WHEN DOES THE USEU STOP TO INSTALL PUPPET GOVERNMENTS ?

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Guaido. A Harvard guy, 35 years old. Hmmmm.....

 

Ok. Now bash me, Americans, sorry I mean, citizens of one country on the so-called American continent "America". What's the native name for the whole thing ? At least the Canadians allowed their Inuit their place called Nunaqvuut. Remember Erik The Red was in what was later south of New York about 900 AD, and the Spaniard/Italian ? AMERIGO Vespucci was quite late in his lessons. 

 

There was a guy called Chavez in Venezuela, and his successor Maduro just now wanted to get independent of the world leader USA, the UN, the IMF and World Bank, rating agencies etc. which of course are also led by the world leader. So the newly elected guy after Chavez (CRY FREEDOM NOT A REGULAR PRESIDENT!!!)  was Maduro. Like in the Maidan the US-led coalition cried FAKE ELECTION!

 

So what ? It's THEIR fucking business, ain't it ? Not the one of the US or the EU !

 

....hmmm...Bush 2000 Florida

 

...continued the same agenda. Oil is state controlled. Well...what to do ? Get some sanctions on any imports, and then the people will be so fed up and they will support a guy who is either an old Goldman Sachs empoyee or has been studying in the US and is therefore, Same as Russia. If you don't behave, wherever you are, we sanction you, and btw. we don't accept Den Haag. Any US citizen will be persecuted for a crime abroad will result in sanctions of that country.

 

WE DON'T RESPECT ANYTHING BUT OURSELVES. WE HAVE THE MILITARY POWER. GOT THAT ?

 

 

...and "god" on our side LOOOL

 

....oh, in no way influenced......I mean the US$ is cool, secure, and then business FOR ME is guratanteed, Get into power, do what the US wants, have a go on the pot in banks.

 

Like in Africa.

 

Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Yougoslavia. Libya, Grenada, I don't know how many exactly. The US does NOT want independent countries as long as they don't are TO THEIR SERVICE.

 

I support Maduro. Why ? Not because I think he's a good guy. But the US has never done an interference in other countries that made the people gain something but their own economic interests.

 

And that's why most of the world doesn't trust the United States Corporation anymore.

 

Sorry to be so frank. Not against YOU guys. But I'm so fed up with a country which is

 

a) barely 250 years old

b) who consists of immigrants who come from countries they now fight or detest

c) and thinks it has the wisdom to know better than places that have a history of thousands of years

 

Be aware that you don't live in a country and you don't have a natural grown identity. You are TOLD you have one - to serve a giant industry in all aspects that uses you as a consumer or soldier abroad to keep the personal profit of some elite "long-term thinking" people.

 

You are, as we Europeans are, in current times, victims of financial influence and propaganda of a few who don't care about the Vets of the future - in either camp.

 

And Guaido in Venezuela is just another tool in that web. To keep this order in place where 95% of the world population fights for survival and the 5% have fun watching how we fight each other using terms and -isms.

 

Divide and rule. How old is that ?!?

 

Please think about it, friends !

 

Comments

Stone-Eater Added Jan 30, 2019 - 1:30pm
BTW: 
 
I ask one question: Is the US ready to quit the US$/oil hegemony and accept BRICS ? If no, there is no question anymore on my part. Because that simply means that the US has not given up the dream of being the successor of the late British Empire, at least....
Tom C. Purcell Added Jan 30, 2019 - 1:52pm
The U.S. Government no longer represents the American People.  As far as Trump is concerned, I think he's trying, to some degree.  I don't have all the faith and confidence in the world in him, or anyone for that matter.  But America and Americans are almost polarities nowadays.  I mean, sure, some people are sheep no matter what, and will file in to one side or another, but Americans voted for immigration control, a wall.  All we get are threats of more taxes and otherwise, the status quo.
 
This is the 'Divided States of Zion', more or less, and no longer the 'United States of America', not in principle. 
Dave Volek Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:21pm
I think you stole Tubularsock's next article.
 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:28pm
Tom
 
The U.S. Government no longer represents the American People.
 
Thanks. That's what we think here. That's why I call the US the USC and the EU the USEU.
 
I'm saddened about what happened to the US "yellow vests"...or... "We The People".
 
