Christmas, Is Christ Alive In You?

The exciting thing about Christmas is the purpose for which Jesus was born; the reason He came. He came that you might have life, the God-life, to the fullest. 

The Bible scripture 1 John 5:10 states - “He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son.”

 

Jesus didn’t come to establish a new religion; neither did He come to show us an example of how to live the good life. He came to make us sons and daughters of God, which is seen in the Bible scripture John 1:12 - “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:”

 

God’s desire for us to have His kind of life, and His plan, according to the Bible, was for Jesus to give us this life, which is seen in the Bible Scripture 1 John 5:11-12 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.”

 

Apostle Paul referenced something very powerful and significant about the Christ-life in us in the Bible scripture Colossians 1:26-27 - “The mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”

 

Have you ever tried to imagine what Christ living in a person really means?  Sadly, many people haven’t taken the time to really understand what that means to each one of us. If Jesus Christ, who opened blind eyes, unstopped deaf ears, gave the lame new legs to walk, healed the maimed, and raised the dead, truly lives in you, what should that make you? 

 

It means you’re invincible; empowered; and an extraordinary success; a victor forever, all in Him! This is what makes Christmas special; it’s Christ alive in you. He came for you, to live in you, and to live through you.

Comments

Eric Reports Added Dec 20, 2018 - 3:12pm
Christmas has become a holiday for gift giving.  I'm not sure if some children are aware of what it represents.  Some adults either.  Jesus Christ wasn't born on Dec 25, but that's what I celebrate it for.
Marty Koval Added Dec 20, 2018 - 4:07pm
Mogg Tsur:
 
Praising and thanking the Lord is something that all believers must do daily, hourly and sometimes by the minute. Why?  Because not only is it what we were made for, but it brings untold graces into our bodies and souls as well.  Praising God should be as natural to us as breathing or eating.
 
To thank the Lord is to thank Him for the things that He’s done for us and provided for us. The most important thing he has given us is His son, Jesus Christ. Without Christ and accepting Him into our hearts as Lord and Savior, we have nothing eternal. We need to have Christ in us and alive in us.
 
Praising the Lord, on the other hand, is even higher and more meaningful than thanking Him. When we praise the Lord, we praise Him for who He is and what He’s done apart from what He’s done for us. For example, we can praise Him for His redeeming death on the cross, His resurrection from the dead, and His ascension to the heavens. We can praise Him as the One seated at the right hand of God far above all rule and authority and as the One who is the Head over all things to the church.
 
Without having Christ in us, we are separated from the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Without Christ in us, we are doomed to eternal punishment in the Lake of Burning Sulfur.
 
To assure we keep Christ in us, we need to daily lay down our filthy crimson rags of human sinfulness at the foot of the cross. We fully surrender our self will for His self will. Pray that Christ will place His robe of righteousness that is white as snow over our heavy shoulder in exchange for our human sinfulness.
 
Without Christ in us and keeping Him there, our lives will be meaningless
Marty Koval Added Dec 20, 2018 - 5:11pm
Mogg Tsur:
 
As long as you have a personal relationship with Christ and are following His examples, it is definitely a good relationship. Keep on doing what is working for you. Your statement when you Reach out to Him, He'll be there: That is a very true and accurate statement.
 
The wonder of having Christ in us, is that He is always there for us when we call.
 
Have a Blessed day
FacePalm Added Dec 20, 2018 - 6:17pm
Marty-
i'm recalling a passage in the NT where He is to become One with us, where "as we grow less, He grows more," or similar.  Let me see if i can find it.
 
Ok, found it:
 
John 3:30
"He must increase, but I must decrease.”
 
After all, how is He to become "the all in all" if we don't voluntarily relinquish ourselves?  It is along the lines of "Not my will, but Thy will be done."
 
Right?
Marty Koval Added Dec 20, 2018 - 7:19pm
FacePalm:
 
John 3:30 (NIV) - 30 He must become greater; I must become less.
 
This was John the Baptist's pointed way of reaffirming his subordinate position to Jesus Christ.  John the Baptist also knew that people cannot follow him, and follow Jesus. If his message is working, people should be moving on from his ministry, and becoming disciples of Jesus.
 
