Elizabeth Warren and the New Green Deal

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I’m not that big on American politics, not living in the US. I don’t know much about Elizabeth Warren, apart from the fact that she seems to have really riled up Trump and the extreme right-wing nutcases, but I know what I like.


Elizabeth Warren is making all the right noises. Her policies seem to be just what is required:

  • Policies that work for everyone – not just the wealthy
  • To clean up the corruption in Washington
  • To do away with lobbyists and PAC
  • To take control away from the wealthy and well-connected
  • To provide medicare for all
  • To combat climate change
  • To maintain contraception, sex education and abortion
  • To raise taxes on the rich and corporations and reduce inequality
  • The New Green Deal

I like anyone who puts the environment first. The New Green Deal is a move in the right direction. I like anyone who puts ordinary people on a level footing. At present the whole system is rigged. The rules are made up by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful. That needs changing.


It is quite clear to me that Trump represents the same old wealthy clique and has done nothing to address corruption or inequality. It’s time that someone comes in and sweeps that old rotten garbage out of government – booted the lobbyists out once and for all.


I just read a right-wing site which is putting a scurrilous gloss on her – all this garbage about her Native American heritage with racial slurs – Pocahontas and the like. Who cares? I thought it was plain disgusting. Mud slinging of that nature is stupid. But it does clearly demonstrate that they fear her.




Well I don’t know too much about her yet. I’m sure I’ll find out more as we go along. But if what I’ve heard up until now is anything to go by then she’d get my support.


So who can fill me in with a bit more detail about the lady?


opher goodwin Added Feb 12, 2019 - 5:58pm
There is light in the darkness.
The Owl Added Feb 12, 2019 - 6:19pm
True, Opher, there may be light in the darkness.
But there is not much light...or breath, for that matter...in Lizzie's thinking....
And do you really think that Lizzie is going to vote for a proposal that taxes her estimated $5 million in wealth?
Come on, man !!!
Leroy Added Feb 12, 2019 - 7:00pm
"...apart from the fact that she seems to have really riled up Trump and the extreme right-wing nutcases, but I know what I like."
She hasn't riled anyone up.  It might help if she did.  She pretty much an unlikeable policy wonk.  For the most part, she is an object of ridicule.  Why she thinks she has a shot at the presidency is beyond me.  Elections are a popularity contest.  She isn't popular.   Her plan is destructive.  Most people will look at is as, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Trump--whether justified or not--will destroy her.  She has already proven that he can get under her skin as the DNA debacle demonstrated. 
Unrepentant Added Feb 13, 2019 - 4:04am
"I’m not that big on American politics, not living in the US"
That clearly doesn't stop your sorry, delusional, arrogant, lime-sucking ass from weighing in on U.S. politics, as per usual.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:31am
Owl - I don't know. Not being American I don't know much about the woman. All I know is what I hear. I like what she said. It made sense to me.
So what's the background?
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:33am
Leroy - The DNA stuff just seems daft to me. I don't know much about her. I just heard what she said and that made sense to me.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:34am
BW - so good to hear that the American standards of civility and amiability haven't slipped since I last lived there.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:35am
BTW BW - does anybody suck lime with their arse? Is it because it is too acidic to eat in the normal way?
George N Romey Added Feb 13, 2019 - 7:40am
I like a lot of what she's says (particularly concerning the fraudulent banking system) but she will won't make it. The Wall Street Democrats will quickly dispatch with her and Trump quite honestly would box her real quick.
Now some interesting comments made on intelligent social media (in other words not FB or Twitter).  Her announcement rally? Almost all white lower middle to middle class older people.  People fed up with the economic system.  Fed up with bankers and large corporations.  Fed up with politicians that do nothing for ordinary people.  Where did we see these people before?  Oh I know, Trump rallies. And just like Trump she's claiming she can fix it all.  Same old same.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 8:21am
George - so you're saying she's the left-wing Trump? But not strong enough to stand up to Trump and a hypocrite. OK.
Dino Manalis Added Feb 13, 2019 - 8:57am
 They're dreaming with big empty promises, everyone should work together to get things done.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 8:59am
Dino - you don't know if the promises are empty until they fail to materialise.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 13, 2019 - 9:06am
Climate change and 9-11 are the two litimus tests for me. If a politician says they want to combat climate change, considering the information that has been available, I think they belong in the nuthouse. Its the same for people that believe Osama blew up the towers. In either case the candidate is just a whore for the Establishment.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 9:51am
Doug - yes I can see that. Obvious the Jews blew up the towers and the Jews will make all the money out of the alternative energy programme. That's obvious.
