Flying Junior on Why Trump Can Claim no Collusion

It may well be true that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Trump's Russian handlers from every level of Putin's circle. Collusion would imply that somehow Trump sought out help from his sexy friend in winning the election.

It is entirely possible that Trump is entirely innocent of this crime against our constitutional republic.

Here is the case that I make. The cooperation between the vile miscreants that sought to elect the monster and their Russian enablers more resembles a seduction. Vladimir Putin was thinking many years ahead of the addled, self-loving sicko, born Donald J. Trump.

Presumably Trump first met Putin at the 2013 Miss Universe Beauty Pageant in Moscow in 2013.  It doesn't really matter. Putin began to groom Trump as his great hope to destabilize the United States and by extension Europe and the entire Western World. So Trump meets Putin again.  He is entertained with fancy dining, beautiful hotels and, of course, gorgeous prostitutes.

So Putin courts the Trump campaign. Yet long before he ever approached this demented and America-hating troupe of miscreants, his plan had been laid.  Russian operatives had long since discerned the dysfunction of American political opinion, particularly the irrational nonsense flying like pig shit on the internets.  The Russian Troll Factory was not invented on the day of its inaugural launch to attack American politics. Try to imagine just how much they laughed at us. Mostly at the extreme right-wingers who were the most open to infiltration. But perhaps equally at uninformed liberals. They set up shop. They advertised false rallies for both the left and the right. For Black Lives Matter and the Nazi counterparts.  They assumed modern roles for both extremes of political thought, for both parties.

Trump and his people were coy, like an eyelid-fluttering strumpet. They ate up all of the flattery and eagerly awaited the help that they all knew was coming. The email dump by Assange of the Russian-hacked DNC emails was just the ticket. Russians are well-versed in the ridiculous intricacies of American political thought. Else how could they have known that the dumb Bernie Bots would throw Hillary under the bus?

The rest is history.

 

There was no collusion.  No more than that of a young prostitute is accused of conspiring with her male attacker.

Comments

Dino Manalis Added Mar 12, 2019 - 8:37am
 Collusion was Hillary's excuse for her loss to Trump and it offends Americans who voted for Trump.  Trump won the electoral college fair and square, like Bill Clinton and Obama did.  Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000, he didn't become president either.
FacePalm Added Mar 12, 2019 - 9:33am
Curiously enough, there's far more evidence for democratic collusion with the Rooskies than that of the Trump admin.  Take a gander at the Podestas and the Klinton Kampaign, their ties to Ukraine and Russia, the whole Steele dossier nonsense that Steele got FROM Russia and doesn't believe his own self(according to his own testimony before a British court), the Uranium One deal that Mew-ler was personally involved in, delivering samples himself, ad nauseum.
 
And one of the ad nauseums?  Shifty Schiff, who was fooled by a couple of Rooskie DJ's into thinking they had naked pictures of Trump, and was hoping to use their information, their "compromat," to cite the Schiffhead directly, to influence the US election.
 
But your hatred has blinded you to the good Trump has done, is doing, and will continue to do for America.
 
Why, you apparently still believe that Nicholas Sandman provoked the NA activist liar by standing still and smiling!
 
MAGA!  Hats, T-shirts, bookbags, flags...sweat bands, kerchiefs...bumper stickers...
SteveAR Added Mar 12, 2019 - 10:40am
What is really amusing is that people actually think Trump is Putin's puppet.  They can only make that claim by ignoring everything that has gone on in the last two years.  It is as if the Trump haters still believe it is November 9th, 2016.  The piece above is no different.
Bill H. Added Mar 12, 2019 - 11:33am
FJ-
You are pretty much have it in a nutshell!
The Russians have been working hard to control our elections for years. They now have the Internet, and have become masters at using it as their main tool, as was obvious during the 2016 election. The Russian Government has recruited large numbers of hackers (many quite young) to carry-out their digital operations by infiltrating social media sites, blogs, and manipulating search engine algorithms in many ways. Their "digital soldiers" are paid quite well, and many young kids are making much more money than their parents to help fight the "digital war".
Russian efforts are aimed at both "sides", and are concentrated on mis-information mostly designed to create as much hate and division as possible.
 You are also correct in that most of their efforts are directed at both the "extreme right wingers and un-informed liberals", as they are the obvious choice for easy manipulation. I believe it is pretty obvious to both you and myself, based on what we see here on WB as far as the sources of most of the slanderous personal attacks and name calling (need I say more?)
Yes, Trump is for sure compromised in some way by Putin, and is his puppet. You will hear an occasional statement from Trump that is negative against Russia, but those were certainly planned and rehearsed behind closed doors between both of them and were designed to try and further fool the foolish into believing that Trump is still critical on Russia.
Trump may not have "prepared the salad of collusion", but he was certainly involved in chopping up the ingredients and using his clueless people to create the final product.
wsucram15 Added Mar 12, 2019 - 12:08pm


