Where is the violence really coming from in American politics?

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This is just the past few days, I could do dozens or hundreds more going back further and bring in virtually every major democrat who has demagogued since the election.

 

This isn’t even getting into the extensive history of violence that has been normalized by the left with their riots, their looting, their vandalism, their constant shouting down of free speech.

 

“When they go low, we kick them” – Eric Holder

 

“You cannot be civil with a party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.  That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and/or the senate, that’s when civility can start again” – Hillary Clinton

 

“If you see anybody from that cabinet: in a restaurant.  In a department store.  At a gasoline station.  You get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome, anymore, anywhere.” – Maxine Watters

 

“Please don’t just come here today and then go home, go to the hill today get up and…please get up in the face of some congress people” – Corey Booker

 

More than 2000 protestors were arrested in Washington DC this weekend.  In Portland antifa is blocking traffic, harassing traffic, kicking cars, making threats.  The progressive mayor there does nothing and the police just stand by and watch.

 

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, Senator Ted Cruz, WH Spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders all targets by mobs while dining in restaurants.

 

A mob from the left tried to break down Representative Harris door to his office in the capital

 

And we aren’t even allowed to call them mobs!  The media is defending this mob behavior.  Imagine if anything like this happened like this with tea party how quickly it would have been called a mob.  You know legal protests that had 0 arrests the entire time.

 

OWS trying to blow up a bridge in Cleveland.

 

A registered democrat and Sanders supporter trying to execute all of the house republicans at a softball practice

 

What does Maxine Waters say about it all? She Blames TRUMP “We cannot allow Donald Trump and anyone else to take protest away from us and to deem it to be violent and to try and make us look like a mob.  They’re trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob.  Well this president is a poster boy for what a mob protestor look(sic) like.  He has been violent in his speech.  This country is past due for the kind of protest that we have seen women do in the last few days”

 

I don’t understand how any rational person can blame Trump for the violence and rhetoric that has been going on in this country.  It is all democrats rallying their base and getting them as angry as possible because they can’t believe they lost the White House, but also both houses of Congress and America completely rejected them.

 

They can no longer even rely on the courts to be the “super legislatures” they have been for half a century because constitutionalists are filling the seats at a rapid pace rather than leftist activists.

 

Extreme left-wing activists are now outing private family information of Republicans.

 

The FBI just arrested a radical left winger building a 200-pound bomb he planned to blow up on the National Mall

 

Letters of White powder sent to various senators

 

Attempted stabbing of a GOP contendor

 

paid protestors confronting Senator Jeff Flake on an elevator

 

I simply don’t understand how leftists, including many on this site, defend this behavior and say “It is all Trump’s fault”.  Why?  Simply because the voters rejected this ideology?

 

Is this the direction people really want America to turn in 4 weeks?

 

Why do I feel like “A clockwork Orange” type environment?

 

This is complete intolerance of any dissenting idea.  This is the ideology of the left.  This is progressivism which leads to totalitarianism.  That is the entire point of progressivism.  It amazes me that no matter how much evidence is provided, those of you on the left absolutely refuse to accept the truth and stick to your belief.

 

Comments

Bill H. Added Oct 10, 2018 - 10:07pm
Ken - When decent patriotic Americans witness their country being torn apart by greedy corporate-controlled or self-serving politicians, many will tend to react in violent ways. I am not a violent person and I do not support violence, but I certainly understand why many are sick and tired of being stepped on and ignored by the present administration.
Your idol Trump is set on dividing America even more than it is now. It is obvious that he not only promotes more division, but savors every bit of it.
Anyone who supports this asshole in-turn supports the destruction of our country.
I hope your proud!
Jeffry Gilbert Added Oct 10, 2018 - 10:14pm
Anyone who supports this asshole in-turn supports the destruction of our country.
 
As I have been a proponent of DUHmerica's demise for decades perhaps I should jump on the Trump bandwagon.
 
Bill H. Added Oct 10, 2018 - 10:16pm
Well Jeffry,
We couldn't have picked a better person to accomplish it!
Flying Junior Added Oct 10, 2018 - 10:44pm
What violence?  This weekend from what I can see protestors were arrested for being somewhere they were not supposed to be.  What was the last incidence of violence?  A handful of counter-protestors arrested at the Patriot Prayer thing in Portland?  Nobody at all was hurt.  What are you talking about?
 
There is no widespread unrest at all, whatsoever.  What the hell are you reading?  I am seeing no dangerous political violence anywhere in the U.S.  I only see frequent gun violence and almost weekly mass shootings.
 
From the left, huh?
 
We are so inured to mass shootings, nobody really even cares on the national stage.  If it wasn't in my neighborhood or my home town, it's just another mind-numbing mass-shooting courtesy of the NRA.
Ken Added Oct 10, 2018 - 11:14pm
Your idol Trump is set on dividing America even more than it is now. It is obvious that he not only promotes more division, but savors every bit of it.
 