Americans seem to have a narrow time frame or - they are satisfied with their life in general. So the conditions of life must be ok for most. If not...why the fuck are there no mass protests ?
 
I really have no idea.
Tom C. Purcell Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:38pm
Well, it's very well-crafted propaganda to put it bluntly.  Like you say, 'divide and rule'.  They pit us against each other so that we don't unite, amass and march on D.C.
 
All it takes is the right leader with a megaphone though.  But they silence everyone with the power to do it.  Grass-roots movements are extinguished as a priority and the community leaders, silenced and worse, even framed and murdered.  
 
They fear the truth.  But the truth is detectable for free-minded individuals.  The Yellow-Vests are a prime example of a mass of people who are tired of being fed propaganda - they've detected a long line of untruths and are exclaiming to the European establishment that "we are Europe" - and they are.
Dino Manalis Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:42pm
 Venezuela is in crisis and people are fleeing because of terrible economic and political conditions.  Maduro is the problem and has become a dictator, he has to leave and the Venezuelan people should choose another leader to restore democracy and prosperity.
Neil Lock Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:47pm
Tom Purcell: You're right in what you say here. Free-minded individuals can distinguish truth from lies. That's why the liars hate us so much.
ChetDude Added Jan 30, 2019 - 2:57pm
Venezuela is "in crisis" and people are fleeing** because the Venezuelan people allowed USAmerica's oil to be located under their country -- PERIOD.  Silly Venezuelans, they should have learned from the mistake of the Arab oil nations when they allowed USAmerican oil to be located under their sands...
 
** Of course, over the years more people fled right-wing oppression in Columbia and were sheltered by Venezuela than have "fled" the other way.
ChetDude Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:00pm
Dino: The Venezuelan People just chose their leader in one of the cleanest and fairest elections on the Planet by 67% with about the same percentage of voter turnout as the USAmerican pResidental reality-tv election of 2016...
 
Time to buy another meme...
Gerrilea Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:01pm
Stone Eater--- Ya know, I was considering writing something similar, but not so....so...."stream of thoughtish".
 
Ugh, my government has spent trillions to destabilize, destroy and install puppet regimes that went on to kill millions all over the planet.
 
We're not supposed to talk about it, "We're bringing them Democracy", don't ya know!
 
We've been under siege ever since then end of WWII, we just don't know it.  Since 1979 we've been in a perpetual state of emergency and no one talks about it or even understands it.
 
The truth is always the first thing to be destroyed in war.
 
Well, Stone E, please know that most of us really haven't come to the understanding that we do not control our government or the criminal sycophants that have infiltrated every level of it.
 
Our government has committed so many crimes against humanity, its truly unspeakable, some days.  Thank the Gods, someone is keeping score for us.
 
I honestly share in your outrage.
 
Tom C. Purcell Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:04pm
Neil, 
 
Thanks, I think.  It depends on who you refer to when you say "us".  I know that certain liars definitely fear me and hate me.  I can't speak for you.  But maybe "us" is the West, or the U.S., in which case, I disagree with your statement and its vagueness.  
 
So I ask you to clarify, please...
Stone-Eater Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:09pm
Dave
 
No I didn't  ! TUBE !!!! No (c) in there !
 
No. frankly, I'm just a bit heated up about that newest try for regime change. It worked in Ukraine quite cover-up more or less, but now with that psychopath Bolton in the Trump, or Pentagon, group even a first-class idiot remarks that the US has gained the status that...
 
...they don't even have to cover up the agenda.
 
And the rest of the world is afraid and nods.
 
I just say that Venezuela is (?) an independent country and no outside asshole, whoever that is, has the right to
 
a) sanctionize it because their political system doesn't suit them
b) try to take over the control because of natural resources
 
What would the US say if the Chinese or the Russians would interfere in elections in Guatemala or ------ Venezuela by openly supporting a guy who had studied in Russia and would declaring himself "interim president" ?
 
BULLSHIT !!!
 
If this youngster puppet Guaido is elected, the Supermarkets will be full again and the people who have no fucking idea about the agenda will hail him. Why ?
 
But when he's in power, the US is indirectly in power, embargos will be lifted, and ..... people will be happy to be exploited by another clique of globals. 
 