Trump may not have "prepared the salad of collusion", but he was certainly involved in chopping up the ingredients and using his clueless people to create the final product.


 
Good analogy BillH.
 
To anyone who does not listen about Russia look at upcoming European elections.  The intellignece already shows their intrusion there.
 
 
FacePalm Added Mar 12, 2019 - 1:03pm
This just in:
I was thinking
If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people die if it is repealed? Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot?
was thinking;
If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him innocent. 
I was thinking;
If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do the same job for more money? 
I was thinking:
If you rob a bank in a Sanctuary City, 
is it illegal or is it just an Undocumented Withdrawal? 
I was thinking;
Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS attacks during Obama's term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs. 
I was thinking;
We should stop calling them all 'Entitlements'. Welfare, Food Stamps, WIC, ad nausea are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts, and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veterans Benefits are Entitlements because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients. 
I was thinking;
If Liberals don't believe in biological gender, then why did they march for women's rights? 
I was thinking;
How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal the Primary from Bernie Sanders? How did Russia get Donna Brazile to leak debate questions to Hillary Clinton in advance of the debates? 
I was thinking;
Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a problem with the E
FacePalm Added Mar 12, 2019 - 1:05pm
Electoral College? 
I was thinking;
If you don't want the FBI involved in elections, don't nominate someone who's being investigated by the FBI. 
I was thinking;
If Hillary's speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to her free ones? 
I was thinking;
The DNC is mad at Russia because they 'think' they are trying to manipulate our elections by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our elections. 
I was thinking;
If Democrats don't want foreigners involved in our elections, why do they think it's all right for illegals to vote? 
I was thinking:
I'm going to quit thinking for a while!
Bill H. Added Mar 12, 2019 - 1:30pm
Why dedicate soldiers to accomplish a goal when it can now be achieved remotely by controlling, manipulating, and dividing the target society?
Those who doubt this are exactly the targets of our adversaries.
The following documents by Richard Crowell should be read by everyone:
Some Principles of Cyber Warfare
War in the Information Age
 
Flying Junior Added Mar 12, 2019 - 5:47pm
Thank you for the validation Bill and wsu.  I only intended this as a bit of comedic catharsis perhaps in response to the heartfelt articles claiming no collusion right here on the WB.  It just seems like a good time to publish some less serious articles to keep the ball in the air while the site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 
Steve,
 
Trump is not really a puppet of Putin.  But I'm pretty sure that some time in the early morning hours of Wednesday, November 9th in Washington D.C. Trump couldn't wait for his buddy to have breakfast in the Kremlin so he could call him up and celebrate.  Trump was itching to meet with Putin.  He almost invited him to the White House.
 
Dino,
 
Forgive me the social indiscretion.
 
Face,
 
That's quite a manifesto.  I'll have to go back and read that more carefully.  MAGA!
Mustafa Kemal Added Mar 12, 2019 - 7:49pm
Yawn
Mustafa Kemal Added Mar 12, 2019 - 7:50pm
FJ, Mueller has been  on the case for 2 years. What do we have?
 