My idol?  I didn't vote for him, but I am impressed with what he has done.  I had a very low bar of expectations and he has gone way past it so far.  What is really sad and pathetic is that Trump has done NOTHING as president to promote division and you HAVE NEVER PROVIDED A SINGLE EXAMPLE but you keep spouting it.  I can provide dozens of examples of your Messiah, Obama and his hatred and race baiting....you can even see it in my post from 2 of his cabinet members in Holder and Clinton, but you will continue to reject the truth because it won't fit your narrative...
Ken Added Oct 10, 2018 - 11:19pm
You really can't be that blind or stupid FJ.  Rand Paul attacked in his yard.  a Bernie sniper trying to take out the entire republican caucus, antifa and BLM rioting and pillaging and looting their own neighborhoods, Congressman Harris being harassed, you consider it non-violent to threaten families of cabinet members and congressmen and camp out by trespassing in their yards?
 
Are you really that indoctrinated into not seeing how uncivil and violent the left is?  I am truly sorry for your blindness, but "there are none so blind as those who will not see"
 
You are clearly in that category....You have seen the truth and you reject it because you are stuck in your misguided ideology.
 
I pity you...
Bill H. Added Oct 11, 2018 - 12:59am
Ken-
Apparently you didn't view the link to the video snippets of Trump fueling the fires of hate and violence at his rallies that I referenced some time back.
I am not surprised at all that you didn't
Flying Junior Added Oct 11, 2018 - 2:28am
Rand Paul was attacked by a crazy old man who happened to be his neighbor.  That's why he only got thirty days.  It was an ordinary dispute, even if completely unjustifiable.  I guess your thing is his voter registration?
 
A Bernie sniper?  We all regret the misguided fool who shot Steve Scalise at baseball practice.  But it was an isolated incident.  It does not impugn Bernie Sanders or his supporters.  The guy was mentally ill.  Completely outside of the democratic mainstream.
 
A bruised wrist?  He probably hurt himself trying to grab a sign.
 
If this is your case that violence comes from the left, then I suppose you are absolutely correct.
 
For a minute, I thought that you were talking about serious violence.
Flying Junior Added Oct 11, 2018 - 2:43am
Here is some true political violence from the right.  Basically an attempted assassination.
 
Gabrielle Giffords shot right through her fucking head by some psychotic right-winger while she was at an outdoor public meeting.  Maybe he saw Sarah Palin's
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting
 
It was pre-meditated.  It wasn't some aging psycho living in his van.  It was a guy with a high-powered rifle and a fancy scope that very nearly killed a congress critter.
 
Neither side wants violence.  Why don't you quit reading all of this inflammatory fucking bullshit?
 
Remember this ad by Sarah Palin, putting various congress critters in the crosshairs?  Here is Gabrielle Giffords herself just weeks before she was shot.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgnOgROJ8mg
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 5:24am
When you have a gloating, arrogant leader making triumphalist statements, riling up his base into a frenzy, insulting people, deliberately stirring up hatred, deliberately encouraging violence, then do not be surprised if you reap the whirlwind.
Too many lies. Too much propaganda from right-wing provocateurs. Too many gullible people. Too much division and hatred.
I'm glad I'm not living there at this moment.
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 6:02am
I'm glad I'm not living there at this moment.
 
So are we who live here.  The last we need is another communist, elitist, race-baiting-skin-tone-porn-loving lefty.
Leroy Added Oct 11, 2018 - 6:33am
You make the case, Ken, that the Democrats are determined to win, if not at the ballot box then by mob violence.  The leaders of the party, including mainstream politician Clinton on calling for violence.  It's unbelievable that O's card-carrying racist AG is now calling on violence.  It is unmistakable which party is the party of violence.  Whoever thought the Democratic party would devolve into gang violence. The only good thing I see is that we are witnessing history in the making.  
 
What happens in the Republicans pick up a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?  What happens in the Republicans retain the majority in the house?  The Democrats won't accept the results.  They will claim that Trump and Putin manipulated the elections and that they are not legitimate.  I don't expect it to happen, but if it did, there would be blood.  Who are these protesters?  For the most part, they are highly educated, well-paid people.  They are not your average Joe.  
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 6:56am
Neither side wants violence.  Why don't you quit reading all of this inflammatory fucking bullshit? -- FJ
 
Ken, I agree with you.
 
Funny to see the denial thread emerge here.  Yet, this is the oldest game by lefty fucktards.  The very thing they blame other people for -- they are the people that are actually doing.
 
I'm not sure if it is an intentional misdirect -- like gaslighting.  But this strategy has worked very well for the past 60 years.  The left really are the big racists in America.  The left are promoting violence now which is no surprise as Democrats commit violent and non-violent crimes 2 to 1 over Republicans.
 
What we will see is SJW thugs hold the governor of Portland, OR hostage (see Evergreen).  This is coming.  Oregonians already saw them threaten "whities" in their car with clubs as they were allowed to have free reign over downtown Portland streets.  When this happens, you can be damn sure their dumbasses will be blaming it on someone else.  We expect this from violent, childish morons . . . and prepared.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 11, 2018 - 8:20am
Bill H., are you talking about the wall street bankers and lawyer associations and medical companies that have bank rolled Hillary Clinton campaign.   They do fund both parties. "When decent patriotic Americans witness their country being torn apart by greedy corporate-controlled or self-serving politicians, many will tend to react in violent ways."  
 