Spartacus Added Feb 13, 2019 - 11:58am
apart from the fact that she seems to have really riled up Trump and the extreme right-wing nutcases
The only thing she does to us "nutcases" is making us feel relieved.  As we predicted, the left will only nominate their best intersectional candidate who is not white nor male.  We understand their religion very well.  They won't put up the best politician to win -- only one who meets their intersectional ideology.  This is a big win for us Republicans.  The moderate electorate will back away from these extreme policies.
The only nutcases I see are the Occasional Cortex types that want to remove all airplanes from the skies.  You are delirious Opher.
John Minehan Added Feb 13, 2019 - 12:16pm
I think she has problems as a candidate, a large part of which is that her proposals for dealing with the '08 Crisis, on balance, hindered the recovery . . . . 
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 12:30pm
Thanks Spartacus - I'm not sure exactly who these nutcases are who want to remove all the planes from the sky.
The memes were funny - smack a bit of nutty desperation though.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 12:31pm
John - so what were those proposals?
Jim Stoner Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:05pm
Are you sure it wasn't Obama who blew up the towers? 
Spartacus Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:18pm
I'm not sure exactly who these nutcases are who want to remove all the planes from the sky.
That's because you don't know shit about what you are typing in these articles, Opher.  Stick to fiction . . . that which you are best at.
The resolution's aims include "overhauling transportation systems in the United States to eliminate pollution and 19 greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible." According to an overview of the resolution, this will be accomplished, in part, by "build[ing] out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary.  This includes the phasing out of American air travel."
Doug Plumb Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:26pm
re "Are you sure it wasn't Obama who blew up the towers? " No one can say for sure - no investigation took place.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:34pm
Jim - it can't have been Obama - he was too busy in the film studio recording moon landings and measuring the flatness of the earth.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:36pm
Spartacus - I'm glad you appreciate that I'm good at something.
The phasing out of air travel by replacing it with something better is hardly what you said is it?
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:38pm
Doug - you really think they didn't say who the pilots and terrorists on the plane were, where they were trained, who funded them and how the operation was planned and executed? Am I imagining I read all that - endlessly?? Or was that all guesswork or a cover up? They all really came from Israel. 
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:40pm
On the other hand I did see Obama carrying lots of crates into the building the day before - and he was seen outside on the sidewalk with a plunger standing with some Jewish guy reading the Talmud. 
Spartacus Added Feb 13, 2019 - 1:59pm
I'm glad you appreciate that I'm good at something.
I didn't say you were good at writing fiction.  I just said you should stick to the writing you are best at.  Obviously, reading is also a challenge for you.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 3:44pm
Spart - Stick to fiction . . . that which you are best at
Sorry - I misunderstood.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 13, 2019 - 3:44pm
re "Doug - you really think they didn't say who the pilots and terrorists on the plane were, where they were trained, who funded them and how the operation was planned and executed? Am I imagining I read all that - endlessly?? Or was that all guesswork or a cover up? They all really came from Israel. "
You pretty much have it. The Israeli's that had foreknowledge of the event were quickly flown back to Israel. Yes, I have read all the 9-11 stuff up until about ten years ago, bought the books, including the Omission Commission's book on the event (I think Ken Follet wrote it, I used to really like him and have read many of his novels, including the one on Osama Bin Laden years prior to 9-11.)
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 3:45pm
Spart - if you write slowly I'll find it easier to read.
Even A Broken Clock Added Feb 13, 2019 - 4:48pm
Opher, the thing that defines Elizabeth Warren the best is that she was the person most responsible for the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. This was the agency created after the '08 financial crisis that was intended to give the average person more protection in terms of the interactions with the financial industries offices. Things like the mortgage loans made available to those with little verifiable income, that led to the crisis.
One thing that this bureau did was to develop guidelines that muzzled the payday loan industry. This is something that has sprung up in the last couple of decades, where those who have an immediate bill basically borrow a couple hundred dollars against their next paycheck, pay say $30 fee (added to the loan quantity), pay an interest rate equal to over 100% on an annualized basis, and then when the loan is due, if they are not able to pay it all back, they can roll the loan over. With yet another fee to be paid, etc. If you let the loan go a couple of months, you can easily pay more than double the original loan.