Cohen says hes a bad man!
Nada
Flying Junior Added Mar 12, 2019 - 7:56pm
Good thinking Face!  You would enjoy Leroy's thoughts on Trump's trade war with China.
Flying Junior Added Mar 12, 2019 - 8:04pm
Mustafa,
 
It's just a humor piece.  The whole thing has been so surrealistic since the beginning.  Trump's lying has been a laugh riot.    First he claims he has never met Putin.  Even though the two men had been photographed together.  No Russian contacts.  No this.  No that.
 
It turns out that most of the men on the campaign other than Steve Bannon had been extensively courted by their Russian hosts.  Manafort was tasting the lucrative investment opportunities.  It's difficult to keep track of all the names.  Too bad he didn't pay his taxes.  lolz
 
Total pathological liar.  A veritable parcel of liars.
FacePalm Added Mar 12, 2019 - 8:11pm
Maybe, maybe not.  But thanks for thinking of me.
 
Most of the arguments against Trump boil down to "Orange Man Bad!"  Haven't seen a lot of reasoning behind it, and definitely a lack of gratitude for anything he's been able to accomplish, which is a helluva lot more in a bit over 2 years than i've ever seen anyone ELSE in that position be able to get done...you know, the candidate liars who, after winning election, you learn: "you pay for this but they give you that"(Neil Young, "Hey, Hey, My, My")
 
Oh, and thanks for helping to Make America Great Again.  A strong middle class with disposable income is essential to keep the engine of commerce going; doesn't matter HOW efficient large industries are at producing if no one can afford their goods.
 
Trump is certainly delivering on getting jobs for Americans...and lots of them.  In point of fact - due largely to the increases in population, of course - there are now more employed Americans than at any time in our country's history.
Spartacus Added Mar 12, 2019 - 8:33pm
Facepalm, your "I was thinking" comment should be an article.  Excellent.
Cullen Writes Added Mar 12, 2019 - 8:37pm
This post has the same playbook as practically every anti-Trump article I've ever read. 

Take some facts that are, on the surface, nothing particularly interesting. Claim that you know something that went on in Trump's brain or behind closed doors that you actually have no idea about. Then express moral outrage at how evil it is (the thing you sorta made up). 
 
Then discuss how this terrible event (that you have no idea whether it happened) actually makes Trump unfit for office. Then advocate that Trump be removed, muzzled, investigated to uncover this disgusting act (that you don't know whether it's true or not). 
Bill H. Added Mar 12, 2019 - 9:31pm
With so many "coincidences", lies, coverups, and all else, once the pieces are put together, what else is one to think?
It's easy and comfortable for you Trumpies to deny, deflect, defend, and degrade, but I truly believe that once the truth is presented, all will find that "it was oh so obvious from the beginning".
FacePalm Added Mar 12, 2019 - 9:53pm
William-
Thanks.
i wish i could say i wrote it myself, but it came as an email today, and thought to share it here, where i knew FJ would deeply appreciate it...
*grin*
Spartacus Added Mar 12, 2019 - 9:55pm
Cullen, nice post.  When an author uses his/her own name in the title you have to wonder how many neurons are still firing . . . or perhaps a little window into their psyche. 
 
I'm dismayed at how intellectually absent the lefts conversations has become.  Very sad time in America.
I just wish the left had more of an intellectual contribution these days.  It frightens me to think if the left ever gains any more power, it would be like turning the government over to teenagers. 
Its as if the intellects on the left have gone underground and silent.  I can think of a number of reasons they would -- one being that there are no good arguments from the left these days.  Their usual claims of racism, sexism, free stuff for everyone (except white males), Trump bad, women good.  Additionally, the #meetoo movement did a great job in muzzling any left-leaning voices who would raise objections to their own party's dogma.  Scary times.  Reasonable people are going underground while the narcissist claims high-ground.  The same thing happened back in the 1930's -- somewhere in Europe.
 
