The God Helmet – Dr Persinger’s magnetic helmet induces feelings of mystical experiences.

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The God Helmet – Dr Persinger’s magnetic helmet induces feelings of mystical experiences.

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People wearing Dr Persinger’s God Helmet report feeling a presence, seeing Angels, even experiencing God. It seems to produce mystical experiences in a lot of people.

 

Seemingly stimulating the brain releases these feelings.

 

They are not real. They are induced through magnetic stimuli.

 

Dr Persinger suggests we are stuck within a climate created by our belief in mediaeval religious doctrine. It seems it has been culturally implanted in our brains.

 

These experiences are not real; they are the result of artificial excitement of specific areas of the brain.

 

Perhaps people that experience mystical experiences merely have over-excited cortex’s.

 

God, Angels and mystical experiences, no matter how real they may appear, are probably nothing more than brain hysteria.

 

I’ll stick with being an antitheist for the time being thanks.

Comments

The Burghal Hidage Added Feb 4, 2019 - 8:28am
Similar results with Red Fly Agaric, Psylocibin shrooms, Salvia Divinorum, Peyote and a host of other organic toxins. Almost all associated with religious ceremony or ritual at one time or another. I believe you are correct with the associations culturally implanted... it's seems as scientific as any of this could be.
 
I also believe, however, that Jung's collective unconscious is a valid thing.  Many of the Native American mythologies surrounding their mystical experiences with hallucinogens are similar to those arising from ancient Sumerians and other cultures from all across the globe.
 
An interesting piece Opher :) I'd not heard of this thing before.
Dino Manalis Added Feb 4, 2019 - 9:08am
 Maybe, some claim to see divine revelations even without the helmet.
opher goodwin Added Feb 4, 2019 - 12:18pm
Burger - yes I've experienced a number of mystical moments myself. Brain chemistry is a wonderful thing.
I like Jung too. I was very taken with that idea of a universal mind - a collective consciousness. I think that has some legs.
The Native Americans, like most humans, experimented with all manner of psychotropic substances that they used in many rites. Those peace-pipes sure carried weight.
I find this whole area fascinating. It's all in the mind! Maybe the mind is all we have?
opher goodwin Added Feb 4, 2019 - 12:19pm
Dino - yes they have - brain chemistry is amazing - all consciousness is in the head. Our appreciation of the world is purely chemical as is all our reasoning and understanding. The brain is a wondrous culmination of evolution.
Kristen Foley Added Feb 4, 2019 - 4:34pm
“I’ll stick with being an antitheist for the time being thanks.”
 
You’re an antitheist because a deranged man believes he can talk to God?  I believe in God because it makes sense to me that some being created the universe.  If you want to believe that the universe suddenly came to be, that’s fine to.  But please, don’t make it sound like those of us who believe in God also believe in such a thing as a God Helmet. 
opher goodwin Added Feb 4, 2019 - 6:44pm
Kristen - I don't suggest that people who believe in god also believe in a god helmet. For me the experiment reveals a bit of the essence of believing in god and mystical experiences - it's a centre in the brain being stimulated. What that means is debateable.
The very reason you cite as making you believe is one of many things that convince me there isn't a god.
The creation of our universe with the big bang is an amazing event that is probably impossible for the human mind to comprehend - but we try. Science tries to fathom it out and fails (up until now - and probably always). Science creates theories but maybe will never solve the conundrum of how something came out of nothing.
That is weird and beyond our abilities to conceive.
But to answer that piece of weirdness by suggesting that something must have done it. Is even weirder and, from my point of view, simplistic human thinking - we don't understand so god must have done it.
This god business creates more impossibilities than it solves.
god creates the universe - therefore god is much more complex, sophisticated and powerful than the universe. She can create something out of nothing.
But where did this even more complex being come from? Who created her? What was she doing before the universe was created? Who created her? Where was she when nothing existed? Why is there no evidence of her? Why are her creations so imperfect?
All the idea of god does is kick the can further down the road and answer nothing.
At some point in time everything was created out of nothing or else everything has always existed.
All the god helmet does is show that mystical experiences can be induced in human brains but they are not real, they are merely stimulations of an area of the brain - a psychosis, a delusion, an illusion.
The Owl Added Feb 4, 2019 - 10:22pm
May I suggest that your experiments with brain chemistry was what took you over the edge.
 