This is the same situation that Christian leaders find themselves in. The goal of teaching and preaching is to lead people to follow Jesus. At some point, those people should grow and mature. The point of ministry is not to make the minister/pastor look good, but to help others in their walk with God.
FacePalm Added Dec 20, 2018 - 7:35pm
Marty-
Ok, maybe you'd like to take a shot at explaining these passages, from John 17:
10 "All mine are yours, and yours are mine; and I have been glorified in them. 11 And now I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one, as we are one."
 
and
 
20 “I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,[f] so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
Marty Koval Added Dec 20, 2018 - 8:30pm
Here is my take on John 17:10-11 and John 17:20-23 after reading over various commentaries:
 
John 17:10-11:
 
Was the Son literally inside of the Father so that they were one? Was the Father and His body inside the Son? Of course not—They were separated by how millions of miles of distance between where the Son was on earth and where the Father was in heaven. They were in union with one another in mind, in will, in purpose.
 
What were They doing? They were joined together in the accomplishment of the same purpose, and now Jesus prays that we might be one with Them in the accomplishment of the same purpose, having the same will, the same mind, the same character, the same hopes, the same goals, the same end in life.
 
John 17:20-23:
 
It is a measure of how important "being one" with the Father and Son is that, in this most important prayer delivered on the last night of Jesus' life, Jesus requested of the Father that we be "one with them" four times! In that sense, it is the most important request in this prayer that we become one with them.
 
Will a human being sacrifice for a good and moral purpose? Yes, we will if we believe God, and believe that He loves us. That last element is not easy, as it takes a lot of experience with Him to know that He loves us, and that He loves us every bit as much as He loves Jesus Christ. Notice what verse 23 says: "You . . . have loved them as You have loved Me." As means "equal to"! We have no trouble believing that God exists, but we have a great deal of trouble believing that God loves us. Yet, it is necessary for becoming one with Him, and returning that love back to Him. Human beings will sacrifice if they can get a good handle on their lives, believing God, and believing that He loves them.
 
Becoming one with the Father and the Son is accomplished through a number of factors, but none is more important for us right now than beginning to live as they live in preparation for being with them. No other way of life is acceptable to them, because no other way of life is in harmony with the way that they live.
 
FacePalm Added Dec 20, 2018 - 10:19pm
Marty-
Thanks for imparting your understanding of those passages.
For me, the Eastern Orthodox sums things up quite succinctly:
"God became Man so that Man can become God."
 
Of course, there are caveats: Christ is the vine, God is the Vinedresser, we cannot do anything apart from abiding in the Vine...and, of course, all must be IAW the the will of Our Father, not our own.
 
This is why, for me, John 3:30 is clear: i must decrease, and He must increase in me.
 
Many christians say that Jesus is God; yet Christ said, "These things that I do, ye shall do also; and greater things than these shall ye do, because I go to the Father."  So, what does this make us?  All of nature looks forward to the coming of the Children of God, why?  Why will the mountains and hills rejoice?
Flying Junior Added Dec 21, 2018 - 3:58am
Thank you Marty for a wonderful Christmas bible study.  It was a spiritual pick-me-up for me.  I love listening to the words of Saint John.  He made the Gospel so clear and so easy to understand.  What a blessing.  I hope you and yours have a nice little Christmas.  I'm guessing that you will be in church, if possible, on Christmas Eve.
Stone-Eater Added Dec 21, 2018 - 5:10am
Marty
 
Although I don't believe the meaning and spirit of his thoughts are within me, especially when I'm in Africa. Might sound strange, but it's how I feel. As I said, I don't think that all that was written about him is true, but the philosophy behind it is what I respect.
 
Happy Christmas to you !
Marty Koval Added Dec 21, 2018 - 8:37am
Mogg Tsur:
FacePalm:
Flying Junior:
Stone-Eater:
 
Thank you for your words of wisdom and kind words. One of my favorite scripture is John 14:27 - Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.
 
Merry Christmas
FacePalm Added Dec 21, 2018 - 10:01am
The Omnipresence of God is something that most humans lack awareness of.
It was Paul, if i recall correctly, who said "This is God, in whom we live, and move, and have our Being."  Those who call this principle into their awareness often are blessed by so doing.
Consider, for a moment, that all that lives, breathes, in one way or another, and in so doing, confesses their reliance upon that-which-is-greater...whether in ignorance or awareness, makes no difference.
 
When Christ said, "The wind blows where it will, and you hear the sound of it, but you know not whence it comes nor whither it goes; such are all who are born of the Spirit," He used a word which has 3 meanings: wind, spirit, and breath.
 
So, God is as near to you as your awareness of His presence with every breath.
 