Collectively, the left has abandoned reason for madness.  And it is only going to get worse!
Bill H. Added Mar 13, 2019 - 12:45am
Keep convincing yourselves!
It must feel great!
At this point, I don't care if the next President is "Left" or "Right". All I care is that he is concerned for our country, it's people, and it's future, and the environment we live in, instead of himself, his family, and the big donors.
Flying Junior Added Mar 13, 2019 - 2:00am
I did enjoy it Face.  It's nice to put a little bit of distance on the thing.  We really are all Americans.  We do care about the same core issues.  We wish a safe and prosperous United States where our children can succeed in their new lives.  I don't believe that true conservatives want to shut anyone out of this dream either.  It's amazing how far apart we have grown.
Flying Junior Added Mar 13, 2019 - 2:55am
Cullen,
 
This is original material.  It was light-hearted as well.  I guess it's my way of accepting Trump.  No collusion!  right?  I'm validating the guy.
SteveAR Added Mar 13, 2019 - 5:25am
Flying Junior, thanks for the response.  However, you still are ignoring Trump's actions against Russia over the last two years, and still concentrating on the day after the 2016 election.  Even those who harp on what Trump said in Helsinki are ignoring his and his administration's actions against Putin and Russia, zeroing in on what he said.
Bill H. Added Mar 13, 2019 - 4:20pm
 
I'm sure as part of the charade, Trump and Putin have agreed to allow Trump to issue some minor sanctions and "statements condemning..." to keep the base believing he is hard on Russia.
With what he has done in favor of Russia, the above are simply diversionary tidbits.
Flying Junior Added Mar 13, 2019 - 5:50pm
Trump is still saying, "No collusion."  Just last week or so.
FacePalm Added Mar 13, 2019 - 6:03pm
FJ-
Trump is still saying, "No collusion."  Just last week or so.
First "collusion" is not a crime.
Second, he's telling the truth - there was never any "coordinated plan" between him or any of his staff to get the Rooskies involved in the election of Trump.
Third, the democrats are neck deep in ACTUAL Russian/Ukrainian collaboration and shady deals, starting with the head of the snake, The Liar her very own self, who signed off on selling a strategic US asset, Uranium ore, to Putin and his cronies, and Mew-ler hand-delivered a sample of it - so HE's neck deep, himself.
 
And The Liar keeps repeating and reiterating redundantly that Wikileaks is Russian, like ANYone believes her about ANYthing any more.  But she's following the playbook:
 
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
-George W. Bush - 43rd US President
 
All these globalist jackasses DO is repeat lies endlessly, to "kind of catapult the propaganda."
 
The Shrub was an idiot-puppet, too; anyone worth their salt would NEVER let a quote like that get into the public domain.
Flying Junior Added Mar 14, 2019 - 1:38am
What the hell do we need uranium for?
FacePalm Added Mar 14, 2019 - 2:14am
Uranium uses
 
Seriously, dude; websearches are MUCH easier than going to encyclopedias.  Faster, too.
Flying Junior Added Mar 14, 2019 - 2:33am
Rather than fret about a quantity of uranium sold to Canada decades ago, concern yourself with the question, "Why are we selling off our precious oil and natural gas reserves?"
Flying Junior Added Mar 14, 2019 - 4:32pm
God isn't making any more oil or natural gas.
Jim Stoner Added Mar 14, 2019 - 4:44pm
FJ,    That's the problem with writing or saying something facetiously or sarcastically--unless it's identified as such, someone will always think you mean it. 
 
The collusion is evident, but as Face Palm says, that in itself is not a crime.  There was a conspiracy to defraud the American people, and that will be proven. 
 
Trump won in 2016 for several reasons.  One was the active assistance of Russian operatives, and much of it was legal.  (not the stolen emails, or their release)  Another was successful suppression of negative news items like the hush-money payoffs and the fact that Trumpkins were negotiating all along to build the Moscow superhotel in the expectation that Trump would lose the election.  A third was serious missteps by the Clinton campaign and surprisingly successful resistance to the Obama administration by Congressional Republicans.   The fourth were the flaws in our electoral system which allowed a candidate despised and opposed by a majority of voters to win.  Finally, Trump did succeed in identifying and exploiting a variety of resentments many had about changes in our society. 
 
