The Modern Democratic Party’s Roots or Is Supervisor’s Tape the Only Thing That’s Double sided?

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Ask African-Americans which party is their biggest ally: until Kanye West came along they would say: the Democratic Party. Ask African American organization (Black Lives Matter) which party is their biggest detractor: Unabashedly they’ll tell you :It’s those Racist Republicans, without hesitation.

 

Yet hidden truths lurk in the closet. Truth’s that no modern liberal likes to admit.

 

The Democratic Party was created in the late 1820’s. The party’s beginnings; the Democrats supported slavery, segregation, and after the civil war the formation of the KKK.  Hundreds of African-Americans were lynched by democrats and their supporters. After Republican Abraham Lincoln emancipated African-Americans in the Civil War, policies were put in place in the South: the Democratic Party opposed reconstruction.

 

 From 1865 until 1935 there were hundreds of African Americans were elected to state legislatures, for a fact: 22 African Americans served in Congress by 1900. Can you guess which party they represented: if you guessed Democrat you’d be dead wrong: Democrats failed to elect a single African American until 1935.

 

In the 1918 Woodrow Wilson (D) was elected president. a Progressive Democrat. He had many accomplishments: the formation of the FTC, child labor laws, the 8 hour work day, and he guided the US through WW1 successfully. Unfortunately Wilson shared the KKK’s beliefs. He was an avowed racist whose worst accomplishment was to screen: “The Birth of a Nation’ – the first movie shown in the White House. Its original title: “The Clansmen”.  Racism was rampant in the Wilson Administration; but you won’t get that in the History Channel summation of him.

 

In 1954 there was a pivotal Supreme Court Decision: “Brown Vs Board of Education”. Who was the governor that defied the Supreme Court decision? What political party was he affiliated with? Gov. Orval Farbus (D). Would it surprise you to know that Dwight Eisenhower (R) sent in Federal troops to enforce that decision? Eisenhower also desegregated the military in WW2.

 

The Birmingham riots of 1963 were provoked by bombings in May 1963. The bombings targeted black leaders of the Birmingham campaign, among them was the Rev. A. D. King (brother of Martin Luther King, Jr.) These bombings were the work of the Ku Klux Klan, in cooperation with Birmingham police.

 

In response, local African-Americans burned businesses and fought police throughout the downtown area. The United States government intervened with federal troops in a domestic military deployment enforcing a court injunction, an action which was considered controversial by Governor George Wallace. Gov.Wallace was elected Governor three times as a Democrat and ran once as an Independent.

 

However, these riots and the effects on the African-Americans community were a key event contributing to President Kennedy's decision to propose a civil rights reform. However a good student of history would realize that this bill is based largely on an earlier Cilil Rights Bill's proposals put forward by Republican's and Dwight Eisenhower in his administration.  

 

But!  lets give Democrats credit - for the first time since the party was created, the Democrats had managed to get on the correct side of the issue. Then again with Gov.Wallace they were actually on both sides.

 

Ultimately these rights were passed under President Lyndon B. Johnson: the Civil Rights Act of 1964. However if you look carefully Sen. Richard Byrd (KKK member) filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act with the help of Southern democrats.  With that Democrats found them-selves right back under that bus called Racism. Fortunately the Republicans broke the filibuster after 75 days, and the Bill was passed and sent to President Kennedy’s desk to be signed.

 

The case of Barry Goldwater and his (principled) lack of support for the Civil Rights Bill is pointed at as the start of the Republican Party moving into racism by member of the CNN community Roland Martin. However nothing is further from the truth. There has never been a plank or position in a presidential campaign where the Republican supported any type of racism.

 

As a principled fiscal conservative I grow weary of online bombastic commenters. There seems to be a huge liberal population slice that have forgotten their manners and have lost their senses in Trump Derangement Syndrome. I’ve grown convinced that Trump plays them with his tweets, driving them a little bonkers – so that rather than discuss things reasonably and dispassionately; they react strictly out of emotional outbursts. The current atmosphere is a great example; fortunately the last 32 years of democratic misbehavior will make a set of great articles.

 

In closing Kanye West represents a watershed moment in history – how odd if should come from a hip-hop artist – the artistic community, as they are typically liberal. His support of Trump could break the lock that Democrats have had on the African-American voter; as polls have indicated a shift from 8 to 9% Republican support among African-Americans to 22 to 23% when his support came out. Those numbers should chill every liberal, and prompt them to discuss issues.  Fortunately for the GOP they don’t.