And the Kissinger/Brzezinski doctrine will have another piece of their puzzle completed.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:20pm
BTW:
 
You guys really have imported the most evil people from Europe that put some strange ideas in your mind.
 
Lippmann
Von Braun
Oppenheimer
Bohr
Kissinger
Bezezinski
 
...and many more. What you did NOT consider is that these people were never fond of the first US values according to your so-valued constitution. You were naive and gave in to an industry that never cared about the people. 
 
You are still naive. One can never be accepted by fear. A real leader has to act differently. Not by threats and weapons.
 
Delete the MIC, the NSA and other national threats. THEN you can say "We the people".
Stone-Eater Added Jan 30, 2019 - 3:33pm
Gerri
 
Well, Stone E, please know that most of us really haven't come to the understanding that we do not control our government or the criminal sycophants that have infiltrated every level of it.
 
Bad excuse !
 
Take the streets ? Remember 69 Vietnam ?
 
Maybe watch alternative media in combination with MSM ....or is that censored ?
 
Could be. Can you recommend me a George Carlin of today and a new site ?
Gerrilea Added Jan 30, 2019 - 4:14pm
Stone E--- I don't watch tel-lie-vision.
 
And no, I will not take to the streets.  I have and it's done nothing. Besides, you may not know this but right now, in my town, we have a State of Emergency and the temperature is -13, windchills are -45.
 
You need to accept that humanity lost the battle decades ago.  The only thing we could do today is lead in insurrection and hang the bastards.
 
Wait 'till the good old boys realize they're taking the guns.  Hell will begin.
 
Mustafa Kemal Added Jan 30, 2019 - 7:01pm
Stone Eater, you just dont understand.
 
It time to start freeing the shit out of some people.

We gotta make the world Safe for Democracy!
 
Trump recognizes Guaido as the President of Venezuela, LOL.
 
Mustafa
Ric Wells Added Jan 30, 2019 - 8:22pm
Native name. WSHBAW. We should have built a wall. LOL.
Leroy Added Jan 30, 2019 - 8:51pm
Let it be a lesson.  Venezuela screwed the international oil companies and made itself into a socialist country.  Like one would expect, the socialists couldn't find a hole in the ground, much less oil.  
 
Venezuela has continually poked Uncle Sam in the eye.  It's another country that gives colonialism a good name.  
 
Both Russia and China are hyenas feeding on the corpse trying to get their hands on the oil that properly belongs to mostly American oil companies.  We'll eventually have to take a stand against China.  It's as good a place as any.
 
So, let it be a lesson; don't muck with capitalist countries.  Screw'em and they will eventually have their revenge.
 
Don't cry for me, Venezuela!
Jeff Michka Added Jan 30, 2019 - 9:12pm
Ol 'rilla is back to her gun shit and how does that affect you. 'rilla?  Your entre on WB was all about guns, and you talked big about defending yourself from the masses pouring over "open borders," which, I'll point out you gave cites for that didn't exist, were edits and nothing of substance, and in not believing your wikipedia scrubs, I was a real bad guy.  After the NRA had it's Russian cover blown, you came back to WB and made a comment for unknown reasons you "didn't have guns," so it's all noise from you.  Will Butina move in with you after her trial?  Will both of you write a 2nd Amendment for the Russian constitution?  I'm sure Vlad will approve. And ol freedom loving Leroy wants Venezuela to impose American "democracy", stop being socialists and just do what they're told.   Hey, Leroy, was that your suggestion for Allende in Chile, too?
Ryan Messano Added Jan 30, 2019 - 9:38pm
 
Stone is simply suffering from America envy.
The Owl Added Jan 30, 2019 - 9:42pm
Mogg...I will dispute that Switzerland is a shithole of a nation.  It is not.  It is a lovely country with intelligent, engaged people.
 
That being said, throughout modern history, the Swiss have hidden behind their the mountain ranges and commanded the passes so as to deny the invaders access.  And they have hidden behind those same defenses while taking political potshots at anyone and everyone that suits their fancy and being oh-so-silent when things become inconvenient.
 
Their entire existence is predicated on being invulnerable from attack...And they have used that isolation to evade being truly engaged in the world in ways other than being the refuge for stolen cash and other valuables.
 
If you want to see corruption in the world of finance, you need only look to the lofty mountains of Switzerland and the large international banking system that their "neutrality" has allowed them to create.
 