Or not.
Dino Manalis Added Dec 21, 2018 - 1:43pm
 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  Christ gives us hope and endurance!
FacePalm Added Dec 21, 2018 - 2:25pm
When Christ said, "When they say to you, 'Lo, here!' or 'Lo, there!', do not go; for the Kingdom of Heaven is within(or "in your midst," both translations are applicable)," i believe He's referring to omnipresence.
 
When one contemplates this thing we call "Omnipresence," this means that there is literally no place where God is not: within, without, above, below, around, over, under, through, microcosm to macrocosm.  There are places and situations where He is MORE present, of course;  places where He is believed, by faith, to exist.
 
One article helps me to understand this principle better.  Here's a link.
What the author does not say is that this omnipresent field he describes can be the quite literal description from Genesis, also, in that after God finished creating, he "rested," this quiet, invisible-to-us, almost motionless Presence which makes what Tillich refers to as the "ground of being."  A framework of invisible Light, upon which galaxies are built - and all they contain.
Marty Koval Added Dec 21, 2018 - 4:35pm
The God of the Bible Is Omnipresent, Omnipotent, and Omniscient. God does all for His own glory, eternal, self-existent, need of no one, unchanging in perfections and purposes.
 
 
Omnipresent - God is all-present, or everywhere present at same time.
 
Jeremiah 23:23-24  - 24 Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?” declares the Lord. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the Lord. (Omnipresent)
 
Omnipotent - God is able to do whatever He wants to do.
 
Job 37:23 - 23 The Almighty is beyond our reach and exalted in power; in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. (Omnipotent)
 
Omniscient - God knows everything.
 
John 1:3 -  3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (Omniscient)
 
There are many false gods in this world, but there is only one true God. There are over 30 scriptures in the Bible stating this. Here are a few of them:
 
John 1:1 - 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
 
John 17:3 - 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
 
1 Timothy 1:17 - 17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
 
 
Marty Koval Added Dec 21, 2018 - 4:52pm
Mogg:
 
The Good News is if you accept Jesus Christ into you heart and follow His ways in lieu of your ways (or the ways of the world), you have the promise of eternal life.
 
John 3:16 - 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
 
1 John 5:13-14 - 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
 
Ephesians 2:8-10 - 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
 
 
Jeff Michka Added Dec 21, 2018 - 8:03pm
Ah, Marty takes a Geezus shower and reigns bible verses down to prove how pure and righteous, Marty is.  I have to go coordinate an artillery attack on some manger scenes foolishly put up on public property in a couple of local cities.  The Left will Win the WAR on Xmas!!!  Yeah!!!  Pray to gawd for a dogfish av pic, Mogg the Turd.
Marty Koval Added Dec 21, 2018 - 8:36pm
Romans 3:10 - 10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;
Jeff Michka Added Dec 21, 2018 - 9:14pm
1st Asshole 5:15:  As it's written, "...you are a worthless dumb fuck believing in sky guys that don't exist and never have.  What, Marty, you mean your sky guy hasn't made you pure and righteous?  You need to join the First Church of Ryan Messano."
Doug Plumb Added Dec 22, 2018 - 12:01am
re "We need to have Christ in us and alive in us."
@Facepalm re "John 3:30
"He must increase, but I must decrease.”
 
You are not a creature of reason, you have emotion. It is important, vital, for you not to be lead by your emotion.

re "After all, how is He to become "the all in all" if we don't voluntarily relinquish ourselves? It is along the lines of "Not my will, but Thy will be done."

Right? "
The NT is just the same message restated over and over again in different ways. No message could be more simple or more true. The common law is Christian government. Treating others as you would wish to be treated is rational law. It directly opposes Talmudic law in every regard. The term Judeo-Christian ethic will be laughed at as years to come and I'm sure will be part of a study in propaganda.

re "Thanks for imparting your understanding of those passages.
For me, the Eastern Orthodox sums things up quite succinctly:
"God became Man so that Man can become God."
 
That is the silliest thing I ever heard. Where did you get this idea?
Doug Plumb Added Dec 22, 2018 - 6:31am
Man cannot become God, its impossible according to theology. 2+2=5 may be a beautiful idea, but its still wrong.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 22, 2018 - 6:35am
re "so that WE could learn God's ways and become in tune with his wisdom and love"
 
That is not the same as becomming God.
Only Rabbi's consider their Talmud and religion to be God or above. When God runs into trouble he consults the Talmud according to the Talmud.
Man becoming God is not Christianity. God is reason itself according to Christianity.
FacePalm Added Dec 22, 2018 - 7:54am
Doug-
Perhaps if i re-phrase the statement of the Eastern Orthodox.
 