It all adds up to one big mistake which will be corrected next year. 
FacePalm Added Mar 14, 2019 - 6:06pm
Many on the left, FMO, are totally in a fantasy world where good is bad, up is down, right is wrong, and morons are geniuses...and vice-versa.
 
2020 might be a wake-up call, except for the deliberately and obstinately stupid. 
 
As i recall, Reagan won re-election by taking the electoral votes of 49 states; if the Dims continue with their corruptions and imbecilities, Trump could well take all fifty in the most overwhelming landslide win in history.
 
After all, under socialism, man exploits man; under communism, the process is reversed.
Jim Stoner Added Mar 14, 2019 - 6:42pm
Mogg,
I'm glad you're limiting your detestation (read: hate) to my nonsense, and not to me personally--that is an improvement. 
 
I apologize for some lack of coherence in communicating my thinking about Russia's activities in the election.  As I see it, some things the operatives did were legal (much of the social media disruption), some were not.  At the operational level, they had little knowledge of other operations going on under the same umbrella.   That is why the conspiracy is hard to prove:  the intentions were clear, the contacts evident, the results manifest.  What's missing is evidence of the decision-making. I guess that proves "no collusion"!
I did threaten that the American people will correct the mistake made in the 2016 election, if that's what you mean.   And, yes, that I would benefit if that were true, as would we all. 
As for lack of popular support, I did conflate two things, both true.  I also used the wrong word--it should have been 'outvoted' instead of 'opposed'.   As for 'despised' by voters, I'll stand by that.   Lots of people despised him and still voted for him, something that's been hard for me to understand.  What did they think they were getting?
 
As for "avaricious threats", you got me there, I plead nolo entendere.  I did threaten that the mistake made in the 2016 election result will be corrected by the American people in 2020. 
Jim Stoner Added Mar 14, 2019 - 7:02pm
Face Palm, 
You were thinking--
Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a problem with the Electoral College?
 
Good thought.  All right, here's a compromise:  5% of the New Presidential Electorate would be composed of the Electoral College Superdelegates, and 95% selected by popular vote, proportional representation. 
 
You had some good barbs in the other ones, but they didn't apply to me.   I liked they way you "stopped thinking"! 
The Owl Added Mar 14, 2019 - 10:00pm
Oh, good heavens...The vast, right-wing conspiracy theorist continue their self-deception.
 
Your girl Hillary, guys, lost an election that was hers to lose...
 
And THAT  is a happening of historical proportions !!
FacePalm Added Mar 15, 2019 - 1:08am
Stoner-
Good thought.  All right, here's a compromise:  5% of the New Presidential Electorate would be composed of the Electoral College Superdelegates, and 95% selected by popular vote, proportional representation. 
Problem = Unconstitutional.
 
You had some good barbs in the other ones, but they didn't apply to me.

You appear to have a VERY high opinion of yourself, like i wrote those specifically to affect your life in some way.
 
I liked the(y?) way you "stopped thinking"!  
Right back atcha, "they."  You apparently don't read, much, at least on THIS thread, for i 'splain' that i didn't write it.
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 3:06am
Jim,
 
Just about all of the personalities here know me to some extent.  My usual utterance is, "I hate that fucking demon!"  Obviously there was rampant collusion.  We use the word, collusion, because it falls short of the condemnation and standard of proof required for conspiracy.  The strongest proof in existence for collusion is the way that fucking demon lied about it from day one, as if the entire country would accept his version of the truth the same way that his sycophants do.
 
Really it was just a light-hearted humor piece.  If the swain, Vladimir Putin, initiated the intimate contact and the bride, Donald Trump, accepted his advances passively, giggling and coy...  Perhaps collusion is not the correct word.  Trump was mostly thinking about his weenie and his bank account.  Thus the allusion to a seduction.  I'm quite sure that Putin just told Trump to lay back and enjoy it.  "I'll take care of everything."
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 3:10am
Mogg,
 
There may be a wide-scale armed conflict a little bit sooner than geologic time can replenish oil supplies.  There is also a slight possibility that the ancient rainforests of early Earth with their lush vegetation and great dinosaurs may never be replicated.
 