Sorry, Stone-Eater, your tirade is a day late and a dollar short.  If you want to hide your looted billions, Switzerland is the place to do it.
 
 
 
 
Tom C. Purcell Added Jan 31, 2019 - 2:20am
Mogg,
 
Yes, my proclamation is accurate, to millions of Americans.  It might have nothing to do with the President, and everything to do with the "deep state".  I don't exactly know.  But we have a big problem with politicians doing nothing but fill their own pockets at the expense and peril of the people their elected to serve and protect.
Tom C. Purcell Added Jan 31, 2019 - 2:21am
(they're)
Neil Lock Added Jan 31, 2019 - 4:09am
Tom: When I said "us," I meant free-minded individuals. Those who are able to tell truth from lies become hated by those that live by lies.
George N Romey Added Jan 31, 2019 - 6:57am
The US installs puppet leaders, said puppet leaders no longer are in the interest of the US deep state, said puppet leaders are either taken out or their country starved and maybe even bombed to death.   For example, Iraq.
 
This is the world order of the elites.  
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:52am
Mogg and Messie
 
If you would ever know anything about the world outside of your front yard you wouldn't write such bullshit.
 
Period.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:53am
George
 
Right on.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:53am
Same goes for Tom.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:54am
BTW Mogg:
 
Have you ever been in a shithole country ? I guess no. Because IF, you would find out what a shitass you are.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:00am
Owl
 
Thanks. It is true. We are Hypocrits..
 
 
If you want to see corruption in the world of finance, you need only look to the lofty mountains of Switzerland and the large international banking system that their "neutrality" has allowed them to create.
 
Sorry, Stone-Eater, your tirade is a day late and a dollar short.  If you want to hide your looted billions, Switzerland is the place to do it.
 
Talk about Apple, Microsoft, Walmart, Delaware, Virgin Islands, Bahamas, the Channel Islands etc.
 
Now...we're ALL hypocrits, no ? Admit it. But not Little Joe or Hoss or Heidi are hypocrits at the start....one never knows if they get into a position where they can profit.....do they still defend human rights and equality ?
 
Human attributes.
 
Think about it :-)
 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:04am
Mogg
 
Stone-Eater, what a simplistic, blithering waste of words from the citizen of another shithole nation pretending to have something to say about America.
 
Oh, shake your spear, brother ! Or is it a lovely wind I'm feeling ? It doesn't get to my bones, but nevertheless, I would like to invite you for a holiday in our shithole and I hope your Medicare will help you for the way back LOL
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:12am
BTW Mogg
 
I let your blather stand. But your comments here show that you're in no way the "teacher" you want to appear. Your emotions unmask you, man. Admit that you're just a lonely frustrated guy behind the keyboard who uses Thesaurus to find appropriate words to make you appear intellectual.
 
No. 2 on the back. Work on getting no. 1, but this don't work.
 
The shame corner is the third on the left.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:18am
Chet
 
Silly Venezuelans, they should have learned from the mistake of the Arab oil nations when they allowed USAmerican oil to be located under their sands..
 
LOL. Good one !
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:25am
Leroy
 
Do I understand it correctly that you say that only capitalist, means neoliberal governed countries...
 
don't muck with capitalist countries.  Screw'em and they will eventually have their revenge.
 
are the ones who have been spoon-fed wisdom ? Well, maybe the US is a paradise then. Europe is not. How can you reduce a population, its history, its heritage to an -ism ?
 
When you say, capitalism is good for YOUR country, that's ok. But that does NOT mean it counts for the rest of the world. But let's leave it at that. I know the slums of Accra, Lagos, Dakar or New Delhi to know that capitalism may be good for some, but for the ones which "god" didn't bless with a high IQ it's no fun LOL
 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:27am
Jeff
 
Maybe we don't have a front yard.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:35am
All
 
You see, what some of you don't understand is that no ideology should prevent people to have an equal education and the same chance to get forward in life. 
 
Thing is that cleverness, place of birth and the postition of your family, and therefore the NETWORK you have at the start, will decide your future. Not YOU in the first place.
 
And no political ideology from anarchy to capitalism to socialism to whatever will change that. In the end there are ALWAYS people ruling that had a good head start. And they pee on ideologies. Wealth rules, not ideology.
 
