Manafort, Mole or Moron?

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 It has been revealed that Paul Manafort, who now sits in a Federal Prison, convicted on 8 counts,  has been communicating with the President....most likely to let him know what Mueller is up to.  How will this work out for Manafort and his lord Trump?

Manafort has only fooled himself, as he is now in line for obstruction of justice, and he has no idea what Mueller knows except in terms of his own interviews with the investigators.

I think Mueller is onto these scumbags, and Manafort who originally refused to cooperate and then flipped, perhaps as a mole, is currently sitting in jail hoping that Trump will pardon him…..but how long will Trump last once Mueller finally reveals what he has found out? And how will Manafort escape state courts?

And keep in mind that Manafort was found guilty on 8 counts not by Mueller but by a jury. Trump cannot pardon him without doing himself lethal injury, as this will be flying in the face of the American public, which the jury represents.

For the truth is, Trump is backed into a corner because he knows that Mueller knows a lot…but he doesn’t know what it is. And now with the Democrats in a position to investigate and put even more pressure on Trump, he may just crack like Humpty Dumpty, and all the kings’ horses and all the king’s men will not be able to put him together again…and in fact, they do not want to. They want him gone. That is why the Republican leaders all support the Mueller investigation…hoping for compelling evidence to allow them to turn on Trump as payback for the way he has insulted and humiliated all of them.

He has no more friends….just co-conspirators, who can turn against him to save their own skins. Even his family is hiding out, hoping to be forgotten when the shit hits the fan, hoping to be out of sight.

In my view, Manafort, out of arrogance, has put the noose around his own neck, and if Trump is true to form, he will in time throw Manafort under the bus as he has everyone else. Trump is very close to being all alone….which is exactly the condition by which unwanted rulers are forced out. And those few now trying to help him are themselves the lowest of the law, dirty trickster Stone, Swiftboater Corsi, and convicted felon Manafort

And just today, it was announced that Flynn, one of the original liars about contacts with (and payments from) Russia (he sat next to Putin), will not be doing time because of the “substantial assistance” he gave to the investigation, meaning the dirt on Trump he revealed…..and this also sends a message that you can escape prison if you co-operate, a tool used to extract the truth.

Thus Mueller has brilliantly played his hand and Trump is left with screaming “Witch hunt! Witch hunt!” as more and more witches are exposed and the noose tightens around Trump’s neck, growing tighter with each desperate denial.


