We've Been Had!

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One year ago, I wrote a post titled You've Been Had!, highlighting the people that the administration had placed in positions of high responsibility, and detailing their (un)fitness for those same positions. It is now time to revisit this administration, showing how much (or little) progress has occurred in support of the stated objectives of Donald Trump, with a special emphasis upon how the actions taken are diametrically opposed to the goals espoused during the campaign. I would write more about the people involved, but most of the original list are either under indictment, or have left the administration in order to crawl back under the most convenient rock.

 

So what were the pledges that Donald Trump made that fully excited his base and enabled him to claim victory through the vicissitudes of the Electoral College. Here's what I took away from the campaign in terms of pledges.

  • Build the wall. Build a physical barrier along the southern border of the US in order to reduce the 50% of the illegal immigrants to the country who physically cross the border
  • Lock her up. Appoint a special prosecutor in order to determine the basis for prosecuting Hillary Clinton for her E-mail pecadillos.
  • Drain the swamp. Run an administration that works for the forgotten people of this country who have been dominated by those coastal elites, who are probably Jewish
  • Eliminate all traces of the actions of that traitor, Obama

There were more, but these were the pledges that resonated most strongly with the base during the campaign events in 2016 (and 2017 and 2018). So now that we are two years into this administration, how are things going? How well have these pledges been fulfilled? Note that we are not discounting the one true accomplishment of this administration, that of turning our judicial branch of government over to the Federalist society to be remade in its own image. That is one that has been overwhelmingly successful, probably to the long-term detriment of the citizens of the US.

 

Build the Wall. Ban Muslims. Stop the invasion of the US by undocumented others. Well, after two full years, we have seen prototypes of physical wall designs installed near San Diego. We've fixed some of the existing barriers on the southern border. And we've sent thousands of active duty military to the Texas border where they are sitting awaiting the onslaught of, women and children and men who form a rag-tag army of pestilence aimed at inflicting gang violence upon an unprepared nation. Or so we heard in the lead-up to the mid-term election.

 

We've not had any fiscal authorization for a physical wall, even though Republicans have held a majority in both houses of Congress to this point. Maybe it is because even those Republicans who have had to link arms with the President in order to survive his famous tweets, realize that building a physical wall across thousands of miles of arid landscape makes zero sense. Who knows? But with the legendary negotiating skills of the Snowflake-In-Chief, we can expect a braying noise to begin hitting the airwaves about the absolute necessity to authorize funds for the wall. This is in order to allow a continuing resolution to be passed that will keep the Federal government operating in the near future.

 

We've seen incredible incompetence in the implementation of the zero tolerance policy earlier this year leading to the family separation debacle. To think that children would be separated from their families without even a rudimentary way to connect the parties after separation occurred! To think that, if concern for children being brought into the country for exploitation was a reason for this policy, they would not have had a genetic testing program in place to confirm familial relationships. No, what we the people got in the implementation of this program was a totally incompetent effort that was fatally flawed in order to demonstrate the toughness of this administration. Incompetence that is continuing with the show of military force at the Texas border.

 

So all of the effort we see is aimed at the interdiction of people physically coming over the border from Mexico. Meanwhile, we see zero activity aimed at stopping the roughly 50% of those who are in the nation illegally due to overstaying their legitimate visas. That's about par for this administration. Devote outlandish attention to their incompetence with one half of the problem while totally ignoring the other half of the problem as if it doesn't exist. The people of the US applaud the efforts of this administration to rid us of the flood of illegals who are forcing us to eat tacos.

 

Lock her up! We will show the nation what we value by assigning a special prosecutor to take down that noted criminal, Hillary Clinton. What she did by exposing the secrets of this nation to the risk of discovery by having her unsecured e-mail server is a traitorous act. So how's this effort going? Uhh, there doesn't seem to be a special prosecutor anywhere in sight for Hillary, but the effort by Robert Mueller seems to be giving this President fits at this time. I never realized that the word collusion had to be preceded by the word no, but now I cannot separate the two words in my mind. Seems like the walls are closing in on this President, much like the walls of the garbage compactor in the first Star Wars movie. Once Roger Stone is indicted, and the facts show that he indeed was the link between the Russian operatives and the Trump campaign, feeding them tidbits about the upcoming release of scores of e-mails, the loop will be closed, and we will see the collusion duck waddle and quack in a very duck-like manner. But it is amazing how the line of Lock Her Up still elicits uproarious shouts each time it is brought out at one of the hundreds of copy-cat rallies this President uses to get his adrenaline fix.

