Hypocrites Everywhere

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Some people will talk of love
While they hate
Some will say they forgive
and hold a grudge
Some say don’t judge
and point fingers at everything
They are neither loving
Forgiving
or nonjudgmental
hypocrites 
everywhere you look
just talk
self righteous things
and they are none of that stuff
Just take a look
You’ll see one or two

By Minister Peacefulpoet (word witch) 11/6/18

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Stone-Eater Added Nov 7, 2018 - 1:45pm
Oh....finally back, great :)))
Dino Manalis Added Nov 7, 2018 - 2:32pm
 There needs to be a balance, because life and issues are complex!
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:51am
I tried to jump in earlier.  Was having tech difficulties with Writer Beat, but it seems to be much better, still slow though.  Don't know if its firewalls in place here at work.  I was having trouble with RT earlier as well.
 
Balance is good.  What is upsetting to me is all the hatred.  Way too much hatred.  I don't know if this is something knew or if I'm just starting to notice.  But that inspired this poem. 
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:52am
I don't know if this is something (new) or if I'm just starting to notice.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:16am
Welcome back! Hypocrisy is rife! We need some honesty.
FacePalm Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:16am
MPP-
For me, the short story is that the left hates America, and anyone trying to make America better is treated as an enemy; great, and they're treated as a dangerous villain.
 
Psychologically, what i believe is behind hatred is fear; since fear is not an emotion most like to acknowledge publicly, they go to anger as a substitute.
 
But what can you do?  In both my experience and from my observation, any and all olive branches are spurned, any offers of compromise rejected, and if one ever gives in to their demands, they want more - and are never satisfied.
 
i believe it was Lenin who said that peace can only come after all resistance to socialism has ended - and in his case, he was just as happy that the resistance ended in the grave.
 
The Great Seal of the United States contains 13 olive leaves and 13 arrows for a reason; spurn peace, and we're ready for war.
 
Jefferson said: "Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it," but what can be done when reason is abandoned?   When your opponent in any argument tries to frame you as a nazi, a racist, a xenophobe, a misogynist, a homophobe, an islamophobe, etc., based on exactly zero evidence?  They're not interested in the free exchange of ideas; they're interested in capitulation or violence, surrender or attack.  Those using descriptors of that kind are in no way interested in hearing your point of view and debating it with sense, reason, and an argument intended to persuade; they start with violent rhetoric which shuts down conversational avenues, then escalate to violence!  The marketplace of ideas leaves their low-order emotions behind; they know they cannot compete, that their ideas are dross when compared to those of their opponents, otherwise they would defend the value of their ideas honestly, openly, and rationally, with the calm that comes from a sense of confidence and assurance.
 
Of course, i believe that many of these leftists are PAID to take positions like this in ORDER to sow the seeds of anger, hatred, contempt, and demeaning; those are seeds that grow defenses, return anger, and reap defensive violence in return.  Those who sow the wind reap the whirlwind, which leaves little but destruction and chaos in it's wake...which may indeed be their only true goal; such as these do not wish to cooperate with what brings prosperity, orderly homes/gardens, peace with neighbors and a genuine sense of love unfeigned.
opher goodwin Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:17am
The hatred has sure ratcheted up a few notches!
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 5:06am
There is this borg mentality.  If you're not like us, we don't like you.  
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 5:17am
Facepalm:  "But what can you do?  In both my experience and from my observation, any and all olive branches are spurned, any offers of compromise rejected, and if one ever gives in to their demands, they want more - and are never satisfied."  - This is true
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 7:53am
Shep
 
WB IS slow at the moment. And ..... I wouldn't call it hate. I'd rather call it ignorance.
Steel Breeze Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:09am
the real prob to me is folks putting the best interests of their team(party) b4 the best interests of the country........best for both sides to drop the over-emotional reactions and try thinking for a change......but at 70,aint holdin my breath....
Stone-Eater Added Nov 8, 2018 - 1:36pm
Steel
 
You're cool. If you're 70, ok. Even better. Maybe you can explain to our exaggerated youth here (40-) that life ain't what they think it is LOL
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 2:24pm
I wrote another poem.  Almost write one or two everyday - but, I can only make one post a week here or something like that - shame.  So, I'll just share it here - hope you all like it if you happen to read it:
 
Dark of Night
Light of Day
Darkness is simply the absence of light
Its not all light
Its not all right
But not so wrong
It is this
That makes the song
Birds don’t sing at night
and crickets don’t sing
in the daylight


When one star dies
another star
is born
Life is taken
Life is born
Roses have thorns
and bees sting
all life lives
off the death of another
What you might want to know
is
What is all this for
That’s just this dimension 
If we don’t get it right
God is good
Grants an extension 
After we’ve known all the darkness
and learned all the light
We move on to another place
Where there is no day
or night
By: Minister Peacefulpoet (word witch) 11/8/18
Susitna Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:31pm
To FacePalm:...otherwise, they would defend the value of their ideas honestly, openly, and rationally, with the calm that comes from a sense of confidence and assurance.
It would be so wonderful to talk about issues and solutions. Just imagine. 
Susitna Added Nov 8, 2018 - 4:36pm
To MPP: Wonderful poems. Thank you!
 