Jim Stoner Added Dec 5, 2018 - 12:32am
Powerful stuff!  I think Trump's "bad mood" is his recognition that the jig is up. 
I suggest negotiated withdrawal is the way to go:  he could agree to bow out and not seek or accept re-election, with the prosecution of his family in suspension for the remainder of his (lame duck) term. The alternative is the shameful, painful two-year series of exposures and invective which must occur.  Trump can still weasel his way through the term and avoid the pain of impeachment.   This will take some time to negotiate with Trump, so it should begin soon. 
Cullen Writes Added Dec 5, 2018 - 1:20am
What exactly is the crime we're expecting Mueller to uncover on Trump again? 
"Collusion" with Russia? Note: Manafort is in jail for crimes that have nothing to do with Trump and were committed years before the 2016 election. 
Bill H. Added Dec 5, 2018 - 1:21am
In reality, much of what is (and will) come out of the investigation was pretty obvious way back when to those who never doubted Trump's antics from the start of his campaign.
As we also see, it is still not to be believed by those who continue to support Trump and apparently believe (or at least want to believe) everything he and his backers say.
I may have been wrong stating that we would most likely find out shortly, as the outcome of the Flynn report seems to indicate that there may be several other investigations going on simultaneously that are not public knowledge.
I suspect one of them may be aimed directly at Trump.
Jim Stoner Added Dec 5, 2018 - 2:18am
Corrupt practices--offering to provide an object of value (like, say, a penthouse apartment) to a government representative, for other objects of value (like assistance in the election campaign).  That doesn't have anything to do with running for President or being President.  It's just an illegal business practice (US law) that any neophyte working in international business learns.
Continued flow of money laundering from Russian oligarchs. Illegal campaign contribution.  Probably something about the Saudis that isn't fully revealed yet.  Trying to keep it covered up.  (you know, Dick Cheney was much more effective at that) 
It's really just one thing:  Trump Organization is a criminal organization, and guess what?  He's still the head of it--hasn't recused himself at all, really. 
Let's see what Mueller has, then we'll go from there.  It looks like it's going to come out, not that the Republican Senate will ever give the green light on impeachment. 
Flying Junior Added Dec 5, 2018 - 2:43am
My understanding is that when Mueller accused Manafort of lying to investigators last week, Manafort voided his own plea deal.  Who knows if that is settled?  But if he doesn't start telling the truth, he is risking a stiff sentence.  He strikes me as a guy who is just dumb enough to think that he can stonewall Mueller and somehow get away with it.
In other words, he is the perfect soldier for Trump.  Some say Trump has to much to lose by pardoning Manafort.
Jeffry Gilbert Added Dec 5, 2018 - 2:45am
is a criminal organization
When it comes to recognizing criminal organizations those on the left should perhaps be listened to as they are experts at running them. 
Jim Stoner Added Dec 5, 2018 - 3:20am
I have to take that as a compliment, I guess.   I do know one when I see one. 
Jim Stoner Added Dec 5, 2018 - 3:22am
FJ--I believe Mueller is supposed to go public with a sentencing memo for Manafort sometime this week. 
Ken Added Dec 5, 2018 - 4:19am
I highly doubt that Trump pardons manafort - not only because there is no reason to, but because he can't pardon him for state crimes that were pled to.  Trump can only pardon federal crimes.
All of Manafort's crimes were committed a decade before he was even involved with Trump.  This is just silly.
Flynn I can see being pardoned, and he should be. Manafort or Cohen, nope.
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Dale Ruff Added Dec 5, 2018 - 9:44am
Cullen, you act "exactly what is the crime?" and clearly, you are aware that  Mueller has not yet issued his report and so we do not know "exactly."  Mueller's being tight-lipped  is part of his don't know, neither does Individual #1, which is part of what my article was saying.
That said, the possible  crimes would be:   conspiracy to rig an election (asking Russia to intervene),  solicitation of a crime (hacking by Russia), obstruction of Justice (firing of Comey, Sessions, etc), and  of course money laundering or other financial crimes.
I think solicitation of Russian hacking and obstruction of justice are already visible,  but with 12 of his top staff having denied contacts with Russia (and 6 pleading guilty, the other 6  claiming they "forgot" and thus filed incomplete disclosures), there is a mountain of evidence of a conspiracy of lies to cover up the truth:  contact with Russia....and why would they cover it up if it was all legal and above board?   That is for Trump and his team to explain, and I have never heard an explanation  to replace the obvious fact that  they didn't want the truth to come out and were serving up lies to the public and the FBI.
I think Trump has  made it clear what crimes were committed by doing them out in the open:  solicitation and obstruction being all but undeniable.
He asked Russia to hack...and he wasn't joking.
He said he fired Comey to take care of that "Russian thing."
He has hung himself.  And only true believers and blind followers will watch him dangling at the end of the rope  and continue to ask:  where's the evidence? What did he do wrong?  
Dale Ruff Added Dec 5, 2018 - 10:33am
Ken, Manaforts previous crimes, for which a jury convicted him, both serves to warn others of the power of the law and to  destroy his credibility.  As for recent crimes, there are two, which establish his status as both a mole and a fool:  lying  after agreeing to co-operate and being part of a witness tampering scheme involving himself and Trump.   
For Trump to pardon him...that is a double edged sword..the prospect of a pardon "Not off the table," said Trump,  giving Mueller the evidence he needs) could influence Manafort ("A good man...") to lie, but it also sets up Trump for witness tampering and Manafort for further  prosecution for lying.   