 

Drain the swamp! Yeah, that isn't quite working like people may have thought. Who could have foreseen that by draining the swamp, that would include gutting the efforts to enable for-profit college students who were defrauded by institutions that scarfed down the Federal student loans of their marks  students, from being able to gain relief from these loans? Why, didn't Betsy DeVos appoint a program dean from DeVry University as head of the Student Aid Enforcement Agency? What could be better than to have someone intimately involved with one of the for-profit colleges being sued, to serve in an oversight and enforcement role for the debt forgiveness program? Is not the fox the best guard of the hen house?

 

Ok, maybe this was an isolated case. Let's look at something that really does affect many of Donald Trump's core supporters. Those who are suffering financial distress, and have to turn to payday lenders in order to meet an immediate need for cash. Unfortunately, due to the excessive fees and interest charges for these loans, many who use them as their last resort find themselves trapped in an endless series of rolled-over loans, each with additional service fees added. It is the perfect mechanism to squeeze profits out of those least able to pay.

 

The Federal agency working on behalf of consumers, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) issued regulations on October of last year that provided at least some regulation of this new financial product offering. The regulations would have ensured that the lenders make an assessment as to whether the person seeking the loan could pay it back, and set a limit on the number of times that a loan could be rolled over. Alas, the regulations were not to become effective until August of 2019.

 

In July of this year, Treasury Department urged the CFPB to rescind the rule, stating that it was not needed. The administrators of the Treasury Department, who have only the hearts and well-being of the public in mind, insist that it is the proper role of the states to set guidelines for the payday loan industry. Just like they had done so thoroughly before the Federal effort to set regulations in this area. Guess that the swamp drain got clogged up with all of those donations from the payday loan industry to receptive swampers.

 

Oh well, I guess it is going to be difficult to find cases where the swamp is actually being drained. Let's go on to the last of our items, erasing all traces of Obama from the government. On this pledge, we can unequivocally state that the pledge is well on the way to being fulfilled. From the Iran nuclear deal, to the non-binding Paris Climate accord, to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and through a myriad of other actions, Donald Trump is demolishing all traces of his predecessor in office. And he's not through there. He's demolishing all traces of the past 73 years of the post-war diplomatic environment. Through his blatant disregard for diplomacy and for the necessity to understand that words have consequences, this china shop bull has smashed the crockery higgledy-piggledy. Throwing the weight of the US around, he unilaterally withdrew the US from the Iran nuclear control pact. Iran is now unencumbered from adhering to the limits and inspections imposed by the pact, and could restart their nuclear program.

 

But Iran is small potatoes compared to the signal diplomatic achievement of the Trump presidency to date. That is the love affair he is conducting with Kim Jong Un of North Korea. Who can forget the statements of affection between Donald and Kim? "A very worthy, smart negotiator, absolutely," in the aftermath of the June meeting between the two men in Singapore. And, who can ever forget what was said in Wheeling, West Virginia in late September. "I was really being tough, and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love, okay? No, really. He wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters. We fell in love." Of course, other than not conducting actual nuclear explosion tests, or new ballistic missile tests, there is absolutely no evidence that North Korea is taking any steps to denuclearize. Our inexperienced diplomat-in-chief, who knows more than all of the rest of the government put together, would never let himself be snookered by a tyrant whose only ambition is to keep his regime in power. I would bet that Kim has actually read Machiavelli. He certainly is using the playbook very well as he uses flattery to disarm the leader of the US until he can make his nuclear arsenal and its deployment a "fait accompli."

 

 No, even more so than when I wrote it in November 2017, it is clear that "We've been had." The track record of nearly two years shows that we can only expect worse and worse as we wind our way to the next election cycle. At least there will be one chamber of the legislature that will not bow down to the leader of our nation, who is so afraid of a bad hair day that he would forego a centenary observance of the end of the first world war.

 

Posted first on my blog at https://evenabrokenclock.blog/

Comments

opher goodwin Added Nov 16, 2018 - 12:32pm
EABC - yes! That was obvious from the start. Walls, trumped up charges, healthcare, draining swamps...… what a joke!
Two years with both houses - nothing achieved. Is he going to blame that on the Dems?
Yet they still believe him.
George N Romey Added Nov 16, 2018 - 12:35pm
And the very same exact thing could be said about Obama:
 
Reigning in Wall Street
Public health insurance option
Changing the way Washington DC did business
Reducing income inequality, providing more opportunity.
 