Now, the Trump administration is trying their darnedest to roll back these new regulations before they take effect. See, this tamping down on this upstanding industry reduces consumer choice, since they clearly can't afford to spend the time to verify that a person can really pay a loan back, or afford reduced fees and interest. So this lets you know whose oxen are being gored by the CFPB, and why Elizabeth Warren is viewed with such disdain by the WSJ crowd.
It seems to me that the payday loan industry used to be called loan sharking, but that's before it obtained its legitimate status.
George N Romey Added Feb 13, 2019 - 4:49pm
No Opher Trump will go where others won't.  He'll point out how she lied about her Indian heritage.  He'll point out that her and her husband are wealthy themselves.  He'll find a weakness and go for it.  The problem is that DC politicians fight back like wimps.  Most of the GOP line did in 2016 and he demolished them.  Americans are tired of elite sounding politicians acting like its a high school debate.  Whether Warren will roll around in the muck and mud like FDR did remains to be seen.
She is the left wing Trump and she's talking to mostly the same demographics.  Less educated, blue collar whites tired of the system screwing them.  I saw the pictures of the crowd.  They look no different than Trump crowds, old and white.
Flying Junior Added Feb 13, 2019 - 5:19pm
Shorter Spartacus,
Hillary hatred is so yesterday.
Even Pelosi hatred is old hat.
Warren hatred is so boring.
We hate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and we are loving it!
Flying Junior Added Feb 13, 2019 - 5:29pm
Elizabeth Warren was born in Oklahoma and educated in Texas.  After teaching law, her political career began to take shape as she worked to protect consumers from unfair banking practices such as restricting access to bankruptcy.  She has called for tougher regulation of banking practices and was on the congressional committee with oversight over TARP.  Her legal emphasis is the regulation of financial markets. 
She was the 2016 Democratic National Convention keynote speaker.  Since then she has stayed in the public eye by taking firm stances against abusive policies of the Trump administration.  She often makes short videos of talks which are watched by people across the nation.  Calling Warren a left-wing version of Trump is a little bit like calling FDR the liberal Hitler.  An unnecessary insult which she does not deserve.
She reminds me more of Robin Hood.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 5:37pm
EABC - I agree that payday loans are preying on the vulnerable and those who can least afford it. Anyone who is clamping down on those crooks needs supporting in my books. I can't believe anybody finds their practice acceptable.
OK - so that's a big plus in her column.
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 5:40pm
George - did she lie about her Native American heritage? I thought she did have a connection.
I know Trump is rabid with no holds barred but that only appeals to a minority. Has she got the guts to stand up to him? 
Maybe it needs a left-wing Trump?
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 5:42pm
FJ - She's beginning to sound more and more my kind of person. What's the downside?
Doug Plumb Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:08pm
I think you just said it
opher goodwin Added Feb 13, 2019 - 6:13pm
Thanks Doug - very droll.
The Owl Added Feb 13, 2019 - 9:17pm
Lizzie Warren, Opher, is a white woman from Oklahoma who dropped out of school to get married, went back to college in Texas, and got her law degree from Rutgers in 1976 when her husband got transferred to New Jersey.
She specialized in bankruptcy law. 
Her experience in BK law coincided with the US savings and loan crisis where many middle-class people got hammered in the first go-around of the housing and mortgage crisis in the late 1980s and early 1990s.  She developed a strong distrust for the banking industry, a distrust that was clearly warranted given the shady operations of most of the S&L operations in the country.  Loans were given to people who could barely afford them with the S&L principals raking millions and millions of dollars off the top.  When the economy slowed, the ratios of performing to non-performing assets put liquidity strains on the S&Ls, about a third of which either failed or were liquidated by the Resolution Finance Trust which was formed to do an orderly takeover and liquidation of the S&L company assets.
Warren had definite ideas about banks, lenders and their operations, and when the 2008 mortgage debt crisis happened...a rerun of the S&L crisis this time with different principals and dodgy financial instruments instead of dodgy institutions, formulated a plan of attack against the banks  When Obama took office, Warren was employed by the Treasury Department and worked to change the regulatory regime into an all-powerful "consumer financial protection" agency to put all of the regulatory power of the financial industry under one roof in paid for, but independent of, the Department of Treasury.  The Dodd-Frank Act created the entity which was called the Consumer Finance Protection Agency.