My buddy, Ken, was the first guy to hip me to this idea that new oil is forming all of the time.  I had never heard it before from legitimate scientific sources such as the University of California or the New York Times.
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 3:20am
Jim Stoner, in saying conspiracy will be proven admits that none is proven as of yet but your avaricious threats don’t bear that out.
 
I guess when you say, "threats," you are referring to possible impeachment proceedings against the president.  It's very possible.  I have tried to assuage the fears on the right concerning impeachment.  I know Nancy Pelosi.  But the next Speaker of the House may very well wish to initiate proceedings against the monster.  New misdeeds and lies come to the light of day over time.  I have become so inured to evil and immoral actions by the republican party, my own opinion may not hold very much value.
 
If the sword of truth comes down on the vile demon..  So be it.
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 4:08am
Remember the so-called, "Strategic Reserve?"  At one time this was oil reserves preserved for the exclusive use of the United States military.
FacePalm Added Mar 15, 2019 - 1:34pm
FJ-
At least you're open to the possibility you might be in error.  i could be mistaken, but it's possible you're referring to the "adiabatic" theory of crude oil formation.
 
i think that you've been remarkably restrained(until recently) on this thread, considering your oft-expressed hatred of Trump and all things Trump-related, so you're to be commended for that, IMO.
 
Personally, i don't think there's a chance in a million that Trump will be impeached.  First, there's not even a "high crime or misdemeanor" even being ALLEGED.  Second, although the House could certainly pass a bill of impeachment due to the democrat majority, it is the Senate which must convict, and the majority there is NOT democrat.  But now - unless it's a devious strategy - House Majority Leader Pelosi has come out as AGAINST impeachment, so doubt is now cast upon House impeachment success, assuming Pelosi still has some loyalists opposed to the new socialist monsters like Omar and AOC.
 
But i do have a question: do you think that it's fair, just, or aligned with the long history of American jurisprudence to investigate ANYONE's life in microscopic detail, LOOKING for a crime?  Or should a particular and specific crime be alleged, first, and evidence sought to prove the allegation(s)?
 
Ever hear of Lawrentia Beria?  He was the head of Stalin's secret police, and is famous for the following line:
"Show me the man, i'll find you the crime."
 
Do you think that Soviet-style "investigations" are good for America and Americans?  Do you think YOU could withstand having your entire life's history investigated in search of a crime?  Would you think such an investigation just and fair?
Bill H. Added Mar 15, 2019 - 3:18pm
The more someone lies, tries to cover things up, and uses his own people to cover things up, the more reason to dig deeply.
If the Orange Fuckhead wasn't so dishonest and deceptive, then I don't suspect he would be seeing all of this.
It's pretty damn obvious that he is hiding quite a bit, and the American people (who really give a shit about our country) should demand to know everything about this crook.
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 4:15pm
It's a fair question Face.  I can sympathize to some extent.  I think the Mueller investigation keeps on going because his team is finding a great quantity of misdeeds.  Clinton was investigated over and over for frivolous reasons.  The biggest difference is that these blown-up investigations into prominent democrats keep coming up clean.  Trump has ordered further investigation into the Obama administration just last year.  I stand by my original statement.  Obama is a boy scout.
FacePalm Added Mar 15, 2019 - 4:55pm
Just last night, i watched Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch report that the recently-disclosed behind-closed-doors testimony of Strzok and Page has revealed that Loretta Lynch was fully aware of the bullshit that was presented to the FISA courts AND that exculpatory evidence - spontaneous declarations of innocence on the part of the two subjects of the FISA warrants - was deliberately excluded, which constitutes a fraud upon the court(s).
 
So the entire basis of the Mew-ler "investigation" is completely tainted by the fraud at it's inception.
 
When Wikileaks did one of it's first doc dumps in the run-up to the 2016 election, the State Dept. cables, it was revealed that Mew-ler PERSONALLY delivered yellowcake samples to the Rooskies.  How is that not only a crime, but Treason, to deliver a strategic asset to a known Enemy of the United States?
 
