Asia Bibi - Finally Released!! Time to get rid of obnoxious Blasphemy laws!!

This is what happens when religious fanatics gain power!! A lesson for us all!!

 

Religion should be a personal matter!

 

Asia Bibi has finally been released after 8 long years in prison for doing nothing!

 

It is a clear case of Religious Persecution. Asia was threatened because she is a Christian!

 

She was working with Muslim women in a village in Pakistan and drank water from a cup. The Muslim women refused to drink from the same cup because she had defiled it! HOW RIDICULOUS!!! They then turned on her telling her to convert to Islam!! She refused and it developed into a big row. She was harassed and told she had to convert. She was supposed to have made comments about Mohammed. That evening they beat her up and she was subsequently arrested and charged with blasphemy. Incredibly this charge carries a DEATH PENALTY!!!

 

Asia Bibi was locked up for 8 years under threat of death!

 

A politician who spoke up for her was murdered!!

 

In my opinion if Pakistan wants to be considered as a civilised country it has to do a number of things:

 

a. Repeal its disgusting blasphemy laws

 

b. Become more tolerant towards other peoples' views and religion

 

c. Become less violent

 

d. Control its mad fanatical extremists

 

I hope that Asia Bibi and the courageous judges who have released her are now properly protected from the barbaric religious fanatics.

 

I also hope that those extremists are arrested and dealt with. Their barbarism needs firmly putting down.

 

Anyone who advocates violence needs locking up.

 

If Pakistan wants to be a civilised nation it has to start acting like one. It is a hotbed of repugnant extremism!!

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-46040515

Comments

opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:13am
It's the same every time religious people of any persuasion gain power. They apply their draconian doctrines to inhibit the freedoms of everyone! 
They are active in the USA right now!
Liberal1 Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:23am
My biggest issue with any/all religions is that they feel free to demean, denigrate and/or disregard whatever beliefs someone might have, yet get immediately irate if you dare question their beliefs.  Christians are even worse than Muslims in that regard.  It's easier to make a heroin addict give up the needle than it is to get a Christian to give up beliefs that are clearly hypocritical.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:24am
It was very good news to hear of her release. I hope for her sake and for the sake of her family she is able to leave Pakistan because she will be continually harassed and perhaps hunted down if she stays.
 
India unfortunately is heading back into fanaticism as well. Looks like the British empire wasn't able to leave stable secular societies from the remains of its empire, Opher.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:50am
Liberal - yes - I think they are caught at an early age and it is deeply instilled. 
But tolerance is the name of the game IMO.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:52am
EABC - yes I think both she and the judges are in grave danger due to the violence of the religious fanatics. She'll probably have to leave the country. I bet there will be bloodshed over this. Which is absolutely ridiculous!
I hope Imran Khan gets a grip on these fanatics. They are running the country.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:53am
EABC - Yes again - in India it is the Hindu fanatics who are holding sway.
The British legacy isn't brilliant. But then colonisation is never a good thing.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:54am
Oph
 
These people are illiterate. That's the main problem. The more education the less superstition - and religion.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 10:58am
Stone - very true - their idea of education is purely reciting the Koran. It's a travesty and pure brainwashing.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 1, 2018 - 11:32am
Oph
 
We got that too in Senegal, those damned US allies Saudi use their oil money to put up Wahhabia schools. Fortunately the state oversees them, and due to the Confrereries they have, there is no jihadism bullshit who has set foot - unlike neighboring Mali, Niger or Nigeria.
Bob Added Nov 1, 2018 - 11:48am
The problem with revelations from the divine are that large groups of people use those alleged revelations to persecute others. People's actions are the defining factor to their character, not who or what these people worship. Religious extremism has been a plague on society for thousands of years and will continue to be as long as humans fear death. Being faithful isn't the problem. The problem rests in those individuals who use their beliefs to attack others or discriminate against them. I hate to single out any religion but Islam in many parts of the world wants to stay in or return to the iron age.  
Stone-Eater Added Nov 1, 2018 - 11:55am
Bob
 
One of my best friends and my business partner in Senegal is a Muslim. We had very long discussions - since I'm atheist. I mean nobody could ever convert me into a religion, but how he interprets Islam comes close to Jesus teachings, reaches the abstract (he has studied philosophy and is a fan of Kant and Rousseau) and showed me that there is a lot more to it than simple Allahu Akhbar screams.
 