Warren, during the deliberations on the Dodd-Frank Act, proved to be an abrasive, uncompromising, polarizing figure.  She was denied the role of the first Director by political forces in the Senate that would never have approved her appointment.  (The CPFB has been a mixed success, but its structure has been declared unconstitutional by the Second District (DC) Court of Appeals because Congress placed in the Executive Branch a department that doesn't answer to the President.)
Warren ran for the US Senate against a Republican who managed to win the special election to fill the seat vacated by the death of Teddy Kennedy.  (Sen. Scott Brown was one of the anomalies that Massachusetts, a reliably blue state, occasionally produces.
During that senate campaign, it was discovered that Warren had claimed, both at the Univ. of Pennsylvania and later at Harvard, American Indian heritage.  She claimed she did it at Penn to be able to meet people, and that Harvard made the entry in the faculty directory based on the Penn Univ notation to puff up their diversity credentials.  (At Harvard Law she taught one course and was paid the princessly sum of $350,000/year.)
The Indian heritage claims being somewhat hollow even to Democratic Massachusetts got a lot of scrutiny.  Her opponent, naturally, pounced on the seeming self-serving.
The local newspapers did extensive research into Warren's claim of being a Cherokee.  They found little evidence of the claim being true.  Warren kept hemming and hawing about the assertion, and went ahead and won an election that was hers to lose.
Warren's politics is well left of liberal, and getting to somewhat beyond progressive.  She's for BIG big government; she's for the regulation of just about anything and everything. Her saving grace is that she is for honest and faithful big government, but seems not to recognize that government, let alone big government, has difficulty living up to either of those qualities.
She ran and won for re-election to the Senate in 2016.  She preached that she was intent on serving her full term in office if she was elected, and the strong Democratic majority that is the Massachusetts voter went along for the ride even though everyone knew that she was going to spend the next two years running for the presidency.
As a pre-emptive strike against and critiques that she was not a Cherokee, she had a DNA test.  That test revealed that she had between 1/512ths and 1/1024ths part American Indian, Indian from Central America.  She claimed that this confirmed her original contention.  Her taking and releasing the test results and her comments subsequent to their release have proven to be political errors of significant proportions.
Unfortunately for Warren, additional evidence in the form of her New Jersey Bar Association membership card
Flying Junior Added Feb 13, 2019 - 11:08pm
You are an encyclopedia!
Yes, Elizabeth Warren was born in Oklahoma which before it became known as the Sooner State one hundred and ten years ago was part of the Indian Territories.  Mixing with Native Americans has always been a tradition in Oklahoma.  My great grandmother by marriage was part Cherokee with very strong facial features and high cheekbones.  So I guess that going back nine generations to find a full-blooded Native American is just stretching the point a little too far?  That's less than two hundred years.  How could she have even known exactly how many generations it was without a genaeology?  I don't see it so much as a political mistake as a condemnation of the nattering nimcompoops of negativity.  Y'all are just sick puppies.
I claim Scottish ancestry even though it has been four hundred years.  I still bear the proud name.  And I'm still a part of clan MacBean.
The Owl Added Feb 13, 2019 - 11:50pm
Read the report...she made it public.
The researcher was unable to confirm Cherokee lineage because Cherokees do not commit by custom to DNA analysis.  The researcher made tenuous connections to Central America Indians, Maya or Incan, as her DNA contribution to the topic with the comment that the finding was both inconclusive on Cherokee heritage and Mayan/Incan traces similar to most other people in the United States.
As you can see, Lizzie's heritage release party confrmed all of the bad points that people declared on were Deemed to be true?
Poor Lizzie...  Another foot shooting finely documented by a press growing somewhat fed up with block buster that bust on their watch with help from anywhere to keep the press from looking like absolute and incompetent bozos.
Flying Junior Added Feb 14, 2019 - 3:10am
Shame on you, you pompous bigot.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 4:19am
Owl - thank you very much for your detailed information. It sounds like there's a lot of things I would like about the woman and a few things I wouldn't. But I've not found anybody perfect yet.
Was she trying to profit by claiming Native American heritage? In an interview I read she was saying that it was knowledge passed down through the family - probably exaggerated by word of mouth.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 4:20am
Mogg - thank you - you see I don't consider that a downside. But as she isn't a fascist I can see why that might upset you.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 4:23am
FJ - yes Owl is an encyclopaedia isn't he - and a good one at that.