Those who lie for a living  are undone by the same means:  those who live by the lie die by the lie.  So Trump, whose entire career is based on lying, is now backed into a corner, and he has few viable choices left other than to keep repeating the same propaganda of "NO collusion" and "Witch Hunt," while  being damned if he pardons Manafort and damned if he doesn't.  That is why it is said that Karma is a bitch.  And telling more lies to cover up previous lies is the path to  karmic hell.
Liberal1 Added Dec 5, 2018 - 10:51am
I seriously doubt Trump will face the charges that are laid out in most of the current conspiracy theories.
What will happen, IMO, is that he and the rest of his cohorts will be brought down on tax evasion, or RICO act charges.  He is going to become the modern day Al Capone and the rest of them will become the modern day Chicago Outfit.
Bill Kamps Added Dec 5, 2018 - 10:54am
Manafort is a moron, separate from whether he is a mole for Trump or not.
Here is a guy that made millions dealing with the Ukraine, bought lavish homes, cars, etc, and didnt claim this money on his income tax.
He then allegedly tampered with witnesses, which got his bail revoked, and sent to prison.
He then was found to be using the internet and communicating in inappropriate means while in jail.  This caused him to lose his cushy  jail cell, and be sent to one with real bars like a real prison.
So yes, whether he is a mole or not, he looks like he is guilty of multiple counts of being a moron. 
Ryan Messano Added Dec 5, 2018 - 11:29am
Mueller ought to be being investigated for letting Hillary sell 20% of U.S. uranium to Russia on his watch.  He has no business investigating Trump at all.  The whole investigation is a sham, and it is Hillary and Obama who weaponized our intelligence agencies against Trump, a crime worse than Watergate.  If you liberals and Rino's weren't so dull and corrupt, no one in America would stand for this insane investigation.
Bill H. Added Dec 5, 2018 - 11:42am
Trump and his associate's game of using "shell" corporations to hide money movement to and from other countries is not as lucrative as it was in the past. There are many InfoSec and other organizations that use sophisticated methods to uncover, trace, and locate the origination of such companies these days.
What used to be the preferred method to move and hide money is no longer as secretive as it used to be. Some years back at the G8 summit, many world leaders made a commitment to provide an open database of such known companies in an effort to provide information so that international firms and developing countries to know who they were doing business with. 
Cullen Writes Added Dec 5, 2018 - 12:48pm
There is absolutely no evidence that Trump asked the Russians to hack the DNC (if they did at all). 
Why would he need to? If he just pulled off an unbelievable act to get the nomination, he was looking pretty good on his own. 
If the Russians favored Trump, and if they did the hack to help Trump, so what? That's no crime. 
By the way, John Podesta publicly said he clicked on a phishing email that a 12 year old could have put together. (Click here to confirm your stupid is that? Do we really want to go to war with Russia because our own people are so stupid?????) 
Where was the outrage when Sarah Palin got hacked in the 2008 campaign? Did they do a Russia collusion investigation on Obama for that? 
(And you've got the allegedly Cozy Bear / Russia intelligence hack that Dutch intelligence "watched happen"--sorry that sounds pretty stupid to me. 
And you've got Wikileaks who has basically said in not so many works that Seth Rich provided them with a big amount of DNC data as well.) 
Dale Ruff Added Dec 5, 2018 - 2:53pm
"“I will tell you this: Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Wikileaks was the conduit and part of the Trump campaign to crush Clinton.   The Seth Rich lie was implied  in order to form an alternative fact for the gullible.
Ryan Messano Added Dec 5, 2018 - 3:12pm
Another evil surmise by Democrats, Dale.  
Trump was clearly joking, though Hillary totally committed a crime in destroying her subpoenaed emails.  
Dale Ruff Added Dec 5, 2018 - 3:19pm
You are deadwrong. Go listen to the speech on Youtube.  Trump has a seroius tone and face, there is no punch line, and NO ONE LAUGHS.
Then before he claimed he was joking, he offered the explanation that he meant for Russia (which would have to hack to get the emails) to hand them over to the FBI (clearly contradicting what he said).  When that collapsed (it still implied the crime of solicitation), he invented the lie that he was joking, which you can disprove by  listening to his speech, the lack of comedic set up, and the absolute lack of laughter from the audience.
It was just a lie to cover up a crime, and how sad that people like yourself are defending the lie and thus the treason.
Ryan Messano Added Dec 5, 2018 - 4:01pm
He was responding to the brazen law breaking by Hillary. Stop focusing on him being facetious, and focus on the treasonous Hillary.  
You are so easily hoodwinked, it's frightening.
Ryan Messano Added Dec 5, 2018 - 4:02pm
Matter of fact, since you are impudent and impertinent, we need to establish you even know American history.  You are way out of your element, and have no business commenting on politics or voting.  You know far too little, and are a brainwashed nitwit. You definitely haven't got 10 history books in your home. 
TreeParty Added Dec 5, 2018 - 7:25pm
You know, Dale, you can just flick this R Mess off your thread like you flick a boofer off your finger with the little red x, which he richly deserves. Just sayin'.. It would absolutely improve the quality of the conversation...
Dino Manalis Added Dec 6, 2018 - 11:24am
 Mueller is wasting time and taxpayer money, so he simply charges people on lies and tax evasion.
Jim Stoner Added Dec 7, 2018 - 4:21pm
Trump seems to be terrible at keeping secrets.  He had some idea about the emails and what was coming, and that's how it leaked out of his blow-hole. 
Manafort is a mole...and a moron.  He's two, two, two M's in one.   Reference to Certs TV ad from '60's