I'd say that 95% of the Muslims have no real idea of what Islam is about, and, as in every religion, fundamentalists are either illiterate or have IQ's that are barely above that of a sheep.
Dino Manalis Added Nov 1, 2018 - 12:07pm
We should avoid religious extremism, because it's dangerous and goes against life!
goldminor Added Nov 1, 2018 - 5:16pm
@ Stone Eater ...it is not surprising that a portion of the tenets of Islam reflect some Christian concepts. Mohammed was no dummy. He tied in elements from Judaism and Christianity when creating Islam.
 
Imo, Islam needs to write a New Koran for the same reasons that Christianity needed a New Testament. Many believers go along with what they are told so that they fit into society. However, in today's modern world some of the tenets of Islam have become way out of touch with the world, and modern society. The internet has helped part the veil of ignorance for many as people who lived lives where information is heavily restricted finally get to have a glimpse of how others live and think. Let's hope that in the decades ahead that this has a positive long term effect of educating the many who need to be further educated.
Spartacus Added Nov 1, 2018 - 6:23pm
It's the same every time religious people of any persuasion gain power. They apply their draconian doctrines to inhibit the freedoms of everyone! 
They are active in the USA right now!
 
I was ok with your article until this glorifying addition in your comments which set an entirely different tone.  Your argument is a fallacy as you are making a false equivalence.   Dumbass!
 
How in the hell do you sleep at night with all those hypocritical colored marbles rolling around in your head?  You follow, practice, and defend the biggest religious cult of the day.  If anyone questions Muslim immigration policies in Europe, you state "draconian" condemnations by calling them a racist and bigot.  
 
You are quite bat-shit insane.  
goldminor Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:08pm
@ Spartacus ... the colored marbles are hypnotizing, very soothing to some.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:23pm
Stone - yes the Saudis have put billions into it. Wahabism is a disgusting extremism. The US sponsor it!
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:25pm
Bob - I agree. Religion has come out of the Stone Age and wants to stay there. The fundamentalist Christians, Hindus, Jews and Muslims are all as bad as each other. The intolerance is tragic.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:26pm
Stone - Some of those fundamentalists are bright Stone. They want power.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:27pm
Dino - I thoroughly agree!
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:28pm
Gold - I hope so. What Islam needs is an enlightenment, like Christianity had. It would separate religion from State and stop this extremist thinking.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:33pm
Spartacus. Nothing illogical about my stance. I simply separate fundamentalists from the majority.
Most Muslims are perfectly reasonable people who just want to get on with their lives. The refugees are people looking to escape to a better life. Radicalised fundamentalists are scum.
Where's any lack of logic?
I dislike all religion. But I respect peoples' right to believe what they want as long as they don't brainwash kids or try to foist it on others. That's called tolerance.
opher goodwin Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:33pm
Gold - you think that the evangelists or creationists are any different to radicalised Islam?
James Travil Added Nov 1, 2018 - 7:46pm
Not to toot my own horn but we Satanists don't have fundamentalists or religious extremists of any kind. Ours is a modern religion of humanism and rational thought not crazy superstitious beliefs and mythical deities and demons. We don't claim inspiration from on high (or low) we realize that all documents, including "holy dogmatic" ones are just the ideas of fallible men. Nothing is divinely inspired. Just saying. 
goldminor Added Nov 1, 2018 - 8:20pm
@ opher ...I would say that they are different due to the difference between the tenets of Christianity and Islam. That is a big difference. Islam condones violence, eye for an eye and such. The right to act out as the Hand of God in meting out punishment to sinners.
 