No it doesn't bother me either. I've got some Viking heritage and that could go back a thousand years. I don't see anything to get in a twist about. But all that silly stuff with Obama being African shows how daft things get. Americans are strange about heritage - I guess that's what comes of being so new.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 4:25am
Owl - as all North and South American Natives had the same lineage I can't see why it makes much difference. The DNA tests are not that accurate anyway.
George N Romey Added Feb 14, 2019 - 7:41am
This is what dumb asses that are so anti Trump don't understand about some of Trump's followers.  Trump never apologizes and doesn't play the political niceness game.  He is what he is.  They have a point.  They understand Trump is anything but an angel but they also realize just about every President since Wilson (and probably since Washington) has had major skeletons in their closet.  The corrupt side of Trump is anything but new.
There is no doubt Warren will have skeletons in her closet.  I've already seen the way she reacts, and its typical "I'm going to talk like a Harvard elite."  That will bring Trump supporters out in droves to vote against this women.  Given that her "rally crowd" lacked any "diversity" will she be seen as just another "whitey" candidate promising all those poor people all kinds of wonderful stuff.  Just like Obama did and didn't delivery.  Just like Clinton and didn't get that "base" (poor blacks and latinos) to turn out in droves.
Sorry you uber rich liberals.  Poor people are usually to busy working 12-14 hours a day to survive and don't have the time to read blog posts or for that matter stand in line to vote.  They typically are not a strong voting block, despite what CNN might want to infer. 
As far as her Indian heritage, she used that numerous times on college applications and application to the state bar (yes records have been dug up and posted online) to her benefit.  Again, no one is an angel and if she wants to be elected she'd better develop the Trump just kiss my ass attitude, I'm no choir boy.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 8:44am
George - I think that will all show up in the early days. They'll sling mud at her and the polls will show if she's cutting it or not.
But she sounds an interesting candidate to me.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 14, 2019 - 10:50am
Sometimes you can tell things about people that aren't in their words on here. I can guarentee that Opher has never met anyone like Ted Bundy or that recent serial killer up here in Canada. Opher would get in the car and has no clue that evil actually exists and that it usually, if not always has a friendly face and pretends to do good.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 14, 2019 - 4:06pm
What is the disinformation?
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 5:17pm
Doug - I've done my share of hitching lifts and met some cranky people with pleasant faces. Never met Ted Bundy though or Ghenghis Khan.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 5:19pm
Lol - Mogg - I think you are mistaking my views for disinformation. Laughing. I don't think discussion ever interferes with democracy - far from it. Debate is the very heartbeat of democracy. It's closed minds that are the enemy and the brainwashed who are spreading disinformation.
opher goodwin Added Feb 14, 2019 - 5:20pm
Yeah Mogg - what is this disinformation I'm spreading??
wsucram15 Added Feb 14, 2019 - 6:06pm
EABC is the only person on here who even knows who Warren is and even one thing she has done.
I always said I would work her campaign should she run because I really like her and as always dont give one crap what most ppl on here think.
BUT..I think George is right on this one.
In fact, I think all these Dems need to sit down and reevaluate running.  Also perhaps pick a running mate from the beginning with  high popularity and as much to offer people as the candidate.
The Dems keep doing the same thing over and over, now they are trying to go further.  They need to listen.
George N Romey Added Feb 14, 2019 - 6:33pm
I’ve you’ve been to many non Western countries were helping the poor is not considered. The belief is that some were chosen rich and some weren’t and that’s just the order of things. You can’t force Western values on others even when you blow the hell out of them. The US has and it doesn’t work.
The Owl Added Feb 15, 2019 - 1:09am
Warren was specific about "Cherokee heritage."
As for all American Indians being traceable to Central Americans, specifically Inca and Mayan, the analista pointed out that the heritage and percentages shown in Warren's DNA profile were the same as for a majority of whites in America.  The bottom line was that Warren was as white bread as any other and not a special recipe that would make her claim valid.
As why she did it?  Well, you be the judge remembering that her career...and her claims...were begun during the start of the affirmative advantage movement to "mainstream" minorities and women.
Lizzie likes power; and Lizzie likes to throw her power around, and she cares less about whose toes get stepped on.
Remember, it was a Democratic Congress that passed the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation, and it was a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate that refused to give her the job as Director of the new agency.
She pissed off a lot of important people to get her way.