Do people think of Christ as God?
If so, what did He mean by "These things that I do, ye shall do also; and greater things than these shall ye do, because I go to the Father."
 
And:
 
John 17:
10 "All mine are yours, and yours are mine; and I have been glorified in them. 11 And now I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one, as we are one."
 
and
 
20 “I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us,[target="_blank">f] so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
 
Do you believe Christ was quite sincere when He spoke those words and prayed that prayer?
 
If so, it may almost be time for you to reconsider your label of "silliest thing i ever heard."  As for "Where did you get this idea?", you were already informed: the Eastern Orthodox.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 22, 2018 - 11:26am
No man is without sin. Christ was without sin. So man cannot become Christ or God.
We aim for these goals but never achieve them. Its an ideal.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 22, 2018 - 11:27am
Once man begins to think of himself as God, we eliminate God and live under statutory rule.
FacePalm Added Dec 22, 2018 - 3:43pm
Doug-
i asked some specific questions in my answer to you; it appears to me that you avoided answering them.  Would you like to try to answer them directly, forthrightly, without equivocation or dissimulation?
 
Thanks.
Marty Koval Added Dec 22, 2018 - 4:49pm
The true Church holds to the core beliefs of Christianity without subtracting or adding to them. Christ is the eternal God come in the flesh, there is one God and 3 distinct identities (persons) who exist simultaneously as the One God. The virgin conception, the sinfulness of man and the need of a savior, the new birth, the Gospel which is the death burial and physical resurrection, the second coming, baptism, eternal mediator and priesthood of Christ, the priesthood of all believers, the infallibility and inerrancy of Scripture, judgment and rewards to the believers.  These are the essentials that are clarified in the Scriptures.
 
If the Church one attends does not hold to these essential beliefs or added to them, they are not Christ's Church no matter what name they have on their outside or on paper. This is not my opinion, but the Bibles explanation what the apostles taught through the Gospels, the book of Acts, and in the Epistles of Paul.
 
There is one true Church, but it is not found in a certain denomination or group by itself.  Those who claim you must join their group or Church to be right with God, only prove they do not understand what the word Church or body of Christ means.  It is not exclusive but inclusive, as it is found in the heart of all those who have accepted the true Jesus, and have come to God the way He has provided (through His son on the cross), and hold to the essentials of the faith. Whether one is Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Charismatic, Pentecostal, or non denomination Bible Churches, etc. The Church transcends denominational barriers, it exists within denominations, as well as outside of them.  This is the Universal Church that has continued from the beginning of Pentecost. 
 
While denominations may have differences on peripheral issues, they do hold to the core beliefs that make them all part of the body of Christ, the Church.
 
As I mentioned earlier, there are some churches that have added things to their doctrine, that go against what the Bible says. The church denominations that do this are in error and are going against the true word of God. Be aware of them so you are not deceived.
 
FacePalm Added Dec 22, 2018 - 6:32pm
Marty-
i might have to disagree slightly, based on my experiences of "christianity."  The True Church - which is in the world but not OF the world - obeys Christ, not christianity, in both my experience as well as from my observation.
 
When Christ said - at John 10:
30 The Father and I are one.”
31 The Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus replied, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy, because you, though only a human being, are making yourself God.” 34 Jesus answered, “Is it not written in your law,[d] ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If those to whom the word of God came were called ‘gods’—and the scripture cannot be annulled— 36 can you say that the one whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world is blaspheming because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand[e] that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.” 39 Then they tried to arrest him again, but he escaped from their hands.
 
So, who am i to believe?  "Christianity," which denies the Truth of Christ's words, or Y'shua ha Maschiach, Himself?  Of course you know who i believe, and it's not "christianity" or the "traditions of the elders," either.
 
So if i wait for the Word of God to come to me, i trust that my willingness to be transformed, as well as my repentance, will qualify me to become One iaw Christ's sincere prayer, earlier cited at John 17.  Then, indeed, will i be able to do as Christ said, everything that He did and more besides - because it will no longer be "me," but the will of He who sent me, Christ who indwells, the author and FINISHER of faith.
Marty Koval Added Dec 22, 2018 - 9:12pm
FacePalm:
 
You are absolutely correct that the "True Church" is the one that emulates and obeys the words and actions of Christ. Churches that add or subtract from the words of Jesus and add or subtract from the Bible are actually false churches.
 