Then there are some evangelicals who still hold to Old Testament thoughts/values. Yes, it is a mixed bag. At least they don't have the beheadings, disfigurement, etc that still exist in modern Islam.
James Travil Added Nov 1, 2018 - 9:46pm
A New Quran is well past due for Islam. And even with the New Testament the Catholics did well when they lightened up a little via Vatican 2.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 3:59am
James - Sounds like I'm a Satanist too and I didn't know it!
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 4:01am
Gold - at this moment in time Christianity is not so violent. But it is not so long ago that they were systematically torturing people in the most horrendous manner and burning people alive in the name of god.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 4:06am
James - yes a Koran mk2 and a good enlightenment would do a world of good.
What happened to Asia was appalling.
We'll see which way Saudi goes now. Is it going to really drive out the extremists, stop promoting radical Wahabism and come into the 21st century or is it going to stay in the 7th century?
When we no longer need their oil there will be a real dilemma for them. Without those billions their economy will crash and they won't be able to wage chaos.
All the more reason for us to get alternative energy developed!
Stone-Eater Added Nov 2, 2018 - 6:23am
Oph
 
That terrorist Saud family needs to be taught a lesson. But as long as the US and EU support them nothing will change.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 6:31am
Stone - that is true. They've been promoting terrorism for decades. Why we remain in bed with them is incredible.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 2, 2018 - 6:37am
For strategic reasons against Russia. It's not the oil. Venezuela along with Russia, the African coasts, Iran and the Emirates would have enough oil to support the world.
 
Problem is most of them don't like the $/oil binding.
Stone-Eater Added Nov 2, 2018 - 6:44am
Fuck Bretton Woods. A terrible guy LOL
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 8:01am
Stone - and to get into the ME to get at Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 8:01am
Yes fuck Woods!
Koshersalaami Added Nov 2, 2018 - 1:05pm
Religions generally depend on interpretation of their scriptures. Wahabists and Sufis often draw opposite conclusions from the same document. The Old Testament demands death for Sabbath violators and disobedient children, but rabbinic interpretation didn’t lead to either. 
Marty Koval Added Nov 2, 2018 - 3:36pm
Pray that that Full armor of God is upon Asia Bibi and her family. Yes she is has been freed by the judicial system of Pakistan, but now the Muslin mob of haters in Pakistan are threatening to kill her.
 
The ACLJ is working feverously behind the scene to get her and her family to USA by the status of Asylum quickly. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless and deliver her from harm for His name’s sake.
 
This situation is just another example that Islam is not a peaceful religion.
 
Benjamin Goldstein Added Nov 2, 2018 - 3:46pm
How dare this kuffar insult the Prophet? Throw acid into her face, burn her alive, rape her while your at it! She had no respect for Islam and has to deal with the consequences. The right to speak does not mean speech without consequences. She has nobody to blame but herself. There is no place for her in this country!
- Angela Merkel
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 5:35pm
Kosher - that's true. You can justify anything you want from scripture.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 5:36pm
Marty - well I don't think Jesus or god have anything to do with it - but let's hope that she is spared from the attentions of the religious.
opher goodwin Added Nov 2, 2018 - 5:37pm
Ben - are you really suggesting that Merkel would say anything of the kind???? That's daft!!!
Ward Tipton Added Nov 2, 2018 - 11:55pm
"This is what happens when religious fanatics gain power!! A lesson for us all!!"
 
As opposed to political and other power hungry fanatics? 
Stone-Eater Added Nov 3, 2018 - 6:50am
Oph
 
That's rather an unwelcomed immigrant's remark ?
opher goodwin Added Nov 3, 2018 - 7:45pm
Ward - no they can be pretty bad too!
opher goodwin Added Nov 3, 2018 - 7:46pm
Stone - maybe!
goldminor Added Nov 3, 2018 - 8:19pm
@ opher ...humanity is slowly and steadily growing up. The whole world has had to do that. Just about every culture had their bad times when looking back in time. Some modern cultures are still antithetical to human rights. Look at the current situation in China where they are working on placing an entire population of people into reeducation camps/concentration camps.
 
Where is the outcry from the UN, or from the Western world? Thank fully Trump has come on the scene to step on China's toes. China's authoritarianism is the greatest danger to the world, imo.
opher goodwin Added Nov 4, 2018 - 4:25am
Gold - Yes I just watched two BBC programmes about these Chinese 're-education camps. It's been on the news here.
It is an extreme reaction to the militant Muslims and is deplorable. They are stamping down hard to stop the Uighurs becoming more militant and put a stop to the radicalisation and terrorism. 
It's very extreme but is it much different to what Trump would do with Muslims if he had the chance?
goldminor Added Nov 5, 2018 - 4:10am
@ opher ...if reeducation camps are ever built in the US, then they would be run by leftists.
opher goodwin Added Nov 5, 2018 - 7:54am
Gold - you're probably right. Like Guantanamo!
The right will probably just shoot everyone who doesn't agree with them.
Cullen Kehoe Added Nov 6, 2018 - 12:50am
I love how article about Islam and it's application in what could only called a backward country somehow morphs into a bashing session of Christianity in Western countries. 
 