Obama and his spokes people during his term put down police and supported the mobs in our streets.  The Dimms that control many cities prevented their police from stopping the destruction private property.  
 
Dimms sent in paid protesters which Veritas Project has on video stating that they were proud that their mob shut down a Chicago rally.  So the violence filmed at his rallies were actually started by those paid protesters.  
 
The Clam back DNC 1920 convention had KKK dressed people on the floor of the convention and marching outside.   In the south the KKK like antifa today is the enforcement arm of the party.  Not any different then the German National Socialist Brown Shirts under Hitler, ~ night of terror.   The Dimms have the gall to use the dragging to death of a black father to the talking women by the KKK, by putting it in a DNC ad.  She is a discredit to the memory of her father.
Dino Manalis Added Oct 11, 2018 - 8:31am
 Civilized people sit together and talk, they don't make matters worse with riots!
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 9:21am
Dino - I know Dino - civilised people are polite and discuss their differences in an intelligent manner - unlike many or the right on this thread for instance.
opher goodwin Added Oct 11, 2018 - 9:26am
Thank you Spartacus - or is it William? 
The pleasantness of your character is revealed nicely.
Race-baiting? Porn loving? Communist? Skin-tone? Elitist? Are you completely nuts??
I happen to be a white, anti-elitist, anti-racist, anti-misogynist socialist.
Please endeavour to apply your insults correctly and appropriately.
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 9:29am
Opher, I have a great website for you. <NaziMaker.com>
It is for your and FJ's "civilized" and "intelligent" "discussion" here on WB. 
Spartacus Added Oct 11, 2018 - 9:41am
Please endeavour [sic] to apply your insults correctly and appropriately.
 
You are always the first one to bring up skin color you racist moron.
You actually think you can hide behind your skin color while bemoaning and ridiculing people of theirs.  Bitch.  Go fuck off!
Leroy Added Oct 11, 2018 - 10:34am
I wonder how many sluts and nuts claims we will see against the GOP candidates just before the vote.  Project Veritas is exposing Democrats.  They will counter with something.
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:09am
FJ - truly pathetic.  Blame Palin for "targeting" districts?  Jered loughner was a registered independent but from all who knew him was a very liberal left winger.
 
 
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:11am
What happens in the Republicans pick up a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate?  What happens in the Republicans retain the majority in the house?  The Democrats won't accept the results.  They will claim that Trump and Putin manipulated the elections and that they are not legitimate
 
I don't expect either of those to happen, but even if the republicans manage to keep the house the violence of the left will be ratcheted up to an entirely new level.  Nothing is legitimate to the left if a republican wins.  It hasn't been for over half a century.
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:48am
Let's not forget the tearing down of statues and rewriting history,   The assassinations of police in Obama's last 2 years as he constantly sided with the rioters and never supported law enforcement.  The blocking of traffic all over the country by BLM, OWS and other democrat protestors.
 
Oh, and be sure we don't sweep the 4 OWS protesters that were convicted of TERRORISM for attempting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland.  Virtually every mass shooter was a leftist, the only 2 I can think of that weren't (or may not have been) were the LV shooter who's motive and politics are unknown and Dylan Roof, a white supremacist.  Every other shooter (that has not been identified as islamic terrorism) has been identified as a radical leftist liberal to my knowledge, from columbine right up to today.
 
It is so easy to keep adding to the list of violence without even a lot of brainpower.
 
On the right?  There was never a single arrest in any tea party rally.  All were peaceful, legal, and left the place cleaner than when they arrived.
 
 
Is there violence on the right?  Sure, there is some, but it is a very small minority and quickly denounced. 
 
The left uses it as part of their playbook.  BLM has never been denounced and Antifa has only been reluctantly denounced by a small minority, and even that was over a year after their violence began.
 
There is a stark difference between the collectivist mentality and those who believe in individual responsibility.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 11, 2018 - 2:03pm
Ken, it doesn't take my thinking to realize that all of the destruction done by black protests of police actions have occurred with the permission of the cities and or states.  I am saying this because insufficient police and national guard are called up to face off with the protesters.  So the police retreat and private property is destroyed.  The people doing the destruction must be bused in or be unthinking teenagers because adults that live in the community do not what the stores they shop in closed down due the destruction or theft. 
 
The destruction by students that are being taught in liberal colleges where the facalty vote and fund ~95% to Dimms and again occurring with the permission of the college because of they have held back police from taking charge of the situation.
 
Finally, Ken, antifa like its predecessor KKK only has been active in cities controlled by Dimms because they know that the police will be constrained from enforcing the law.  And in the case of Charlottesville  police actually directed opposing groups into a confrontation.   Then they stood back and let it happen. 
 
The Obama adminsitration cheered all of this on and even sent in intaginators like Rev. Al (not so sharp) Sharptin  that visited the White House many times.
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 3:01pm
Aside from the Obama administration cheering it on, they used the riots in Baltimore and St. Louis to investigate local police forces in an attempt to nationalize the police force.  This was another totalitarian power grab to take the power away from the communities and add it into the bloated federal machine.
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 3:40pm
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 5:54pm
Campus reform offering to pay students if they can name a single time a conservative shut down a liberal speaker on campus
 
This is like shooting fish in a barrel to find leftist censorship, hate, or violence, or intolerance, as long as you look at anything other than the leftist media that refuses to report on it
Rusty Smith Added Oct 11, 2018 - 10:41pm
I can hardly believe Hillary is telling her supporters that they need not behave civilly when confronting those evil Trump supporters.  I know she thinks that half of the country is despicable but she should also know that her words might inspire violent acts by her most hard left supporters.
 