 

And with that I’ll pass this forward for comments.  Thanks to Autumn Cote, who saw me responding at Disqus, in the midst of a lot of heated comments – sharing my feeling on race as a conservative and through her I found out about this site.

Comments

Ken Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:13pm
Eisenhower also desegregated the military in WW2.
 
It wouldn't have needed to be desegregated in WW2 if it weren't segregated by Wilson.  Race was irrelevant in the military prior to Wilson.  Wilson didn't "navigate us through WW1" - he campaigned (and won) specifically on isolationism and not getting into WW1, and just after the election he had congress declare war.
 
LBJ voted against all civil rights laws as a senator.  The civil rights laws of the 60's were voted yes on by a majority of republicans and a minority of democrats.  When LBJ signed it into law he infamously stated on AF1 " I sign this, those n***** will vote democrat for the next 50 years".
 
Kennedy was dead in 1964, He was assassinated in November 1963
Ken Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:16pm
Good summation in general of the racism of the democrat party, however
Dura_Ace Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:30pm
Correct in both statements, I didn't add them in the interests of a shorter first article. I felt that its necessary to remind liberals that the GOP is not the evil twin of the Democratic Party...facts are if anything the Democrats have issues they don't like to talk about. It seems that today they'll tell everyone in earshot just how racist those pesky Republican's are.
Dura_Ace Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:34pm
Weird fact: I was the supervisor of the gentleman that took Eddie Hoffman (of the JFK Assassination Forum fame) to the House Select Committee when they investigated what he saw. Eddie was the one guy- a deaf-mute who saw the reverse side of Dealy Plaza; and two guys with a rifle in 1964 after Pres Kennedy was killed. The infamous second shooter...I knew Eddie personally when he worked at Texas Instruments in '76/'77 .
Dura_Ace Added Oct 4, 2018 - 4:35pm
well no edit..of course Kennedy bought the farm in '63.
Ken Added Oct 4, 2018 - 5:38pm
Perhaps a shorter article, but Woodrow Wilson should be vilified as one of the worst presidents in American History.  (Not to mention his wife served as president for most of his 2nd term because he was basically comatose).  He destroyed the education system to make it what it is today. He gave us the federal income tax.  He took the election of senators away from the state legislatures.  He set the whole foundation for a federal bureaucracy expanded by FDR
James Travil Added Oct 4, 2018 - 11:02pm
Welcome to the club, or whatever it is Dura_Ace. You will find many like minded people here, a number of liberals, and a few, like myself, who take the middle of the road view. Personally, regarding the topic at hand, I can't stand Democrats or Republicans. Their individual origins make an interesting historical study, but regardless the reality of them both today is personal greed wins out. Self interest to the extreme, plus service to Wall Street and the like trump service to the common man and society at large. We need, not one, but two new parties to replace them both IMO. 
Ken Added Oct 4, 2018 - 11:12pm
LOL Satanism is a middle of the road view?  I don't know if you are or not, but when people have brought that up, you have never refuted it...
James Travil Added Oct 4, 2018 - 11:36pm
Satanism is my religion, we as a Church do not take any political position (www.churchofsatan.com). We have liberals, conservatives, and moderates like myself, we don't discriminate based on political parties or views. And why would I refute my religion Ken? I wrote two articles here about it so far, I'm proud of my beliefs. Are you ashamed of yours? 
Ken Added Oct 4, 2018 - 11:54pm
And why would I refute my religion Ken? I wrote two articles here about it so far, I'm proud of my beliefs. Are you ashamed of yours? 
 
You misunderstand.  I haven't seen the articles you wrote on it, they were before my time, I will have to go look them up.  It could simply be that as people brought it up you chose not to respond to their insults, which is why I said I don't know if you are or not.  I didn't want to accuse you of something you may not be, especially when it was people like Ryan and his ilk that kept bringing it up.
 
I will be fascinated by your articles because I find it as hard to believe that a satanism view is any more middle of the road than an atheist view
Flying Junior Added Oct 5, 2018 - 3:27am
Welcome to the WB Ace.  I eagerly anticipate future contributions.
 