The problem is people that think this is a "Trump problem".  If Trump left today these problems would go unsolved because those individuals that fund politicians have never had it better.  Why would they want change?
Dino Manalis Added Nov 16, 2018 - 12:40pm
 Trump likes to arouse his base, but he had to become presidential and work with others to make America better, now he has to work with a Democratic House.
goldminor Added Nov 16, 2018 - 12:40pm
Two years of resistance, soem of that coming from within the R Party even. That is why some of the above is true. Still he has accomplishments in other areas. I am not going to present any of that here as what would be the point. We stand in disagreement on a portion of the points made in the post.
 
By the way did you read where it was the Secret Service who held him back from attending the ceremony? I figured that there had to be some legit reason which the left leaning media was not mentioning. Amazing times we live in. I would paint it as a time of mass hysteria.
Bob Added Nov 16, 2018 - 1:21pm
George is right on key. Obama campaigned on numerous platforms and did the precise opposite of what he campaigned on. Criminals are not held responsible in the political world. Politicians and their donors are immune to the law. Some conservatives even argue this aspect of political immunity from prosecution but only when it comes to the people they like. It is strange to see such inconsistencies in both sides and their different views on "justice" and who should be prosecuted. We live in a kleptocracy and until that is the general consensus of the people expect our nation to continue its decent into inverted totalitarianism. 
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 7:56pm
Opher - the continued acceptance from the true believers that the orange one is working in their interest and has no other desires is truly amazing. The credulity of the base strains even the most liberal tendencies towards a belief in the tooth fairy. I think that the tooth fairy is more likely to exist than it is for DJT to really represent the underprivileged class.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 7:58pm
George - I for one do not think this is solely a "Trump" problem, but it has developed over the course of my 40 year working career. Having said that, the brazenness of the Trump crowd to just shove pretense aside and validate the belief that it is the privileged class that is the only class that matters has become so blatant as to defy belief.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 7:59pm
Dino - I truly believe that DJT is incapable of working well with others. In Kindergarten today, he would receive failing grades and be medicated immediately as an ADHD victim.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 8:04pm
goldminor - love the name, by the way. I've been investing in miners for a long time, should have taken profits when the shares were up and captured free shares.
 
I saw that DJT claimed that it was the Secret Service that put up the barrier against his traveling to Belleau Woods. I have not seen confirmation from the Secret Service itself. To me it seems that this excuse is a self-serving item that aims to absolve him from taking responsibility for his own action. However, I will let this Presidential glitch stand as being free from guilt. I will hold him responsible for not attending any service in Arlington this past Monday when all he had to do was go over to Robert Lee's house and lay some greenery.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 8:06pm
Bob - you make some good points. So what do you suggest as a way to reduce the tendency of the ruling class to devolve into a kleptocracy?  I'd be interested in hearing your solution.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 16, 2018 - 8:13pm
Mogg - I'm having difficulty in discerning the point you are making. Are you claiming that politicians lie? If so, I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is going on. Yes, politicians dissemble, but never in my 46 years of Presidential voting have I seen such a soul as DJT gain ascendency in our national establishment. And never did I think that those who I believed were honorable, even though I did not agree with them, would sell their political souls in exchange for budget breaking tax cuts and judicial appointments that the President doesn't even believe in. If you can show me that DJT has been a constitutional originalist in his philosophy over the years, then I'll sell you the New River Gorge Bridge.
 
No, you cannot blame the media for this debacle. It is those who were paid their 40 pieces of silver in exchange for their souls who must be blamed for the abomination of DJT as President. And those of us who don't agree with the direction of this nation? We must protest, and my form of protest is the written word.
Morgoth Added Nov 16, 2018 - 9:04pm
Wait, politicians lie????????
(Faints, falls in chair)
 
Seriously, though, before Donald’s inauguration I did have a sort of detached curiosity about the whole thing, coupled with a faint feeling of dread.  The only thing I can think of that's comparable is the knowledge that I’m close to fifty, therefore I’m heading to my first scheduled colonoscopy.
 