As to The Liar, you do realize now that Comey's team had written an exculpation letter MONTHS prior to her unrecorded "interview," for which no transcript exists, either, right?
 
Repeat after me:  "The fix was in."
 
In fact, that's the priority purpose of the careers of both Mew-ler AND Comey, to be "fixers" for party elites/associates.
 
Remember where Comey came from - the wreckage of the HSBC scandal, where drug money was being continually laundered - yet various intel folks and other wealthy who had accounts there were deliberately covered up - and FBI chief was only part of Comey's reward.
 
Remember what the Liar said when confronted with the news that she'd lost the election?  Allegedly, she went into a drunken rage, screaming "we'll all HANG!"
 
May her words come to pass.
Flying Junior Added Mar 15, 2019 - 10:24pm
Like I said, Face.  You and I are not so far apart.  It's good to be friendly.
Bill H. Added Mar 16, 2019 - 12:26pm
 
So far, what we have seen is that a bunch of crooks and traitors were Trump's choice for his cabinet, associates, and election committee. We are also seeing that this is apparently true for Trumps kids and son-in-law.
It's almost only logical that Trump is nothing more than a crime boss in his own regard.
FacePalm Added Mar 16, 2019 - 1:29pm
?
Crooks, yes.  Treason?  Describe it and who committed it.
 
OTOH, the D'OhBama admin was filled with them, AND he left a "stay-behind network" in various Fed Departments to work against the president, aka subversion, sedition, and quite possibly treason, as well, depending on just which foreign entities some of these are representing and/or cooperating with.
 
D'OhBama himself was likely COMPLETELY on-board with the "insurance policy" and fully informed about it, as well - we KNOW D'OhBama was an inveterate liar: "If you like your plan...", and full knowledge of The Liar's basement unsecure server, based on the fact he had regular email contact with her via that server.
 
Then, too, he was a globalist - still is - trying to follow Trump around the world and gainsay everything he says, probably a violation of the Hatch act, as i recall, which prohibits private citizens from attempting to conduct official USG business.
 
Yes, there should be forthcoming charges against the former weasel-in-chief.  Same with The Liar, but we'll see; new AG Barr seems to have received quite a few criminal referrals from Congress recently, so we'll soon know if he acts upon them, slow-walks them, or does the "Sessons dither dance."  Unfortunately, Barr has the taint of the Shrub and his dead daddy all over him, so his loyalty to the country - or the Shrubbery - will soon be known.
Bill H. Added Mar 16, 2019 - 7:03pm
FP-
Exactly how will you react, and what will you say if in-fact Trump is found to have obstructed justice and/or colluded with a foreign government to promote his election?
Just curious.
Flying Junior Added Mar 17, 2019 - 1:38am
Face,
 
You are a storehouse of valuable right-wing propaganda.  There is so much that you help me to understand.  I just heard an amazing radio program on the show, Reveal, on NPR entitled, "Pizzagate:  A Slice of Fake News."  It was originally aired November 18, 2017.  It was a collaborative investigation by Rolling Stone and Type Investigations.
 
It took the example of Pizzagate and followed it from it's inception to where it really heated up when Betsy DeVos's little brother, Eric Prince was a guest on Alex Jones InfoWars.  Usually I read this crap and I just laugh at how stupid people can be because I don't understand it.  But it made so much sense.  Twitter heats up in these great waves of activity.  Every person who retells the original fake story adds more and more layers of gruesome details...  Until finally some rocket engineer figures out a way to use the gravitational field from the mass of lies and sheer improbablities to slingshot the original fake news out of the solar system and into the Valhalla of fake news legend.
 
Really very fascinating stuff.  rYck the KKK democrat also believes a lot of the alternative reality fake news I have noticed.  It is extremely difficult for me to accept.  The fact that an intelligent man such as yourself, perhaps sixty years old or more, could be a willing participant in this utter and dangerous nonsense is just about the most discouraging thing I can think of happening in my country today.
 
https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/pizzagate-a-slice-of-fake-news-rebroadcast/
FacePalm Added Mar 17, 2019 - 3:22am
FJ-
So, do you think that pedophiles are a problem?
Do you think that pedovores exist?
What do you know about adrenochrome, and how it's extracted?
Or is pedophilia just a "lifestyle choice" you're ok with?
 