There is this borg mentality.  If you're not like us, we don't like you.  
Very true and sad. 
James Travil Added Nov 8, 2018 - 5:39pm
Good poem sir! Hypocrisy is probably the thing I most dispise. And there is a lot of it around. 
Jeff Michka Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:20pm
If it hurts "the Others'" tribe, it's good, if it hurts the good white people tribe....baaaaad.  Funny, all the rightists shake their hypocritical heads and cry how leftists are so violent and hateful, but we "need" to break up asylum families, take away Social Security and Medicare to pay for rich people and corporate tax breaks, and then try and tell people, it will all trickle down to them.  Hmm.  That's been to story since Ronnie Raygun.  That extra $9 next year will be a game changer.  And the worst part is, too many "wanna believe" it will be true, but it never will.  The world was gonna change with the Ts controlling government.  Uh huh.  The stock and trade of rightists here and else where consit of lies and hate so "they" won't notice.
Jeff Michka Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:21pm
"...where consist of lies...."  ooops.
James Travil Added Nov 8, 2018 - 9:27pm
It's funny Jeff because you always say that there are no more Rs' they are now all Ts' and today I read an article from a rightwing site that actually essentially confirmed that. They said that the RNC old school republician was no more, it's all Trump republicans from now on. The article was from a rightwinger named Austin Frank, like I said before I follow both sides but this one made me laugh. 
FacePalm Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:26pm
James-
Hypocrisy is probably the thing I most despise.
 
Curiously, Y'shua ha Mashiach feels the exact same way.
James Travil Added Nov 8, 2018 - 10:35pm
So does Yog'SoToth
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 8, 2018 - 11:57pm
Steel - Like this is a sports game or something.  We should want what's best for the country, not, what's best for the team.
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:06am
Jeff - it is hard to tell exactly what a liberal or a conservative is.  If you listen to the TV, you would have it wrong.  They exaggerate, sensationalize and just basically, Just make stuff up.  I've seen people try to post this is a conservative, this is a liberal piece and always conservatives and liberals will chime in and say, that isn't true.  I have learned a long time ago to just scrap the whole idea and realize that people are people regardless of the title they take or are given.  We all want the same things.  Love, Freedom, Prosperity.  We all have different ideas about how to obtain those things.  We should listen to each other and learn from one another, but unfortunately many of us are blinded by these boxes we put each other in, or choose to be in and defend.  See past it and you'll see a whole lot more.   
FacePalm Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:18am
"Yog so Thoth"?
 
Been awhile, but wasn't that H.P. Lovecraft?  To the best of my recollection, that thing was a monster that didn't do a lot of thinking, much less care about so human a thing as hypocrisy.
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:19am
Susitna - thank you - I will continue to share
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:29am
James - you do know that an upside down pinnacle means that you are more materialistic and less spiritual.  I always wonder about people who display such things, if they really know what it means.  
James Travil Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:45am
Face Yog'SoToth is indeed from the Lovecraft mythos. As all religious mythical beliefs are simply fictions based on the works of men I thought I would pick one I respect. Yog'SoToth is an Outer God who is the master of time and space. Their appearance is as higher dimensional spheres which move into and out of each other. Seeing Yog'SoToth causes sanity loss from viewing a higher than three dimensional object. Yog'SoToth being an Outer God is considered to have intelligence beyond human understanding or measuring and certainly has a very solid grasp on hypocrisy. 
James Travil Added Nov 9, 2018 - 12:51am
MPP I am a member of the Church of Satan and very much know what a lunar "inverted" pentagram means. Us Satanists celebrate the materialistic and physical because it is the only thing that exists. We reject the phoney spiritual world and superstitious nonsense because those things are myths, delusions, and illusionary falsehoods created by men for the purpose of controlling and deceiving others. I reject such lies and embrace the truth of the real world. To find more of what I believe see www.churchofsatan.com 
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 9, 2018 - 5:30am
James - that all makes sense except for Satan - isn't Satan myth also, or is that the only thing that is real, but still, satan is spiritual - not making any sense.  
opher goodwin Added Nov 9, 2018 - 8:23am
MPP - what makes you think that we move on to another place? I see no evidence.
A thought - the darkness of space is bursting with light.
 
James Travil Added Nov 9, 2018 - 10:30am
Satan is a myth also, he's just the mascot for the Church of Satan and represents to us the rejection of false gods and the supernatural. 
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 9, 2018 - 2:41pm
opher - I remember before I was born, I've been to that other place, that's how I know, but I couldn't stay there and I did not want to leave, but I'll get to go back there eventually, and so will everybody else.  Everybody else has probably been there as well, once or twice.  For some odd reason, I'm just one of the rare few who can remember.  In the Abrahamic its called heaven, in the eastern religions its called Nirvana.  In the Wicca side of the house its called Sumerland.  I guess in the satan religion its called hell - what ever.   
FacePalm Added Nov 9, 2018 - 7:05pm
Opher-
Interesting; it seems you may have read the Bernard Haisch article after all.
 
MPP-
If you're interested, let me know and i'll post a link to what was alluded to just now.  The author postulates that the Light created on Day 1 of the bible narrative refers to an Omnipresent Light, and as such, is perfectly hidden from our sight...for we only see things by way of contrast.  If the kind of "light" referred to in Genesis is indeed Omnipresent, then an equal amount will be both internal and external to the eye, effectively blinding us to it's Presence.
Minister Peaceful Poet Added Nov 10, 2018 - 2:58am
Facepalm - interesting theory, I have not heard that.
FacePalm Added Nov 10, 2018 - 9:45pm
It's related to the Zero Point Field.  The article is titled: "Brilliant Disguise: Light, Matter, and the Zero Point Field."
 
The attributes of the Most High are Infinite, but some sum them up as "Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent."  The article deals with the latter, in what i found to be a most "illuminating," so to speak, way.

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