For the Deleted Ones #2

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#1 has rolled down to a point of where it is slow to access, so here's #2.

Feel free to put your deleted posts here, but always reference the original intended post.

All I ask is no slandering of others. Justice must be applied equally, so since Ryan has been banned for his slander and name-calling, it must apply to all.

Wasn't seeing this post on the main page, so I am going to try re-editing and saving it again.

 

 

 

 

Comments

Nobody's Sweetheart Added Dec 3, 2018 - 3:49pm
For some reason, I find it ironic that a "safe space" has to be established on WB, LOL. I  miss the days of hit posts flying back and forth!
FacePalm Added Dec 3, 2018 - 4:12pm
Bill H-
i'm hoping to take a page from one of the Founders, who said that the freeman of America did not wait until tyranny had been accomplished by the establishment of precedent; they saw the consequences in the principle, and avoided the consequences by denying the principle.
 
The principle, in this instance, being that tyranny is to be opposed with main strength, whether that be a tyranny of deleting opposing opinions, posts deemed "off-topic" by pedantic tin-pot dictators, or the tyranny of insult, contempt, and ridicule.
 
After all, many people put much effort into typing out responses and/or linking relevant information, and to disrespect people who do this by peremptorily deleting them is just bullying.
 
IME, bullies only stop bullying when one or two things happen:
1.  They are met with overwhelming force to defeat them, or
2.  They are met with overwhelming negative community opinion, and the consequences that go along with that negative opinion of the bully.
Liberal1 Added Dec 3, 2018 - 4:26pm
FacePalm   3.) All of the above.
 
BTW, I was going to post my last comment that was deleted by the Cowardly Ryan, but I was so stoked by him deleting it that I wrote a post of my own so as to save it into perpetuity!  (I see his NPD and raise, dammit!)  
Liberal1 Added Dec 3, 2018 - 5:08pm
Cowardly Ryan, you wouldn't know the Constitution if I rolled it up and smacked you in the nose with it.  Now be a good dog and stop peeing on the floor of Bill H.'s post.
 
Liberal1 Added Dec 3, 2018 - 5:09pm




Ryan Messano Added Dec 3, 2018 - 4:46pm






Comment likely deleted from Illiberal1’s post.
 
Wat a crock. Throwing a temper tantrum because your filthy lies are deleted.






Liberal1 Added Dec 3, 5:03pm




I don't delete comments, Cowardly Ryan.  I'm not a hypocritical asshole like you are.

Bill H. Added Dec 3, 2018 - 6:04pm
 
There was a day when Ryan simply responded to comments with his "different" point of view. He then morphed into what I see as a child having a temper tantrum because things didn't go his way, and began slandering and demeaning everyone who didn't quite see things his way. Now he deletes many from his posts, yet goes out of his way to venture off to other posts to continue his slandering.
Ain't gonna happen here!
Bill H. Added Dec 3, 2018 - 6:05pm
Fmontyr (from Ryan's post)
Ryan will delete this, but keep dishing it out. There are actually a few reasonable users left here on WB that can deal with a discussion without resorting to namecalling, slander, and labeling.
Bill H. Added Dec 3, 2018 - 9:59pm
 
Jeanne - Saw your posts, and thanks.
Tryin to keep it real!
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 11:28am
 
Not seeing this post on the main page for some reason, so I am going to try the edit function to repost.
Liberal1 Added Dec 4, 2018 - 2:53pm
I had to switch from "Recommended" to "comments" before I could find it.
 
Anyways, I greatly doubt this will last the day:
 
"Liberal1, where did Ryan call you names?  You show yourself as hateful by using such names as "Cowardly" and "asshole".  I wouldn't blame Ryan if he called you names after you attacked him by slander, but I suspect he is more of a gentleman than that."
 
Sunshine Kidlet me ask you: 
 
If you raised your hand and swore to do your duty and then went full chickenshit and deserted your fellow service members by become a "conscientious objector" AFTER THE FACT, would that make you an oath breaker, aka a liar?
   
If you took that same oath and swore it before God, would that make you "virtuous", as Ryan claims to be, or a coward, like I think of him?
 
I was career military so I do take this sort of thing personally, especially when it involves people who like to misinterpret the Constitution, that they refused to fight for, but are just fine seeing others killed in their stead.  
 
I have more respect for people who stand up and refuse to defend their country from the get go then I do people who swear before God that they will and then run like a yellow dog when they themselves need to put it on the line.   To me that is the textbook definition of "cowardly asshole".
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 3:35pm
 
It may actually take a "like" to get this post in the mainstream, if someone doesn't mind.
I've seen this happen before, not sure why.
Spartacus Added Dec 4, 2018 - 4:45pm
I've heard of this disease -- when a 12-year-old greys early and starts wearing cheezy pimp suits with an open collar.  I think its called arrogantitist.
 