Not the McDonalds girl at the counter.
Johnny Fever Added Jan 31, 2019 - 11:50am
What does the acronym USEU stand for?
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 11:55am
Johnny
 
USA-EU.
 
Same club :-)
George N Romey Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:07pm
SEF which is why the do gooders that think there is a plethora of kind and benevolent princes and princesses ready to rule the world with a kind heart have the intellectual capacity of a seven year old.  Let's give every little boy and girl a pony to ride and pet.
Unrepentant Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:08pm
Stone, it's actually been awhile since you posted something like this, lol. I'm glad to see that you added the EU as a co-conspirator! Leroy hit it right on the head.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:16pm
The Sad King Of All Nobodys
 
Yep. You got it LOOL
Ric Wells Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:18pm
Stone could have sworn it stood for Use You. Probably the same thing. 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:33pm


BTW Rolling Jogger:
 
I plan to write an article about
 
Why does tomato sauce cooked for 20 minutes on 98° degrees emits more CO2, measured ten feet underground, in spaghetti when less than 198 spaghetti are boiled at the North Pole ?
 
Think that interests people ?
 
I think it might. When people believe in a flat earth and a sky guy they might as well believe this and make me rich. My bank account is: UZ778 899896 667 JF, 
 
https://www.bis.org/
 
The undercover bank for all serious people who want to hide something from unserious people :-)


 
 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 12:34pm
Ric
 
How do you mean that ?
opher goodwin Added Jan 31, 2019 - 1:49pm
I agree Stone - Guaido is a tool of the West. I'm very suspicious about what has happened. The US has had its fingers in deposing a number of South American regimes. Anything that looks the slightest bit left is undermined.
When Bush was elected - with a crooked election - hanging chad and his brother Jed  - did any other countries threaten to invade???
opher goodwin Added Jan 31, 2019 - 1:51pm
BTW - I don't see anybody making a fuss about the many crooked elections around the world - Idi Amin Robert Mugabe. 
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 3:18pm
Oph
 
You need weapons, not arguments. We're still in an early stage of development as a Homo species, as we name ourselves. The layer of civilization, as we like to call it, is thin, and it gets thinner and thinner.
 
We have by no means arrived at the stage of Homo Intellectus.
Ric Wells Added Jan 31, 2019 - 3:28pm
IMO the number one priority of a government is to control the people rather than represent them. No matter which form of government is taken. In the US it matters not which party the main purpose is control.
Stone-Eater Added Jan 31, 2019 - 3:43pm
Ric
 
For sure. All over the planet. That's why I support African local "kingdoms", for example in Cameroon or Congo. They are way more democratic than our Western countries are. Why ?
 
Because we have a restricted horizon. We can not judge and act in areas where other cultures live except through war and conquest.
 
We are limited. The division of the world in artificial countries in Africa and the Middle East caused the problems we have until today. As long as there is no modesty but greed ruling the planet, there won't be progress for us as a species.
 
I sit on the lake and enjoy the fact that the lake is just THERE.
 
K'an bé sini :-)
 
Leroy Added Jan 31, 2019 - 5:50pm
Stoney, I doubt that democratic decisions are made at the tribal level in Africa.  I imagine it has more to do with the respect for elders and letting elders make the decisions.  But, you are more familiar with the situation.  I defer to you. When in conflict with the neighboring tribes, might makes right.  That seems clear to me.  That is what holds Africa back.  Tribal warfare works as well as it ever has--or as bad, depending on your point of view.
 
Tribal warfare conflicts with rule of law and property rights.  Tribal systems can never exploit resources because they are too busy fighting over the low hanging fruit.  In comes the rule of law and property rights.  If a company pays for the rights, develops the process, installs the equipment, and exploits the resources, it has the rights to the fruits of that capital and labor.  Tribal warfare sees wealth and takes it because it can.  It's the low hanging fruit.  This is what happened in Venezuela.  The socialists saw wealth and took it.  It assumed that the foreign companies brought nothing to the table, that it would magically continue to produce free money forever.  Socialists/progressive liberals are short-sighted by nature.
 
That is why socialists are doing so well in the US today.  They see the huge amount of wealth, that low hanging fruit.  "Let's take it," they say because they can.  They are unbothered by how the wealth was created.  They just assume it will continue.  When it doesn't, their world collapses.
 