But the Donald hasn’t disappointed, has he?  His two major accomplishments are putting two more conservative judges on the Supreme Court and signing the Great Welafre Act For the Rich of 2017.  BTW as someone who resides in the Middle Class I’m looking with some trepidation at filing my taxes in February of 2019.  But, hey, that wasn’t for me anyway, right?  After all, I’m not a millionaire/billionaire nor do I own a major corporation.  I sure as shit didn’t see any benefit on my paycheck but no Republican cares about that.
 
 
BTW, I actually want the wall built.  Why?  Because many of the hearty souls that live on the Texas border voted for Trump are going to wind up on the wrong side of that wall.  Boy, that irony thing is a bitch, isn’t it?  
 
As far as the ACA goes, why, I waited with baited breath wanting the Republicans to repeal it.  Enough foreplay, damnit.  Let’s do this thing.....
Unfortuntely for me some Republicans lost their nerve when they realized they actually had a president that would sign a repeal.  This of course would’ve led to millions of Americans losing their healthcare which for them would’ve been political suicide.  Oopsy.....
 
In any case we have two more long years until we get a chance to do it all again.  I have no idea what will happen in 2020.  By then I will indeed be old enough for my colonoscopy.  Hopefully Americans will have learned a hard lesson and not be so damn stupid again.  Otherwise, well, bend over.  We’ll all be up for a colonoscopy.
Morgoth Added Nov 16, 2018 - 9:15pm
Welafre!????
Damn, too much covfefe.
 
:)
 
I meant Welfare.  Thank you and have a nice evening.
Flying Junior Added Nov 17, 2018 - 2:53am
It turns out that we really didn't need a wall.  All we had to do was install concertina razor wire on the top of existing fences.  Simple!  That's what happens when you put the U.S. Army in charge.  Shit gets done!
 
As far as Trump's illustrious cabinet of opposites...  (Exact opposites of the people that were needed.)  Betsy DeVos will take the prize.  Although Trump was too cheap to actually support vouchers, (nobody explained it to him that he could use vouchers as an excuse to cut school funding,) yet her legacy will remain intact for at the least three years.  The republican old guard is forever in her debt.
 
Dammit!  When the sons of wealthy republicans get into trouble forcing their girlfriends to have sex there needs to be an escape clause!  Thanks to Betsy's timely and prescient efforts, young bucks who force themselves on their classmates and female friends will not have to face lifelong victimization and demonization.  Young rapists deserve to be heard!
 
Everybody knows that lots of girls cry rape when their boyfriends leave them for another conquest.  No fury right?  These vengeful, opportunistic girls must be subjected to laws targeted specifically at them!  Another victory for safety and common sense.  Thank you Betsy!





Doug Plumb Added Nov 17, 2018 - 3:30am
We invade and occupy foreign countries because they are indebted to our banks and in return our banks want access to their natural resources. John Perkins explains this. Trump doesn't have any say about this, he doesn't run the banks and only has authority for domestic matters- sort of.
Alan Greenspan admits the Fed answers to no one on youtube (sorry, but those are just the facts). So if Trump did something to piss the Fed off, the Fed could raise interest rates, collapse the economy and send the domestic armies in to collect all the assets. Or everyone could starve, not being able to afford the food we now import from China.
So why does everyone keep thinking that you can change the sticker on the ketchup bottle and somehow the contents of the bottle will magically transform into something non cancerous? Do people simply choose to live in Wonderland because they cannot face the truth? Do they imagine that someone will ride in on a white horse and save them like in a Speggetti western movie?
The first step in solving any problem is to assess the nature of the problem. This is the most difficult step, after which, a solution often becomes obvious. But no one is prepared to identify the problem.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 17, 2018 - 11:52am
Jeffrey, loved your "Enough foreplay, damn it" line. But then reality set in, and even though the ACA may be ugly, the Republicans just couldn't kick it out of bed. Then this campaign they even held it up as an example of virtue. Just look at who was campaigning for preservation of coverage for existing conditions. Of course, they neglected to note that their solutions to ensure continuing condition coverage would have resulted in astronomical premium increases, since they eliminated the requirement to treat all people equally except for some age premium. But then, that's in the fine print, and no one has time for that in a 30 second political campaign commercial.
 