If any of us went on National TV and were quoted saying we condone uncivil behavior against any group of people and then violence ensued, we'd be liable for causing civil unrest. 
 
Oh... but I forget, Teflon Hillary does not feel bound by the laws we have to live by, as was clearly illustrated after she got off with barely a slap on the hand for putting government business on her own private server, so she could delete things she didn't want released.
Ken Added Oct 11, 2018 - 11:03pm
I know she thinks that half of the country is despicable but she should also know that her words might inspire violent acts by her most hard left supporters.
 
I think they all do.  I also think they are counting on it.  
 
Imagine the chaos.  The democrats take back the house, Republicans still hold the senate, presidency.  They begin impeachment of Trump and Kavanaugh.  The Senate then rejects it.  They do endless hearings (closing off all of the Obama era investigations).  They subpoena Trump and anyone else they can think of. They subpoena his tax records (already audited year by year by the IRS, but irrelevant).  They go after every business deal ever made.
 
They are already saying the supreme court is no longer valid.  They have been saying for 2 years through popular vote and unethical investigations that Trump's presidency is invalid.
 
With the media backing them up completely and parroting their talking points.  We are saying the presidency is illegitimate, the supreme court is illegitimate, therefore policies and court rulings are illegitimate. 
 
The dissension would be catastrophic. 
 
If the democrats take the house in November, you are literally looking at the end of our republic.  This is not doomsaying, this is not conspiracy theories. The democrats have flat out stated exactly what they will do if/when they win the house.
 
Following the domino effect of what they say they will do is easy to predict. In fact, it is quite obvious.
 
This country is in a place it has not been in since 1859.  and in the next 27 days, we will see whether we have been totally ripped apart because of the collectivism and hatred of the left, or whether we put it down and make our stand.
 
Every election rhetorically is "the most important election of your lifetime", but this one actually may be.  2016 was and we rose to the challenge.  This is now the counter offensive because that was thwarted.
 
And all those cheering for the left are fools.  The misery they will cause not only in America, but around the country by voting for any democrat is their own fault.  They will be damning the world to a generation or more of misery and death.
 
Flying Junior Added Oct 12, 2018 - 2:38am
I think you missed my point.  There is no political violence happening right now.
Michael B. Added Oct 12, 2018 - 6:20am
HRC essentially issued a Declaration of War. Talk about a SORE loser!
Ward Tipton Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:38am
"On the right?  There was never a single arrest in any tea party rally.  All were peaceful, legal, and left the place cleaner than when they arrived."
 
Yeah, and that cheated all those poor union workers out of their overtime cleanup work! That was unforgiveable! You should strive more to be sympathetic like the Statists, leaving massive amounts of garbage in your wake so those poor union workers can get their overtime! You racist bastahd!
 
 
Kristen Foley Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:38am
None of those politicians you quoted have made a call for violence.  The closest to a call for violence was Eric Holder’s comment, but I don’t think he meant “kick them” in the literal sense.  It was more like fight back. 
Rusty Smith Added Oct 12, 2018 - 10:28am
Ward Tipton recently there was a pretty public challenge thrown out at Georgetown University where several conservative speakers were shouted down and unable to make their presentations by left wing people who think that behavior is ok. 
 
They suggested that sort of bad behavior is typical of left wing folks, but rare or possibly unheard of from right wing folks and offered $100 to anyone who could remember a left wing speaker who was shouted down by right wingers, at their school or any school.
 
No one got the $100, right wing people seem to be much more civil than left wing people, even when the left wing is saying stuff they strongly disagree with.  
 
Kind of funny the way the left always tries to make it sound like those gun toting right wing religious nuts are scary foks, when in fact it's the folks on the left who are responsible for most of the violence.
 
Look around, all the most violent parts of the US are controlled by Democrats.
Even A Broken Clock Added Oct 12, 2018 - 10:34am
I'm quite sure there's good people on both sides.
 
What you have to do is look at the continuum of behavior on both sides. There are those on both the right and the left who devolve into violent behavior as their first response. They have been and thankfully still are the minority of both sides of this political divide. The biggest issue now, though, is the ongoing coarseness of the language of both sides. I would maintain that the ongoing haranguing from Donald Trump at his endless rallies has stripped away the veneer of civility of the Democrats, and they have recently used language that supports the mob assertion.
 
Political demonstrators in Washington for the most part were following the older script of non-violent protest. No one says that non-violent protest is not disruptive. The script from some conservatives is that if there is disruption, then it is mob-incited, and certainly Soros is behind it.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 11:43am
You should strive more to be sympathetic like the Statists, leaving massive amounts of garbage in your wake so those poor union workers can get their overtime! You racist bastahd!
 