#WakandaForever
ChetDude Added Jan 31, 2019 - 6:52pm
USAmerica is a bankrupt state.  A dying Imperial experiment...
 
The only goddamn thing this "nation", one that can allow capitalism to become so virulently rapacious that three individuals hold more wealth than the bottom 170,000,000 USAmericans can do is license Grand Theft of the Commons for the benefit of the few and waste most of the available common treasure on a bloated war machine that for a while yet can steal so many other people's resources but can't "win a war"...
 
F*CK this lousy country -- the USAmerican Empire can't end too soon for me and for most of the rest of the residents on our only Home Planet...
ChetDude Added Jan 31, 2019 - 7:06pm
Leroy: As we found out in 1929 and again in 1987 and again in 2007 among many other times, that "wealth" (for the benefit of your "betters") that you so vigorously defend is primarily fairy dust and bullsh*t -- data records stored on computers...
 
We shall soon have to learn that lesson again.
 
Did you know that during the Great Depression over 3000 communities were able to institute their own localized economies including their own currency?  We don' need no stinkin' USAmerican Empire to take care of our Communitiy's human needs...
opher goodwin Added Jan 31, 2019 - 7:09pm
Stone - I don't think we're quite that bad yet.
Yes we are a stupid species.
ChetDude Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:03pm
Leroy: I just love your synopsis and shameless exposures of the paternalistic, bigoted, Imperial capitalist's party line (excuses for global theft, pillage and rampage).
 
Damn that ole' "White Man's Burden" sure must lay heavily on your poor shoulders, don't it?
ChetDude Added Jan 31, 2019 - 8:48pm
Mogg: Full of shyte as usual -- you have less of a clue how those 170,000 USAmericans live than your orange turd of a hero does -- just ANOTHER "white man" whining about his burden...
 
Tell that to my friends sleeping in the rain and picking cans and bottles out of the trash for 12 hours a day to pay for their next meal...
 
And most of those refugees are PUSHED - not drawn...
 
Leroy Added Jan 31, 2019 - 9:47pm
"USAmerica is a bankrupt state.  A dying Imperial experiment..."
 
Agreed, Chet.  The statists believe the US can borrow its way to prosperity.  It's not only the US but all of Europe and China and others.  Those of your mentality are driving it, not the capitalists.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 1, 2019 - 5:00am
Leroy
 
Agree. But you see, here in Switzerland people come and get on the dole because there's simply not enough jobs. We're a small country, and my work here is looking for work for refugees and immigrants, often from Africa. They are willing to work, dreamed of a life in the West where they can live and work in peace ..... and then see the reality.
 
Clearly the media has to be blamed in their countries for portraying a false image of us and raise unrealistic hope. And these TV channels belong mainly to Western, in our case, European companies....
George N Romey Added Feb 1, 2019 - 7:29am
The bottom 50% doesn't have $400 set aside for emergencies.  I tend to doubt that half of Americans are too lazy to get a good job or are just wasting their money away on luxuries like high end cars and luxury vacations to Europe.  Notice the number of Americans that subject themselves to the likes of Wal Mart to save a few bucks.  The fastest growing airlines?  The ones that put you in a seat made for a 5 year old to again save a few bucks.
Stone-Eater Added Feb 1, 2019 - 8:06am
George
 
Same here. The government pays TV for people on welfare. In order to sharpen their mind.....LOL
Johnny Fever Added Feb 1, 2019 - 8:36am
Venezuela’s slide into a communist dictatorship has happened without US interference.  The result is a failed state with 10,000% inflation and a starving populace.  Compared to how well the country was once doing, it’s a shame we didn’t involve ourselves earlier.  Speaking of involvement, it’s not just the US, much of the western world and most of South America stands together.  So given these facts, are you really suggesting the United States has unjustly interfered in the affairs of Venezuela? 
 
I could make a similar argument for every country where we interfered, but before doing that, let’s be sure where you stand on the affairs of Venezuela.  Are you with Russia, Iran the dictator Maduro or are you with everyone else?
Stone-Eater Added Feb 1, 2019 - 9:21am
Johnny
 
Are you with Russia, Iran the dictator Maduro or are you with everyone else?
 