There are churches that say a priest, pastor or layman can forgive sins. This is false teaching. Only God can forgive sin, but people can forgive one another. We can forgive the person for what they did, but we cannot forgive them of sins against God.
 
The Catholic church says there is a Purgatory , “a medieval invention nowhere to be found in the Bible.” Per the Catholic church, Purgatory is a place that a Christian’s soul goes to after death to be cleansed of the sins that had not been fully satisfied during life. It's often called "a denial of the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice." This is false teaching at its worst. The doctrine of Purgatory is absolutely not in agreement with the Bible? Romans 5:8 states - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
 
There is no Purgatory in the Bible and there is no need for one.
 
There are some churches (Episcopalian, Evangelical Lutheran Church , United Church of Christ) that approve of same sex marriage. This is totally false teaching The Bible scripture Genesis 2:24 states - That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. The definition of wife in the Bible is not a male and the definition of a man is not a women.
 
All these false teaching are the work of Satan, The Great Deceiver and Father of Lies
Doug Plumb Added Dec 23, 2018 - 5:18am
@ Facepalm re answering your questions directly:
 
  I get my understanding of the Bible through Kant, not reading the Bible. I have read the NT and large parts of the OT. The reason I prefer to get my understanding from Kant is that he read the book in Greek and Latin and did not have any kind of agenda but truth, unlike kings and churches. The NT message is incredibly simple and repeated. The message is rational thought - the common law, the only way a group of rational creatures would govern themselves. And that is it. Nothing more.
  The message is so simple that many people miss it. Essentially Kant explains in in Fundamentals Of Metaphysics of Morals.
  I follow Christ through Kant, not the editors of the Bible. I think your above quotes are misquotes, the Bible is full of contradictions, I am told by a real religious scholar in person. This is not surprising. Not only were scribes plagued by an agenda, but mistakes by scribes in translations were common, especially missing sections.
  Roman common law is also another expression of Christianity, even though they worshipped Jupiter in some of it.
  Essentially I understand the message but don't truth the Bible. My reading list includes Lorraine Day's book "Who Rewrote The Bible". She has a youtube video on it.
 
  Your quote suggests that man can become perfect. This is not possible due to original sin. Man can only follow Christ, not be Christ.
 
Doug Plumb Added Dec 23, 2018 - 5:19am
re "Essentially I understand the message but don't truth the Bible." Sorry about that. The message is the truth, not the imperfect Bible.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 23, 2018 - 6:02am
The German idealists had it all right and the English Crown has been owned since before the King James. I also go to E Michael Jones and Michael Hoffman. Jews hate Kant for a reason and they hated Germany for a reason. What happened in Germany was not due to Germans being jealous of Jews, the popular scholarly understanding in our corrupted thinking.
Lorraine Day says the the Bible does not espouse a hateful jealous God in the original writings. One could understand the reason for the translations in the agenda of the PTB, to draw people away from God and toward atomism.
So the English bible is a little bit like the mainstream media. You have to apply common sense and be skeptical of what you read.
FacePalm Added Dec 23, 2018 - 9:55am
Doug-
Your quote suggests that man can become perfect. This is not possible due to original sin. Man can only follow Christ, not be Christ.
 
This is not what Christ teaches.  He prays most sincerely for us to become One with Him, and directly states that not only will we be able to do all that He did, but MORE than these things.  If you disagree, and wish to trust Kant over Christ?  Ok, to cite the Proverb, "If you are wise, you are wise for yourself; if you are foolish, you alone will bear it."  Trusting anyone more than Christ is quite inadvisable, but if that's your choice, you'll find your error, in time, God willing.
 
This is where the teaching of "He must increase; i must decrease" comes into play, and if you've read any writings of the Christian mystics, you would soon see this principle come shining through their words, as well.  i believe that even Paul grasped this principle, when he wrote something similar to "So it is no longer i, but Christ in me."  Or like Christ Himself said, "I can do nothing of Myself, but the Father within Me, He does the works."
 
i agree that the Bible contains many errors and internal contradictions; i've found several, myself, and others have pointed out many i missed, which is why, when i hear anyone calling the bible the "Word of God," i point to the beginning of the book of John, where CHRIST, not the bible, is described as "the Word."  He is infinitely superior to every bible ever written...and is to be trusted all the more because of this.
 