Well, they have the SF Poop App, so as people walk around San Francisco and snap pictures of all the poop on the sidewalk they can send out the pooper scoopers they have hired . You know $184,000 per year ??
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 11:44am
None of those politicians you quoted have made a call for violence.  The closest to a call for violence was Eric Holder’s comment, but I don’t think he meant “kick them” in the literal sense.  It was more like fight back. 
 
Wow,really?  While they haven't come out and directly said "go kill someone", what do you think they are calling for and rallying to?  What do you expect to happen when Maxine waters tells people to go harass people, surround them, get in their faces?
 
That is denial at its finest
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 11:45am
recently there was a pretty public challenge thrown out at Georgetown University where several conservative speakers were shouted down and unable to make their presentations by left wing people who think that behavior is ok. 
 
I posted the campus reform link just a few replies before yours about that very challenge
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 11:50am
What you have to do is look at the continuum of behavior on both sides. There are those on both the right and the left who devolve into violent behavior as their first response
 
The point you are glossing over here is that it is an extremely small minority on the right whereas on the left if it isn't a majority, is a very large minority and getting larger and larger.  All they have been doing since Trump's election is preaching hate and confrontation.
 
Even your biased article (much of it presented as fact, but simply opinion) you just posted has a lot of hate and vitriol toward Trump in it.  I am not going to bother with it however because it is so long and so many inaccuracies I am sure others will pick it apart.  I don't have the time to decode it all.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 12:13pm
Here is a great illustration between a tea party rally and the leftist mobs looking for violence
Bill H. Added Oct 12, 2018 - 1:03pm
Trump's end goal is to divide this nation completely. It's obvious that he thrives on negativity and conflict, as was portrayed well in his TV series for years. 
For the right, he fuels their fears about minorities and dissimilar others, calling Hispanic immigrants “murderers and rapists,” and stating in blanket-fashion that “Islam hates us.” His demonization of the “liberal media” and the Obama administration has transformed many right-wingers into full-fledged conspiracy theorists. Nothing could be more symbolic or pleasing to him and his base as building a huge wall.
It's going to take someone with courage, concern, and compassion for all Americans to even have the slightest chance of healing our country, if it is possible at all at this point.
Eric Reports Added Oct 12, 2018 - 1:25pm
If Trump were the "orange Hitler", these protestors would be mangled bits of flesh.
We have proof now that those on the top (Clinton, Holder, Waters) want violence by their very words.
Yet, the delusionists deny all.
It must be nice to live on Fantasy Island.
Leroy Added Oct 12, 2018 - 1:31pm
"It's going to take someone with courage, concern, and compassion for all Americans to even have the slightest chance of healing our country, if it is possible at all at this point."
 
It must kill you to see Kanye West hugging Trump while wearing a MAGA hat.  That does more to bring the races together than O ever did.  In fact, it was O who purposely drove a wedge between the races.  Trump is healing the divide.  Good jobs for everyone is the best remedy.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 2:01pm
Trump's end goal is to divide this nation completely.
 
Absolute lie.  Obama did that, not Trump.  That is a democratic play.
 
For the right, he fuels their fears about minorities and dissimilar others, calling Hispanic immigrants “murderers and rapists,”
 
Another flat out lie.  He said "some" and he was specifically talking about illegals and said so, but you cut both of those parts of the quote out of your comment to make your point, huh?  CONTEXT MATTERS!
 
His demonization of the “liberal media” and the Obama administration has transformed many right-wingers into full-fledged conspiracy theorists.
 
Again, another lie.  there has been no "transformation".  The liberal media has been that for years and the right has known it.  The left knows it too but won't admit it because they use it in their favor.  For decades the Media has been the PR wing of the democrat party.  Denial just makes you look silly because any rational person knows this.
 
How are right wingers conspiracy theorists about the Obama administration?  We know for a fact (not conspiracy theory) how divisive he was, how his administration was guilty of the worst abuse of power scandal in American history, How he spied on U.S. citizens for political purposes (and thatis just the tip of the iceberg).  How are facts suddenly conspiracy theories?
 
Nothing could be more symbolic or pleasing to him and his base as building a huge wall.
 
Nothing could be more protective of our SOVEREIGNTY than preventing people who aren't supposed to be here from being here.
 
What a complete load of crap your post is
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 2:03pm
For someone so divisive, impressive he has a 41% approval rate among hispanics and 36% approval rate among blacks.  Historic highs for any republican president.
 
For someone who seems to be a mysoginist and xenophobe impressive how black, asain, hispanic, female unemployment rates are all at record lows...
 
Your hate and complete lack of logic has absolutely no basis in fact
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 3:46pm
Our attack is merely a beginning. We are not passive, we are not civil, and we will not apologize.
 
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/12/nyc-gop-headquarters-vandalized/
Flying Junior Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:25pm
Actually William, I was laughing pretty hard at Mr. West.  He looked like he was having an attack of mania.  He even said that he had been misdiagnosed as bipolar for twenty years when all the time it was dementia caused by sleep deprivation. 
 
Let's just say that Taylor Swift taking a bold stand has inspired many more young people to register to vote than Kanye West's madness will inspire anything but derision.  Even Trump thinks he is a little whacky.
 