I hate to break it to you, but from my knowledge of black people in the U.S., Kanye West is pretty much out there on his own.  Even Steve Harvey regrets making nice with the monster.  Black people hate the demon Trump ten-to-one.  Stick around we can test your theory in 2020 if your boy stays healthy enough to be president.  Despite some tepidity in their attitude towards Hillary Clinton, the black vote is the most solidly and reliably democratic going today.  Still, 88% of black voters supported HIllary in 2016, as did I.
 
It is a fascinating subject to discuss how black people switched to the democratic party.  Going back to the 1940s, there were the Dixiecrats, of course.  But most democrats even in Texas and Oklahoma self-identified as Roosevelt democrats.  I don't think it makes a helluva lot of sense to bring up personalities such as Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd.  (You are not the first to bring up Byrd.  Another Writer Beater tried to use his reputation to defame HRC.)  These men clearly had strong views on the relations between the races.  And these views would be considered highly racist by today's standards.
 
I like what you said about Eisenhower.  Nixon was actually the man who met with Dr. King.  However, I don't think it says that much about the republican party of the 1950s as it does about the character of General Eisenhower.  I guess it was the magic of JFK himself that brought black people into the fold.  And I will say this.  The transition between Eisenhower and Kennedy was by far the smoothest transition in the history of presidential politics.  The two men respected each other and shared many goals.  By the time it was an apparent choice between Robert F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon, most black Americans had already switched party loyalties.
 
Certainly by the time Clinton challenged Bush 41, the landscape had changed probably for all time.  Black voters supported Clinton 83%.  10% voted for Bush.  7% voted for Perot.  Black voters are not stupid and they are very well organized.
 
They have been voting solidly better than 80% Democratic ever since.  That's not going to change any time soon.
Flying Junior Added Oct 5, 2018 - 4:03am
Holy Cow!
 
Is this what you were talking about with Kanye West?
 
https://www.mediaite.com/online/kanye-west-reaches-out-to-kaepernick-to-have-a-dialogue-with-trump-tell-him-your-experience/
 
My black friends think that Kanye has gone completely off of his nut.  Who could blame them?  Kaepernick could not have a more sworn enemy than the virulently racist Donald Trump.  Trump savors his victory in convincing otherwise sane and rational supporters that this was all about the flag, the military and patriotism.
 
No.  No fucking way in hell.  It would be interesting if West could set it up and both parties might agree.  But we all know that the demon Trump will never give an inch, never capitulate to decency and reason, never let down his base.  But wouldn't that be just too beautiful if Kaepernick could just for one moment make a complete and utter fool of the monster!
Michael B. Added Oct 5, 2018 - 5:56am
@ Dura-Ace - "Cilil Rights Bill's"? Thank you for the new word! I'm also with you in that I would eagerly perform cunnilingus and several other kinky sex acts on Autumn to show my appreciation for her commitment to free speech, but don't tell her that! (Hee hee)
 
Cilil - Something that is ostensibly civil, but is actually evil, very silly, and ill, too.
 
Show me a better adjective that describes the Democratic Party, and I'll show you a donkey that can sing a version of "Laura" that puts Ella Fitzgerald to shame.
 
By the way...fuck Shimano! lol
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 5, 2018 - 10:13am
Actually Truman started that process:
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9981
 
The racist Democrats (“Dixiecrats”) turned into Republicans.
It’s telling that the Hitler humpers and Holocaust deniers are running as Republicans.
Ward Tipton Added Oct 5, 2018 - 10:23am
We have career politicians on both sides of the aisle unfortunately, none of whom will willingly cede any authority back to the persons of this nation. 
Ken Added Oct 5, 2018 - 12:14pm
FJ - Black people hate the demon Trump ten-to-one.
 
That is not true.  He has a 36% approval rating among blacks, the highest of any modern Republican president, currently.
 
They have been voting solidly better than 80% Democratic ever since.  That's not going to change any time soon.
 
Actually it could change as early as these midterms.  They are finally having their eyes opened in the last couple of years to how they have been used and disenfranchised by the democrat party and many are standing up and saying "no longer"
Dino Manalis Added Oct 5, 2018 - 1:33pm
 Democrats have come a long way, but they've become radical revolutionaries who lack the ability to govern responsibly.  A stronger economy has given African-Americans many economic opportunities and see some good in Trump's policies.
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:01pm
Radical revolutionaries????
 
