018 - 11:40pm
So the German media was infiltrated by Stasi?  This bears some research.
Flying Junior Added Oct 3, 2018 - 11:47pm
I guess you must have been referring to Stasi spies that infiltrated West German media during the 1980s.
Flying Junior Added Oct 3, 2018 - 11:53pm
My source for my irrational left-wing dismissal of your assertion is an article by the oft-maligned, venerable Deutsche Welle.
 
https://www.dw.com/en/german-media-cleans-stasi-out-of-its-closet/a-1272098
Ward Tipton Added Oct 4, 2018 - 12:27am
Benjamin Goldstein - 
"It is not even clear if the party was neonazi because so many of those that were thought to have been leaders turned out to be secret agents. It was revealed during a court case against the party."
 
I remember reading in the US many years back where the FBI conducted a study determined to figure out whether more of the White Nationalist Movement were actual threats or FBI informants. It was feared that their were more informants than actual members. 
 
That was either back in the early nineties or maybe the late eighties, but the report quickly disappeared from public view and I have not been able to find any confirmation of it since reading the original accounts. 
 
A large number of the expatriates living here are Former Intel people including a couple of members of the STASI that I knew personally. We had some very interesting conversations. 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:05pm
FJ: I mean the infiltration after the fall of the wall. The stasi was about 3% of the population, the largest security apparatus in the world, and they did not give up their ambitions only because the Soviets went down.
Look at Mybritt Illner, Karola Wille, Anetta Kahane and so on.
 
Ward Tipton:
Germany does not respect the human rights to freedom of association. So the government tried to simply forbid the neonazi party. Every single allegation went down because the main responsible people were all from Verfassungsschutz. The party, NPD, is so small that nobody took them seriously anyway. That was one expensive idiocy.
Ward Tipton Added Oct 5, 2018 - 12:08am
Wasn't Merkel at one time associated with the Stasi? Or was that another? Or perhaps merely an internet meme? I cannot remember where I read it, but I do seem to recall pictures of her as a good little uniformed communist ... just something I noted in passing however, and I do not remember the details. 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Oct 5, 2018 - 3:40pm
Ward Tipton: There is no conclusive evidence for it, but I think that it is likely. The stasi agents had pseudonyms. It is sometimes thought that she might have been IM Erika. She most certainly grew up in a family that was quite privileged in the regime. Her rise was so fast that it is impossible not to have old contacts helping her. One politician who lifted her in a high position in the turmulous months between the fall of the wall and the end of the regime, denied that he ever heard of her before. He was a close friend of his father. She might not have been an official stasi member, but she clearly had her ties to the top. And probably was a member. Face it.

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