BTW, were you calling me a leftie fucktard or just my ilk?  That's even worse than my language.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:36pm
Let's just say that Taylor Swift taking a bold stand has inspired many more young people to register to vote
 
Sure has.  So much so that Marsha Blackburn who's race was a "toss up" is now polling 14 points ahead of her democratic competitor who Taylor came out to support.
 
Awesome!
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:52pm
On top of that, she didn't cause a bunch of voter registrations.  It happened to be the last day you could register to vote in 18 states.  Typical leftist false hype
 
https://therightscoop.com/stirewalt-shoots-down-dumb-media-stories-about-taylor-swift-causing-voter-registrations/
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 12, 2018 - 4:57pm
"When they go low, we kick them” – Eric Holder
 
“You cannot be civil with a party that wants to destroy what you stand for, what you care about.  That’s why I believe if we are fortunate enough to win back the house and/or the senate, that’s when civility can start again” – Hillary Clinton"
 
This is all the far left has to offer but violence and obstruction. They have nothing to sell the public but an attack on decency and the system. Both of these people are criminals and racists.
Bill H. Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:10pm
The Kanye show was a typical Trump attempt at showboating that backfired as usual. His only concern is making himself look good, this time making a real idiot of himself while thousands of people are homeless in yet another natural disaster.
I guess he ran out of paper towel rolls to throw.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:37pm
And it isn't just the left in America.  Another week, another pro-life protestor in Toronto gets taken out violently.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:41pm
Another untruth Bill.  did you even know Kanye wasn't the only one there?  So was one of the most respected black men in America that is also a Trump supporter - Jim Brown.  How exactly did Trump showboat when all he did was sit at his desk and listen while reporters asked Kanye questions?  Your absolute hatred is astounding.
 
What exactly is Trump supposed to do?  As you not it was a NATURAL disaster.  The federal government is not the first responder in these situations.  local governments are.  FEMA was in place, supplies and assistance were in place to help them once the storm passed.  Believe it or not, Presidents have more than one thing at a time to take care of.
 
Your absolute TDS and hatred knows no bounds, does it?
James E. Unekis Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:44pm
Ken,
I don’t understand how any rational person can blame Trump for the violence and rhetoric that has been going on in this country. 
 
The Democrats are not interested in being rational.  They simply want their way on everything.
John Minehan Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:44pm
As someone who spent four (very long) years in Lexington, VA, my advice to Mrs. Sanders is to eat at Frank's King of Pizza next time; great pizza and calzones and no one would bother you there.  Although on a wet winter night, you would be surrounded by a lot of people in wet grey wool, like a convention of depressed sheep.  
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:47pm
The Democrats are not interested in being rational.  They simply want their way on everything.
 
Yup, I know that.  Being kind of rhetorical.  Many of my articles are trying to point out how hypocritical they and their defenders are and how out of touch with reality.
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 12, 2018 - 5:48pm
I am not trying to single out Kristen Foley Oct 12, 9:38am, but I am using this as an example that the 'DIMMS' think that lying is going to work. Only for the uninformed which are not what WB is. Here is her nice short statement: <<None of those politicians you quoted have made a call for violence. The closest to a call for violence was Eric Holder’s comment, but I don’t think he meant “kick them” in the literal sense. It was more like fight back. >>
 
Let us go back to the campaign that the DNC, Hillary Campaign, and wealthy contributors like Soros actually did. The money came from someone because we know that protesters were paid.  We can thank Project Veritas for video. This is from an article that is favorable to the DIMMS  said about the result of the video.  Only ask yourself why two people resigned with all the positive media support and total denials by all the DIMMS?
 
http://chicagoist.com/2016/10/20/at_wednesdays_third_and_final.php
 
Did Democrats Really Hire Protesters To 'Be Violent' At Trump's Chicago Rally? by STEPHEN GOSSETT IN NEWS OCT 20, 2016 10:38 AM
 
"On the evening of March 11, Trump was scheduled to hold a rally at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)." 
 
"At Wednesday’s third and final debate, Donald Trump accused Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party of planting paid protestors to foment violence at Trump’s Chicago rally in March. Trump, as expected, was referencing a video released by controversial conservative activist James O’Keefe, in which Democratic operatives appear to urge disruption.
 
The video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY) features Robert Creamer—husband of Rep. Jan Schakowsky (IL-9th)—and Scott Foval, both of whom stepped aside from their roles following the video’s release."
 
 
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 7:01pm
Jeff M - I warned you of what the rules would be for you to post on my articles.  You WILL be respectful, you WILL stick to the topic, or you WILL be deleted.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 8:21pm
Jeff M - if you actually read anything I wrote rather than just rambling your leftist mantra and being rude in every post, you might understand that freedom of speech is protection from the government, not individual speakers.  There is nothing hypocritical in my stance in requiring you to be civil and stay on topic if you don't want me to remove your post.
 
I have the freedom of expression as well, and I choose not to consent to you being rude in my content.
 
There are many posters here who disagree with me who I have not deleted but rather responded to, some of which I strongly disagree with.  They are civil, on topic, and state their case.  I disagree with them and state mine.
 
We don't call each other names (or in your case you call names and others ignore), they don't ramble on saying the same tripe over and over without ever sourcing or backing it up, they state why they believe their position is correct they don't just personally attack.
 
That is called being civil.
 