Islam has a few components I'd say are dramatically different to Christianity. The biggest is the death penalty for apostasy under Sharia Law. This has been a central component of Islam from day 1.
 
So anybody "born a Muslim" in these countries can't leave the religion or else they can be put to death. (I've heard rare stories of Muslims who converted to Christianity and had to flee because their own families members were trying to kill them for the crime of apostasy.)
 
Many families in this area of the world practice honor killings of their daughters if they either don't marry who the family tells them to OR are not virgins on their wedding day. 
 
Muslims, as I understand, are commanded to tolerate but act belligerent towards Christians and Jews (people of the book). I understand that Muslims are told not to greet Christians or Jews on the road and to purposely force the Christians and Jews to the edge of the road and only respond if the Christian or Jew greets them first. 
 
In fact, many conversions to Islam from the very earliest days and still happening today in this area of the world are forced conversions. The Koran as I understand is fine with 'convert or die' for anyone other than "people of the book (Jews and Christians)". But sometimes it's even applied to Christians and Jews. 
 
Does this sounds anything like Christianity? It doesn't to me. 
 
Christians are persecuted in neighboring India as well (by the Hindu's there). But it's not government policy like in Pakistan, it happens in the rural areas. 
Cullen Kehoe Added Nov 6, 2018 - 12:54am
@Opher - What draconian Christian religious measures have been passed in the U.S.A.? Care to mention one? 
Cullen Kehoe Added Nov 6, 2018 - 1:00am
There are some interpretations of Islam, as I understand (because I'm not an expert) where Taqiya is practiced that says it's okay to lie or deceive unbelievers. 
 
Lots of things like this. The religion of Islam, in my opinion, has almost zero in common with Christianity. 
 
The way I see it is Western countries are tolerant of opposing views and have freedoms BECAUSE of Christianity. These aren't typical human virtues to want to tolerate people who disagree with you. And as Western society further dumps Christianity as it's basis, you'll see more upheavals and less decorum because that's humanity. The radical Left, that's humanity. Dressing in black and beating people up for a good cause. That's humanity. Islam comes out humanity. That's yourselves, people. To want to kill those who disagree with you. 
Ward Tipton Added Nov 6, 2018 - 1:35am
American Re Education Camps But I am sure it is only a crazy conspiracy theory because the Government has only been actively recruiting this as a Military Occupational Specialty since 2011. 
Ward Tipton Added Nov 6, 2018 - 5:24am
Army Resettlement Recruitment Ads
 
Guess I should have added this too ... but hey, I am sure it is all just crazy talk. 
opher goodwin Added Nov 6, 2018 - 5:36am
Cullen - I have no wish to kill people who don't agree with me. My philosophy is one of tolerance, freedom, equality, respect, responsibility, empathy and compassion. That is what informs my life and my views. That was the basis of my teaching and how I ran my school.
I think Islam is a pernicious and evil religion. The intolerance and violence it generates plus its misogyny is appalling. It makes it the worst in this present day. But most Muslims are not like that. I blame Islam not Muslims.
As for other religions - the extreme fundamentalists are just as bad. We see it with Buddhists in Myanmar, Hindus in India and history is littered with the sins of Christians - inquisitions, holy wars, burnings of witches and Catholics, torture and immense cruelty and persecution.
Fortunately we have been through an enlightenment and removed Christianity from the State. That has lessened the effect. America is still a backdoor theocracy though. Nobody gets elected without paying lip service to the evangelicals.
We see them at work behind the scenes with things like abortion, sex education and contraception.
opher goodwin Added Nov 6, 2018 - 5:42am
Ward - that looks crazy!!
Ward Tipton Added Nov 6, 2018 - 5:48am
Implemented under Obama ... meet the new boss, same as the old boss. 
opher goodwin Added Nov 7, 2018 - 6:13am
Ward - make the new laws same as the old laws.
Ward Tipton Added Nov 7, 2018 - 8:20pm
You should know by now how I feel about statutory or man made laws.