Maybe we need to hold campaign commercials to the same standards as we do pharmaceutical advertisements - they have to list the contraindications to the politicians pledge at the end so that folks could at least be exposed to the truth.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 17, 2018 - 11:55am
FJ - Betsy is the poster child for the type of ideologically driven person who should never have been handed the reins of power. You can see a trend here. The problem (for someone at the top who's been accused repeatedly of misogynistic behavior) is not that women are harassed or raped, the problem is that men have their careers ruined by these accusations. And you can draw a straight line from the behavior during the Cavanaugh hearings to these new regulations promulgated by DeVos, and come to your own conclusions.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 17, 2018 - 11:56am
Doug - I agree with you, but once the problem is identified, how do you solve it? Do you think that as the US loses reserve currency status in the upcoming years, we will see additional wars fought to try to retain this power? If so, how do we resist this trend?
Doug Plumb Added Nov 17, 2018 - 1:57pm
Once everyone gets on the same page, there will be enough political types who care about the country, will run for office and the people will be wise enough to vote for them.
This is not going to happen in a nation that thinks Germany killed six million Jews and the USA put a man on the moon.
Doug Plumb Added Nov 17, 2018 - 2:21pm
How about starting with telling Revenue Canada and the IRS to fuck off and go back to Israel where they belong.
Flying Junior Added Nov 17, 2018 - 9:47pm
Hey Revenue Canada and the IRS!  How about you guys fuck off and go the hell back to Israel where you belong?  Yeah man!  That felt good.  I often wonder about how it feels to be a wild hyper-partisan and buy into every insane conspiracy theory out there.  How does it feel to deny that CO2 in the atmosphere has contributed to global warming?  How must it feel to believe that Hillary Clinton is a criminal and belongs in prison?  What would it be like to shout out your enthusiastic approval for every disgraceful thing that Trump says that makes normal people cringe in shame and embarrassment?  It probably feels really great, doesn't it?  Big kick in the pants. 
 
I was going to try to do a song parody to the tune of Bob Dylan's 1965 classic Just Like Tom Thumbs Blues, but I couldn't work out the rhymes.

Doug Plumb Added Nov 17, 2018 - 11:33pm
How does it feel? How is that relevant?
Flying Junior Added Nov 18, 2018 - 12:02am
To an outside observer, right-wing extremism is quite fascinating.  the most non-political form of it is, without a doubt, the propensity to deny the veracity of climate science and by extension to not support common sense efforts to limit carbon emissions of a nation.  To me it is a great wonder both how and why anybody could possibly be so stupid, yet the proponents of climate science denial are very fervent in their opposition to the true science.  I just can't help but wonder why?
 
The whole right-wing thing just seems so irrationally macho.  I would love to be another fucking idiot who does not believe in gun control.  A lunatic who believes only in reverse racism.  A fucking whack-job that believes that coal can be part of a clean energy policy.  I mean it must just be awesome to throw all care and intellect to the wind and just be another insane Trump supporter.  I'm sure the hardcore guys absolutely hold nothing but hatred and pity for us liberals.
 
What does it feel like, Douggie?  Is it really great?



George N Romey Added Nov 18, 2018 - 9:51am
We've been had at least since Johnson.  Carter may have been more of our "moral" Presidents but he wasn't up for the job.  We've been conned by the best talkers (actors) on each side.  Reagan on one side, Obama the other.  Too many people just too stupid to understand its never been about them.  The "sheep" effect.  In actuality I'm not sure how much smarter the human race is beyond sheep.  
Lindsay Wheeler Added Nov 18, 2018 - 11:03am
The Haters will Hate. You can't stop Trump Derangement Syndrome. 
 
The blindness exhibited by Broken Clock is enlightening. 
 
On the Wall. Senate Democrats blocked it!  Simple as that!  Senate Democrats are responsible NOT President Trump. 
 
On the reform of Obamacare?  RINO in Chief Senator John McCain voted that down. 
 
The worst enemy of President Trump's agenda has been the filibuster rule in the Senate, Senate Democrats and saboteurs in the Repuke party. 
 
President Trump has fulfilled his promises of tax cuts, of deregulation and conservative judges on the Supreme Court. He is a breath of commonsense. It is too bad that the country is so far left and PeeCee that he can't get anything done. 
 
Work with Demoncrats?  Nah
Neil Lock Added Nov 18, 2018 - 12:21pm
Bob: Criminals are not held responsible in the political world. You have it right there.
 