LOL
 
Dino thinks that far out whackadoodles are the norm for Democrats.  I guess I have to look at Nazis/Republicans the same way.
Spartacus Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:07pm
Dino thinks that far out whackadoodles are the norm for Democrats.  I guess I have to look at Nazis/Republicans the same way.
 
You've just proven Dino's point.
James Travil Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:30pm
I don't know if they are going to vote Republican, but I do know that Ken is right about a lot of black folks being disillusioned with the Democratic Party, at least the ones I know. I don't know many black Republicans but I do know one who is very staunchly in that camp for the very reasons cited in this article, so there are more than just Kanye. 
Ken Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:35pm
Nazis/Republicans
 
Nazi is short for National Socialist.  That is a leftist view, not a Republican view.
George N Romey Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:41pm
Both parties are doing a good job of alienating all Americans. I'll never vote again when the two top choices were what we had in 2016.  I liar and a PR con man.  This is emblematic of a nation in decline.
 
Eisenhower did continue Truman's practice of putting the secret state on steroids.  Truman was way out of his league but Eisenhower should have known better.  Still, he was a gentlemen through in and through out and was an (unknown at the time) council to JFK.  It was Eisenhower that encouraged JFK not to attack Cuba even though JFK was very concerned about the political consequences.  
 
Today we get a nothings that just read off the talking points memos their staffs provide.
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 5, 2018 - 2:43pm
@William and Ken:
 
Still wrong, I see.  Good to see nothing changed.
 
You can look at my post on National Socialism if you need a refresher.  National Socialism is a right-wing derivation.  I know that bothers you.
Ken Added Oct 5, 2018 - 3:17pm
I have read your post, and no, not wrong.  It is right wing by european standards, it is left wing by US standards
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 5, 2018 - 3:41pm
That’s irrelevant, Ken.  You don’t get to cherrypick the way things are viewed just because it makes you unhappy.
James Travil Added Oct 5, 2018 - 5:14pm
I KNOW fascism is a rightwing extremist thing because Nazis themselves self-identify as being rightwing. Right wingers just want to make you believe that their shit don't stink. 
Ken Added Oct 5, 2018 - 8:55pm
That’s irrelevant, Ken.  You don’t get to cherrypick the way things are viewed just because it makes you unhappy.
 
not true.  We view things from totalitarianism to individual freedom.  Europe views things from socialism to totalitarianism.  It is a difference in viewpoints.  Nazis were not right wing. They were a nationalist left wing movement.
 
Any more than the DPRK is democratic or a people's republic, or the PRC is a people's republic.  Many totalitarian or communist or socialist movements love to name themselves as if they are "for the peole" when it is the exact opposite.
Ward Tipton Added Oct 5, 2018 - 9:48pm
Eisenhower did continue Truman's practice of putting the secret state on steroids. 
 
In his defense ... and I hate the police state and the uniparty system as much as anyone, but at the time, a good portion of the Intel services were comprised of military personnel so it may have been a sense of misplaced trust? Perhaps? 
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 6, 2018 - 3:25pm
@Ken:
”not true.”
 
Yeah, it’s true.  You don’t like the fact that a right-wing government started a World War and committed genocide.  Get over it, that’s the way it is.  There is no difference in European or US views on what National Socialism was.
 
“We view things from totalitarianism to individual freedom.  Europe views things from socialism to totalitarianism.”
 
That’s the biggest load of horseshit I’ve ever seen and I am currently living in the Trump era.
 
Did you just make that up or is that something you saw on Fox News?
 
“Nazis were not right wing. They were a nationalist left wing movement.”
 
LOL, that’s a contradiction in terms.
 
Ken, are you feeling OK?  It seems to me that you are just babbling now.  
 
James Travil Added Oct 6, 2018 - 7:10pm
"Did you just make that up or is that something you saw on Fox News?"
Ken doesn't watch Fox News Jeffrey, he considers them to be a part of the vast leftwing conspiracy. That's right, LEFTWING Fox, I'm not joking Ken is that extremist alt right that to him basically everything is leftwing. 
Ken Added Oct 6, 2018 - 8:09pm
Ken doesn't watch Fox News Jeffrey, he considers them to be a part of the vast leftwing conspiracy. That's right, LEFTWING Fox, I'm not joking Ken is that extremist alt right that to him basically everything is leftwing. 
 
absolutely false. When not watching football I followed the confirmation on Fox most of the day today.  I am neither an extremist nor an alt-right.  Yes fox leans left and I proved it in the UCLA study I posted.  It simply seems right wing because it doesn't lean as far left as everything else.
 