You made me chuckle on this one, Bill H, "Oh, if only I got more likes on this it would really make it mean something".  
 
You are really pathetic if you really are a grown man.
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 5:16pm
 
Bitch and moan as you do so well "Spartacus", but if it was you that did the like that put this back up, thanks! It worked as expected.
By the way, I always thought your glasses looked a bit goofy!
I really don't care about how many "likes" my posts receive, but for some crazy reason when a post doesn't show or just disappears, a "like" seems to bring it back out of the ozone.
Jeff Michka Added Dec 4, 2018 - 5:21pm
Speaking of pathetic, brave Fartacus, rightist hero, has to be critical of Bill H.  Fartacus is a woman hating jerk.  Gee Farta...why aren't you posting this crap on a Ryan or Mogg the Turd page where rightist love will greet your every word without question.  And both Ryan and Mogg the Turd are "teaming up" to rid WB of anyone they see as "liberal," since Autumn won't ban people because they say so.  Bill H exhibits some courage, ol Fartacus just displays his typical cowaedice, figuring rightist will be impressed over his "brave" screen name.  Uh uh, riiiiight.  Bet ol Mogg the dogfish is extremely impressed.
FacePalm Added Dec 4, 2018 - 5:27pm
Bill H-
Yes, i've noticed that it's a "like" which often gets an article moved up in the rankings, so i try to reserve my like until an opportune moment.
Looks like right now, you're at 22, so almost off the page, so a "like" it is.
 
I'd like to click likes more often, but found out it's a one-shot deal.
 
Stone-Eater Added Dec 4, 2018 - 5:56pm
Bill
 
I'm tired of this shit. If people delete my comments, so be it. I don't care anymore after more than 4 years here. It's NOT IMPORTANT and it doesn't affect my life. This ain't no kindergarden, and it if is, so be it again. In fact, it is no more than a constant repetition of the same issues by differenu sers, mostly new ones who can't use the search function because it's not functioning or they don't make the effort to find that out.
 
So - I'm interested in NEW articles about NEW subjects. Life stories, personal happenings (and the conclusion of that - mostly very interesting) and stuff that makes me KNOW the people and possible make friends. Social media, right ?
 
The nth article about climate change, Dump or -ism bashing tires me and makes me consider to just forget about the most stuff here and just ----
 
---play my nice new bass guitar. Because it's something NEW.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 4, 2018 - 5:57pm
Sorry for the typos again Bill :-)
TreeParty Added Dec 4, 2018 - 6:03pm
Michael B. - Start your own blog for "hit pieces" - leave WB for the civilized among us. Thanks!
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 6:08pm
Agreed, SEF!
TreeParty Added Dec 4, 2018 - 6:15pm
Bill H.,
   If you are actually deleting any comments that R. Mess tries to post here, I salute you good sir!!!
   Turnabout is absolutely "fair play". Ryan's disgusting hypocrisy certainly deserves a "time out"; as in, get the heck off this civilized thread, loser!  
Stone-Eater Added Dec 4, 2018 - 6:32pm
Tree
 
Don't worry. If Ryboy gets no coments, he will quit. But I have to defend him. He's a poor soul on a one-track-mind as one can get. He desperately seeks attention, and he thinks his POV is absolutely right.
 
I mean: We all think we are RIGHT, if not, we would not defend our POV. It's just...some LIVE on defending their POV to the extreme because they think their existence depends on that. They define their whole personality on that POV.
 
And when they realize that life don't work that way, they're lost. They have never learnt to see that life is standing on a crossroads and always need to redirect their position which usually comes naturally with age and life experience.
 
Zeitgeist is one thing. But there is a basic human empathy that has to be nurtured to your kids.
 
And then you get COOLER.
 
The advantage is also: When you're cooler, your kids will also be cooler. But LISTEN is more important than talk.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 4, 2018 - 6:36pm
BTW: If some people don't understand my clumsy comment: What I mean is:
 
Never think you're right. Because all others think the same. 
 
Try to realize that you're BOTH right but you have different ways of expressing THE SAME.
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 7:51pm
SEF - Well Put!!
 