Whether political criminals masquerade as Demoncrats versus Repooplicans, or Repressives versus Depressives as I used to call them when I lived in the US almost 30 years ago, they are still criminals. On both sides.
Doug Plumb Added Nov 18, 2018 - 1:30pm
re "To an outside observer, right-wing extremism is quite fascinating.  the most non-political form of it is, without a doubt, the propensity to deny the veracity of climate science and by extension to not support common sense efforts to limit carbon emissions of a nation.  To me it is a great wonder both how and why anybody could possibly be so stupid, yet the proponents of climate science denial are very fervent in their opposition to the true science.  I just can't help but wonder why?"
 
Why you ask? Because we can see that the AGW agenda is not about AGW, this is obvious because it is self contradictory. Anyone interested in reducing carbon emissions would not be building solar and wind farms. We can see the real agenda in addition to the ostensible agenda, which is all you see. The real agenda is to peek between your sheets a little more often.
 
Doug Plumb Added Nov 18, 2018 - 1:33pm
re "What does it feel like, Douggie?  Is it really great?"
I'm not a Trump supporter and I have lost many friends due to my political beliefs, but truth is special, and its rare. The spirituality involved in turning oneself to be oriented toward truth is in itself rewarding. The friends I lost weren't real anyway, they were much like everything else, sugar coated with nothing nutritious on the inside.
wsucram15 Added Nov 18, 2018 - 1:50pm
Trump lies?  Seriously? OMG  about what?  He is the teller of absolute truth barr none. Doncha know?
EABC..wow, Im stunned, no Wall paid for by Mexico, and he isnt draining the swamp but adding to it?  But I think at a rally he said he didnt believe in draining the swamp it was an idea someone floated and it became a crowd chant...so did he lie?  LOL  Cant stop the immigrants..its an invasion!!!!!
Or is Trump just the same as always...a rich guy who cant hold onto anything, even huge vast sums of money and love.  Eventually everyone will figure him out.  He fooled many people in NYC for a long time..not any more.
 
George N Romey Added Nov 18, 2018 - 2:18pm
I’d say it more like Trump is a really bad liar.
Doug Plumb Added Nov 18, 2018 - 3:44pm
The reality is that the USA and most of humanity has been under a Jewish Masonic "spell". The evidence of this is in symbolism around the white house and on the money. The Eye Of Horace and some of the buildings in DC make this obvious. Its supposed to be obvious that something is going on other than the simple administration of a common law government. There is a hidden agenda. Somehow many people cannot see it. But people are waking up to this and the fact that the JQ isn't a silly question. (silly questions are easily answered).
Doug Plumb Added Nov 18, 2018 - 3:46pm
Also, it must be remembered that this is a fictional government that only has lawful jurisdiction over fictional entities.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 18, 2018 - 8:08pm
Doug - I was willing to interact with you on your first post here, but you have clearly jumped the shark. Anyone who is in league with those who deny the holocaust and deny the moon landing is not someone whom I wish to converse with. Therefore at this time I am ignoring your comments - note not deleting them (yet), but I'm just not going to read them unless you generate excessive controversy.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 18, 2018 - 8:11pm
FJ - I don't think he'll end up responding adequately because he obviously believes each and every conspiracy theory coming down the pike.
 
George - that (Trump is a really bad liar) is part of why the reaction to him is so visceral. We may be able to stand someone with a smoother demeanor, but cannot stand someone who doesn't think we have the mental ability to remember his directly contradictory statement one week before, or one day before, or one hour before, or one sentence before.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 18, 2018 - 8:16pm
Lindsay - have you ever stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, the real country doesn't like what Trump is doing? Did you ever think that maybe the real country, as evidenced by vote counts, has thoroughly rejected Trump's retreat back into a fondly remembered past that never was as good as was remembered? Did you ever think that you are in a distinct minority that is getting smaller and smaller as the logical fallacies involved with the MAGA movement are exposed as broken crockery? Because that's exactly what he's peddling, broken crockery which he claims only he can glue it back together. Only he really has no interest in gluing things back together, his only joy in life is tearing things apart and breaking more crockery because of how lousy his real (not his façade) life is going?
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 18, 2018 - 8:19pm
Jeanne - one can only hope that the rest of the country sees through the curtain and realizes the stagecraft that is the only true manifestation of his movement. Never have I seen someone so transparent as to how he is manipulating his minions. Just watch those stage managed rallies. Party platform positions from crowd reactions. That's a sound way to run the country.
Morgoth Added Nov 18, 2018 - 9:04pm
@Even A Broken Clock:
”Anyone who is in league with those who deny the holocaust and deny the moon landing is not someone whom I wish to converse with.”
 