I am a constitutional conservative who believes in individual liberty.  There is nothing extreme in that position.  That is the moderate American position.  The trouble is that just being moderate seems extreme because the left has moved the goalposts so far left over the past 100 years that the left doesn't realize how radicalized they have become.  That is the true extremism in America
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 6, 2018 - 8:53pm
This was a great article and comments until Jeffrey boy, Ward T., and James T. started to comment.   
 
Ward T. where did this come from, "secret state on steroids."  Hoover ran the FBI for his own personal power, but like today the individual agents were patriots and management corrupt.  
 
James T., where did this come from, "I KNOW fascism is a rightwing extremist thing because Nazis themselves self-identify as being rightwing."  The only difference between fascism and socialism is that fascism is focused on nationalism and socialism sees the planet as their's.  Hitler removed the competition, Communism.   Both believe in collectivism, citizens serve the state so individuals are irreverent.  Hence the murder of opponents by the millions.  They set up class societies where the political class makes all decision.  Communist China is actually following the example of Hitler's economic approach.  To keep the economy from collapsing a partnership of crony capitalist and the state share power with the party approval required. 
 
Jeffrey boy comments are not even worth commenting about since they are so ridiculous. 
 
ACE, Thomas Jefferson was the first Democratic president and to get the vote for the south he allowed slavery in the Louisiana Territory which set the stage for the Civil War.   Kansas Nebraska law in 1854 ended the Missouri compromise, a few decades old.   Along with some supreme court decision the Democratic and Whig party of the crony capitalist was rejected by the governed in the north.  That year the Republican party was created and it grew like a wild fire to take over the House of Representatives by 1858 and in by the midterm 1862 it was likely to obtain the trifecta in Washington. 
 
I have discussed the actions of the Democratic party  many times and used black economist as my sources.  FDR  created the power centers of the Democrats  by creating the Black city ghettos, segregated public housing.  They know their Republican supporters, the crony capitalist, Whigs, were also concentrated in the cities.   Hillary Clinton won 57 counties  out of 3,141 and got ~ 51% of the popular vote.  
 
Dr King has shown the true strength of black Americans.  It appear that they are waking up to the truth.  I think again the governed will reject the Democratic party.  They are socialist.  The foreign policy of Obama shows no push back against Communist and Islam is the first leftist government ideology.  Caliphates create class societies with a governing class that controls everything, the same for fascism and socialism.
FacePalm Added Oct 7, 2018 - 1:40pm
Jeffry Kelly-
i was actually having this argument about Nazism on the pages of another blog when Autumn first contacted me.
 
So at the risk of redundancy, i'll make two - maybe three - relatively quick points.
 
The first is this:
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei is translated as "National Socialist German Worker's Party," and the highlighted portions in the German original is the source of the contraction "Nazi."

 
The second are the words of der fuhrer himself:
 
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
-- Adolf Hitler(1889-1945) German Nazi Dictator
Source: Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927. Cited in: Toland, John (1992). Adolf Hitler. Anchor Books. pp. 224–225. ISBN 0385037244.

 
"National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with the democratic order."
-- Adolf Hitler(1889-1945) German Nazi Dictator
Source: Adolph Hitler to Rauschning, The Voice of Destruction, pg. 186

 
Third, a citation in re: the foundation of the Nazis:
 
"To combat socialism, Bismarck put through between 1883 and 1889 a program for social security far beyond anything known in other countries. It included compulsory insurance for workers against old age, sickness, accident and incapacity, and though organized by the State it was financed by employers and employees. It cannot be said that it stopped the rise of the Social Democrats or the trade unions, but it did have a profound influence on the working class in that it gradually made them value security over political freedom and caused them to see in the State, however conservative, a benefactor and a protector. Hitler, as we shall see, took full advantage of this state of mind. In this, as in other matters, he learned much from Bismarck. “I studied Bismarck’s socialist legislation,” Hitler remarks in Mein Kampf (p. 155), “in its intention, struggle and success.”
-- William L. Shirer(1904-1993) American journalist, war correspondent, historian, author
Source: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1960, 96.)

 
and last, certain observable commonalities:
 