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2019 - 4:55am
Jeanne - these next couple of years are going to be interesting. 
Will Trump get re-elected? What will the Dems do? Will Brexit sort itself out?
Huge changes.
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2019 - 4:57am
George - I've been in many many poor countries. The poor all help each other. There is usually a strong community feeling.
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2019 - 4:58am
FEC - I don't know how you can possibly come up with any figure like that. I doubt anybody knows.
Regardless - $30,000 a year would be unimaginable wealth for half the world's population.
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2019 - 5:02am
Owl - yes it sounds as if she has exaggerated the Native connection for her own ends.
What politician doesn't like power? That's why they're in politics.
George N Romey Added Feb 15, 2019 - 7:39am
Opher you can have no comprehension.  I can assure you that in South America, Central America, most of the Caribbean and some of Asia the rich do not give a fig about their poor.  It's assumed that is the natural law.  
opher goodwin Added Feb 15, 2019 - 8:26am
That may well be true but in Africa, India, Sri Lanka, China and Asia I have found a lot of good work. Of course, many of the rich don't give a fig for the suffering around. That's how they got their money by exploiting the poor.
wsucram15 Added Feb 15, 2019 - 3:55pm
Opher..Im worried about both Brexit and 2020 here. Too much movement behind the scenes.  I dont know enough about Brexit, but its a hot hot hot situation with many problems.
Also here the problems just keep mounting and the unseen, unreported things are what concern me.  Not the stuff you hear about.
wsucram15 Added Feb 15, 2019 - 4:08pm
As far as Warren, I think she initially checked off as being native American heritage multiple times and she is like me 1/8 although a different tribe.
So its enough to claim a background but only if you were raised in the culture, which would be very rare. In some cultures it is enough to claim federally protected land.  
The culture I was raised in was Irish and Italian (neighborhood), neither have anything to do with native americans.  Although my Grandmother did teach me some of the culture.
Perhaps that is her background as well or she just exaggerated.
opher goodwin Added Feb 16, 2019 - 8:08am
Jeanne - Brexit is like Trump - an extreme right-wing take-over. The whole world is going fascist as far as I can see.
The Jihadists have successfully achieved that.
Very scary.
But the cycle will come round. The reality of fascism is cold, authoritarian and callous. People can only take so much of its authoritarianism.
opher goodwin Added Feb 16, 2019 - 8:09am
Jeanne - it seems another weapon to use against her. All very nasty and mean-minded.
opher goodwin Added Feb 16, 2019 - 8:14am
FEC - the numbers are pointless. The principle is what is the real problem here. I don't want equality or any equitable sharing. I want a fairer system that doesn't produce a number of multibillionaires feeding off billions of destitute people. That is the height of immorality.
Much of this world exists on less that a dollar a day - $300 a year. A $1000 a year would seem paradise to them.
Nobody earns a billion dollars.
What we need is a fair, progressive tax system to benefit the many.
Doug Plumb Added Feb 16, 2019 - 5:28pm
The median income is more meaningful then the average.
opher goodwin Added Feb 17, 2019 - 7:45am
FEC - most of the world is working in what amounts to slavery.
opher goodwin Added Feb 17, 2019 - 7:45am
Doug - in what way?
Doug Plumb Added Feb 17, 2019 - 5:49pm
Opher, go back to school.
opher goodwin Added Feb 17, 2019 - 6:52pm
Doug - what? You can't explain?
The Burghal Hidage Added Feb 19, 2019 - 2:35pm
As tiresome as it is, I believe it is safe to say that the presidential election season now being stretched into two full years has become a new norm. In a way this is a good thing for the process. In a field of multiple candidates in a campaign of such duration it is vital that each candidate find a way to keep themselves in the very front of the daily news cycle.  This provides ample time and opportunity for these campaigns to implode. This will assure that at the end of it all the voter will be left with the absolute least worst candidates to choose from.  Elizabeth Warren is a walking political faux pas, just looking for any constituency to offend on any given day. This is like going to see a hanging where the price of admission is a rope. You give any of these stooges this long to get in front of microphones and cameras just hand them the rope. They'll do the rest
opher goodwin Added Feb 20, 2019 - 9:37am
Burger - I suppose two years provides ample opportunity but it seems that it prevents things getting done - or is that the idea?
Time will tell about Warren, won't it?
Life is one long election.
We get to choose from a series of highly flawed candidates. Often it seems the worst of the bunch is broken.