In fact, i often recommend that anyone who wishes to gain a more full understanding of the bible first immerse themselves in Christ's words, then view all the rest of the writings by ANYone through His lens - for He is the Cornerstone to which all must conform themselves, not He to anyone else.  Not even Kant, who himself would readily confess that he can't hold a candle to Christ.  Kant can't, iow.
Marty Koval Added Dec 23, 2018 - 12:06pm
All knowledge and wisdom that mankind posses comes direct from God, which is seen in the following scripture:
 
Colossians 2:3 -  in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
 
Job 28:28 - And he said to the human race, “The fear of the Lord—that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.”
 
1 Corinthians 1:19-20 - For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
 
Job 11:7 - “Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
 
1 Corinthians 1:25 - For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
 
James 3:17  - But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.
 
God wants us to have more than knowledge about Him.  He wants us to have wisdom.  Scripture tells us that knowing the facts is not enough, which is seen in James 2:19 - “You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!”  Simply put, it is not enough to know the facts but we all have a choice to make about God and believing in His word. 
 
A person will gain wisdom and understanding as they search for the truth about Jesus Christ. Meditate on His word today and gain true wisdom. Remember was is stated in Proverbs 28:26  - Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 25, 2018 - 5:26am
re "This is not what Christ teaches.  He prays most sincerely for us to become One with Him, and directly states that not only will we be able to do all that He did, but MORE than these things.  If you disagree, and wish to trust Kant over Christ?  Ok, to cite the Proverb, "If you are wise, you are wise for yourself; if you are foolish, you alone will bear it."  Trusting anyone more than Christ is quite inadvisable, but if that's your choice, you'll find your error, in time, God willing."
 
This sounds a little bit atheistic, as if God is in man and this counters the very basic message of Christianity.
Not only do I read Kant, but also CS Lewis. Both have humility as a basic message. I have also read it and listened to many online sermons. The NT basic message is slowly being destroyed. There are those that absolutely HATE the common law because it directly contradicts their absolute supremist doctrine and they have the power in our society. You have to be very careful what you read these days.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 25, 2018 - 5:30am
I hear many misunderstandings of Christ from those who read the Bible. Like most philosophy, only one idea is contained in the book. You read it to distill the idea. Kant's basic message is that the world does not exist as we see it therefore there is room for faith. He says Christianity is the best reflection of man's natural disposition as a rational creature and that all rational creatures would adopt the common law. The NT is just one long continuous warning of the Jew. Most people don't get that. Judaism and Christianity are very much opposite and if you don't get this, then you understand neither, despite being able to quote sections.
Marty Koval Added Dec 25, 2018 - 8:28am
Doug:
 
You are absolutely correct to say that Judaism and Christianity are very much opposites. The Jewish people are still looking and waiting for the messiah, which they missed over 2000 years because of their tainted beliefs.
 
When it comes to trusting, people should not trust in themselves. Do what is said in Proverbs 3:5-7- Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding;  In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil.
FacePalm Added Dec 25, 2018 - 3:16pm
Doug-
This sounds a little bit atheistic, as if God is in man and this counters the very basic message of Christianity.
 
Perhaps you need to refresh yourself as to the meaning of the word "Omnipresent."  This in no way "counters the very basic message of Christianity" but strongly confirms it, once the basics of repentance and baptism have been completed.
 
After all, if the meaning of "Omnipresent" is "present in all-that-is," how can God NOT be in man? 
Doug Plumb Added Dec 27, 2018 - 10:19pm
@Marty re "When it comes to trusting, people should not trust in themselves. Do what is said in Proverbs 3:5-7- Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding;  In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil.  "
 
That just means to trust in reason and truth.
 
Facepalm, I don't think you and I agree with what Christianity is. God is quite separate from man, and so is Christ. We have the holy ghost, but this is our conscience, how God speaks to us, not that we are him.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 27, 2018 - 10:20pm
Cheeto's, poisoned water and TV gave us the "Judeo-Christian" ethic. Its the most retarded thing I ever heard.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 27, 2018 - 10:22pm
Facepalm, Original sin separates us from the holy. We are empirical beings, in space and time. The holy is not space or time dependent. Christ was the form of God in the flesh brought into the empirical to speak to us.
Doug Plumb Added Dec 27, 2018 - 10:57pm
Facepalm, there are things of this world and not of this world. Man is of this world, man is the devil, not God. Man cannot be both the devil and God. If anything Christianity teaches us that man himself is the devil. Forget the Hellenistic view of things.