Once you learn how to be civil, I will stop deleting your posts.
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:07pm
Here's one I missed!
 
"I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.  Maybe there will be" - Nancy Pelosi
 
 
Bill H. Added Oct 12, 2018 - 9:49pm
Ken-
Did you see the look on Jim Brown's face when Kanye was making an ass of himself?
I suspect not.
Did you see the look on Trump's face when the term "mother fucker" was uttered by Kanye?
I suspect not.
You only look for what will support your feeble views.
Get real!
Ken Added Oct 12, 2018 - 10:07pm
Did you listen to what Jim Brown said?  I suspect not
Flying Junior Added Oct 13, 2018 - 1:37am
Right wing competitors,
 
Why seize upon Eric Holder's play on words.  Michelle said, "When they go low, we go high."
 
It's only a tiny leap to say, "When they go low, we kick them."
 
Have a sense of humor.  It's hardly a call for political violence.
 
I think the biggest problem is that y'all just continue to go lower and lower with the lies, deceit and vicious support of tarnished republicans.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 13, 2018 - 3:10pm
The ferocious retorts to viewing a black person supporting Trump stems from the frightening prospect that the Black Voting Monolith may have cracks in it. A large split in the black and Hispanic votes means the Dems are helpless. 
 
Also, the maintenance of such a monolith is severe racism, the glue that holds the sticky mess of Democrats together temporarily. 
 
All the Dems have left are racism, hate, a psychotic quest for confiscatory taxes  and a failed governmental record. 
Ken Added Oct 13, 2018 - 7:17pm
Ryck, they are scared because while they may take back the house in microcosm elections, if the polls hold true and 36% of blacks and 41% of hispanics approve of Trump, they have no shot at the national level.  So they ratchet up the hate and grievance even higher which is pushing the die hard leftists to violence.  There are multiple stories about it almost daily.  It isn't even something you have to look hard to see.  You have to be intellectually disingenuous or complete leftist tunnel vision to deny what is going on.
Tamara Wilhite Added Oct 13, 2018 - 10:26pm
Violent liberals in Portland assault and threaten people, including a guy trying to drive by who is merely accused of being a racist due to his NC license plate. While police stood by and did nothing.
 
Portland Antifa protesters caught on video bullying elderly motorist, woman in wheelchair
https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair
Ward Tipton Added Oct 13, 2018 - 10:43pm
She may have run over some poor innocent soul while guiding her wheelchair through the crowds! Much more appropriate to batter her before she has such an opportunity to commence with such dastardly acts of evil! Preventative violence in the name of peace! Unification through segregation! 
 
We have always been at war with Eastasia
 
Ken Added Oct 14, 2018 - 2:01am
Tamara, isn't it amazing how it isn't even hard to search (or even time consuming) to get day after day - often multiple times a day - articles that support the theory of the violence of the left, and yet those on the left here continue to defend and downplay it?
Ward Tipton Added Oct 14, 2018 - 8:18am
"Earlier in the day, police began a search for vandals who damaged and spray painted anarchist symbols outside the same Upper East Side club.
Two men were spotted at around 1:45 a.m. breaking windows at the club, which is located at 83rd Street between Park and Lexington Avenues.
The vandals sprayed anarchist graffiti on the door, glued locks shut and damaged a keypad entrance system before running away.
They also left a message at the scene promising more acts of violence.
'Our attack is merely a beginning. We are not passive, we are not civil, and we will not apologize,' the message read.
It also denounced the conservative founder of a right-wing men’s organization – who appeared at the club last night."
Thomas Sutrina Added Oct 14, 2018 - 10:43am
Tamara W., Antifa is sanctioned by the Democratic party controlled Portland government as much as the southern states before 1960's sanctioned the KKK. 
 
I know the father of this now women is turning over in his grave by when his death by the KKK dragging him behind a vehicle in the rural south is used for a Democratic Party sponsored campaign aid against Republican Candidates.  Blaming the Republicans, a pure lie well debunked by facts  Including the Klan Bake DNC convention ~ 1920 in New York City with KKK uniforms clearly displayed inside and outside the hall.
 
So this statement by the Antifa mob shows their ignorance of history.  Also not teaching history is part of the tactics of the Government education/ indoctrination system.  Good article, "
“Go back to North Carolina! We don’t need your KKK,” one person yells, apparently referencing the man's license plate and connecting him to racism because he lives in one of the Carolinas.
The driver is seen calling the police, and some officers are visible nearby. But the cops do not appear to intervene. . . . Portland police spokesman Sgt. Chris Burley told KOIN that officers monitored the protest. He said, however, there was no intervention because police weigh "the ability for people to gather to practice their First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly, as well as the impact it places on the rest of the Portland community. . . .
The driver, who did not want to be identified, told KOIN he had gotten out of his car earlier asking the protesters to move, but they allegedly grabbed him. When he got in his car, protesters started hitting it.
The driver’s side window was smashed in the fracas. The man filed a police report after leaving the area.”   
 