I'm for everybody who has the guts to withstand the global capital and has a sincere plan to help the people of his country. I'm not into -isms and theories. I'm for a government, elected by ITS people FOR its people and not for personal interests or interest of foreign countries,
 
Easy as that.
 
If people in Venezuela want Maduro, that's ok. It they want Guaido, that's ok. But the fact that the first was blocked and sanctionized until the PEOPLE started to suffer - and therefore enabled Guaido - a Harvard guy - to come up, does NOT show a "free" choice.
 
One guy is externally fought and another is externally supported. Allende, Chavez, Sankara, Nkrumah, Gadhafi, Saddam, the list is long. Cooperate with us or we drain your people until they will accept our chosen candidate....
Stone-Eater Added Feb 1, 2019 - 9:25am
BTW:
 
https://youtu.be/YFSmaztcP4c
 
THIS is what I mean. Rare example.
Johnny Fever Added Feb 1, 2019 - 2:29pm
I have no idea what it means to have “the guts to withstand the global capital.”  I also have no idea how isms and theories have anything to do with what I wrote to you.  As for the government of Venezuela, it was a sham election.  Whatever democracy used to exist in Venezuela was dismantled by Chavez long ago. 
 
Maduro does not represent his people in the slightest.  If he did, the country wouldn’t be circling the drain.  So as you can see, this will not be easy.  There is going to be bloodshed in Venezuela, it’s the only path left for its people.
 
As this all relates to your article, as you can see by what’s happening in Venezuela, America has not installed a puppet government. However, when the situation deteriorates, let’s hope America has the courage to intervene and install a real government. 
ChetDude Added Feb 1, 2019 - 4:02pm
"Whatever democracy used to exist in the United States was dismantled by Franklin Delano Roosevelt with his landslide election in 1933."
 
See how that nonsense works, Johnny?
 
I suspect you missed the USAmerican sponsored coup against President Chavez in 2002, the collapse of oil prices (after years of successful empowerment of the working class and poor of Venezuela thanks to using oil revenue to aid them instead of making the rich richer) and the brutal sanctions and support for Oligarchs plotting coups and creating shortages imposed upon Venezuela by USAmerica ever since Chavez' first election.
 
Alas, Venezuela wasn't allowed to get to be as "socialist" as Scandinavia is -- thanks to the fall in oil revenue (and the suspicious death of Hugo Chavez) they sort of got stuck about the same level as USAmerica's "socialism"...
ChetDude Added Feb 1, 2019 - 4:03pm
"However, when the situation deteriorates, let’s hope America has the courage to intervene and install a real government. "
 
Oh, Yeah, F*CK YOU and God Damn the F*CKING USAMERICAN EMPIRE!
ChetDude Added Feb 1, 2019 - 4:10pm
PS: It's sacrilege for you to co-opt the name of the estimable DJ "Johnny Fever" for your right-wing screeds...
 
PPS: If anyone would like to find out what's REALLY going on in Venezuela -- go here - Report from Venezuela on Jan 27...
 
"U.S. Plot in Venezuela FAILING" says Caracas Reporter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98pBLXe7Bmk
 
And more background from people who went there to find out exactly what's REALLY happening...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whgOvbw53WY
 
 
Logical Man Added Feb 2, 2019 - 2:26pm
Stone, José Mujica is a great example of how presidents everywhere should act - on behalf of the majority of people in their country rather than themselves.
I doubt it will catch on, unfortunately.
 
Here's a quote, regarding Venezuela's voting system...
“As a matter of fact, of the 92 elections that we’ve monitored, I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world.”
-Jimmy Carter
 
Puts the corrupt and chaotic mess that Americans call a 'democratic' vote. Maduro got about 2/3 of the popular vote. I guess the people really don't like the guy!
 
For comparison, Trump got just over 46.1%.
 
 
 
ChetDude Added Feb 2, 2019 - 4:31pm
Logical:  When asked about monitoring USAmerica elections the Carter Center replied that they were too undemocratic and corrupt to monitor effectively...and declined to even try...
Stone-Eater Added Feb 3, 2019 - 7:50pm
LM
 
 
66% is ok...
Stone-Eater Added Feb 3, 2019 - 7:52pm
Chet
 
Wow. Fills one with hope !

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