Well, he also denies the existence of nukes.  I’m actually surprised he isn’t a flat earther but he is also a 9-11 “truther.”
George N Romey Added Nov 18, 2018 - 9:12pm
So a better liar is something preferable. One funny thing about Trump after 2 years his enemies haven’t pinned so much as an unpaid parking ticket on him. By the way he went to the same fancy schools as your dear Democrats and made good grades. I know one thing if I needed a good lawyer or powerbroker I’d want someone just like Trump. How he mopped up the floor with Obama is truly classic.
Flying Junior Added Nov 19, 2018 - 1:24am
How he mopped up the floor with Obama is truly classic.

I know you hold some strange beliefs, George, but this one is inexplicable.  Obama is perhaps the most beloved public figure in the world.  Hundreds of millions of people detest Trump.  Trump made jackasses of the American voters, but he never touched Obama.
Jim Stoner Added Nov 19, 2018 - 2:23am
Even a Broken Clock:  The way to reduce bribery is to pay public servants more.   The problem is that the financial stakes in the US are so high.  The President should be paid CEO money, on the order of several million per year, with post-term pension dependent on a continuing resolution from Congress. 
That would take care of the question of emolument; the other problem is the obscene cost of a Presidential campaign. Candidates who meet some standard of public fund-raising (accountable contributions) should qualify for authorized funding (like that which is present today, though it is not being used), but that should rise to the level of the opponent's all-in spending, if the opponent does not take public funding. 
 
I'll keep throwing this stuff out there, regardless. 
Doug Plumb Added Nov 19, 2018 - 4:32am
re "Anyone who is in league with those who deny the holocaust and deny the moon landing is not someone whom I wish to converse with. "
 
Don't listen to those NASA scientists that say that Van Allen is impenetrable. Wrt the holocaust - throw away your calculator and never add anything !
George N Romey Added Nov 19, 2018 - 8:01am
Let me see.  Obama roasted Trump at the Correspondence Dinner in Washington DC.  Clearly Trump was not happy.  So what to do?  How about run for President and win showing I'm not the fool he just said I was.  That is mopping the floor.  Taking over the job of someone that despises you and embarrassing your friend (HRC) in the process.  
 
Really you people have such a strange fear of Trump its laughable.  You just can't accept the fact that for all his bluster the guy is pretty harmless.  
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 19, 2018 - 10:53am
George - regarding your assertion that Trump's enemies have not been able to pin even a parking ticket on him. I guess you are unfamiliar with this story from the New York Times (yes, I know, failing mainstream media that you cannot trust to tell the facts).  I believe that DJT has been shown to be guilty of much more than a parking ticket, including the fact that his fixer pled guilty to acting on his instructions when he set up the payments to his paramours. George, the only reason Trump was able to follow his unreasoning desire to obliterate Obama's record was because he was able to convince plain ordinary folks that he was on their side - and the evidence is that he not only is not on their side, but is actively working against the interests of ordinary people. But you believe what you want.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 19, 2018 - 10:57am
Jim - would that we could have some way of negating the Citizen's United court verdict. Unfortunately, with the ongoing onslaught of judicial nominees who will aid and abet the corporate influence (as vetted by the Federalists) we are moving further and further into the monetary black hole otherwise known as campaign finances.
Jim Stoner Added Nov 19, 2018 - 11:09am
The truth of what you say is undeniable--the political campaign spending arms race is out of control, as evidenced most recently by the recent special elections and the midterms.  One conspiracy theory I would buy into is that all the major paid media outlets of all political persuasions want that ad money to just keep growing. 
I do think that this will be a topic for the 2020 election debates, at least on the Democratic side--the Republicans fool themselves into thinking unlimited money helps them win, but it isn't so.
 