"Fascism, communism and national socialism all share in common the explicit premise that the individual must subordinate himself to society's needs, or as Hitler would phrase it: 'Society's needs come before the individual needs.' "
-- A. E. Samaan, Christian-Palestinian and Central American Hispanic author, artist, photographer
Source: 'From a Race of Masters to a Master Race'
 
Or IOW, the fictional/imaginary State is Supreme, and is the source of all privileges and immunities, there is no God but the State, and you have NO unalienable Rights.  This premise holds true for every form of governance known to mankind save that of the Constitutional Republic, and we're in danger of losing that, here.
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 8, 2018 - 12:31am
Oh, Thomas addressed me.  Thomas needs to go blow himself.  But it’s good that Thomas knows his place and knows better than to splat his stupidity on anything I write.
 
@FacePalm:
 
I wrote a couple of articles on both Fascism and National Socialism.  Feel free to comment on one of those articles.
FacePalm Added Oct 8, 2018 - 5:24am
Jeffrey Kelly-
Thanks for replying, but if you have no intention of even attempting to refute the contentions of not only the very meaning of the WORD "Nazi" but also of it's founder and chief proponent, i'm not feeling particularly motivated to waste my time searching for a vague assertion of "a couple of articles," especially with no links.
 
The bottom line for me is this: the democrats, especially the younger ones, have signed on to the promotion and establishment of socialism, and intend to replace the Constitutional Republic with it.  They're fools, doomed to ignominious and hopefully, permanent defeat and an inability to elect a dogcatcher for the next decade, minimum, although it is my sincere hope that it is utterly destroyed as a party unless it immediately reverses course and begins to obey the Oath of Office and promote Americans and America again.
 
In effect, by promoting socialism they are siding with the ChiComs, and therefore are traitors to this country, criminal oathbreaking perjurers who deserve nothing less than trials, convictions, and removal from all offices of public trust.
 
Besides, consider all the millions of immigrants and their descendants who escaped to this land from socialist hellholes, and not a ONE of them will EVER vote for these scum; they saw, up close and personal, the results of that form of governance, barely escaped with their lives, and do NOT want to see it here.  No one sane does.
FacePalm Added Oct 8, 2018 - 5:27am
And one other thing.
 
For me, socialism=fascism=communism, for all three have this in common: they assert the superiority of the group over the individual, and demand the individual sacrifice himself for a fictional entity under the control of the leaders.  The truth is, there are NO "collective" rights; the collective would never and could never exist without the individuals from which it is inferred, ergo ALL rights are individual.
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 8, 2018 - 6:33am
No, FacePalm, what I’m trying to do is not drive this article off topic.  I already wrote a couple of articles on the subject.  If you want to discuss this in a detailed way we can do it on the articles I wrote and not be disrespectful to the author.
Ward Tipton Added Oct 8, 2018 - 7:50am
Thomas Sutrina - 
"Ward T. where did this come from, "secret state on steroids."  Hoover ran the FBI for his own personal power, but like today the individual agents were patriots and management corrupt."
 
From a comment George Romey made earlier. And yes, I am sure Poppy Bush and even Sztrok <sp> and likely even Hillary Clinton consider themselves to be patriots. 
 
Mind you that is not to say there are not good agents as I have met quite a few over the course of my life, but they appeared from my vantage to be the minority. 
 
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 8, 2018 - 12:16pm
Jeffrey Kelly Added Oct 9, 2018 - 9:26am
I sense another article coming on.  I know it will piss off Stone... :)
Lindsay Wheeler Added Oct 10, 2018 - 6:00am
What a bunch of blithering idiots on all sides!  
 
America The Idiocracy!  
 
And Jeffrey Kelly----"Fascism is the Revision of Marxism". Making it Leftist! (Sternhell, Zeev. The Birth of Fascist Ideology. pg 5.)
David Montaigne Added Oct 10, 2018 - 7:32am
I am amused by outbursts of Trump Derangement Syndrome and am genuinely thrilled that many formerly closed-minded and straight-Democrat-voting African-Americans want off the Democrat Plantation, and that millions of former liberals have joined the Walk Away movement because they finally see the deranged depravity of the Democratic Party.  I never would have imagined I'd be happy to read about Kanye West making political statements - yet thanks to the Democrats being extreme enough to make that happen - here we are...

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