Bill H-
If there's a High Crime or Misdemeanor revealed by the Mew-ler "investigation" which rises to the level of an impeachable offense, first, i'll be surprised - then, i'll want to see the evidence.  As best i recall, 3 investigations - one by the House, one by the Senate, and one by the Inspector General - ain't got squat.
 
You may be unaware, but Mew-ler and his top dog, Weissman, have a long history of making shit up about defendants they KNEW WERE INNOCENT ALL ALONG, and convicting them any fucking way.  Weissman's convictions - three top corporate officers of Anderson Accounting, iirc - were overturned NINE TO NOTHING by SCOTUS - who rarely are unanimous about anything.  Didn't bring back the 10k+ jobs lost when Anderson went under, though, and Weissman paid NO PENALTY for his malfeasance.  Yet.
 
They'd better damn well have their shit together this time, because it's not a nobody they're going after...and he's a tough counter-puncher.
Flying Junior Added Mar 17, 2019 - 3:38pm
I condemn pedophilia roundly.  Just about everyone does.  Witness what the other convicts do to pedophiles in prison.
 
It's a totally phony story spun out of whole cloth.  Shit about the wallpaper and the menu at the pizza place encoded with references to pedophilia.  Hillary Clinton supposedly went to the island from which the sex slave children were captured eight or more times.  I wonder how many other right-wing lies and fantasies you believe.
 
I'm starting to understand this hysteria about how Hillary and Obama belong in prison.   Completely crazy shit.  It doesn't appear to matter whether or not the lies don't even make sense to a normal person.
Flying Junior Added Mar 17, 2019 - 3:40pm
Sure, Mueller has a long history of active witch hunts and false convictions.  I knew that!  lolz
 
You guys will believe anything that you are told.  In-fucking-credible!
FacePalm Added Mar 17, 2019 - 7:12pm
FJ-
i'm glad you condemn pedophilia unreservedly; this would also include all pedovores, too, right?  So then you'd be completely on-board with massive roundups of those who've been keeping slaves, torturing them, sacrificing them, and extracting adrenochrome from them too, right?
 
Did you perchance read any of the pertinent Podesta emails, rife with known pedophile code words?  Familiar with the oft-repeated logo they use on a regular basis?
 
i, for one, didn't buy into the Comet Pizza bs, which was a distraction to make people think everything's fine, and no one is molesting or torturing children - nonsense, of course.  Satanist groups do so all the time.  That's how they get the adrenochrome many are addicted to.
 
Have you heard about the 60k+ sealed indictments at DoJ?  Ever wonder who they're for?
 
All i can tell you is "wait and see."  There's going to be some major shakeups, both in USG and in corporate entities.  Watch.  Many prominent democrats and not a few Republicans are going to prison as a result.
Bill H. Added Mar 17, 2019 - 9:33pm
FP-
Nobody in the public knows nothing, other than what the media is forecasting (depending on what talking heads you believe).
From what I can see, it doesn't look good for Trump and his family.
Based on his latest tantrums, I think even Trump realizes this.
Flying Junior Added Mar 17, 2019 - 10:27pm
Well, in a few years when this all disappears, I doubt I will remember to crow about it.
 
Peace
 
I don't think any one of us believes that Trump will be impeached.  I don't particularly want him to be impeached.  I am much more worried about his plans to contest the 2020 election.  We are in a new age.  New rules.  New paradigm.  Scary.
 
Adrenochrome?  Ha ha ha ha!  God I love you!
FacePalm Added Mar 17, 2019 - 10:58pm
Bill H-
"his latest tantrums"?
Would that be a reference to the veto, vigorously supported by law enforcement and the brand-new AG, Barr?
 
FJ-
What do you know about adrenochrome that is a laughing matter?

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