We can't look to the courts to help--basically, with anything.  What I proposed is  something that could fit onto the existing regime, just making it feasible for a worthy candidate to run using publicly donated money.   Reform of a more radical kind will have to await more elected officials who are not so beholden on PAC and corporate money, which I think will happen, but over a longer period of time. 
George N Romey Added Nov 19, 2018 - 1:09pm
What I saying is Trump is still President and has been convicted of any crime that would cause his impeachment or forced resignation.  He won an election his pundits claimed he would massively lose against what some considered the most experienced candidate of all times.  So it other words he made a chump out of you and people who think like you, and continues to do so.  Ultimately the people you support from Pelosi to Debbie Walterzman Schults are bigger losers than Donald Trump.
wsucram15 Added Nov 19, 2018 - 5:53pm
George..
They arent going to convict him, first of all they cant.  I told you this months and months ago.  It would be political suicide for either party and the press created this monster, no one else.
In fact, if new progressives go too far on him, they might run into problems.  Also if Dems dont produce something with Republicans this is an issue unless Republicans hold it up and then they are toast. Yes reform must be done..and the new progressives must lead the way, but they are no match for McConnell or Trump.  It is legislation that needs to get through and...
People want Trump kept in check...I disagree but that is what they want by a large margin of both parties.  This is where the new people will be most effective.
A lot of the men that werent up for election this mid-term will be up next time.  Either way, it will be a blood bath in 2020.
wsucram15 Added Nov 19, 2018 - 5:59pm
Also I have met many of the people to whom you refer on both Democratic and Republican side.  What is it about the strong fund raisers and power brokers you have a problem with?
Since McConnell is still in and some of the conservatives with support of the Koch brothers..what is your problem with old school battling old school until we weed them all out?
I agree all the parties need NEW faces but the PACS have not changed.
That is still there. We need a clean slate...then we can begin again.
Doug Plumb Added Nov 19, 2018 - 6:14pm
I wonder how many WB folks are familiar with Plato's Cave.
George N Romey Added Nov 19, 2018 - 6:27pm
Of course they can’t Jeanne. Trump would in a heartbeat leak dirty secrets to Fox News and the friends he does have at the FBI. This is like one Mafia Don claiming he’d  expose other Mafia Dons. This is going to be the same political theater until 2020 when Trump will again beat the Democratic candidate.  
 
The plutocracy and Wall Street will never, ever allow a real Progressive to be nominated. They are simply there as a come on.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 20, 2018 - 11:07am
Jeanne - we need to figure out what would be a political neutron bomb. You know, something that would take out the existing people yet leave the structures behind. I'm not quite sure what that would be, though .....
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 20, 2018 - 11:14am
George - There is no question that DJT confounded the experts to lay claim to the crown. That does not mean that he was either qualified for his position, or represented a majority position in this nation. I heard the other day on a show that it is incumbent upon those of us who were outraged at Trump's behavior at the start of his administration to maintain that same outrage on his last day, lest we think that his behavior is normal.
 
No question that HRC was a horrible choice as a candidate, and she may have been the only candidate who was capable of losing to DJT. But don't underestimate DJT's power of ridicule. It seems like that is something that those Americans weaned on cage matches and WWE wrestling understand. They wouldn't understand satire or irony since it is beyond their comprehension level (yes, this is a slam at the uneducated, but at the same time it was the uneducated who provided the crucial support in 2016 for the fraudster.)
George N Romey Added Nov 20, 2018 - 12:55pm
I'd didn't say he was qualified but compared to the list of losers running against him he was more qualified than they were.  What you can't seem to understand is how so many Americans, including me are tired of memo points driven fakes.  HRC was the queen of fake.  She sounded as sincere as a 1950s used car salesman.  Trump points the finger in the eye of this outdated political model and it resonates with people.  Don't think so?  Go back and listen to Michael Moore pre election.  Trump was the ultimate "fu"  bomb they could lop at a bunch of arrogant, out of touch, clueless elites that can't seem to understand life for 90% of Americans.
Even A Broken Clock Added Nov 20, 2018 - 11:09pm
George - and those who wanted to poke their finger in the eye of the system have surely been disappointed by the actions of their leader who only wants to poke his finger in their eyes. At least that's the way it seems. So if both offerings in 2016 were putrid piles of feces, how do we move to a more productive path in 2020?
Jim Stoner Added Nov 23, 2018 - 12:56am
2018 showed that some have seen (if only the finger in the eye).  We are in a great position to challenge this incumbent and defeat him soundly.  It is not a meaningless question to ask what could be the right strategy to reduce the likelihood of some sort of repeat electoral disaster. 

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