I would like to get Sgt. Chris Burley's definition of the First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and assembly.
Jeff Michka Added Oct 15, 2018 - 7:22pm
Gawd, you silly rightists....all this "lftist violence" crap, trying to bolster the T party's midterm message  Ds and liberals are "the Angry Mob."  Let me call the Godfather!!  Funny, but Timmy McVeigh was a leftist democrat?  And you got ol Tamara trying to gin up rightists with the "antifa violence" in Portland.  We've also been told by rightists here how "the Governor of Portland" was holed up, surrounded by hoards of angry leftists.  Well, hope the Gov got away to run The State of Oregon.  You people can't even get basic facts correct.
Flying Junior Added Oct 16, 2018 - 4:39am
Ever heard of ,"The Proud Boys," in NYC?
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 16, 2018 - 4:54pm
Antifa is a pack of organized leftist slugs and violent persons who should be tried by the RICCO ACt.
 
We have cameras on some of these so let us prosecute them for terrorism. 
Ken Added Oct 16, 2018 - 8:52pm
FJ - I have, even was just listening to an interview with one of them - you realize they were peaceful and just reacted right?  It was antifa that caused all the issues and 3 antifa were arrested for attacking one of them and stealing a backpack.  Not sure what context you are asking about them in, but if it is to call them out, this wouldn't be the case to do it.
 
And antifa is going nuts in portland and NYC and other areas.
 
Ryck - antifa - the fascist group that calls themselves antifascist - funny thing about them is how homogeneous they are, 99% white middle to upper middle class males.  Have yet to be denounced by most of the democrat party or leadership
 
They are hardly anarchy - they are well funded and well organized.  they are the epitome of what a domestic terrorist group is.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 17, 2018 - 5:47pm
Ken
 
"Ryck - antifa - the fascist group that calls themselves antifascist - funny thing about them is how homogeneous they are, 99% white middle to upper middle class males.  Have yet to be denounced by most of the democrat party or leadership"
 
They are a strong-arm pack of thugs and the Dems love them. They need to be jailed. A Dem denounced this group?? A link?
Ken Added Oct 17, 2018 - 8:05pm
let's see, today....a republican candidate was attacked and in the hospital with a concussion, Susan Collins was threatened and people had to come in with hazmat suits due to threats.
 
No, no violence at all being preached to the left - and not a single person denouncing them
Ken Added Oct 17, 2018 - 8:07pm
A Dem denounced this group?? A link?
 
Believe it or not, Nancy Pelosi and a couple of others did in a couple of sentences  about a year ago, after months of violence and condemnation of not condemning them.  I haven't heard anything in the past year, however
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/08/30/pelosi-condemns-violent-actions-of-antifa-protesters/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2e795bcfa0d3
Bill H. Added Oct 17, 2018 - 11:17pm
 
Ken - These statistics are not from your usual sources of information, so I suspect you will write them off (if you read them at all).
Guess who is really the most dangerous group in America?
Ken Added Oct 18, 2018 - 4:24am
good thing the attempted assassination of republican congressmen didn't actually kill 1 then or your stats would be lower, huh bill?
 
funny how white supremacists are considered "right wing" when the KKK was the militant arm of the DEMOCRAT party.  Interesting how so few "left wing" assassinations are included there - especially when you consider the cop murders that apparently weren't even included.
 
Seems to be a lot missing from that ADL report (I didn't read the report just the article itself that interpreted it) - either the report was cherry picked or there is something specific in the methodology that allowed them to exclude it.
 
And while that is specifically talking about deaths, that doesn't mean that the vast majority of violence is coming from the left.  We are simply fortunate it hasn't resulted in more deaths yet, but those 2 congress candidates that were assaulted in Minnesota - 1 with a serious concussion that will be hospitalized for 4-6 weeks.
 
I never said that there aren't some extremists on both sides, but the vast majority of the violence and virtually ALL of the rhetoric is coming from the left.
 
People like you blame Trump for the divisiveness and completely ignore the hypocrisy of how many on the left are shouting louder and more often with a complicit media blasting their message 24/7
Bill H. Added Oct 18, 2018 - 11:31am
Ken - You are absolutely correct that the KKK was the militant arm of the Democrat party, but that was back in the day when the parties were actually reversed, and they each supported the platforms that were exactly opposite of what they are today.
Of course, if I stuck to sources of constant ERW propaganda, I would also be convinced that "the vast majority of the violence and virtually ALL of the rhetoric is coming from the left."
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 18, 2018 - 11:55am
The left has always used violence  or the threat thereof.
 
Lenin, Mao, Black Panthers, etc............
Bill H. Added Oct 18, 2018 - 12:26pm
rycK-
Thanks for making my point for me!
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Oct 18, 2018 - 12:52pm
Bill H.
 
No problem
Ken Added Oct 18, 2018 - 6:10pm
that was back in the day when the parties were actually reversed, and they each supported the platforms that were exactly opposite of what they are today
 
That is completely and totally a disproven myth.  I have posted on it a number of times and linked about the false claim of the republican/democrat southern switch.
 
Here is PragerU explanation
 
The Switch that wasn't
 
The switch myth
Ken Added Oct 18, 2018 - 6:12pm
Bill H. Added Oct 19, 2018 - 12:40pm
 
Sorry Ken,
History proves it is true if you do some library research.
Using internet sources such as you constantly do will accomplish nothing more than keeping you in your comfort zone. The sources you provided are exactly that.