Perhaps twenty-to-thirty in a silent monetary would set you right.   You might have a chance to come to some sort of amicable agreement with your subconscious.
 
But then again, you might emerge as addled as you are now.
 
I doubt, however, that they would allow you your own personal spyglass as you might set your straw bedding slight trying to get a better look at the insects crawling through it.
 
 
Flying Junior Added Feb 5, 2019 - 3:09am
How can I get one of these helmets?
opher goodwin Added Feb 5, 2019 - 3:31am
Owl - that's addled is it? Someone obviously pissed on your cornflakes this morning. OK.
Mathew 7:5.
opher goodwin Added Feb 5, 2019 - 3:32am
FJ - I know not - but it would be fun to try though wouldn't it? Though I suppose there's always the danger of it being addictive and you become a religious fanatic like a few on here.
Leroy Added Feb 5, 2019 - 10:25am
Here's the Russian version of it.  It makes you throw up as well as hallucinate.  Maybe we should call it the Devil Light, since it is the Russians ;)
opher goodwin Added Feb 5, 2019 - 11:20am
Hi Leroy - doesn't seem like any equivalent thing to me. Where's god in that? A physical dialogue with the porcelain telephone.
Leroy Added Feb 5, 2019 - 11:37am
Like the helmet, Opher, it causes hallucinations.  The visions are more likely those of the fallen angel Satan as they throw up.  It uses high-intensity light rather than a magnetic field.  It seems equivalent to me other than the experience is less pleasant.
opher goodwin Added Feb 5, 2019 - 12:01pm
I'm not sure the visual effects are hallucinations. They sound more on a par with strobe lighting and visual disorientation to me.
rycK the JFK Democrat Added Feb 5, 2019 - 3:12pm
Magic mushrooms along with a few shots of tequila will produce all this and more.
opher goodwin Added Feb 5, 2019 - 7:40pm
rycK - quite probably. Stimulates the same parts of the brain. The question is why?
Kristen Foley Added Feb 6, 2019 - 9:28am
I’m not interested in your list of reasons for there is no God.  This article was in regards to some wacko that believed he could speak to God via a helmet.  You then made a concluding remark about you sticking with being an antitheist.  The two, your decision to be antitheist and a man who invented a God Helmet, have nothing to do with each other.  After all, I believe in God and think a God Helmet creator is a wacko. 
opher goodwin Added Feb 6, 2019 - 10:21am
Kristen - did you read the article? It is not about some wacko who speaks to god via a helmet. He was using a means of stimulating the brain and found that it produced mystical delusions. Somewhat different. Not a wacko.
I'm sorry that you find it threatening to discuss belief and it's sad that you're not interested in other peoples' views. Never mind.
The point of the article was to discuss the weirdness of how stimulating the brain could cause such strange religious experiences. 
White Hair'd Added Feb 7, 2019 - 8:40pm
This is not really a commentary on Dr. Persinger's helmet. (Is it?)
This is a quiz.
 
A) There is no god, there is only opher.
B) There is no opher, there is only god.
C) A measurable truth of A+B above, found only by those who seek.
D) I don't know/I do know.
E) I believe it/doubt it.
Katharine Otto Added Feb 7, 2019 - 10:08pm
Opher,
I don't know about the helmet, but I think magnetic therapies have a future.  I'm intrigued about the magnetic lines of force in the earth, and the fact that there's so much iron in our blood.  And, there's MRI.
 
It makes me think about dream imagery.  I'd like to develop the knack of lucid dreaming and of flying and doing super-human things in dreams.  Maybe somebody could invent a helmet for flying dreams.
opher goodwin Added Feb 8, 2019 - 7:16am
Katharine - they probably have! I like lucid dreaming. Don't do enough of it.
opher goodwin Added Feb 8, 2019 - 7:17am
Luther - you could be on to something here. The only thing I can ever be sure of existing is myself. I believe Descartes said that.
John Minehan Added Feb 8, 2019 - 3:43pm
"Dr Persinger suggests we are stuck within a climate created by our belief in mediaeval religious doctrine. It seems it has been culturally implanted in our brains."
 
Given it is a response to magnetic stimuli, it is likely to be something far older than that, possibly something intrinsic to human consciousness; almost like an internal diagnostic in FIREFINDER that generates false targets if the system has to track too many targets. 
opher goodwin Added Feb 10, 2019 - 6:09pm
John - depends what parts of the brain it is triggering, doesn't it?