TP: Myself and others are ignoring RyBoy. He is just a fly in the soup of WB. I am all for opposing opinions, but when one thinks that only they are right and slanders those who have differing views, they are worthless scumbags and have no place in society. There are others out here, also, but none approach the level of RyBoy.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 4, 2018 - 8:09pm
Bill
 
I just wrote an article on that. Might be clumsy as well, but I'm fed up :-)
Bill H. Added Dec 4, 2018 - 9:31pm
 
Ryan - Never post on my articles in the future.
This is your last warning.
FacePalm Added Dec 5, 2018 - 7:00am
Bill-
i'm taking the liberty of preemptively posting these here; they come from Mock Turtle's latest screed:
 




Jeffry Gilbert Added Dec 5, 2018 - 6:18am



What is the basis of your obsession to control? 
 






FacePalm Added Dec 5, 2018 - 6:36am



Great question, Jeffry.
Wanna bet it gets deleted?

Stone-Eater Added Dec 5, 2018 - 11:57am
Hey Face
 
Why should it be deleted ? It's in no way an insult. Just an observation. I mean, Mogg has good arguments on subjects, he maybe just likes so set rules...
FacePalm Added Dec 5, 2018 - 2:57pm
Stone-
Why should it be deleted ? It's in no way an insult. Just an observation.
 
Yeah, tell me about it.
 
I mean, Mogg has good arguments on subjects, he maybe just likes so set rules...  
 
Sometimes; other times, his "rules" involve deleting everything and everyone for no valid reason whatsoever.  If people take the time to type out a response, esp. if free of invective and demeaning adjectives, that work should be acknowledged, at a minimum, and replied to, as well, imo; instead, he refers to it as "cleaning up" his thread or "taking out the trash."  To me, this is just petty tyranny, an act revealing the character of a tin-pot dictator...and someone who should be kept as far from the levers of power as is humanly possible, like those good people in Vallejo in re: another poster here.
 
Your mileage may vary.
Liberal1 Added Dec 5, 2018 - 4:59pm
Mogg Tsur, in your latest of a long line of condescending AF posts you go on and on about people minding their own business, not "cluttering up" a person's post, being "civil" and not trying to stir up shit, yet here you are being an asswipe on someone else's post.  To me that is hypocritical as hell.  What it also is is an annoying "Look at me!  Look at ME!" narcissism.
 
BTW, are we suppose to honestly think you don't really mean "assholes" when you use "a******s"?   Is not typing a profanity, but making it crystal clear what profanity you are meaning somehow better, in your opinion?  If so, then you are f**king st*pid!
Liberal1 Added Dec 5, 2018 - 6:15pm
Well that's true about it only being my opinion that you are being an asswipe, Mogg Tsur
 
So to see if it only MY opinion, or if others share it, should we do a poll?
 
Is Mogg Tsur an asswipe?
 
__  Yes
 
__  No
FacePalm Added Dec 6, 2018 - 3:28am
There ya go, L1!  More evidence (not that you needed any) that he's a control freak to the max.  Now, he apparently wants to control how people vote, too!  i'd lol, but it's just too damned sad.  If he ever runs for any sort of public office, this evidence should be swiftly forwarded to his opponent.  Neither he nor anyone like him should ever get near any position of power over anyone else.  He shouldn't have a dog, much less a child.
Nobody's Sweetheart Added Dec 6, 2018 - 5:47am
@ TreeParty - "Michael B. - Start your own blog for "hit pieces" - leave WB for the civilized among us. Thanks!"
 
I had to say that out loud while mimicking the voice of a bitchy and petulant teenage girl. News-flash, TreeParty, or should I say, TP, which are also the initials of something I wipe my ass with and shoot boogers and snot into; WB isn't called "The Wild West of the Internet" for nothing. I have to thank you though, as you inspired me for other creative things, lol.
John Minehan Added Dec 9, 2018 - 10:37pm
"Zeitgeist is one thing. But there is a basic human empathy that has to be nurtured to your kids."
 
Yeah, you are right.
Wendy Bugliari Added Dec 9, 2018 - 10:38pm
Bill H.,
Guess you noticed I cant handle the article publishing here so just wanted to add another "class" addition beyond the "shell game" and into the "hell game" plan of "Active Measures" played WELL in USA.
Source material included where can be while some were combination with other researcher with ability to translate her home language as well government operations very specific to what shall be a wrap!
 
Please FEEL free to share experience you personally realized or disagree proof can be seen by knowledgeable reporting, cheers!
 
Many publications reported on the Russian government officials and organized crime members target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">purchasing the Trump-branded real estate and the money-laundering opportunities that these deals provided.
The focus of this article is not money-laundering or organized crime but the hybrid war, in particular, the Kremlin’s weaponization of money, religion and culture (or, in this case, subculture) and the establishment of complex networks of agents of influence.
According to the Atlantic Council, para-military groups target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">“carry the markings of Kremlin-oriented special operations:

target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">creation of localized networks;
target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">organization of loyal agents of influence within a targeted state.”

The strategy of recruiting, training and using ultra-nationalist and religious groups, para-military units and violent gangs has been used by the Tsarist Russia and developed by the FSB/KGB during the seventy years of the USSR reign.
The groups are used to suppress protests, threaten, and recruit new members.
Nationalistic, ultra-patriotic and orthodox religious ideas are combined with the Law and Order concept and packaged in gang-style attire and props, often complemented by hard rock music.
The narratives of a national hero, a savior, a strongman, Robin Hood — a just criminal — justify the behavior of the tyrant and enables him to break the law and commit crimes in the name of the people.
The appeal of slick and fashionable uniform, power, speed and adrenaline is used to glamorize the power.
The religious sentiment is added to sanctify the power and add the exciting feeling of crusade to the movement.
The underground culture is weaponized without being physically suppressed. This is one of a signature KGB tactic.
 
During the later stages of the hybrid war, these units can be mobilized for combat. In Crimea, similar networks were used to facilitate the illegal annexation of the peninsula, writes target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">the Atlantic Council.
Chris Cox target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">went on conservative morning show Fox & Friends to say that their intention was to create a “wall of meat” between civilians and protestors at the Inauguration Day.
The Kremlin often experiments on the Russian people before exporting target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">the hybrid war method to the international arena.
The Night Wolves is a precursor to the failed Spetsnaz, a more successful Bikers for Trump, and other groups that mushroom in abundance in today’s America.
Both the Spetsnaz LE MC “law enforcement” biker club run by the Russian secret agents reaching out to Trump and Bikers for Trump run by a non-biker, professional politician with multiple ties in the pro-Trump political environment, were founded at the sa
Wendy Bugliari Added Dec 9, 2018 - 10:55pm
Many similar operations are going on currently in preparation to the mid-term elections in November 2018, for instance, target="_blank">pro-Russian paramilitary “boot camps” in California, Washington and Oregon, and Russian target="_blank">militarized events in Pine Bush, NY, at the estate purchased with the money donated by the Moscow Patriarchate in the early 1960s and owned by the Russian Orthodox Church.
The German intelligence services target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">consider Putin’s bikers a hybrid war strategy.
It is critical to remember that the hybrid war takes place in the minds of people. When the behavioral patterns of individuals and masses are changed, the whole society is changed — and can be usurped. As Molly McKew states in a program article target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Gerasimov Doctrine, “the shadowy puppeteering at the heart of the [Kremlin’s hybrid war strategy] also makes it inherently fragile. Its tactics begin to fail when light is thrown onto how they work and what they aim to achieve. This requires leadership and clarity about the threat...”
As stated by the target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">Atlantic Council, the head of the Russian-American Congress, Igor Baboshkyn, target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer noopener nofollow noopener">warned the US Congress in 2015 that the Russian Embassy was focusing on diaspora groups to create a network of the US citizens who support the Kremlin’s geopolitical objectives.
Whether this goal is reached through religious groups, biker clubs, neo-Nazi or environmentalist organization, has no significance. The hybrid war strategy is to micro-target different demographics by designing customized messages and delivering slogans that appeal to each particular group.
Leadership is not reserved for the government or people in **************power.****************
 
It is up to each citizen to take time to get educated on the hybrid war situation by reading and fact-checking, and, once the information and the sources are verified, share it widely via social media and in person.
Next class (target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow">A Reuters review made in March 2017, found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida.)
BAD hombres NO! White Russians with $$? Sure!
 
Bill H. Added Dec 10, 2018 - 11:19am
 
Thanks, Wendy!
I read most of your links (other than the ones in German and Russian) and find the information quite reputable. I especially like this one, which relates pretty much to what has been known since the late 1950's and certainly still applies. Seems that we either forgotten or have been brainwashed to ignore their methods, which continue today at a faster pace. I suggest that like many other subjects, since it is negative news, along with being refuted by our present "leader", it will continue to be ignored and disputed by those who believe Trump can "do no wrong".
Most are not aware of the immensity of Trump's property dealings with Russians here in the US.
Bill H. Added Dec 11, 2018 - 11:20am
Response to Ken's article (which will most likely be deleted)
What-is-PBS-NPR-good-for-

PBS and NPR are on Ken's (and other's) hit list because Trump cut funding to these stations. Why? Simply because they occasionally air programming that is critical of him, his administration, and subjects that he personally disagrees with.
 
Getting rid of Public Broadcasting is yet another step in the direction of State TV and other government controlled information sources.
But that's what a dictatorship is all about.